An Introduction to Minecraft Storage Tech

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cubicmetre

cubicmetre

3 жыл бұрын

In this video I try to explain the basics of storage tech and illustrate why overthinking a storage system can be quite dangerous. In the second half of the video I showcase parallel entity sorting and how it can easily improve existing designs.
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@d0n0x
@d0n0x 2 жыл бұрын
"It can be hard for beginners to understand, so I'll start easy" he said. Also him 3 mins later: literal rocket science
@jonatasamaral7463
@jonatasamaral7463 Жыл бұрын
in 2 mins, I was like " yeah that's neat, I can understand", in 3 mins, well I give up.
@rareredcobra1248
@rareredcobra1248 2 жыл бұрын
Oh great, they've basically started multi-threading their item sorting
@rhueoflandorin
@rhueoflandorin 3 жыл бұрын
The absolute best storage system for those who don't have Applied Energistics: 1) Input Chest -> "Type detection" : detects empty shulker boxes, full and partially full shulker boxes, stackable items, and unstackable items and directs to next stage appropriately 2a) empty Shulkers get taken to empty-shulker storage 2b) non-empty shulkers get sent to shulker splitter 2c) stackable items get sent to variable shulker loader (loads only single item type in each shulker) but can be re-assigned once there is no shulker being loaded. 2d) unstackables get sent to anothe rround of item-type detection using armor stands, brewery stations, etc, than placed into dedicated storage based on type. - 3) variable parallel sorting and shulker loader/combiner: partially filled shulkers get combined into single-item-type shulker and then sent on to main storage...timer auto-breaks and resets variable filter after a time, freeing up slice to handle more shulker-combining. 4) Main storage accepts ONLY shulker boxes containing a single item type. they do NOT have to be completely full. 4a) not-full shulkers get placed above chest/bulk storage areas and are accessible as they continue to be filled by incoming not-full shulkers 4b) Full shulkers get sent directly into the bulk storage section 4c) A single shulker gets placed for shulker-display below main chests. 5) Entire main storage is level-detected with reference item being sent to "store inventory queue chest"--- 5a) Dropping a reference item into selection system sends that item type out to bulk storage, locates the slice that has that item filter and unlocks a hopper at the bottom of the storage cell releasing 9 shulkers from that slice--which are then delivered to the front using a chest-minecart delivery system (explained below) 5b) -- Requested shulkers instead get dropped into storage minecarts which have banners used to program their route and pickup/dropoff orders. This minecart system can effectively request any items stored in the main storage system by using clever filters and redstone-based cart routing. 5c) -- Outposts, including farms and industrial production level areas can Thus easily request things from the main storage such as empty shulker boxes (for local shulker loading on-stie) ... or mining areas to request wood and coal to craft more torches or iron blocks needed to place down another beacon.. The minecarts can also return from these outposts, mob farms, etc loaded with mob loot, delivering to bulk storage themselves, and then return with empty shulker boxes OR: if the local main storage is FULL, a unique item that tells the farm to TOGGLE it's enabled state, either on or off. Did i miss anything?
@martinapaloo6514
@martinapaloo6514 2 жыл бұрын
You have way to much free time
@m-yday
@m-yday 2 жыл бұрын
my goodness, this sounds amazing, and like a fun challenge to puzzle through though I don't think it'd be practical to make a full 5-stage storage system as you've described here (for most people at least!) but I love the theory-crafting you've done!
@AkivaB
@AkivaB 2 жыл бұрын
But RS is also good
@dontletmememandie6506
@dontletmememandie6506 3 жыл бұрын
Building a design you dont understand is how i learned redstone. 15min tutorials and an hour to find a solution. But now that i understand each component, id say im happy i had trouble with machines. Especially when i was doing java tutorials on PS4 lmao
@TomMcKeesick
@TomMcKeesick 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god dude - java tutorials on PS4! It was crazy encountering all the subtle differences and trying to get stuff to work with almost no information available in-game
