Poor Steven getting himself involved with a bunch of psychopaths .

This man’s cold sarcasm kills me 💀 “She got 58 years, if that wasn’t bad enough- she lost her teaching license.” 🤣😂

They raised her to be a monster because they are monsters themselves.

The whole family was evil. None of them were fit to raise Elizabeth. Poor Steven didn’t stand a chance.

What an awful family.

“Consuming refrigerant to cool off…permanently.” That’s sooo witty!

There's an old saying about in laws that goes like: never let them live close enough that they can visit you in their sandals and never far enough that they visit with suitcases.

Oh no! When she gets out, she won't be able to teach.

What a horrible family that Steven got into. Poor him.

The irrationallity of that family is hard to comprehend.....

Nothing better than Dr. Grande's bloopers! Except for his NJ jokes!😅

It amazes me when Dr. G reads off the personality “flaws” of the guilty; the “laundry list” of horrible traits is always the same! What a world!!!

When your psychopath is also a snotty child….

I feel so sorry for Stephen. May he rest in peace.

What an awful horrible family!! Elizabeth is better off not being raised by them and I hope she’s doing okay.

I guess my life hasn't been so bad. I've never had to live in New Jersey.

Poor man didn’t stand a chance😢.

"Like many people who move to New Yersey, Stephen may have had a sense that he'd never leave the state alive". Poor Stephen, I wish he'd never gone there. Hope Elizabeth is OK.

This one pisses me off. That poor guy didn’t deserve that.

Always with the NJ jokes 😂

What's sad, is that no-one realises just how bad these kinds if situations are until it's too late.

These people that view a child as a possession are just crazy. Keeping s child from one parent is despicable. I understand if said parent may be dangerous or irresponsible. But not a loving parent. These people ruined six lives and for what? Child is probably thriving with her grandmother. I hope she can live a full wonderful life.

Kathleen and her mother Leslie both look crazy. They have crazy expressions on their faces.

He never did have a chance with that narcissist. When they keep getting away with bad deeds it gives them a feeling of invincibility. Great breakdown again. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛

"there were no indication that disaster would strike". Did anyone look into that mom's eyes? If I saw that beast once I would run for the hills.

The stoic unflappable facade has slipped with those absolutely stellar blankhole bloopers - Dr Grande: he’s just like us!

No!!! Not the teaching certificate!!! 😮

The gag reel at the end underscores the absolute nincompoopery of that family

It’s interesting what enmeshment and emotional incest can do to children and families. Without external intervention it can cause life long issues for the victim

I have a theory Dr Grande secretly lives in NJ

There's one thing I noticed. Criminals must be the most optimistic people on the planet to think they can do this and get away with it. Or maybe they're just stupid.

I'm going to coin you as the dead pan doctor. Your comedic slights are awesome.

There are a lot of narcissists walking around … scary … poor Steven. It is also scary to think Kathleen was teaching little kids.

Total disregard for that poor little girl.

Her mother looks absolutely insane. Those eyes!!!

Her parents is so evil and bad minded they kill this guy for no reason because they wanted his daughter all for themselves

Prison wasent as pleasent as she imagined

Poor New Jersey...catching strays from Dr. Grande.

I was happy to see you laughing. You are always so serious in your videos. Thanks for sharing those clips at the end with us.

It's scary this woman was a kindergarten teacher. I think the state needs to overhaul the requirements and screening criteria for potential teachers.

The relationship with her parents reminds me of Wendi Adelson and her Mom. 🙄

I was once married to a narcissist sociopath like this for way too long. I escaped the evil mean insanity.

Never been to NJ, but Dr. Grande sure makes it seem to be a real blank hole.

I first heard of this case on Dateline(I think? May have been 48 Hours or 20/20). What blew my mind was that the custody agreement had a part that said(paraphrasing)”Mother will provide food while the child is with her father.” Kathleen didn’t even trust him to feed her properly. 🙄

This was my life with my ex and her lonely mother. I wasn't allowed to touch my infant son, and was blamed after I finally stopped begging. I'm alive, but I was ruined

Have never understood the “decorating with safety cones” aesthetic.

Dr Grande! I loved the out takes! I've never seen this type of footage before, and I've been watching you for years and years. I often wonder what happens behind the scenes....so today was a bonus! 😂

Love the bloopers! Keep them coming 🥳 It’s always nice to see you smile/laugh every now and then 😊

The outtakes at the end are priceless. I guffaw and snort, I giggle so hard. Thanks

People need to contemplate the fact that they aren't just marrying a person. They're marrying another family.

“Blankhole” is my new favorite insult.

It's always a treat when Dr Grande adds the bloopers. 😂

Poor Elizabeth would never have been able to break free from her psychopathic mother and grandparents. It's heartbreaking that she had to grow up without her dad but at least she could grow up free. Imagine being raised by Kathleen, what a nightmare!

I'm living for the outtakes at the end!

What a truly awful family! There must have been some red-flags before their poor daughter was born!

Dr. G, Thank you for covering this case. Poor Steven really got involved with a psychopathic family. My heart goes out to his daughter. 🙏🏻 ** I wish you’d cover the case of Glenn Sullivan Senior, who was sentenced April 17, 2024 to 50 years in prison and a physical castration on him. The judges don’t play in Louisiana! **

The like button is clicked even before the video starts, thank you, Dr. Grande!

I like the bloopers at the end! Takes some of the edge off. I get mad at these monsters, so laughing before moving on helps. Kinda' like the "Bad Seed" ending (original version).

