the fact that they didnt talk about "If it werent for the baby.".... SICKENING.

this is the collab of the century… like it’s serious to me

I think Mags kissed Finnick because she couldn’t speak and it was happening so fast that there was no other way to express her love for finnick as quickly as the kiss. Even though it’s not a romantic/sexual love, she needed to express it before she died and that’s what she thought of in the spur of the moment.

Cato couldn't climb a tree because he was too big/heavy and not quick. every time he tried, branches snap under his weight. that's one of the times where Katniss being borderline malnourished and short as a result worked in her favor...but it's also why Clove could tackle her so easily. the same thing applies to Rue climbing but also being easily trapped under a net.

Gale doesn’t volunteer because they both agreed that if one goes into the games that they will hunt and provide for the other’s family if the other dies

it is truly criminal that if it wasn't for the baby didnt make it into the video because peeta truly gagged us all with that

I get why mike doesn’t like peeta. He needed so much help in catching fire. But the real reason is that the wound on his leg was badly infected and he lost his leg. He didn’t adjust well with a prosthetic leg so he basically had 1 leg. In the movie, they cut this part off and just gave him that magical cream that healed his wound when actually his leg got amputated after the first game. Plus, the district 12 bombing situation k1lled all of his family members. So basically Katniss is the only person he had left😭

i love how basically all of their questions can be easily answered by reading the books. to me it shows that people who make book adaptations sometimes assume that almost everyone watching will be a book fan so they dont have to give full context to things. "they'll know what happens in this scene, they'll understand why character X did that". i remember a lot harry potter films having similar problems.

Johanna won by crying and pretending to be weak until the actual games start and then just goes ham - which is why Katniss struggled trusting Peeta right after their names were called and sees him cry

Foxface was identifying edible plants not matching pictures - which is why it’s theorized she was offing herself when she ate the berries. She’s also supposed to be super clever so her trusting some guy to know edible plants just doesn’t make sense and she wasn’t beating the careers, thresh and Peeniss.

17:39 I believe in the books the crane has to wait until the other tributes are far enough from the body so part of Katniss’ rebellion is that she doesn’t let the crane take Rue right away and gives her a funeral

4:12 Gale’s name is in there so many times because he’s from a pretty big family and his father died in the same accident that killed Katniss’s father. There’s a system in the districts called “tesserae” where you put additional tickets with your name into the reaping in exchange for a years supply of food and oil for one person. Some people like Gale, Rue, and even Katniss herself put their names in multiple times to feed larger families. Prim didn’t take tesserae and neither did any of those characters siblings because they all refused to let them risk it.

Rue being a "PR move" TOOK ME OUT 😭😭😭

I'm choosing to believe that Peeta's parents were providing the capitol with these specialized cakes that require this sort of insane level of artistry and that's where he got the skill from cause otherwise I bust out laughing every time I watch the scene

I will say to be fair to Peeta in the beginning of Catching Fire- Katniss basically cut him off completely after the games. His main issue wasn't that Katniss wasn't his gf, what bothered him is how easily she ignored him after everything they went through. I think Peeta's kind heart just didn't have the strength to bottle that trauma like Katniss did, and when he needed someone to be there, someone who understood what he went through, she was emotionally unavailable. We know for all of Katniss' strengths, she is not the most socially adept, and she likely was unaware of what he needed from her, as well as what she needed from him. I don't think Katniss was even aware of how much Peeta's presence could help her process her own trauma until they were forced to be together for the tour.

Sorry I lied, I do have to speak. Peeta is an artist and continues to be throughout the books. He illustrates a book of herbs, plants, fruits etc and their properties with Katniss in CF and he decorates an elaborate cake for Finnick’s wedding in Mockingjay and that’s just off the top of my head. The CIA level disguise for the first movie was over the top though LOL

“you better not be serving seneca crane when i get there” mike: …

Effie was climbing the social ladder so her being assigned district 12 makes sense. You get a better district the better connections you have. Cinna was a new designer so he was assigned 12 even tho he asked for it.

mike and trin with their coordinating backgrounds like wow this really is two queens maximizing their joint slay

I remember almost nothing from the first book I read when I was like 10 but the 1 I remember the most is that it was strongly implied that the mutts where made of the dead tributes, or at least their eyes. They behaved human like and held resemblance to the tributes, I think Katniss recognizes one as Rue.

