Grievous' Nerf is the greatest anime betrayal I've experienced

Filoni hides behind Lucas and sticking to his vision...but kept Ahsoka alive EXPLICITLY against George's wishes. He has no leg to stand on. Guilty af.

The 'bad guys pointing guns at the protagonists and have several seconds where they would logically open fire, BUT don't' is possibly my most hated cliche in any live action anything. But everyone in this show is an idiot. Especially whomever designed assassin droids which announce themselves, announce they're self destructing, put a long fuse on said destructing and also let their databanks be unfried after they are destroyed.

In the old EU I always assumed that the "witches" simply used rare dark side Force abilities. Some of the Old Republic Era Sith used Sith Sorcery.

Sad part is, critics of Disney Star Wars and Filoni’s work are called “toxic” for not praising in lockstep with everything they make. Meanwhile, these sycophants are vastly more toxic for labeling all opposition as bigots and being ambivalent to the further decay of a once great franchise

I disagree with the idea that Dave is Lucas' apprentice. If he was, Ahsoka would be dead right now.

Honestly Thrawn was such a misused character that he was there in name only. After Rebels Thrawn should have made a tepid alliance with Ezra and bring him back to his home world to see it in shambles from the Chiss's enemies which Thrawn would find himself NEEDING Ezra and his emerging Jedi powers to level the playing field while also showing Thrawn as the genius he is, we could also see his limited perspective blind him to the possibility of peace which Ezra would discover and complete his journey to becoming a Jedi by bridging a previously unthinkable peace. That would have been awesome. Instead, we just get Thrawn being a bad guy again when the story and Thrawn himself called for something different.

Star Wars just seems to be a franchise that breeds Hubris in it's directors for some reason.

Man, imagine if Boba Fett was just Clint Eastwood and it was called Gran Torino, it would have been really great.

It's amazing how the journey went from "Why does ahsoka even exist?" to "She's ok now" to "my god they are over using her" to "omg dave actually did it and put time travel in for his waifu" to finally "why does ahsoka even exist now?"

This guy is just cowboy hat Todd Howard with all the cadence of a chess club member

One of the biggest issues with the Ahsoka and Sabine scene is that with Obi Wan he was using what he had to teach a completely inexperienced Luke but Sabine is a veteran of the rebellion, a mandalorian and knew Kanan and was with him while he was blinded and had to use the force to see. This show seems to forget that entirely and makes her look like an idiot. Gone with any sense of character Rebels created.

is that intro for ted bundy ?? that's savage

I remember Penny Arcade did a comic about the Clone Wars show once: "[They're] going through canon with an axe. I don't know what's true any more!' "[Star Wars] is about space wizards who live in the past-future. Believe whatever...you want." "That's because you don't care about Star Wars. Imagine someone made a show about Cthulhu and every time they destroyed a civilization he said 'you just got Cthulhu'ed'!" "That...would...be...fine..." (cue nose bleeding)

It's hilarious hearing filoni talk about his "ability to tell stories".

I usually hate when creators add senseless scenes to finish their dialogue but the way you do it and the comedic timing is great.

"Because it was a bad show for X, Y, or lack of Zeb reason" Killed me

I began to hate Filoni's vision of Star Wars after how he handled ARC Troopers. In the original lore, they were specially bred to be more independent and hand trained by Jango Fett himself. I never got how they were any different from anyone else in the show when he kept making all the clones some Gi Joe soldier with their own marketable designs and personalities. Yeah, the humanization of the clones was pretty cool, but it clashed so hard with legends. I all but lost it when they introduced the inhibitor chip, being that the legends story was so much more interesting before it.

