NOTE: Just to clarify, since there seems to be some confusion, the point of this video is not to say that Pele is the greatest player of all time. The point is simply that he is undoubtedly one of the greatest, and to call him a fraud is patently absurd, that's all! The video has nothing to do with Messi, Maradona or anyone else for that matter. Peace and love, KZfaq friends. ✌🏽👍🏽

Vasco da Gama defeated Real Madrid in Paris 4 x 3 (with Di Stefano and Puskas) in 1957. How can someone says Brazilian league was weak?

I hate when people say stuff like "latin american or brazillian clubs were weak" when in a reality the Intercontinental Cup was very balanced between European and Latin american clubs (with a slight advantage to the Libertadores winners). That idea is very anachronic, people only think that because of the state of football today. Very centralised in European clubs, but back in the day things were way more balanced.

The brazilian government declared pelé a national treasure preventing him from being transferred to foreign teams

I'm not understanding how anyone can call him a fraud. You can argue that he isn't the best ever. Fine. But to say he's a fraud is ludicrous.

You should do "why garrincha is the most underrated player ever"

Brazilian here. My dad used to watch Pele's games live, in the stadium. He was a professional football player, a central back, played in few small clubs in Brazil and when I told him "Pele was not that great", he made me sit with him and watch a few documentaries and videos of his goals and performances, telling me about the games he saw too. Since that day I never even though of saying that again. Pele was ahead of his time, he was at the top of his physique, he had a tactical knowledge and game vision that a few had in that decade. He was a poacher, a classic 10, a striker and a winger, playing at the top of his game in every position. He was one of the greatest, if not the greatest player of all time, for sure.

You forgot one of the most recurring arguments: idiots claiming again and again that "Pelé scored most of his goals when the offside rule didn't exist" without knowing that the offside rule existed long before Pelé was even born and that it was actually redefined through the years to make it less punishing and allow more goals to be scored, It was actually more punishing when Pelé player and even more punishing before Pelé. The offside rule, softened down as we know it today, dates back only to 1990. Add to that the fact that defenders could break him time and time again during games without too much worry as yellow and red cards didn't exist back then (they were introduced on his last world cup), you have a pretty rough environment for attackers unlike today's football. I'm not saying he's the GOAT, I'll keep that my opinion on who is the GOAT to myself as I just don't want to argue with fanboys of every other player, but the fact that he was one of football greats is undeniable.

People gotta stop looking for the best player of all time - it's very difficult to scale greatness when it comes to football. Many people don't even take defenders and GKs into consideration when it comes to picking their GOAT. What are your criteria? Goals? Consistency? Prime? GKs will almost never score a goal in their career but they'll be the most consistent. As HITC has done already, it's better to pick the best players for each position. Each position has its own criteria and you're therefore able to at least do that. And: heskey scored more goals for England than pele did.

Just to be clear, until the 90's the rivalry in the regional championships were stronger than in the national championships here in Brazil, most of the clubs prioritized these leagues rather than "more important leagues" like the national cups or even the continental one ! So the quality of these leagues were extremely high (at least São Paulo's and Rio de Janeiro's leagues)!

At 17 yrs of age the second best scorer in a world cup can anybody argue with that👍

About a couple years ago, I used to watch a lot of football daily. However ever since I saw in how many lists they called Pele a fraud and overrated, I stopped watching them. Now having watched a lot of your channel, I can eAsily say that yours is a far far better and more informative channel. Thank u for respecting PEle's legacy so much!!!!

As a Brazilian it really annoys me that people think our league and teams are weak. They are not. Until the 80's Brazilian clubs were actually far superior than Europeans.

In my opininon people that says pele is overated is "trying to be cool" by not liking a legendary player, this is just my opinion 😊

As a late 50's person, Pele gave me more WOWS than any other player. Cruyff gave us the "Cruyff turn", Messi gave us the 5 yd burst and curling goal, Ronaldo gave us power in free kicks and headers, but for me, it's like Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods. Great records, but one is oozing class, not Woods, not Maradona. 1000 goals? Forget it. Just remember his magic !

*roasted Football Daily*

I always get a kick when people say all those matches against European clubs were just glorified friendlies and shouldn't count towards anything. I always wonder whether those who say that ever played competitively in any sport. As a player, if I was going up against the "best ever" I would come up with my A game. To think that players who worked so hard to get to the top of the mountain by playing professionally would just phone it in when they get a once in a lifetime opportunity to match up against one of the greatest ever is simply ludicrous.

I think the biggest factor in Pele greatness is they had NO RED CARDS when he played and he was targeted and brutalized in many big games because he was so dominant. How would Messi or Maradona do under those conditions?

