I FIRST... WATCHED, "4 FREE"... ON "KZfaq", AS MANY OF MANUEL de la TORRE's VIDEOS AS I COULD...AND LISTENED CAREFULLY...THEN DID EXACTLY AS HE WAS INSTRUCTING...HOLY SHIT!...I DROPPED 10 STROKES OFF MY CARD AFTER JUST A FEW MONTHS OF PRACTICING OF "NOT FOCUSING ON THE DAMN BALL", BUT ON MY "CLUB AND HOW IT WAS MOVING" INSTEAD. I JUST LOVE THIS APPROACH. IT HAS HELPED ME MORE THAN ANY OF THE HUGE AMOUNT OF TRADITIONAL GOLF LESSONS I EVER HAD. i HAVE BEEN PLAYING SINCE I WAS 10yo...MORE THAN 50 YEARS NOW, AND ENJOYING IT MORE THAT EVER B4... IT SO SAD 😢 HE HAS NOW GONE TO HEAVEN.... RIP "MANNY" AND THANK YOU FOR LEAVING US YOUR VIDEOS TO WATCH, AND LEARN BY...👍❤✝🙋‍♂️✔

I have been playing a number of years and had instruction along the way that focused on body position which I spent hours working on at the range. It came to the point where I had so many swing thoughts I could execute them which let me down the road to the 'quick fix' like on the golf channel. The fix never worked very long and a new fix was required. My golf game deserted me and I was ready to quit until one day I was at the range and a man was getting a lesson next to me and the instruction was completely different than anything I had seen, read or had been told. Manual's method worked for me and I've seen it work for others, the theory sounds simple until you try it as all your perceptions have to change. It's the club you need to move and not force your body to move.

Ed is 100% right about everything he said. I have incorporated all these tips into my game and have improved dramatically! Thank you Ed and thank you Manuel!

I totally agree with Ed, I prefer old school golf swing, more natural, when I swing I only care my grips, swing paths, momentum, rhythm. I don't care how my arms drop, how my left elbow straight, how weight transferred, they all controlled by the "momentum of my downswing"

One of the best interviews I have ever listened to! I have been preaching this for years! So good, so simple! Yet people are duped into believing otherwise! In order to be great in this game. you have to be very prepared to walk contrary to the world's ways!!

My instructor teaches the Manuel de la Torre swing method. After 30 yrs of taking lessons and just not getting it from other instructors in the past....I finally get it with the Manuel teaching technique ! Forget about the body and focus on the golf club. Learn to be aware of it in your swing and your body and swing will correct itself.

Just listened to the podcast today and went to the range. Focused on planting my feet to stay in balance and allowing the club to go through it's arc. Love it!!! Thanks for the tips and all other podcasts!!!

A really interesting discussion! I came to a similar conclusion a few years ago, and it is good to hear that there are some golf instructors who's philosophy is about learning to use the tool first. Of all the lessons I have over years, never once have they ever started with how you should be using the golf club! Most golf instruction always starts with a full swing, which is like trying to play Hotel California on you first guitar lesson! The trouble is most people who take up golf want to start playing straight away - I mean how hard can it be? You just have to hit a stationary object! But golf in one of the fastest games, and probably the one with the smallest of margins (and you've got 14x the equipment to deal with!) Everyone would be better off just starting with wedge and a putter, and not progressing until you've worked out how to use these properly! I'm really interested in the way Moe Norman approached the game. It seems to me that his approach all along was precisely this - using they equipment first to get the desired result, hence the idiosyncrasies of his swing (he also had a unwavering belief in his abilities). Interesting video to watch on him is when he talks his about swing after seeing de la Torre.

This was great

Great video. The school in Las Cruces is Professional Golf Management program at New Mexico State University (NMSU)

@ 0:01 to 27:10 (The Why) / @ 27:11 to 46:40 (The How)

Very interesting video, I remember being at a range and a player said to me that this game is so difficult, my reply was no the game is simple we make the game difficult. It is like the guy who hits one OB left then the next ball OB right, then in despair says to his playing partners to hell with this and tees up a ball and pures it straight down the Fairway, he is amazed and both mad that he could not do it the first time, see on the first 2 shots he got in the way of the swing on the last he just swung the club and got out the way of himself. the secret LOL.

New sub from be better golf. Love this podcast I have a lot of catching up to do.

about 20 yrs ago i had a video with manuel delatorre and i think the man on the right was the host.