How does the New Republic even work? Why should the Chancellor hold a vote in the Senate to allow the general (!) to take a squadron if only one senator can approve this mission? Huyang throughout the series: gives logical and rational arguments for why Ahsoka's actions are idiotic. Ahsoka: no. Do as I say, I have plot armor and plot luck. Huyang: Okay. Minefield. Do you have any idea how many mines it takes to mine SPACE? And how long will it take? And why weren't any whales harmed by them? Naturally, flying straight through the wreckage, you won’t damage even the antenna on your boat... Sabin, you still haven’t told Ezra the situation, even though you don’t have time? What a stupid cow you are... How did Beilan and Shin negotiate with the red riders, who obviously do not know their language and who caught them over the corpses of their comrades? Naturally, Ahsoka and Sabine can connect mentally, despite the fact that Sabine is insensitive to the Force... and Ezra is sitting next to her, but Ahsoka does not feel him... Witches can not only sense Ahsoka, but also determine her position on the map with an accuracy of up to a meter? But they couldn't find Ezra for 10 years? Thrawn, if you don't care whether you defeat your enemies or not because you'll get off the planet, why don't you just shoot and bomb them from the air instead of sending a useless landing party? Actually, you don’t have many soldiers left, and you still have to fight the Republic... Ezra. You're a fucking Jedi. Take your fucking lightsaber and fight Shin! Sabin doesn't even use it! Ezra is so strong that he can forcefully stop Shin's blows, but Shin can knock him back and knock him out? The Ninja Turtles invented flying armored personnel carriers, but they shoot with fucking slingshots? By armored riders? How about just running them over? Ahsoka, why did you jump off to fight Baylan if your goal is to help Ezra and Ahsoka and he doesn’t threaten them? And your plan was to let Huyang burn you with flashes? Naturally, Ahsoka can simply drive into the frame through a crowd of stormtroopers, they can’t do anything at all... How about disarming and tying up Shin so you have a hostage and an extra lightsaber? No? In short, I've had enough. The series is shit, which will be licked because they showed us a hologram of Anakin and he said “Ventress.” Filoni is an arrogant hack, no better than Abrams or Johnson. Thanks everyone for reading.

You are entitled to your enjoyment of The Clone Wars TV series, but to me, the Clone Wars Multimedia Project will always be the true Clone Wars experience: an Ahsoka-free storyline that gave us some of the best parts of that era of “Legends” continuity without the need to override and desecrate the stories that came before it. Barriss Offee, Siri Tachi, and General Grievous deserved better.

That intro was absolutely perfect! Love your work! Keep it up!

They should have gone with George’s idea to kill off Ahsoka. I loved her when I was kid, so it would bring more weight to Order 66 if she was killed.

I don't really care whether Filoni is 'true to George's vision' because, well... George wasn't exactly a perfect creator, as you outlined yourself. What I DO care about is the fact that he's an extremely low-quality writer when it comes to things as basic as plotting, character writing, and even basic cause of effect. I've been deeply unimpressed by all of Filoni's work that I've seen, to the point that I'll clearly need to watch TCW at some point, just to understand why *anyone* likes him at all.

Notice how he says I “knew” him… he already thinks he is smarter than George

The Fanbase: "YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!" *It was said that you would destroy Disney's insanity, not join them!"*

Filoni is that guy showing up to a party in a Wolf sweater talking about how all his ideas to fix the world would work if only those in charge were smart enough to listen to him. Also, I wish he'd keep George's name out of his mouth. The laziness and irreverence are strong with this one.

I think George was talking about bluster and naivete when saying Ahsoka wouldn't be afraid of grievous. Teenagers aren't known for being of sound mind and a Jedi like Ahoska even moreso. Remember what Yoda said in AOTC when Obi-Wan talked about Anakin's pride and hubris? "Yes, a flaw more and more common among the Jedi. Even the old, more experienced ones." Not to mention how Jedi are trained from infancy to master their fear. And that's really the sense I get from Dave in regards to him being George's student. To quote Anakin from Legacy: "You know so much. You understand so little." Also, saying Ahsoka being small would be a boon shows he has no idea how sword fights work. The difference isn't nearly big enough to make her hard to hit, and she's nowhere near agile enough like Yoda to make it somewhat believable. She should have been destroyed by Grievous.

I love the 2008 Clone Wars, not because of the people who made it, but because they made a good story, and with George's help. Honestly while I do appreciate Dave's work, the hype around him isn't as deserved as I originally thought

Filoni didn't prove himself like Lucas did though. TCW does not hold up, and neither Rebels nor the Bad Batch were ever good.