4:19 Gale has like 3 siblings (plus his mother) to feed who are all younger than him. His mother was pregnant when his father died. So he has to provide for his family. He took out Tess for all of his siblings because, like Katniss, he doesn't want his siblings to put their names in more times than they need to (Prim's name is in their 1! Time) he doesn't want to heighten their chance to get picked, so he takes like 5 Tess + his own name getting tossed in the bowl, doubling every year, for multiple years just so his siblings have a low possibility of getting picked. He puts all the burden and likelihood of getting reaped on his own shoulders so that his family is a tiny bit saver

27:56 Mags volunteered to take Annie’s place, that’s why Finnick wasn’t shocked by the kiss bc he and Mags were like family - Haymitch even says that Mags basically raised Finnick, and that’s also why he’s so sad when she dies :((

Katniss putting those flowers around Rue was one of her first acts against the Capitol because it both gave her favor and showed the brutal truth behind the games themselves to the viewers. She did it intentionally both out of grief and anger.

devastated that you guys didn’t cover the “if it weren’t for the baby” peeta moment where he gagged everyone

OH MY GOD WHEN MY TWO WORLDS COLLIDE

Trin's theory about how the quality of the camera work/shots improves as we and the characters enter the superficial world of the capitol and how it visually blurs the lines between the real world (where the capitol people are hideous and grotesque) and the "perfect" world the capitol (where the extravagance is normal) is genuinely so GENIUS! i NEVER even made the connection in my brain. her observation skills are crazy

mike saying he wantsless romance is so funny bc the books are less romance more rebellion 😭😭 BUT HE WONT READ THEM😭

JOHANNA won her game in the best most iconic way: she pretended to be weak up until the games so that noone paid her any attention and then she just came OUTTA THE GATES SWINGING and for quarter quell she was the only living District 7 female victor

mike and trin together, are you kidding me??? this is the best thing ever omgg

29:10 i think that's because she didn't want Peeta to go back in, so she was so relieved when it was Haymitch's name. You can see how her tone changes again when Peeta volunteers. The fact that her two victors would go back in and most likely die was heartbreaking to her

I feel like this is Effie's first game that is probably why she was assigned to 12 being a newbie. Also why she was so enthusiastic about everything and how she easily got attached to her team

17:36 I’m pretty sure in the books it talks about how they don’t retrieve the bodies when other contestants are around because they don’t want them to escape with the ship or whatever. That’s why they wait until Katniss walks away. Also with the Cato climbing the tree thing, they said it’s because katniss grew up climbing trees outside of district 12 and the other kids haven’t. Also because Cato was so much bigger and stronger katniss was up in the thin parts of the tree so they couldn’t reach her

Their energies match so perfectly!!!! I mean, they got each others jokes, finished each others sandwichs, that is THE collab!

the utterly shameless mentions of the refusal to read the books was comedy gold babes love yall

people always joke about peeta and the cake decor/camo body paint but like it’s discussed in the books that peeta just has a natural talent/likes art period. i’m sure cake decorating was a way for him to practice and explore that in a practical way but his talent for painting is suppose to be bigger and deeper than just the cake decorating and i like that it’s like a little nugget of “this is peeta without the pressure of having to work at his parents bakery or fight in the arena he’s a talented artist” it reminds me of katniss’ singing how it’s not something she could or wants to pursue but it’s a characteristic of her from outside the games or even the pressures of her life back home. it feels kinda funny how 2 people with so much crazy stressful life changing shit happening to them but deep down they’re just kids who like to be like to do their random little hobbies and activities it just feels humanizing, relatable, etc

me sitting here watching u guys ask questions that are answered in the book literally thinking to myself like “wait.. did they read the books?” then trins like WELP WE DIDNT READ THE BOOKS SO LMAOO IM DEAD 😭😭💀💀