Correction; Earnest Jones lost his right leg not his left leg.

Enjoyed podcast,why has golf instruction drifted away from old Manuel De La Torre,s philosophy on golf swing,and did he modify the swing that Ernest Jones taught him,as regards the swing it sounds so simple and makes complete sense.S/J.

people have fretted over the golf swing since it was started. i 've had tons of books over the years the oldest from the early 20's and it's the same thing, way too much analysis.

Why aren’t golf clubs shorter? That way you can be more over the ball and have a much straighter and direct swing towards the target. No????

Manuwell Manuwell :*if only twazz that simple!!!!

So, is the Driver also to be kept in the centre of my stance?

I like this conversation because it is a rare conversation. Let add this consideration, though. Most golfers are not children and/or take up the game perhaps later in their lives. What does this lead to? Guess.....RIght, older men notoriously approach problems or skill development as a process and a rational process. They also have physical limitations, injuries, sports failures in their youths, sports which they no longer can play. This leads to a certain entitlement and a problem-solving focus on their own bodies making movements which lead to clubhead control. Add to this the old commercial slogan of: sell to wants, not to needs and you have a ravenous pack of teaching wolves eager to pocket the local hourly rate. An older golfer is a difficult person to induce to even try swinging the clubhead. If he doesn't accept the simplicity and prefers to insist that difficulty is in his future, he goes on and tries to be a kinesiologist, an anatomist, a person who can decipher celebrated tournament golfers' own impossible descriptions of their swings (i.e., the pro golfer's swing). Add to that how the years appear to grant a man the ability to learn quickly and easily, a fantasy if there ever was one. We men mistake our passive presence on the planet for experience and learning which it is not. We still elect corrupt officials, send our boys and girls to trivializing schools, fall for the same sales pitches, hurt our health with foul eating and sleeping habits and imagine that our beautiful hair will sprout anew on a shiny pate. The principal golf student is a difficult guy (gals not so bad) to persuade of the beauty of the God-given body, of the need for good flexibility (within reason), and a solid program of useful practice where balance, good hands, and feeling the clubhead are the priorities. Once that is more or less habitual, the only thing that matters will be how to play a certain course so we have good opportunities to score well. And, at some point, should we be blessed with time and money to play very often, we have to settle for diminishing returns. Even though I am certain a scratch golfer is very pleased and properly so with his amazing handicap, he is in so many ways the most wretched of players because he KNOWS in his heart that this or that detail in his shoulder, foot, turn, club brand and even diet will remove one more stroke! Well, some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. Adding: all are born with limitations and the costs of exceeding those are in the nature of a sacrifice, a costly one. And, in the end, it is play or serious betting or even both. Winning is great fun, hitting a series of good shots or having a run of low scores is a warm thing to clutch to at a wintertime fireplace. It is, in human terms, a rare experience, few will ever know. Finally, and this is a look under the emotional hood we all keep tightly latched: if we are good solid players, we get a smug satisfaction watching all those golf cripples flail and groan on the range. We know of their frustration, pain, ego-crushing confusion, wasted hours and dollars. And we don't have that any more! Well, not as much...

golf should be a little more instinctive?

Ive had a think about this and I cant quite buy the Yoda/zen approach. I can walk. I can throw a ball straight. Because I am facing my target. So try opening up your body to hit to the target you are facing and you'll end up with a (probably) massive slice. I know where my target is and I know that to get it there I need to hit it flush with a straight facing club, doesnt everyone know that? So why is it so difficult to do? Does this chap think that most people turn instrospective because its fun? Of course not. They are trying to figure out why they can throw a ball straight, walk in a straight line but NOT hit a golf ball straight (consistantly). So as much as this is well meaning and I guess at some level true I cant buy that simplicity as Ive tried too hard to be simplistic about it and it doesnt work (consistantly). Let me throw a curve ball in...what if the target is your ball? You know where you want the ball to go and how far to hit it, so why cant the target be the ball? At least you could then give that target your full attention and give max effort into making the club hit the centre of the ball and keep the club stable and square to where you deem the (external) target to be. Just a thought, thanks for a very interesting video.

He lost his right leg , not the left

Fred needs help... Lol

Stopped watching/listening @ 1: 21 when the guy started using words that He obviously didn't know the meaning of.. "Penultimate" Wtf ?....

Does a car drives you ?

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