I think you mean understeering then suddenly snap oversteering in laughter lol

@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 i genuinely believed that a rodeo is more stable and predictable than that car lol

Still way better than the 2020 Ferrari

Yeah

​2014 was worse @@sanfordcurtis8242

Never listened to that. Probably to avoid copying what they’ve said. 🤣

Wasn't the power steering that failed?

Yeah. Prost was sacked cause he directly told the management "I told you guys all year how to fix the car but you idiots wouldn't listen to me"

@@stinkyroadhog1347 either way he was sacked for badmouthing the team.

@@stinkyroadhog1347 Yes Alain, see rule one.

In 70s they won the championships with V12, although it had 180 deg. span.

​@@parrotantics2046That would be a Flat 12, not a V12.

"a "gap""

​@@Dat-Mudkip that 180° v12 did find it's way under the hood of the testarossa though

@@parrotantics2046 Flat-12, V12 close enough! The 1989 regulations would probably have had to been at least 4.0L, for V12 to be optimal. I guess 3.0L in 1995 was the nail in the coffin for the V12. Though Toyota were planning a V12 for 2000 which was banned, but since V8s were mandated (sadly, though at the time the original 20,000rpm V8s still sounded pretty great) for 2006 it would have been a moot point anyway.

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most sane ferrari fan:

Wow spicy!!! Imagine the scenes at Marenello if that happened!

220 was the figure I heard. Imagine the engine penalties the F92A would have under today's rules.

Nice! Too many rules now?

@@alexpeak16 Thankfully we never had this days rules in the 90s. That’s why we remember the 90s Formula One as the best ever golden age, and todays cars and boy racers will never be remembered

Given how poor the car was overall- that Alesi dragged any results from it was a miracle in itself! It looked brilliant but the engine was obviously a boat anchor. They ended up running reduced rpm to try & stop them grenading themselves. The rot really started in 91 however- almost like the championship challenge of 1990 was at the expense of development for 91. The 91 engine was already quickly outclassed by the new Honda V12 & Renault V10- so the fact the 91 engine put in the F92 was an immediate improvement told it’s own story👀 The gaffer was Cesare Fiorio btw not Florio!

To me it was the previous generation of cars beginning with the Ferrari 639/640, that were the best looking Ferrari F1 cars.

That car introduced the aerodynamic concepts that are still used today.

@@alexjenner1108 Is it because Ferrari lost technical direction with John Barnard -- the designer of the 639 & 640 -- having gone to Benetton, or would Ferrari have gone astray anyway? Obviously Barnard returned to "fix" the car for '95 and designed the '96 car with the V10 (for which Barnard takes credit for laying foundations for the success up to 2005, which may or may not be accurate!).

I don't see going there to be the great thing it's set out to be. It's wrecked more careers than it's made, and even drivers who've succeeded there have usually been glad to leave. Just because it's "historical" doesn't mean it's the best. Would you go on a Hindenburg replica just because Zeppelin made it to the same specs? It had numerous successful trips after all... (I was going to admit that's a tad extreme, but I'm old enough to remember the '70s.)

That would be an interesting video. Another one would be how Carlos Reutemann came close to winning the Driver's Championship in 1981 being beaten by Nelson Piquet by just 1 point, almost becoming the 2nd Argentine F1 champion after Fangio.

This. It was a bizarre year!

I was so happy the rFactor model had it. Usually these things skip some of those bits.

It’s one of those things where it has about 997 different variations.

Makes you wonder what would have happened if the great walkout had gone the other way.

Steve Nichols is THE master of taking credit for other’s success while blaming others for his own incompetence.

Sadly, the lack of communication between departments portion sounds way too much Like Williams.

@@michaelfotta5781I think we can all agree that a lot of historic F1 individuals are/were? Very quick to attach themselves to successful ideas/ periods but not so much if things went wrong.

That’s good ol’ Italian attention to detail for you 😂

Ferrari may have a phobia about seals in the engine. Example: In Mark Donohue's Book: "The Unfair Advantage," he wrote about the trials and tribulations with the Ferrari 512M that was in FIA endurance racing. With the 5 liter V12 on the dyno, it was noted the exhaust gas spitting out from an engine head. The reason why? That Ferrari engine didn't have a head gasket. According to the Ferrari reps, the engine was engineered and machined to tolerances where a head gasket was not needed; just torque the head to the specs and everything would be fine. Donohue and Roger Penske thought such an approach to engine building was peculiar. That V12 engine was down on power due to the exhaust gas leak that could not be resolved.

