blaming FNC because maybe if they tried to cultivate a wider audience for them instead of just touring 24/7, maybe people other than just pieces would know this😭

Originally I came across him on a kpop tiktok compilation and ofc I found him funny, but as I started to get into the group more and I heard him SING!! OML I was like 🤯 this man is ridiculously talented. And I honestly agree that it's disappointing that people focus more on his humor than his vocals.

@@namjinsmoonchildren3219 Yeah, like people have definitely gotten into p1h because they found him funny and decided to look into the group, which is great! But then you look at the average “best 4th gen male vocalists” type posts/videos and he just gets completely overlooked almost every time. People gotta learn to appreciate talent! 🥲

Not just iyo. Jaehyun is easily the 3rd best vocalist in 127. It's not that close. Haechan is overrated. Horrible technique

@@asareirene third/fourth best in nct as a whole not just 127

It's not that horrible.

@@gwanghwamunresident Hmmm. I'm a little conflicted with Xiaojun but Jaehyun is definitely top 4.

@@asareirene yeah thats why i said third/fourth its between him and xiaojun

The way he never fails to surprise me with his vocals 😭❤️

Oh, I’m a babywol and people praise his dancing constantly, so his vocals do feel underappreciated!

Can definitely see this. Key’s a very well-rounded performer

yesss omg he is so talented, many have actually said that they thought his main position was vocalist !

Do I just listen to the most underrated vocalists or WHAT??!! cause Key is yet another SM vocalist whose solo music I listen to the most.

YESSSSS OML! I feel like people don't acknowledge him because he's in the same group as vocal icons Jonghyun, Onew and Taemin; some people don't like his voice too. Kibum is a very underappreciated vocalist.

I love San's voice, in general. ^_^

Yes. His vocal colour in general 😭 Got me listening to Ateez despite their music not being my cup of tea

People should have known since heart attack ❤

There’s a good few Loona vocalists who deserve to be taken more seriously. Haseul, obviously is great, Chuu is as well, but one of the ones that shocked me on redebut is Heejin. I’m not familiar with Loona or their voices, but on her solo album she shot straight up into the territory of my bias because her voice sounded SO good.

We as a community do not talk about Starship vocalists enough! Sure, Liz and sometimes Yujin get mentioned a decent amount because of how popular IVE is. But Boyfriend, Sistar, Monsta X, WJSN, and Cravity are no slouches either!

Finally some Cravity and Woobin appreciation!

​@@Nameless_mixes Starship vocalists are so damn good at what they are doing it's honestly amazing that they can pretty much square up to SM in terms of quality. They need way more recognition in that regards.

OMG CRAVITY RECOGNITION?! MY EARTH BOYS!! 😭😭

Don't we all

Suho and xiumin sadly are definitely underrated , like suho can SING SING to musical to indie rock to pop to ballad he Is really skilled , and xiumin too he is so agile

Agree. I've seen many say EXO got only 3 vocalists but that's totally not true. Suho, Xiumin & Chanyeol are good as well & need to be acknowledged.

​@@averyatwell95 yes chanyeol for sure is underrated

​@@averyatwell95 Yes!! Even Kai sings better than some lead vocalists of well known groups

I was also expecting for Xiumin to be on the list! I think Suho gets a fair bit of recognition as a vocalist (despite not as much as Baekhyun, Chen and D.O), but Xiumin is criminally underrated. EXO’s Killing Voice did a good job of highlighting how his voice is so very important on their songs, even when he’s supporting the others and not actually on his own.

I second that and I would also say Heesung from Enhypen would be also an underrated vocalist. I also think Jungwon (ex-SM trainee) is also not that bad. Surely all three are not the best vocalist out there but througly impressive with their actual skills. And if the work hard I also think the would improve a lot.

Zhang hao has such an AMAAAZING stage presence that it outshines his singing, the first time that i heard him sing i was shocked

@@Moonchild0lol i dont think jungwoo would make the list since the creator already made a video about struggling vocalists which included Jungwoon

i second this. him and taerae as a main vocal duo are def in the top 5 of 4-5th gen

​@@Moonchild0impressive? Compared to the others in their group. Definitely not impressive compared to the other 4th gen vocalists.

The vocal reputation of most idols exactly come from fans who use KVA to rank vocals.