Just watched this video - superb stuff. I think you've made a spectacular point. To be honest I don't believe there's such thing as a 'greatest of ALL time' because people saying that today about Cristiano or Messi are just simply disregarding the greatness that was Pele and Maradona and anyone else people think are great. Superb video mate!

The yellow and red card didn't exist in that time . Chile 62 and England 66 was a butchering against Pelé . It was in Mexico 70 were cards system started .

Plymouth Argyle beat Santos 3-2 in 1973 with Pele scoring a penalty. This isn’t an argument against Pele, just something interesting as I am an Argyle fan

RIP Legend 💚 Gone but not forgotten

Pele dribbled when a foul was a foul. He dribbled when there was no space. He scored when the goal was covered. And won like there was no losing. You did him some justice with this clip. Remember, the ball was made from leather, the pitch was real grass, the goal was smaller, and back tackle was allowed.

I don’t think pele is a fraud just that his “over 1000 goals” line is misleading for marketing reasons.

Bout time to see a KZfaqr who knows what they're talking about instead listening to drunk idiots who denigrate real legends

Great video; i was one of the people whom believed Pele was overrated, a man can only admit when he is wrong.

Eveyone please send this video to football daily and especially patrick van straaten who thinks most players are shit...

HITC Sevens is better than Football Daily.

This is nothing but just a sign of frustration shown by the anti Peles....so funny! Why do he need to play for the European clubs? While he already won 3x World Cup n time after time the European clubs were beaten by Pele...!!

Pele is the reason we talk about being a "No.10"

3:20 There is just one point to this nice video you posted. In the 60's most of Pele's goals were from the Regional Campeonato Paulista, and unlike you said. The paulista was actually the most difficult tournament bc they were the richest teams with the most structure , while northern teams in the national league were far less competitive, semi pro's.

Saying that Messi, CR7 or Maradona (or any other player that played in more recent years) is better than Pele 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 based in the fact of the progression of the sport is rubbish. It would be the same thing to say that J. J. Abrahms is a better director than Orson Welles because he knows more techniques and the "cinema is better nowadays". You have to evaluate things in context and measure importance and influence to its evolution

In the comment section all I can see is people complaining about messi fanboys but I have not actually seen a single comment by a messi fanboy

Finally, someone with some sense! Thank you for making this video!!

If Pele were not the greatest player of all time, we would not be debating if he was a the greatest or a fraud fifty years after he was playing.

Guys hands down Pele is one of the best players ever

In the Pelé era, the Brazilian league was the best in the world, they played in Brazil, around 60 world champions players and all Brazilian players played in Brazil. Unfortunately football is eurocentric and many great Brazilian players are not recognized as: Zizinho, Jair da Rosa Pinto, Ademir da Guia, Leonidas da Silva, Didi, Canhoteiro, Coutinho, Pagão, Friedenreich...etc.

Brazil didn't allow Pele to leave and earn more money in Europe. They labelled him a national treasure.

Well done mate..!! It is good to hear someone from the other side of the world...who knows what he is talking about when it comes to the best players in the History of the greatest game. At the beginning of the video you show another important player 0:51 Elias Figueroa... I know it is hard to find the information you need when you don't understand the language. So, I will give you some key facts... Brazil wanted to nationalize Elias. Beckenbauer, Pele and Cruyff among others.... had called Elias Figueroa the best stopper.

Main reason: He s the ONLY human on planet earth with 3 world cups...PERIOD

Pele is not one of the best players ever, he is the best ever.

Pele was the best for his time end of. He was ahead of his time like Maradona. Different time periods hard to compare. He won 3 world cups so he is the WC king

Hey love your videos and what makes you unique is that you have stuck to the number 7 while most youtubers go for 10.... Good luck for your future

These days trolling became a culture, almost a way of life. People seem to have pleasure dismissing and ridiculing established names in every field of life, being sports, music, politics, writing, acting etc. Just for the fun of it. I find it petty and sad. It usually comes from folks who are too small to produce anything of value for themselves, and try to diminish other people's accomplishments as a way to compensate their own insecurity and lack of talent. Pele was a football genius, that is unquestionable by anyone who knows the sport. Too bad his best moments were in a time when filming was difficult and limited, so we don't get to see most of his matches and goals. We'd be thrilled, to say the least. He just turned 80 and deserves all respect and admiration as the athlete he once was and the person he is now.

Pele 17 in 58 the first superstar in football. Cut the guy some slack.

Eusebio is such an underrated player that not that many people talk about even though he was a animal.

