Age-Old Internal Muffling Hack? | Season Six, Episode 48
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Ай бұрынWe certainly didn’t come up with this one but it’s been brought up a number of times and we decided we were long overdue for giving it a shot. This muffling hack has been employed in a variety of ways with the intention of focusing the overall drum sound through contact exclusively with the drum shell. As a result, the drumhead feel doesn’t change at all.
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@johnminarik3442 Ай бұрын
The ringing of any metal snare has always made them sound like garbage cans unless you can somehow bury it in the mix. I used to "rag" my snare until I figured out the way to take out that ring. I do use a rosewood snare that I have never found anything better sounding. Thanks for the video! Experimenting and tuning is key, and you do not need to spend inordinate amounts of $$.
@dalekay9ine Ай бұрын
Some people like the ring my dude- a nice musical ring makes a snare sound great to my ears.
@johnminarik3442 Ай бұрын
@@dalekay9ine I do not mean to impose my preferences on anyone, so please take no offense. That is why music and sound is so subjective and beautiful. Keep playing, if you do.
@dalekay9ine Ай бұрын
@@johnminarik3442 no worries, just sharing my opinion. Drum on!
@williamfotiou7577 Ай бұрын
Garbage cans, is a pretty offensive way of putting it. You may want to argue that with Hal Blaine who recorded thousands upon thousands of songs with a Supraphonic. Thousands of recordings from just 1 drummer in history is a pretty strong endorsement of how good a "garbage can" can sound. Or how about Joe Morello? Until you hash it out with them, I'll keep on using my Supra; only been 50 years!
@johnminarik3442 Ай бұрын
@@williamfotiou7577 No offense intended. I am referring to the old metal cans and some have a nice ring to them.
@jerrygamez5723 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. You guys are awesome.
@thepluggy1 Ай бұрын
Tama have a signature snare, the lil john roberts snare, where they have a bead of silicon in there, pretty much does the exact same thing, this is a nice hack if you wanted to try for that sound
@ahnadr Ай бұрын
How about the batter side? I suppose I could/should just try it myself. I like my snare side ringy
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Ай бұрын
subtle to no difference seems to slow down the 'frequency' of the vibration on some exxamples but that could be the velocity difference of the hit.
@ItsABOUTflamTIME Ай бұрын
I tried putting acoustic foam on the inside of a snare before, not touching either of the heads. I was told that this reduces the volume of the drum without muffling it. In reality, it just muffles it. But that's still potentially useful.
@VON_RHEDBEARD Ай бұрын
Great video guys!, and I absolutely hear the difference, especially when you played the muffled version center rimshot
@Tyl-Fiedler Ай бұрын
Did you See it already ?;D it was uploaded 7 min ago , your Comment is 5 min ago and the Video is 8 min Long 😃 Kidding as always nice Information @soundslikeadrum ❤
@G60syncro Ай бұрын
Thinking out loud here.... I've sandbagged my 20" kick for years, it's just too light and without a tom or cymbal attached to it, it just wants to go everywhere. I know you did a video on this and it corroborated what I experienced tonewise when I did that. Now if you put sand in an inner tube and nestle that sand snake in the bearing edge... perhaps with creative use of 14ga copper wire you could fashion a couple of claws to hold it in place... I'm wondering about the effect of so much added mass!!!
@geoffcowan2384 Ай бұрын
That difference is so subtle that I don’t know if an audience could hear it in a full band setting nor would a listener be able to hear it on a mix. Good technique to know, but too subtle for any situation I find myself in. As always, thanks for sharing the knowledge!
@adamnealon773 Ай бұрын
They might not notice it but they would certainly “feel” the difference
@geoffcowan2384 Ай бұрын
@@adamnealon773 hahahaha!
@frankievalentin533 Ай бұрын
I glue a car v belt in the late 70s. Still rocking that Ludwig supersonic!
@TheCOZ Ай бұрын
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@mr.anderson70 Ай бұрын
Convenience store cheese whiz is my go to.
@kushking420 Ай бұрын
Muffling a snare sounds like a box imo. Although I do find it works for some situations with a wallet, moon gel or percussion instruments on do have a useful purpose. no hate here, watch all your videos!
@SoundsLikeADrum Ай бұрын
What did you think about this more subtle form of muffling?
@kushking420 Ай бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum I think it's a great idea, it's not over dramatic on cutting out all the ringing, and doesn't sound "boxy". I just tried it myself today, on my steel snare and love it, doesn't have an extremely loud ring like before and i like that it also doesn't show.
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