@@moonlightespt1946 oh i despise the way kpop fans analyse vocals. They literally see an idol with idk D+ or whatever and asume that they're the next vocal prodigy in kpop

@@Milan20997 And that's not the even the biggest problem, the biggest problem is that KVA is a wrong and self-made system, it's innacurate and not the correct way to define vocal technique, vocal tiers do not even exist, that's exactly why most idols including Nayeon and Rosé have a bad vocal reputation is all because they spread all of the misinformation.

@@moonlightespt1946 yeah i really dont know how this system became so popular among kpop fans.

omg yes !! i appreciate that u mentioned the other members as well. they all have such unique voices that they all excel in different genres like keeho in rnb, theo in ballads, and jiung in pop songs. their recent album showcases this too bcus i found that i loved keeho's voice in late night calls, theo's voice in love story, and jiung's voice in i see u the most ! their harmonies are to die for as well. they're def not called p1harmony for nothing 😭

Seriously, Jaehyun will have a solo album!!

He has some solo music videos out there, so he hasn’t exactly been hiding. Plus, he’s so handsome that some people are too busy staring at him to pay attention to what comes out of his mouth. 😂 I think he’s terrific at pretty much everything, so the idea that he’s underrated at anything is almost laughable to me, and yet I understand how others can feel that way.

Yess yes yess i agree

Agree

I think it’s bc they’re a band, kinda like the rose so ppl don’t mention them in kpop discussions, but your right their voices are beautiful

@@zorasbae Yeah, I'd say that's one reason. But at the same time, Xdinary Heroes and JYP very much consider themselves an idol group. They go on variety shows, music shows, and do everything idols do, except for dancing. So I wish they would be included in K-pop discussions since they are K-pop in every way other than playing instruments instead of dancing.

Generally speaking, bands tend to get less attention. I wish folks would talk about them more.

He is top 3, after Taeil and Doyoung. People who put him lower are biased towards other members.

Unfortunately, he doesn’t get a lot of lines befitting of a main vocalist in their title tracks. He gets better ones that suit his voice on their B-sides.

hes easily 3rd

I’ve always believed that it’s not how many lines you have, it’s the impact you make with those lines. Jaehyun leads the bridge on “2 Baddies,” and while it’s just one line, he sounds impressive.

@@lulashepard3253 I only really remembered his rap part from it, that's probably why 😭

EXID’s Solji? She definitely deserves to be mentioned! That woman is a vocal legend!

Yea and also THE BOYZ are CRIMINALLY UNDERATED. 😢😢 Sangyeon,New,Jacob,Kevin,Q,Hyunjae,yunghoon all are best vocalist. Even THIER rappers Sunwoo,Eric,Juyeon,Hankyeon can be Lead Or Main vocalist. So Sad They Are Not Here. 😮😮😢😢

​@gyunesslmoass I love The Boyz but they're not all main vocal material😭

I think it's more on the fact that their vocals are often overlooked and overshadowed. I'd consider keeho and san really underrated when it comes to vocals. I think Nayeon and Eunbi are the only ones here that aren't that underrated especially in vocals a lot has praised them over the years and they were popular partly because of their vocals

@@BSMutebi-uk3hi like why i think they are THERE SONGS OFTEN DOESNT HAVE ANY VOCAL PARTS but in watch it you have seen jacobs high hote and in almost all songs sanghyeon high notes AT LEAST NOT ALL MEMBERS BUT NEW,SANGHEON,JACOB

but he isn't underrated though, everyone recognises his talent since he's the best vocalist in his group

Kihyun of MX and Woobin of Cravity! Tbh, we need an entire video dedicated to Starship vocalists. We talk about SME and RBW, but never Starship.

@@ayakohaIt’s subjective. And being the best in your group could still mean you’re underrared if a lot of the public doesn’t know your group as well as some others. It’s hard for a lot of 3rd gen male vocalists to shine because the conversation is often dominated by EXO-Ls being arrogant and Armys being biased (I love both EXO and BTS, but there are so many other great male vocalists outside of those two groups lol)

​@@ayakohaI'm pretty most current kpop stans don't even know who he is so I'd say he's pretty underrated

​@@ayakoha i almost don't see his name brought up in a main/lead vocalist conversationsーmaybe it's just me, perhaps

He is such an amazing vocalists and I see the reason a lot of his seniors in Fnc praise his vocals.