Great video man! Thank you for bringing some light to the situation

Great video! Probably my favourite one you've made. I completely agree with all the points you made and the same can be said about so many legendary players from the past because of those same reasons you mentioned. Greatness will always exist in football no matter what era. People need to realise that what we witness now isn't the only time there's been exceptional football players walking the planet.

Santos de Pelé won only 2 Libertadores, due to the violence in South American football being much bigger than in Brazil. That is why the Brazilians gave more importance to the national championships. Just to see how many Brazilians have already beaten the Libertadores from 1992 to today, when São Paulo beat Barcelona and Milan in the intercontinental championship. Who says that Pelé made many goals in provincial championships, do not know the weight of these championships until the 1990s. Watch the balance of the Brazilian championship, try to understand more about the country of football and then try to argue about it. Pele was top scorer every year with many goals ahead of his competitors. Santos's Pelé stopped playing for the Libertadores to tour in Europe. Research the subject.

It's also worth mentioning that not only brazilian footballers were all based in Brazil, but also Argentine, Uruguayan and most other S.American footballers. So when Santos beat some Argentine teams, they were also beating teams with their BEST players.

This has to be my favourite video you’ve done so far and I enjoy all of them

I can see one difference between Messi, Maradona, Ronaldo, Cruyff and Pele. A black player being one of the all time greats of the sport obviously rubs some people up the wrong way.

You changed my opinion on Pelé. Thank you so much.

Pele was undoubtedly one of the greats, but looks like Glenn Murray when you compare him with Steve McFreeze

Pele played in a time, when there weren't a whole team of nutritional experts, fitness coaches, etc daily working with teams. He played in a time without hightech soccer balls and shoes. He played in a time when the forwards specially black forwards weren't protected.. he has been 100 of times fouled with critical injuries and ref did not even warned the defenders(Messi is today perfectly protected by new football rules). Pele also wan't in a designed team like Barcelona, Messi has the luxury to play in a time when million dollars teams like Barcelona can buy 11 top players just to serve Messis game...In an average team Messi is not such a game changer (Argentina 2006, 2010, etc, not even won the copa america)...Players like Pele or Maradona changed a game in any team..Pele with Santos, Brazil etc.. Maradona with Napoli and Argentina....Pele made Santos world club champion, Maradona made an average team like Napoli the winner of italian leageu..Pele won three world cup, Maradona almost alone weon the 1986 world cup..and what did Messi outside million dollar team Barcelona: ?????????

Thank you for posting this video! Finally someone who is knowledgeable about football!!

As a brazilian, i see you really did a great research job here, but you are incorrect when you say that 'campeonato paulista' was like a lower standard national league. Brazil is a continental sized country, and it means that only an anual national league wasn't (and it's not till today) enough to cover the whole country. Back into that time, the states of São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro were by far the states with the most competitive league, and the major part of the strongest teams from the national league came from there. Actually, because of the regional rivalry, many of the teams from those states considered those regional leagues even more importants than the national one. So, I believe we could say that back into the 60's, those regional goals had the same importance of the ones scored nationaly

Football daily. Your turn

What an necessary video dude, thanks!

Love it. Congratulations on the video

People who dont understand difference between fundamentals to play, skills and technique shouldnt be allowed to say those bullshit about Pele been overated . Pele was complete inside all aspects of the game he had more variety of shoting technique and he was always balanced to play making very wise usage of the fundamentals to play with both legs the shoting technique of his was superior to anyother player nowadays. I agree that Messi and Maradona has a superior skill set in comparison to Pele but technicaly speaking Pele was way better than them both, come one dude compare the weeker foot. I mean mararona or messy's right foot cant be compared with pele left foot thats just ridiculous ppl are dumb, blind or only haters thats how it is. I believe theres case to say Messy is overated though but that will definately depends on the way you're looking in to those aspects of the game Messy and Maradona are probably the most skillful players ever because in my opinion it doesnt matter if you have more skills its always how you use your skills in other words the skill set up is what is important and thats the reason I put Messy and Maradona on the same level as Pele in a overall perspective however if you look only at the technique you will notice that they are not in the level of Pele its just a simple case of understanding the difference between two different aspects of the game its depends on the point of view you're heading into it though.j

Pelé ran the 100 meters in just 11 seconds.

Thanks for this, mate. In my opinion he is the best ever, and by some margin.

Thank you for making this cause I’ve heard too many people say this

Watch Pelé Eterno a documentary that analyzes Pele technically in every single fundamentals of football and after you’ll understand why his is the GOAT stills today there are no players at the same level of skills in every single fundamental as he was.... great video.