Mike’s thirst for Haymitch 😂 Peeta slander is understandable because they did him dirty in the movies, my boy didn’t lose his leg for them to just do that disservice to his character. Capitol citizens wanting Katniss and Peeta to do it already (like Trin) must have lost their minds when the two heavily made out in the quarter quell arena but was pulled back to reality by the lighting. And Finnick waking up seeing their lovebirds tangled together knowing what they were up to while “keeping watch”. 😂 The books have other juicy little details other than the mushy, sticky nightlock berries, just saying.

i vaguely remember mags kind of raising finnick because mags was finnick’s mentor and finnick was the youngest tribute to ever win. they were really close so she was kind of a maternal figure role kind of like a grandmother so the kiss isn’t totally weird if you think about it like that. she also pointed out the cameras after she volunteered for annie and finnick hugged her because she didn’t want the other tributes to see his weakness for her (mags). he was her grandbaby :(

7:00 I think the book (if I remember correctly) implies that usually it’s newer staff that’s placed for the “lower” districts. I think Effie made a remark to Katniss at one point saying something along the lines of “if you win I might get promoted to a better district next year”

Peeta really started the “is it real or is it cake” trend

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE COLLAB OF THE CENTURY!!!

I love this so much. Still watching, but I think the reason Gale didn't volunteer in Peeta's place was because he promised to always look after and protect Prim and her mother. But I agree with Trin in that I've never looked at Gale and thought "He ate", hahaha.

37:55 wondering what the mutts are made of.... in the books the dogs are made to look like the tributes, with identical eyes to each dead tribute and district numbers on their collars. In the prequel you find out the avoxs (people forced into servitude with their tongues cut off as a punishment for rebellion) were used for some of the original capitol mutations. trulyyyyy horror worthy stuff

this is the collab of the ages😭 also, I know they’re not gonna read the books, but it’s so funny how right they are about how many of their questions are answered in the books😭 a couple of thoughts: - there wasn’t much peeta/katniss romance at first cause katniss was genuinely just tryna survive. but at the same time, it was also very romance centric because of the whole “star-crossed lovers” narrative they were playing up - the peacekeepers could have actually not recognized the victors at first cause they don’t have tv’s (from what I remember). peacekeepers stay posted at bases in the districts they are sent to, so it’s not like they came from the capitol knowing full well who everyone was - I’m like 95% sure that they knew what order the sections of the clock were in because of the lighting at the tree signalling 12 o’clock. the lightning struck which signalled fog, then after the hour of fog, our main group went through the monkey section, and so on - I can’t remember if the mutt dogs were also created from absolutely nothing in the books, but there is a capitol lab! if everything from ABOSAS was carried on through the decades, then the monkeys were muttations created specifically for the games - snow chose those flowers cause his grandma’am grew them and was quite obsessed with them - snow and seneca really should’ve just left the “two winners from the same district” rule alone cause it would’ve just seemed like a cool lil thing they were doing for this year’s games

You can tell you guys haven’t read the books 😂 but I still loved listening to this!!

You have a running total of numbers of time your name goes in. It’s 1 when you’re 12, 2 (+1) for 13, 3(+3) for 14, 4(+6) for 15, 5(+10) for 16 etc. Gale put his name in an extra time each year for all of his siblings and mom so they all had an extra serving of bread, oil etc that helps them get through the year

please correct me if I am wrong but did they not cover THE iconic "if... if it wasn't for the baby" scene?! *STILL, could not have asked for a better video, THIS IS IT*