Love the blooper reel! 😁 So good to see you giggling, Dr Grande! Thanks for all the hard work you do to keep us all entertained!

Wow, some similarities with this story and my marriage. When my son was born my wife would not allow me to touch him, and I was most certainly made to feel dangerous.

I think this raises an interesting point, we often become the things we were raised to be making it seem like it was destined for us to get to the life we have simpky because of the parents we got and It is a hard question to answer if anyone can not become a monster if they are raised to be a monster

I am always here for Dr. Grande's consistent character development in his hatred for New Jersey.

The parents maintained control of Kathleen, then she repeated the cycle with Elizabeth. Totally messed up.

My best friend lives next to her in-laws and they are super manipulative, but her husband and her stand up to them.

There are a lot of cases I listen to in which a divorcing couple wants to live in separate states but they run afoul of either state law or an unreasonable attitude by one or both parents. Conflict over this issue is wholly unnecessary, provided that both parents behave like adults and both have the best interests of their child at heart. I was divorced in the 1970s. My ex left with our daughter to another state a thousand miles away. We arranged to have joint legal custody, and a cooperative arrangement for physical custody. Our daughter lived with her mother during the school year, and visited me at other times. It is not difficult for children to fly alone under the supervision of airline flight attendants. When apart, we stayed in touch by mail and telephone. Now she is fully grown and close to both of her parents. Laws that interfere with where the parents choose to live don't make any sense at all and should be repealed. Joint legal custody should be the norm, unless there is a good reason to drny one parent custody. Primary physical custody should be such that continuity in school is maintained as much as is practical. Too much traveling during the school year conflicts with that. Just be civilized! Act like adults and cooperate in the rearing of children, despite personal differences.

I just want Dr. Grande to diagnose why people live in New Jersey.

Evil in her eyes 😈 👁 👀 😳

Excuse me but Leslie's expression is unsettling. She looks enraged.

I wonder if post partum psychosis played a part in all this. Kathleen's behaviour changing after birth to extremely controlling and suspicious of the father and wanting to cut him out completely seems consistent with ppp. I wonder if that was the case and she had been diagnosed and treated maybe the outcome wouldn't have been so catastrophic. Of course ppp doesn't excuse murder and she is where she should be.

The poor child

"For this cause shall a man/woman leave their father and mother and shall cleave to their spouse and the two shall become one flesh."

The "blankhole" outtakes 😂 had me rolling haha

5:45 - it is said that Lelsie was quite the looker in her younger years...

With all these cases of people killing the other parent for custody, how do they think THEY are going to get custody? Or that their children are going to be endeared to them?

Wow the whole family is batsht crazy and the pictures of them just add to it. Theyre right out of Stephen King novel.

The thought of this woman being a Kindergarten teacher is argggghhhhhh

Why'd that whole family think this was ok to murder that poor guy. 😮😢

Its amazing how sobering prison is to no access to hair dye and make-up. I wonder what people look like to no access to botox and fillers.

Lolol! The outtakes and Dr. Grande's laugh/smile at the end made my day. 🙃

OMG, the bloopers at the end! 😂 I KNEW you'd have a nice smile! 😁

Love the outtake Dr Grande! It was probably New Jersey that made her that way.

Thanks for sharing the outtakes at the end, that was fun :D

Man I loved the bloopers at the end. I'm somewhat relieved to know that Dr. Grande is laughing just as much as I am at his deadpan delivery. Another great video Doc

Good morning from Australia.

The thumbnail of her on this video told me everything I didn't want to know about this woman.

The outtakes at the end had me in tears 😂 I’ve often wondered how you keep a straight face with some of these cases. That family were evil. They reminded me of my ex-parents-in-law. They were always over involved and critical of me especially. They went so far as to report me to DOCS (I live in Australia) because they thought I was giving our baby boy “temper drops”. The drops were actually baby paracetamol prescribed by the doctor. The brand name was Tempra Drops. The thought plan was for them to get custody of their grandson. They actually thought he was theirs. As in, what was their son’s was theirs too. DOCS were very apologetic after meeting us and our baby and obviously dropped the case. We banned them from our lives after that.

The pictures are killing me! Also, Dr Grande trying to keep his perfect expression while reading a ridiculous message to the poor husband from that crazy wife.

It's Horrifying to me when a family plots, and Murders an Innocent Person!

Dealing with this in my ex wifes narcissistic family system (apart from the death, plenty of destruction and emotional incest). The psychopathic borderline behaviours of the grandmother are unbelievable and have caused a triple cross generational alliance, affecting my two daughters severely. Wish it upon no one, careful who you meet and decide to have kids with, in the beginning, it does seem like perfection, which is the first red flag.

What a horrid family.

Love the comedic relief. The bloopers and the lesson. Family dynamics. Check.

The end of this video made my day! 😂 Dr. Grande, you never fail

VERY disturbing events oddly soothing the way Dr Grande tells it!❤t/y

How very New Jersey of them all.

Love the ending, laughing with you, Dr. Grande 😅😅

Your description of Kathleen's personality pathology is probably the best one you have done yet. Agree wholeheartedly.

Damn. New Jersey casually catching strays 😂😂😂

Wow, stomping on New Jersey.

Dr. Grande’s “only speculating about what could be happening…” followed by the quick shifty eyes kills me every time 😂.

The out take at the end DOC. OMG. Thank you. That made my day!!❤