Pele is football he evolved the sport, he invented countless skills that players now master one of and get praised: pogba, kruyff, ronaldino, messi... I could go on and on. He was the first, he had no one to copy. Brilliant. Genius.

Thanks! I was expecting this wonderful enlightenment.

I wonder what his price would be now if he was in his peek years and he was from England. I think about 325 million

Pele haters did you win a World Cup or 3 or athlete of the century Or are you the first ever teenager to score in a World Cup final

1. pele played with no offsides Offside was made in 1886. In the old days you were offside when in font of the last 3rd last defenders. 2. Brazil had a stacked team and didn't need Pele for the 1958 world cup A 17 year old injured Pele stats 1958 WC Ussr 1 assist, Wales 1 goal, France Hatrick in the semi final! and Two goals in the final vs sweden . Awarded the silver ball at 17 for the 1958 world Cup. Brazil had never won a WC before Pele and it took them 26 years to win it after he retired. 3. Pele never played in Europe The Brazilian league was arguably the best league in the world and brazilians only started moving en masse to europe in the 90s. 4.Pele only counted the goals scored in his dads backyard Santos the defending champions of the league and south American champions league withdrew from both competitions to tour the world for reasons ranging from, paying for peles enormous wages and to prove to the world that they are the best. Pele was racking up more than 70+ appearances even a 100 appearances at one point those friendly appearances made him miss out on official goals and domestic medals. 5. Defenders were weak tackles from behind was legal assault was legal red and yellow cards did not exist substitutions did not exist Bellini, Djalma Santos, Nilton Santos and Carlos Alberto, Bobby Moore, Franz Beckenbauer, Fachetti, pierluigi, Trapattoni, Burgnich and cesare maldini are not postmen. 6. Garrincha was the better player Lol 7.Pele was Just a poacher Pele role was the Ponte de Lanca Support striker/ Attacking midfielder his passing vision dribbling and football iq were akin to messi, maradona, cruyff he was the main creater for Brazil and santos. 8. Pele couldnt play in todays age Pele at 50 yrs playing against Vanbasten etc kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq6ggtib0auypGw.html

Incredible video, I was trying to convince a KZfaqrs that Pele is not a fraud but I couldn't explain it, this video explained it better than what I would have brought out after a million years. Fabulous!

Pele was so brilliant that he could have played any position from Gk-St that's magical. Long live 👑King Pele🇧🇷. His DNA is triple world🌎 class.

Never liked football daily

Wow great points, great video am subscribing immediately for more great videos

“The greatest player in history was Di Stefano. I refuse to classify Pele as a player. He was above that.” Ferenc Puskas “When I saw Pele play, it made me feel I should hang up my boots.” Just Fontaine “Pele was the only footballer who surpassed the boundaries of logic.” Johan Cruyff “I sometimes feel as though football was invented for this magical player.” Sir Bobby Charlton "The best player ever? Pele. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are both great players with specific qualities, but Pele was better"?Di Stefano While Lionel Messi is the best player in the world, Pele remains the greatest of all time. Franz Beckenbauer "There's Pele the man, and then Pele the player. And to play like Pele is to play like God." Michel Platini "Pele is the greatest player in football history, and there will only be one Pele in the world." Cristiano Ronaldo

At the time (60s), Campeonato Paulista had Santos, São Paulo, Corinthians and Palmeiras, 4 great clubs. Nowadays, only Premier League can be proud to have 4 or more great clubs. Spain has 2, Germany has only one, France has not even one.

there is clip after clip of him dancing through defenders at pace with insane skill. if he played today he would be considered great

Thanks HITC for making this video

0:47 first reason straight away: Pelé was ripped and had a six pack at the time when players didn't pay any attenion to healthy lifestyle.

Most underrated football channel out there!

Good video, next you should do a video about how Messi is an actual fraud outside of his Barca system.

What a slap on Football Daily. I'm biased when I say Pelé is the GOAT because I literally support the team he played for almost two decades but let's agree that he was at least ahead of his time, even when compared to other greats who played in the same era, like, for instance, Eusébio.