Ahsoka did do irreparable damage to Star Wars. Lucas once described Star Wars as there is a lightside (selflessness), a darkside (selfishness), there are choices characters make, and there are consequences for those choices. Throw in family/relationships also as Lucas said Star Wars was about family. This is all dressed up with space battles and different worlds to make it more interesting. Sabine in Ahsoka was a selfish ass who lied, stole, was a coward when she told Ezra nothing, was untrustworthy, and sacrificed the entire welfare of a galaxy and people she called family in Rebels: Hera, Zeb, Chopper, and Jacen for one guy. She was SELFISH at the start and end. Her selfishness didn't even make sense because one second, she was resigned to at best maybe finding Ezra (she thought Ahsoka was dead and was happily just winding down the clock until Thrawn left) and spending the rest of her life with him and the next she doesn't even shed a tear or get upset when he leaves. Ezra was basically a McGuffin. Sabine was a selfish ass that undid Ezra's very Jedi like sacrifice, her motives didn't make sense (if she was madly in love with him she would still be an ass but at least there is motive), she unleashes Thrawn and the Night Mothers on the galaxy. She did all of this and suffered NO CONSEQUENCES. Yes, Anakin did some horrible things as a Jedi, but he fell from grace and suffered horribly for it. Worse she is now considered a Jedi and she was forgiven by Ahsoka without even a slap on the wrest. The audience is supposed to think that Sabine "did well." This stabs at the very core idea of Star Wars. I don't think the fanbase understands this yet. Every single death in the main galaxy done by Thrawn, the reunited remnants, the Night Mothers, and the what I'm guessing are Night Brothers and Sisters in the stasis pods will be on Sabine who now as she officially is considered a Jedi represents the Jedi. Jedi has no meaning anymore. This may be the worst offense ever done to Star Wars. Going into future content this shift into two tier morality where the good guys are good simply because the writer says so no matter what they do will be very noticeable. What Star Wars is heading for is a "Jedi Order" in the new galaxy led by Ahsoka and Sabine. Likely Shin will be "redeemed" and made part of that order. I wouldn't be surprised if Shin and Sabine have a lesbian romance. They'll have this while the main galaxy burns down from Thrawn without any care at all. In the main galaxy there will be a new "Jedi Order" setup by Rey in her new movie they planned. That will likely be messed up morally also. Luke is disgraced and he dies in the sequels and Ezra will likely die in the main galaxy against Thrawn. We are heading to a place where the Jedi lose any meaning at all, and the force is female. Sabine was well liked in Rebels but now sits in character rankings around Jar Jar Binks. This character is mostly living off of her likability in Rebels so her Ahsoka ranking alone is likely even worse. Binks was canned by Lucas because he was too disliked. We have a new main character "Jedi" that is as disliked as a canned character. Think about this!

The bit with Ezra and Sabine getting relegated to merely a “sisterly” relationship made me realise… Disney Star Wars is almost completely deprived of romance.

I have seen 5 or 6 videos that include some sort of take down of the blind fighting training, and have not noticed this: Sabine literally lived and worked with a jedi who lost his vision and had to learn to see through the force. Like the dude had his eyeballs burned out. It was a whole deal and everything. She definitely knows jedi can use the force to see. Also, I might be wrong but I think Ahsoka helped Kanan get his mojo back. Their behaviour in this scene makes zero sense based on life experience we have seen them have.

if you are expecting high quality storytelling in star wars after all these years, i dont know what to tell you.

Genndy Tartakovsky made the ultimate clone wars material before this hack.

Im so happy this flopped honestly. Speaking il of Dave was like putting a bullseye on your head. Now that the crafted "savior of star wars that can do no wrong" image has been shattered he will get the criticism he deserves. As a massive star wars fan I have always felt his ego that could go unquestioned, made much of his changes and work feel more like a fanfic writer more interested in throwing his own creations into star wars rather than him "respecting lore" and telling the storys of established chars. I mean the clone wars. Literally called the clone wars. Sidelines every single clone we as fans knew and loved. To promote new clones we knew nothing about. Prime example. Commander bacara. Remember that unique clone that executed potatoe head? Ki adi? They literally replaced him for jet? Why??? You could have seen the freaking marines!! What about neyo? Bly? Gree? Appo? Cody even! Even Cody is terrible. He's sidelined to say nearly nothing and be there for lip service instead of telling his story. Another example is bad batch. Who wanted a rag tag band of moron commandos? EVERYONE WANTS DELTA SQUAD. But no. He inserted his fanatic chars in and made a series about a bunch of mentally and physically disabled morons. The only decent thing I can say is I guess the clone wars did the jedi decently. But they felt too nice to me.