!!!!!

Nah i remember one of nctzen got shocked over jaehyun's bridge on fact check like girl how have you been ☠️

I think it's also the same reason a lot of kpop stans think 4th gen "can't sing" a lot of the vocalist just aren't at the front line of 4th gen

Yes. And that is where the issue lies. TXT has nice vocalists, but most of the time, I am questioning why i am not listening to them on mute. Like they have good vocals, but none that can make me feel the music. And Deja Vu showed me exactly why And don't even get me started on SKZ, because....no just no. One day they give you okay, and the next is a different story. Maybe its because if the signature nasal JYP custom voices that they are ingrained with. For enhypen, nah....as much as people like coming for the HYBE girls for their vocals, people should also look at the boys too.

@@donttalk372 I have issues with all 3 of these groups vocals icl, txt well their songs are so damn high, taehyun be straining more often then not but he’s still the backbone of that group vocally, yeonjun has a nice tone and yk what it work when he isn’t pushed out of his range but he’s not great either. Beomgyus voice is low and kpop just doesn’t train anyone who isn’t a tenor and with the songs txt sings no wonder he struggles, they either smother his voice with weird effects and wonder why he doesn’t pull off them off live or they just give him no lines. Hybes vocal processing is weird they try to make all the members sound as similar as possible so the track runs smoothly, but i enjoy hearing the different quality in ppls voices. Same thing with enhypen. If you watch this creators vocalist who need training/help series, it features taehyun, jungwon, heeseung, Jay and it’s not hard to see why. Now with skz the nasally thing really does bother me icl but I forced myself to get over it bc most male kpop vocalists tend to sound that way (it still gets to me sometimes tho), especially with seungmin, and ik he’s their best vocalist but I prefer Hans voice bc even tho he’s not as skilled he’s way less nasally and his tone is nice to listen to, which i never get to hear bc he’s the rapper so whatever. I.N whos their lead vocalist has a really thin/small vocal which pisses me off bc he’s part of their vocal unit aren’t you supposed to be really good, like how’s your vocal unit have such hard to listen to voices (seungmin and i.n) Chan suffers from the nasal thing too even tho him and seungmin remain consistent with what they deliver vocally, both pretty stable when live so I’ll give props to them for that. Plus i feel like most ppl aren’t as bothered by it as I am and it help that half their songs verses are filled with rap, as opposed to txt and enhypen who are mostly singing so it’s way easier to see txt/enhypens flaws

@@zorasbae you make valid points. People allow TXT, ENHYPEN and SKZ to get away with being vocally challenged since most of the music has raps, auto tune and because they are big. However, why is it that they let the boys get away with all this mediocrity while continuously sh!tting on IVE, LSF and illit for being vocally challenged too.

@@donttalk372 I think it’s bc gg stans are their own biggest haters. I stan both but bgs stans are more rivalry type and most of them stick to their own group, so army’s and exols will drag eachother or stays and moas will drag eachother but they don’t dogpile on a group bc the only groups they care abt are their faves and whoever they’re competing with directly. Like recently zb1 had a bad encore and only briizes were hating but just last week riize had a bad encore and zeroes got their little revenge of whatever by dragging them back. Of course fearnots got involved and said but what abt their encores (as they should bc keep the same energy) but for the most part no dogpiling. Like I was on the bg side of twitter and no moas/stays/engenes we’re talking abt it cause nobody cares. Whereas most gg stans (I stan some) and from what I’ve seen are way more likely to all jump on a gg immediately, like whenever a group slips up I almost always see it on my timeline from a my, blink etc and ofc the bg stans also get involved (especially sm ones who are like my group could never-pull out sticker/Jonghyun push up encore) but it’s like a much smaller portion. Idk why that is (my theory is that there’s alot more male stans in the gg space that enjoy pitting ppl against eachother like they do with sports-ofc it’s not all men and some girls do it too) and when you pit these idols against eachother ppl want to defend/drag their groups and they do it by hating back or deflecting the hate to a different group and it just breeds toxicity. Like I’m on stan twitter and sure bg stans be hating but gg stans take it above and beyond. There’s definitely an element of misogyny there too. Now abt vocals idk much abt illit other then that one encore and I can’t judge them based on one clip so I won’t speak on them. But although I just sh*t on txt, skz and enhypens vocals le sserafim is even worse and it’s a lot more obvious. Sure those boys strain tf out of them notes and be nasally but they’re 75% of the time they’re on pitch. Le sserafims pitch accuracy is pretty weak which makes them an obvious target to hate on bc it’s so much more obvious and in your face, whereas a nasally vocal is like eh that sound annoying but most won’t notice it. Ive vocals tho are definitely overhated, like liz kills it each time, she no ningning or lily but she gets it right and is never off. The other members aren’t great but they stay on pitch and sound similar to the recording like 8/10 times. Ppl think wonyoung is just a pretty face but she could definitely be on this list of underrated singers bc ms gurl can hold a tune better then most of these boys and it’ll sound good. Plus their I am encores were pretty good considering how high that song was, very impressed with them. Sure fheyve had their lip syncing scandals and whatnot but when they do sing live they rarely disappoint