Nah man it was all Schumacher wasn’t it ?

xD

That's an exaggeration if I have ever read one. John Barnard's claim to fame were the MP4/1 and MP4/2. After the latter car, which won 2 constructor and 3 driver championships (!!), he never designed another championship winning car. He lead the design effort on the iconic Ferrari 640 and the Benetton B191. And while both won races, neither one really was seriously in the running for the championship. None of his Ferrari designs - the F93, the very sexy 412T/412T2 or his last Ferrari the quirky-looking F310, which actually brought back the proud-sitting sidepods of the F92A - were all that competitive in retrospect. In short, by the early 90's, Barnard was a legend in name only while the likes of Ross Brawn and Adrian Newey were leading the design teams that were ruling F1.

Only a car with a quarter of the cylinders to win the championship in 1994 🤣

And then V12s were banned in 1996 lmao

@@PG-20 they weren’t. They were banned a bit later when Toyota was about to enter, it’s that Ferrari finally got with the programme that they were shit. 🤣

@@AidanMillward Lmfao, took them a while to get the hint

@@PG-20 it's funny you say that since a number of teams in 1994 through to 1997 were not running V10s. Most teams were still running V8s - teams in 1994 were Benetton, Footwork, Larrouse, Minardi and Simtek all running Ford V8s and in 1995 were Pacific, Larrouse, Forti, Minardi and Sauber using various Ford V8s and Footwork using a Hart V8. Footwork stuck with their Hart V8 in 1996, and Forti and Minardi continued with Ford V8s. In 1997, Minardi switched to Hart V8s and Tyrrell took the Ford V8. By 1998 only, the whole grid were using V10s.

Went for a proper Tony Hawk style rail grind with that

*looks at the 312T5*

No I’m not. Because that car finished all but three races.

I said in a comment above: Italian-grade politics has always prevented this team from being the truly dominant force in F1 that they should be, and I’m afraid that will never change.

It's not like the French national Renault/Alpine (or the other French national teams in the past like Matra and Ligier/Prost) have been significantly more competitive. Operating with board politics and cycles of firing and hiring against garagistes who only care about winning at any cost and building the fastest car while (mostly) providing stable employment is difficult. 🙂

I mean, at least they didn’t do a massive pit fire like Benetton and Jordan in 94 and 95 💁🏼‍♂️

90's Mclaren-Honda used to experience a lot of gearbox failures. Lack of input shaft torque quite often... Coincidentally commonly also occuring at the same time as oil leaks.

To be fair to Ferrari - and yourself - that was the case for every single car at that time!

There’s been some jokes about the only way for SF to win is to not have Italians on the team.

I was never a Schumacher fan but one thing I have to give him credit for is he sought out and sweet talked the most *dedicated* people at their job to work with him moving to Ferrari without a flying fuck where they're from which was novel at the time (up to that point, British teams just had British staff, Italian teams just had Italian staff, French teams just had French staff etc). Japanese engine designer, French team principle, Indian physio, British race strategist, a lot more I can't remember from the top of my head but it was a Noah's Ark of nationalities, and you see almost entirely the same faces at the Ferrari garage between 96-06. He unintentionally symbolises a lot of positive things when you consider he first started making impressions right as the oppressive past of the Berlin wall was torn down as a German, built a team around him without prejudice, and never once slagged off his team to the press if the car was slow or broke down, and simply would say the car needs some work and he's confident his team would get it done; he never separated himself from the team at all. His machiavellian traits aside, there's a lot we can learn from the Michael, the way he worked with people and the results it brought. He didn't simply just have the best car sorted for him, he could've easily sat at Benetton with Tom Walkinshaw and Briatore for years and won 10 titles, as he could've also easily jumped ship to Williams, McLaren, and Renault whenever they had the best car like a certain Brazilian would've done, but he was truly one with the Ferrari team, dirty tactics or not.

Todt, Brawn and Schumacher were gaining too much influence so the Ferrari board (rightly?) got rid of them! That'll show them. 🙂

Todt was the brainchild.