I think that while there's plenty to say about Filoni, one significant mistake people are making these days imo is assume that he has all the creative control that Lucas once did. Lucasfilm is no longer one man's vision, it's just another small part of Disney. To blame him for all the problems, as if he didn't have to answer to execs at both Disney and Lucasfilm (including KK and her wonderful vision for Star Wars) is seriously misunderstanding the situation. Ultimately whether he's good or bad, he's a small part of the equation. Star Wars is just one more piece of mass produced garbage that Disney is putting out, that's why it sucks.

The Bundy edit is absolutely savage, what a takedown (he's absolutely the weasel type). Need to see you do a panel with Darth Melvin, Raging Ryno, Ryan Kinnel and really go into the weeds on this treasonous clown.

Sabine suddenly able to wield the force is clearly a move for girl power. Why now, then instead in Rebels, where she constantly at the side of two people that were force sensitive. It been better if that was not included. Technically, George wanted to kill Ashoka for Anakin's build up for his fall to the Dark Side, but her original character prevented her death. There been a constant push in Disney for female leads to replacing male leads, saying there's not enough female leads. I got no issues with the idea, but proper character development and a good if not great story line.

Leaving the galaxy was the moment it became unrecoverable for me. I honestly think its a bigger issue than people let on, and opens the door on too many things.

I've never liked Dave Filoni ever since he bulldozed the original Clone Wars MMP, particularly Tartakovsky's work. That showed that if nothing else, he was a hack that had no respect for the work of other story-tellers. So I completely ignored TCW and basically anything else he did. He was lionized after TLJ and I can understand why but that Filoni has NEVER respected even Lucas' own continuity. He brought back characters that George himself killed in AOTC. That's apostasy in the highest degree as far as I'm concerned. You simply don't try and override G canon. If George said it happened. It happened. Eeth Koth, Maul, etc. Ahsoka is Dave's super special "OC do not steal" and her show is the culmination of his failing as both a story teller and a creative mind if general. He can only use the stories of more talented creators to prop up his own work.

It's funny that Filoni is destroying his own characters, like he seems to forget what his characters are at all.

The fact that they didn't redraw the mural and actually tried to wring pathos out of the unfathomably goofy image of the animated Clone Wars cast plastered on a wall in a style totally divorced from any depiction of art in Star Wars really drove home the realization that this series has the depth and complexity of a McDonalds Play Place. The storytelling went from "rote Hero's Journey" to "toy commercial with literally no plot," and the weird thing is how few SW fans seem to notice the difference. The OG Star Wars series survived despite its stupidity, not because of it. The original trilogy (particularly a New Hope) kept you on this emotional knife edge where things were "fun" because they were intense, not because they were silly. Chewbacca threatening to rip off arms: fun because intense. The scene where C3P0 think he's hearing the cast screaming as they are crushed to death but in reality they are whooping with relief: fun because intense. The scene where Luke finds himself fighting a moon-sized battle station as his fellow rebels die horribly all around him: fucking incredible because intense. The funny thing is, you can see that Filoni and the other writers understand this on some level, because they try to make every single encounter between characters this legendary event replete with high drama and cool poses and dramatic samurai fight scenes. And it doesn't work because you start to realize there are no normal people left. It's just this galaxy where EVERYONE is special. We got to see Luke Skywalker in his down time, making a fool of himself, revealing that at the end of the day he was a normal guy who had decided to do something important with his life. It wasn't just that he was "special," and that purely existing meant that he would naturally interact with all the important people and do all the important things. In some part, Star Wars was about this idea that you can live every day of your life without making a difference, or that you can spend every day until you die fighting for what you believe in, but first you must believe in something. Luke's a good protagonist because he understands the importance of the things he's doing, and because the option to fuck off and make it everyone else's problem is always presented to him as an option. He DECIDES to do things. He could have rebuilt his home, buried his aunt and uncle, and spend the rest of his days with the dim awareness that life was unfair and wondering if he could have done more, KNOWING he could. But he doesn't do that. He goes on a journey right in front of our eyes. He is vulnerable in a way no other character ever is because he believes in goodness, and that belief stands the test. He learns that there in good in him, and in the awful, cruel galaxy he calls home, and in many of the strange, alien creatures that seem so threatening at first. He makes sacrifices, he learns, and decides. And his decisions inspires others. Luke's journey was never just his own, because he understood that being a good person means more than fighting bad people, it means loving them. He saves Han's life by giving him an ideal beyond survival. After an evident lifetime of deceit and fear, Han finally sees someone doing the right thing, someone who earns his begrudging trust and respect, someone who sees the good in everything, even him. Han's soul is redeemed, and he saves the entire rebellion. Luke doesn't fight Vader but he doesn't run away, that's his decision. He body-blocks the concept of destiny as it has been presented to him. He's there to stop a fight, not finish one. Giving in to the Dark Side was this tangible threat because Luke started the series going with the flow in a universe that needed people fighting for it, and because you knew his dad had done the same thing back when the Jedi were something he'd dedicated his whole life to. There were threats to Luke's character because he had one. He had a bad side, he had an impatient side, he had a side that told him he knew best. And those were FLAWS, because the writers allowed them to be. Making Star Wars this safe place where everyone looks like they just stepped out of a salon and wields some legendary blade and was trained by robot ninjas makes it fucking SHIT. I liked Star Wars when it felt like a glimpse into a different world that could conceivably exist, not into the imagination of a 13-year old DragonBall fan