Yes!!! More Sungjin vocal appreciation (i’m biased as you can tell).

@@bobthebuilderday6leader as am I haha but he really does have a such a great and unique vocal.

This,, Hyunsik's vocal range is crazy. Sungjae too

@@n.137And his tone is gorgeous

@@xryvxctyrsyndry Onewe.

N.flying too is a good one

i don't think zaerae and zhanghao are underrated though. they're constantly topping fan-made lists of gen 5 vocalists. jaehee hasn't been given a lot of opportunities to shine yet. i need his lastart vocals.

it's not been a year also they are recognize by their vocals also 4th gen is still shining so i think no one in 5th gen has yet been to complain about underrated wait for some year then see the will slayy

Oh yes, definitely. Their con changed my mind as well. Honestly, I'm neither a fan of Nayeon's tone nor Jihyo's stylistic choices...but seeing them live blew me away. They're absolute performers. I can only listen to a handful of their songs (producers' fault tbh), but I'd absolutely watch their live performances and see them live again.

​@@louise9489 If you're not into their cutesy or retro title tracks, I'd recommend their b-sides from 2019 onwards (including the Japanese ones), they're gems.

Hyojin is from 3rd gen (debut 2017)

He isnt really good, he dont support anything the only technically good vocalist in ateez is jongho

@@francoisdaureville323 support is only one part of a whole World of vocals, on another note, kpopers have a weird concept for support

@@AdToPr breath support is one of the principal things of a technicall skilled vocalist to stay in tune and have pitch accuracy so yes skillwise san isnt good at all, but hes not the worst vocalist ever tho. Till now jongho is the only vocalist in ateez that have a nearly even an above average vocal development

@@francoisdaureville323 obviously makes everything better but let's be real, while is the wall between an amazing vocalist and good/decent one (san being the later), still you can be a good singer without being perfect at support Even amazing vocalists like Ariana Grande struggles with support in some notes

@@AdToPr you are comparing san and Arianna? Look skillwise speaking Arianna is a little overrated, but shes very good, and has a very strong sense of breath support and power Arianna is way more consistant than san, isnt even comparable, so that comparision dont even make sense, theres way worse vocalist in kpop than san, and hes Just a lead vocalist in a group that is mostly Performance base so he is decent by those standards but by real vocal standards he is extremely weak and yuhno is actually ateez 2nd strongest vocalist

Honestly, what's happened to Seunghee? I haven't seen her since 2020 with Helicopter, the last CLC comeback.

Thank you for mentioning Kei. 🥲

I think Seonghwa is really underrated vocally tbh

Yunho, IMO he's really stable Live and has a tone I really like😭

I wish they got more praise! The vocal line of Ateez is so solid, as you can see in their Killing Voice. There a ktuber who is doing a series on here about what each member brings to the group and I love it so far. I also wish Edenary would play around more outside the formula with Jongho and the other vocalists.

Yunho especially amazes me! It's rare to find main dancers with his stability, range, and dynamic control (recorded and live). His voice is used in ATEEZ's background vocals/instrumentals a lot too. Every member is impressive, really. They're all constantly improving.

@@emmy8495is it catchingteez? Her videos are great

Kpop fans aren't used to baritones and how to appreciate them

Blame SM, the lines they give to Jaehyun in group songs are on the level of a sub vocalist even when he's the 3rd best NCT vocalist technique-wise.