aight as someone who has read the books countless times (comfort book) let me answer ur questions: 1. gale had so many entries bc it’s 1 extra entry each year per person, then you can add entries for per person for a year supply of grain so since gale has like 5 siblings then himself he gets 42 entries because he is 17 which is 6 entries that year. 2.Effie took district 12 bc it was the same district her mother had when her mother was an escort. 3. Cato couldn’t climb the tree because he was too heavy and the branches kept breaking (this is clarified in the books). 4. Flickerman is the host and that job runs in the family, he is very loyal to the capitol and does have control over what he says but knows to keep it in line with the capitol propaganda. 5. The reason the claw doesn’t immediately scoop rue up is bc they don’t send it down if there is a contestant nearby, in order to avoid injuring the contestant or having the contestant try to hijack it or whatever. 6. The reason petta chose that spot specifically is bc he needed to be by a water source since water was limited in the arena and since he couldn’t move easily he wanted to disguise himself where he wouldn’t have to move each time he needed water. 7. I think the Mags/Finnick kiss is due to like cultural norms for district 4. 8. The sigh is bc she knows petta will volunteer, however it could also be bc she knows if petta doesn’t volunteer he won’t know how to mentor (send gifts, get sponsors, etc.) like haymitch does. That and Haymitch wouldn’t do as well in the HG as petta would. 9. The rebellion was simmering before Katniss even came around, however once they had a face that other districts would rally around it kicked into full speed. The victory tour is 6 months after the HG then the next HG is a year later so as soon as the 74th ended and Crane ate it Heavensbee stepped up to create a games that district 13 could use for the rebellion. 10. Johanna won her games by implementing a fake persona, portraying herself as a "sniveling, cowardly fool" then turns out she was a badass with an axe and could climb trees. yupp just venmo me next time girlies.

one of my fav aspects of the books is the mystery around the background characters!! it was the small things weaved in that made them (joanna, annie, tigris etc) so memorable and real. im literally reliving my 12 year old hg obsession rn..

the whole berries discussion has me dead💀

this is so mercedes joining the troubletones like omg the joint slay is slaying

Glad Trin knew she couldn’t JUST make a Hunger Games evaluation without including Mike’s Mic 👑

two minutes in and mike already did the olivia wilde nodding

A duo I didn't know I needed

The contrast and yet the SYMMETRY OF YALL’S BACKGROUNDS I CANT RN❤

Fun fact: in the first book katniss lost her hearing from the explosions and Peeta had to amputate one of his legs, specifically the one that got cut which is why he was camouflaged with the rocks, ready to accept his fate

This is the exact feeling when that’s so sweet life of Hannah Montana premiered 🤩

IT NEVER EVEN CROSSED MY MIND THAT THIS COLLAB COULD HAPPEN BUT I AM SO HAPPY THAT IT HAS

i actually felt the earth shift a bit when this video got posted. the slay of this collab rumbled at a tectonic level

Every time you guys asked a question that was answered in the books a fairly died 😭 anyway loved the commentary can’t wait for the next video you guys are the realest

The thing is if Effie had said Peeta, Haymitch would've volunteered for him, and I don't think anyone between her, Katniss and Peeta were going to let that happen.

amazing collab! you both should get the people who read the books to comment random trivia to you both and then react to those answers or do a try fill in the blank on trivia idk but we need more of this duo

The fact that you didn’t mention Peta dropping the fake baby bomb😭😭😭😭 that was absolute fire🔥🔥🔥🔥

Something interesting in the first movie is that in the training center, fox-face is identifying plants on that machine thing, implying that she actually had a good knowledge about what fruits or berries would be edible in the arena. This could mean that her death by poisoning via berry in the games was a suicide because she probably already knew the berry was poisonous because she literally trained for it.

I could have watched 3 hours of this as a book fan pure entertainment and I agree

record-breaking collab this means so much to me i cant explain it

4:11 Gale has a lot of brothers and a mom to feed. It's for all of them. That's why he has so many entries in the reaping. Imagine this being the same for other kids in 12. Some may even have more than Gale in the reaping just to eat. Which is why it doesn't make sense how Prim (1) and Peeta (5?) got called when their names are very unlikely to get picked.