Calling Disney's version of Thrawn, a Doctor Evil level of villain, is actually an insult to Dr Evil. Disney Thrawn makes Dr. Evil look like Batman in comparison!

Disney Thrawn is a stupid person's idea of a smart person.

George was wrangled properly when the OT was made. He had free reign during the PT, and we had some mishaps, along with some of the absolute best moments of the entire franchise. Filoni was wrangled properly in his time on Clone Wars, and then had mishaps, along with some of the best of animated Star Wars. Now we're seeing what he really wants, and that's to make his waifu invincible and perfect. I loved Ahsoka in TCW and Rebels, but not so much after that. With everything else put aside, such as Anakin appearing for Ahsoka but allowing Luke to fail, it's all headed in a bad direction in my eyes. Hopefully it picks up and gets back on track to something great, but it's not looking like that's what we're gonna get. Great video man, I just want to slightly criticize the constant cutaways to the short clips from the series. It was a biiit much, but I will allow you to ADD THIS FINE SUBSCRIPTION TO YOUR COLLECTION

If what Dave said about Lucas only intending the movies and show as canon, why did he (Lucas) include easter eggs of the EU in rereleases? Lucas never said the stories of EU were non-canon, rather they were a different kind of canon (which you could still take as one being canon and the other not, but that wasnt really Lucas' intention as evidenced by shit like the inclusion of Dash Rendar's ship taking off from Mos Eisley)

Even as an OT guy that really wasn’t a fan of the prequels I still found redeeming qualities in the story George told. I may have hated jar-jar, the wooden acting, the super-powered jedi and the way the cartoons messed up movie canon but the overall story arc and the world building was still carefully put together like Star Wars should be. Just a glance at anything Disney except Rogue one and Andor and I can tell those shows/movies characters aren’t in the same universe George created…

He can't Filoni in all his own plotholes. At least Lucas was imaginative, not just whales and wolves in space.

Didn't the whole "George's protegé" only start when Filoni himself kept referring to himself as such?

there is another rebels male character missing in the series, Kallus.

It really funny how Filoni thinks changing a character’s clothes counts as character development. Like, he noticed that Anakin’s clothes become darker in the prequels (along with a massive character shift) and said Oh I’ll just change Ahsoka to white and she’ll be magically pure now! Also give this man a sub! Do it!