Pele went to the 1958 World Cup age only 17. He played in only four games yet scored 6 goals and all the goals were scored in the last three games. 1 in the Quater finals, 3 in the Semi Finals and 2 in the finals too become the tournaments 2nd top goal scorer, runner up only to Frances "Just Fontaine" who scored 13 goals (still a world cup record). In other words he didn't score any goals in the group stage (the easiest stage) where the tournaments leading strikers tend to score most of their goals, he scored all of his goal in the three most important, most demanding rounds of the most important competition in all of world sport. Few if any will ever do that again and certainly not aged 17. 75% of Peles games were not recorded yet his compilation videos are as good (arguably better) than compilation videos of his modern day rivials( Ronaldo, Ronaldinio, Neymar, Messi and Maradona etc). Every competitive games these modern plays have ever played are right there in those compilations videos, their best goals, best skills best moments. Forget 75%, its likely that not even 5% of what they did on a professional playing field has not been recorded. Unlike Pele, their compilation videos tell the complete story, there's no missing footage (or at least not much). Today young players can study in detail the individual moves of the greats and then practice them to perfection. Pele played in an era when you had to learn football the hard way by picking up footballing lessons here and there (in dribs and drabs).

Excellent video

So true everyone who says he isn’t the 🐐 are just shunning him out as they never got to see him play. I’ll admit it is pretty close between him and Messi but pele has to get the top spot.

6:29 are the guy at the back of Pele look like rashford+neymar+coutiho combine ?

Spot on dude. Glad to see someone taking these haters to task. However I'd add atop your own points a few points of my own:1. Not only was the brazillian league, similar to if not superior to Europes top leagues, but football parity both within and outside of Europe was considerably higher than now. Di Stefano joined RM at the age of 26 from a Columbian team and convinced many he was the greatest player in history. teams like Reims and Partizan Belgrade made it to the CL final. Money didn't water down competition to a few leagues much less a few teams like it has in the 00's and 10's. And you see this in sports around the world: Cricket the West Indies were the most dominant team in the 60's and 70's, likewise in that time in baseball many black players came over form the negro leagues to dominate mainstream baseball despite their formative years in a "lesser league". Nowadays players like Messi and Suarez earn more than entire teams in the same leagues they play in. Parity in sports was greater in the 60's than it is today, especially in football.2. the easiest argument to counter owing to its blatant logical fallacy and imo is much more applicable to Messi than Pele3. the 1000 goals claim has been ratified by the guinness book of records and it's important to place that point in context. For a person from his generation making it into the guinness book of records was how one wrote themselves into history. And if you understand anything about that record book it's only concerned with quantity not quality. Nowadays obviously no one cares about the guinness book of records, fans are only interested in official football standards which is obviously fine; but simply anyone from his era marveled at someone who entered the guinness book of records and so it was a point of pride and remains one for him today.Also good calls on the final two points. Ppl who dismiss Pele intentionally overlook what he did in '58 as a 17 year old since it would mean accepting that his performance was the epitome of athletic prodigiousness in soccer the likes of which we haven't seen even remotely close to. Also they are ignorant to the fact that he was in his absolute prime during the years he missed the WC and was virtually retired from international fb when he came back to play in 70 having already proven himself. Pele is the WC's greatest ever performer and he never even played in it at his best!

To say that defenders were anywhere near as good as they are now is absurd in my opinion.

Well said. IMHO Pele is GOAT.

This guy simply stopped a war...

Thanks for clearing this up mate. 😘

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Brazilian here. You did not get properly the weak brazilian teams factor correctly. Brazil has a national league, but back at Pele's time it almost did not exist. Opinions may differ, but the real Brazilian League started in 1967 with the strongest teams of the country playing against each other. Most of Pele's goals were scored in the Regional league, against teams of Sao Paulo State area (Campeonato Paulista). This tournament is small today, but is was the main one from around 1910 to 1980. It would take 6 months or more each year. Those teams from the regional league were poor and weak, exept for maybe 5 or 6 teams. Its like if messi could play 70% of his games only against tems from the second division in spain. Also he didnt play much against teams from south america as Libertadores Cup was not important for brazilian teams at that time. But despite that, considering all the rest, he is the best player from the 60' onward. Because unfortunately we dont have many images of Puskas and Fredeireich.

People also don't mention the number of assists he had in the world cup esp in 1970. Still all time assists leader in the world cup.

Perfeito. Ótimo vídeo.

It is the same argument that a lot of Ronaldo fans make that messi wasn't tested in any other league.

fun fact: anyone calling Pele a fraud is a young football fan, with immense recency bias

Guys who say that pele is not considered as one of The greatest of all time, if not the greatest, really should start watching football properly. Nice list HITC Sevens

Great analysis as always. And he was given his fame on a level playing field called the world cup where the best of europe were judged.

People that say he is a fraud never played soccer in their lives, its bizarre . Best player ever are: first Pele, second Pele, third Pele, Fourth Pele and fifth Maradona. There is a really good documentary called "Pele Eterno", its 3 hours long with footage of over 300 goals that he scored along his career.