The disrespect of not having 5 minutes talking about THE dress and "if it weren't for the baby" 😭😭

So happy to see two beautiful queens working together 😊

As soon as you said the answers are probably in the books but you're not going to read them, I unfurrowed my eyebrows and had a very fucking good time 💕💕💕

I will say something interesting about the books and Caesar’s character is in the first book he is described as earnest in a way as in he really tries to help each tribute as much as possible through their moment in the spotlight during his interviews, while I’m sure this changed in the next two books I always found that aspect of his character most interesting.

The mischaracterization of peeta is WILD

No stop,,,, they don’t fully understand how iconic this collab is- I am 24 years of age and squealed at the thumbnail I swear to christ

the visual language difference between The Hunger Games and Catching Fire, could also be cause they switched directors. it's been Francis Lawrence since Catching Fire to Ballad now.

Out of all the names Mike could have said, I wasn't expecting Haymitch. But now that he mentioned it, I would want to read that.

The reason why the camera was so shaky in the first movie was to not get the R rating 😭 it was a way of showing the gruesomeness of the kids dying just out of focus.

Okay I LOVE THIS COLLAB And also, there are people in the US without broadband internet access, meanwhile we have AI and robot police dogs 🤷 so it's not that crazy

Effie sighs because she thinks there’s a chance Katniss and Peeta have a chance of living happily ever after. She’s not a part of the rebel plan and never had a real relationship with haymitch before the first movie

I will explain: Finnick’s whole speech on Interview Night with Caesar Flickerman was one of the last-ditch efforts to convince (or in his case seduce) the watchers to cancel the games. But as we saw, even Peeta’s effort of telling everyone she was pregnant didn’t make a difference… although it was the only thing that got even close!

16:25 in the book katniss mentions that due to her lighter body weight that it was easier for her to climb the tree higher and faster because she wouldn’t break the branches. same as rue. she mentions that she would be the one to climb trees back in district 12 when hunting with gale because she could steal eggs from birds nest and not fall from the trees.

The duo I never knew I needed

My roman empire will always be katniss and peeta's ship name being PEENISS.

This should be a series or a podcast! This collab is everything!

trin this collab is so slay of you thank you for this and for letting me procrastinate my work while you and mike analyse every aspect of the hunger games movies

mike was trying so hard to not do the olivia wilde nod

Not only am I rewatching The Hunger Games, but NEVER in my LIFE did I expect my two favorite creators to collaborate.

The best part if this is every time one of you asks a question the other is like "i'm sure it's in the book or i'm sure we could find out from somewhereee" GOLD

speaking of effy, i remember when the movie came out it was nominated for some awards and elizabeth banks won the award for best on screen transformation or something. so they literally got better makeup for the second movie in the story and in the actual production. iconic.

amazing, my two faves have come together to maximise their joint slay

It's funny that you mention the capitol zoo because well kind of sorta. They're from the muttations lab, those dogs in the book actually had the characteristics physically of the other tributes. There was a glimmer mutt there was a rue mutt Do you know how sick that is.

This video is a masterpiece! You guys play off each other sooo well

The reason why Gale's name was in the reaping so many times is because you could get food in exchange of having more papers with your name. And every year the numbers doubled. That made everything even more horrible, because kids had to risk getting picked for the games if they didn't wanted to die of hunger.

THE SCREAM I SCRUMPT

You guys don't know me, but you did this for me... like this is my superbowl!!!

We love to see Trin do more collaborations. She seems completely comfortable with this guy in her reaction videos.

Loving the more casual format. This video gives off the energy of 2 besties having a chat at a Panera and discussing the movies. Loved it

Trin and Michael’s Microphone feeding the good people🧎

two icons coming together to maximise their joint slay

In the books, we find out that Joanna was really petite and small and throughout all the interviews and everything leading up to the games she would act really timid and scared and shy. But then when she got to the arena and got her hands on an axe she flipped the script and got super aggressive and pretty much hunted everyone down.

Finding out Mike's crack hunger games ship is everything to me