I can’t see how anyone can think obi wan is worse than this. I always thought filoni was a hack. His works are made for children. He turned eu Thrawn into a cartoon villain. Then zahn turned his own eu Thrawn into a soap opera gundam esque savant that only exists because the emperor put a pause on his xenophobia for the point of??? Well idk, maybe so that price and Thrawn could go around on becoming cartoon villains for “relatable” reasons. As if seeing characters becoming coruscanty socialites is what we all want to see. Obiwan had terrible acting and the worst villains I’ve ever seen in any media but part of the reason is that inquisitors were always utilized as cartoon fodder. Obi wan the show served the purpose of showing how the disgraced Jedi obi wan transitioned into the hermit old Ben and I think it achieved that. I can’t say it did a good job but.. At some point they had to address the trauma of anakins betrayal. Obi wan had a purpose and achieved it somewhat heavy handidly and certainly in a way that was as ugly as it could get. But it’s so much better and more respectful to the original six than “fat Thrawn and his witch harem”

I feel like I don't see it said enough that Ashoka's central problem is that none of the characters felt like their rebel counterparts at all, Ashoka included. You wouldn't guess that any of them had any kind of history with how underwhelmingly they interacted or even greeted each other

One of the reasons why I as a DM never liked setting my D&D games in existing settings, is because I had to learn too much about said setting. They had "rules" which I didn't want to be constrained by. At the same time, this is why you need Lore custodians, who can assist a writer and director into making a story that works within the setting. I know for instance Warhammer novels tend to give certain chapters to a writer. Sort of making that writer partly the custodian for that chapter of space marines. Which is a great idea, since it limits the number of rules each person needs to learn at any given time

I don't really think the reason for Ahsoka being stoic is mainly to have Anakin and Ahsoka together. It was mostly because Gandalf transition to Gandalf the white in LOTR, that Dave loved. He wanted to create that himself with Ahsoka. It became nothing she changed he wet close.

That intro was too perfect. Just found your channel and am loving the content. Keep up the good work.

I dropped off rebels when Vader and Thrawn became more prevalent and when they butchered lore by turning Malachore 5 into a glorified fighting arena. Ok credit to the witches of Dathomer in general they are a subset if force users that were exiled to Dathomer after learning about Sith alchemy. In that case "magic" was just the force in a guise ( in the clone wars season 7 Duku and Palpatine use it when Yoda visits Koriban). My problem with filoni and the clone wars team was making Dathomer only have nightsisters a single clan of the witches.

Gandolf didn't become The White, because he challenged the previous one, but because he poured everything he had into the task Eru Ilùvatar assigned to him, while the other Maiar have fallen, or are gone (the Balrog is a Maia too)

Predictable writing, no attachment to any of the characters, and no one dies from lightsaber wounds anymore. Thanks a lot Dave Filoni

After initially disliking her as an 8 year old boy, Ahsoka quickly grew to become my favorite character in Star Wars and she still holds a special spot in my heart. But even several years back, with Rebels essentially retconning her death, I became concerned about her continued presence in the franchise. I even began to argue that she should have died at Twilight of the Apprentice, but was somewhat hopeful that maybe, just maybe, she could find new footing. Now, after this show, I have fully accepted that yes, she should've died in Rebels. And it's just for the simple reason that if she had, they wouldn't have had this opportunity to ruin her. Sometimes it is better that your old heroes and stories are laid to rest, otherwise they'll be paraded out like circus freaks. Though, if you do lay them to rest, make sure to bury them deep and lose the map, elsewise these corporatists will dig up the corpse and puppet it them around.

I've disliked Filoni ever since he ruined Order 66 with the brain chip nonsense. Glad he's finally being seen for what he is.

Dude this is good stuff. The editing is hilarious.

that Plo Koon in space story sounds kind of wholesome tbh

Comparing new "SW" to real SW hurts my soul. They are related in name only.

And the follow-up is here! Dave always had this odd ego about him, so it's only nature taking it's course as things finally come crumbling down upon him!