RFactor moment

Think the newer fans are used to the Schumacher years.

And then they blew up.

I have no idea what that is.

And don’t forget about there “PIT-STOP’S”!!!!

You mean Badoer? A driver who only got 2 races in a Ferrari that he never drove up until that point because of testing restrictions during 2009? Also highly credited by the Michael Schumacher for all the miles of testing that Badoer did during Michael’s 5 championships with the Scuderia?

​@@ic3manAnd a good fairly decent driver at Minardi beforehand.

@@nehylen5738 would’ve gotten P2 at the 1999 European GP had his engine not died

@@ic3man P4, but still....

@@OsellaSquadraCorse I’m pretty sure he would’ve been in front of Trulli and Barrichello but knowing Minardi’s pace, more than likely would’ve been P4.

It was actually worse: in 1980 they were P10!

*1973 has entered the chat*

@@OsellaSquadraCorse That was a bad season for sure, but they did finish 6th. I'm pretty sure their 10th in 1980 is their worst WCC finish.

@@dominicbarden4436 Sure, but that's a stat - not reflective of the disarray and performances of the cars in-season (remember that in '73 Ferrari didn't even do the full season owing to how bad the cars were...!) We can't judge how bad the cars were solely on the points positions, given the different numbers of races, entries and so on, but Ferrari were designing cars so bad they didn't even go to races - that's bad!

Slightly. In 93 it went back down, 94 back up and then 95 and part of 96 back down. After the 96 Canadian GP they got with the times.

@@AidanMillward lmfao that all most deserves a video it's self 😂 🤣

And now Manchester United, after mocking Liverpool for so long

In 1980 they were racing the last of the 312T series and were struggling in the ground effects era with a flat-12 engine. Bad results, but quite a different scenario to the F92A which was meant to be a new car replacing the 640-643.

I see your T5 and raise you the B3....

@@OsellaSquadraCorse At least once heavily revised for '74, the B3 actually proved much better than the original project. The T5 was a dead-end and nothing more.

He was one of the three TPs in 1991 but couldn’t find much more on tbat.

@@AidanMillward great series tho :-) not far from Moreno lol!

@@philllawrence1580 the video about the Spanish football ref isn’t too far away!

@@AidanMillward ha ha can't wait 😆

Not sure. I guess in the early 2000s they could get away with it given they were already so good.

It wasn't just Ferrari - many teams did that when rules were stable; because the season used to start with 'flyaways' to South Africa and Argentina or Brazil (and later Australia) the cars had to be freighted out; which limits your testing mileage (even though theoretically unlimited). Nowadays becuse of the restrictions, there's no disadvantage - tests are fixed, freight follows the end of testing; but you would lose not just the freight out time, but those early races (often with limited spares - which we've seen also be a problem in recent years) and the return freight time. Now, each team paid for their own or joint freight, so timing was just however much you wanted to pay Pan-Am to get your cars out & back (no FOM, no FOM freighting before the 90's) but it's still a loss. Many teams would therefore start with a known quantity; a car they know (which helps setup on a circuit it often hadn't raced on before!) with parts, spares, known repair/service for mechanics PLUS the new car can be running around testing while the 'old' car is out getting some points at the start of the year. If you look at McLaren, Honda used the V10 while testing the V12, Ferrari traditionally also, Williams too (and considered using the FW15D test-bed for 1994 as the FW16 was unstable); along with Tyrrell, Footwork, Lotus, Leyton House, it wasn't uncommon at all. Benetton deliberately changed their strategy and used the B194 from the start, where traditionally they always took the previous car to start the year, even with rule changes. 1994 they cut design time short and started testing in early March to be ahead of the game under the new rules. Major rule changes like 1989, 1994, 1998 and so on tended to cause a need to have new cars ready on day 1; but for minor changes like 1993, 1995, 2001, upgraded cars were common (not to mention teams which just couldn't afford to build new cars over winter with no money coming in - and had to wait for sponsor money to even build the new cars!). Ferrari in the 2000's took their older cars because they were so good, they could almost guarantee podium finishes with them - versus for example 1996 where in Schumacher's case, the brand new engine in the brand new car blew up on the formation lap in Melbourne...

@@OsellaSquadraCorse Thx man

It’s the 92 Dallara livery on the Fondmetal because… dunno, it’s something to ask the museum.