I can accept him as the apprentice of lucas The failed apprentice of lucas

That beginning intro with the bundy documentary edit was perfect, ur Disney star wars vid made me subscribe and ik this will be another good deep dive

Felonis writing in Ashoka is some of the most pathetically contrived I've ever seen. At times stuff happened because the script said so. The most egregious example of this was when star destroyer turbolasers MISSED 3 space dogs at point blank range....because the script said so. Terrible.

dont forget they turned sabine into a villain because she was willing to sacrifice the entire galaxy to reunite with her quasi friend she sees as a brother out of nowhere? or when baylen talks about how ahsoka was the reasons sabine wasnt helping during the mandolore purge and yet sabine has little to no issues with ahsoka over the fact that if she was involved sabine could of likely saved her parents from dying lol... she should be furious with ahsoka and border line hates her for not letting her go. how did ahsoka keep sabine from going to help her famile from the purge of mandalore? and why did sabine let her stop her?!? lets also not forge the world between worlds is not only time travel with an extra step but possibly 2 things far worse than time travel! ... WBW (world between worlds) by filoni's on words is where ALL OF TIME and SPACE connects... with that quote in mind! all of time would include past, present... and future! which means! 1) either the future is linear and that means that there is no such thing as free will or choice in the star wars galaxy. everything was predetermined long before you were ever born! meaning lukes willingness to sacrifice himself in order to try and redeem his father is not a sacrifice, for he never had the ability to choose not to do it! anakins redemption is meaningless because he could only ever of gotten redeemed at this very moment! so no free will means there is no stakes or tension, its all fate! or 2) what yoda said and that the future is always in motion and never set in stone means that dave filoni's WBW introduces a star wars multiverse scenario into star wars! because the future is not linear it has countless branching time lines thanks to the wbw being where ALL OF TIME AND SPACE connects! and because the WBW is time travel with extra steps its now also multiverse traveling! and every portal in the WBW can lead to a different time line where another choice was made, or a time line where palpatine was a jedi knight during the purge.... and here is the thing, you can tell from my spelling and grammar that i am NOT a writer, only a humble vicitim of the american public school system... however, i can save ahsoka better than dave filoni can and i came up with this while on the toilet in a QT (a gas station) when we see in rebels where ahsoka stabs the ground of the temple top downward with both her sabers it starts to crack and separate... instead of creating time travel to save her, have it to when vader does a series of heavy downward attacks the force of his impacts as she struggles to block them causes the now weakened floor to collapse causing ahsoka to fall right before the ancient sith super weapon explodes. the fall leaves ahsoka badly wouneded yet alive and also trapped on malachor until she is able to scout, salvage and repair mauls ship or one of the inquisitors ships to get off the planet or repairs them enough to be able to send out a distress beacon for an eventual rescue by people in range. the above sets to do 2 things. 1) save ahsoka without breaking the star wars universe and 2) to explain why ahsoka was not around during the tail end of the galactic civil war in a lore friendly way. it is not perfect but it is far better than filoni option

Is it just me or does Hera's animation accurate costume not work at all in live action ?

After I heard you being optimistic about Ahsoka in the last video, I knew there was going to be a video about your disappointment.

George bringing Maul back was fing stupid. He VERY CLEARLY died and there are now backsies!

great video! I'm not sure which offended me more: The not dying from Light Sabre Or not giving Ray Stevenson ANY LINES in the Finale!

I love that you're using Eddie Izzard clips for this. ahahahahahah it's so fitting. lol

Dave Filoni's only writing hook is "what? character dead but actually ALIVE?"

epic sound bites. "Dis-a gunna be messy I no watchin'" really does sum my feeling about the new D-Cannon.

How could you, Filoni? You were the chosen one! As such you were supposed to save Star Wars, not officially fan fictionize it! Bring happiness to the fans, not drive them to despair! You were our hero, Filoni. We loved you for that. But if this is how you are going to do it, then may whatever deity you worship have mercy on your soul.

You know there is a certain irony to the opening monologue you start with at around the 2 minute mark comparing George Lucas to Dave Filoni. That irony being George went to his director friends first to ask them to do the next Star Wars films(the prequels), they all turned him down and pretty sure it was even Spielberg who said that George was the only one that could do it. That being said i love the prequels, Ahsoka frustrated me. The prequels i found the majority of the characters cool or interesting, even if you consider them poorly acted. That the rule of cool while pervasive wasnt overbearing. Ahsoka had too many bland characters. Characters that outright made stupid or out of character decisions. The most Ahsoka has to offer was an interesting premise, and overall failed to deliver.

JJ mortally wounded Star Wars. Rian eagerly twisted the knife. Filoni repeatedly proves that he can’t possibly save it

Less than 3.5k subs?! I’m stunned! Here’s one more, you deserve much more recognition 👍

Imagine if Disney actually kept George Lucas on board and got the writers from the EU to make more Live Action Star Wars movies… It would of been the Golden Age….but noooooooo. We got Ahsoka The “White” and Rey Palpatine…. shoot me

the EU thrawn and the 90s thrawn trilogy is just better

Right now it feels like the only thing that can save SW is total reboot, I mean basically erase every recognizable name and create new story, new heroes. KOTOR did it and did it well, same universe but no direct connections Another possibility is to take different era entirely or big time difference so at best there would be only mentions of old characters, simply to establish the connection. Again KOTOR and SWTOR, its something like 300 years between them, so we got some fan service things, but mostly connections are thin and again SWTOR got 8 pretty interesting stories for 8 classes. Most importantly - KOTOR and SWTOR shows that you dont need Vader, Luke, Kenobi, Yoda, Rebels, Resistance and so on to write a good SW story.

Omg you basically read my mind like thanks. Now, my brain can rest in peace, knowing I am not the only one thinking all of this...

Dave goes to a women’s rights rally when he needs inspiration , so brave!

How are channels like yours so well done and yet have so little viewership compared to what they should have? Like... Seriously. It makes me never want to consider KZfaq content if this is the bar.

That intro was on point! Lol good stuff

I did have a feeling when Favreau brought Mandalorian and the beginning of the Mandowerse to Iger and got it greenlit. Before Dave was involved, Jon had a plan to give fans Star Wars as we knew it. But also he said that fans didn't get to see the OT heroes together and as we knew them, then also hinting on that we deserved that. It felt like he had a plan with series and movies for the era up until TFA. And the feeling of getting Luke Han and Leia together again got stronger after the Mando s2 final episode. We also know that after that Kathleen got back, she fired Gina and also promoted Dave to Excecutive Creative Manager right in time for BoBF. Since then Dave have been making Creative decisions in all projects and Favreau have had less to say. I actually think this Thrawn Heir to the Empire movie might have been what Jon planned for, but Dave and Kathleen who had already hijacked Jon's plans. Made it about Daves characters instead, Kathleen hates Luke and Dave is more or less sitting in her lap.

My biggest complaint about Filoni is that he seems to really dislike the Jedi. Like the Jedi are dumb and arrogant only my OC is perfect and can do no wrong. It seems like Ashoka (haven't finished the show yet) doesn't care that they're gone, she only cares that Anakin is.

Ezra considering Sabine to be like a sister to him was about the only thing the show actually got right. Yeah, he has a crush on her when he moves into the Ghost, but their relationship grows far past their surface-level introduction, especially once Sabine finds the Darksaber.

Filoni sounds like Kennedy trying to use Lucas name as validation while ignoring his ideas for canon

I'm glad people can say Filoni isn't good. He is the worst kind of fan. Good material, copies it and ignores what made it good, but expects you to love it cause its a nod to the Legends or uh hum, what made Star Wars good.

As much as I really like your video and how you point out all the flaws Filonis writting has and also Georges, this entire comment section is FUELED with toxic comments. I really enjoy a good discussion but man...many of the comments here coming from both sides are tiresome. Which is sad because you put so much work into this video!

Subscribed. This was well done. Keep it up

I have to say seeing the clips of the Lego stop animation Eddie Izard stand up bits unlocked so many memories from early KZfaq. I’m so glad to know I was not the only one who had seen those gems❤

Dave did Thrawn so dirty. If this had been written by Zahn it would have been so much better even if Thrawn technically needed to be defeated in the show.

Ah yes. Dave Feloni. Dave 30-silver-coins Filoni.

Quite the cheeky end there.. lol

Really solid critique! Think I found a new channel to like. And if I wasn't already sold, you ended it in a way that makes you a man after my own heart! The parts you liked are the literal reason I stuck through the whole show. Cheers, and long live the EU canon in my head and heart.

"Getting cut in half is pretty definitive." Unlike being disintegrated in a Death-Star explosion.