@dontletmememandie6506
@dontletmememandie6506 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMcKeesick yeah exactly. I used to be on consoles: xbox360 and then PS4 and they work almost exactly as java but not 100%
@averagejojoenjoyer5989
@averagejojoenjoyer5989 2 жыл бұрын
u say you understand every component? well understand the comparator🤣
@dontletmememandie6506
@dontletmememandie6506 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejojoenjoyer5989 at this point, comparators memes are like the annoying mobile game ads of « 99% of people cant beat level 5 »
@stikyscommands6381
@stikyscommands6381 2 жыл бұрын
i must say, i have never seen anyone use an enchanted wooden sword until now
@magnusanderson6681
@magnusanderson6681 2 жыл бұрын
Someone hasn't played Herobrine's Mansion
@asdfoifhvjbkaos
@asdfoifhvjbkaos 2 жыл бұрын
@@magnusanderson6681 W reference
@user-sr5pi1tn5e
@user-sr5pi1tn5e 10 ай бұрын
Playing Elden Ring, exactly.
@pg5200
@pg5200 3 жыл бұрын
I think I know a reason why you still get overflowing items. The logic of unassigning slices at about 18:40 seems to allow assigning several slices to a single item type. If a slice gets unassigned between assigned slices, it's possible that an item could come to this unassigned slice while still having a slice assigned to it further away. Resulting in doubling the sending rate of this particular item to the storage filters. What should be done, would be this : 1. when a new item comes in that doesn't have a slice assigned to it already 2. and all slices are assigned then detect the first unused slice, unassign it (and only this one), send the item back to the assigning input and process it again. :)
@stagetired
@stagetired 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes music is a little too loud for me but everything else is superb.
@Jere2706
@Jere2706 3 жыл бұрын
4:13 Movable dispenser?
@fadedrunner
@fadedrunner 10 ай бұрын
I loved how I came here, and went. Oh look it's an old cubic metre video because his mic sounds different, this is so cool I can't believe I am in the past. Then mid video he becomes modern cubic metre.
@siramielthefirst7536
@siramielthefirst7536 2 жыл бұрын
11:23 I have a question for this part here. What would you recommend for someone who has a decent understanding of how the redstone mechanics work, but not as advanced as say you or the other advanced technical server members
@johnirby8847
@johnirby8847 7 ай бұрын
Ice, honey, water stream is tried and true. Simple and a reflush can easily fix missed items. No need to get over complicated!
@infra8466
@infra8466 3 жыл бұрын
Now I really desire to bring down my old storage
@AshenElk
@AshenElk 2 жыл бұрын
You're doing a good service, intorducing the world to Aussie vernacular like "hectic" and "drongo".
@killianobrien2007
@killianobrien2007 2 жыл бұрын
Hectic is an Australian word?
@AshenElk
@AshenElk 2 жыл бұрын
@@killianobrien2007 No, bit I think the way we sometimes use it is.
@AdamSchadow
@AdamSchadow 3 жыл бұрын
This video is very good example of how to overthink a storage. You are using movable tile entities and yet u bother with these complex machines that are designed to reduce lag while u can just replace hoppers with pistons and droppers and save many times more mspt.
@gustje0493
@gustje0493 3 жыл бұрын
How you mean replace hoppers with pistons and droppers?
@AdamSchadow
@AdamSchadow 3 жыл бұрын
@@gustje0493 you can make hopperless sorters with movable droppers
@LatteLobster
@LatteLobster 3 жыл бұрын
ok time to go make storage for my storage
@deepkhamaru
@deepkhamaru 2 жыл бұрын
Rapscallion's multi item sorte has been working like a charm, it's at least normal survival player tested! Like me. Just add a chunk loader. It's annoying to stay there while sorting.
@TimmyBlumberg
@TimmyBlumberg 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@raddad9041
@raddad9041 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work.
@nick8397
@nick8397 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is awesome
@skaryzgik
@skaryzgik 2 жыл бұрын
"There is a simple solution for this:" ...*splat* XD
@sigmaprime4307
@sigmaprime4307 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the rabbit hole
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 2 жыл бұрын
It goes must deeper than this, not quite sure where it ends. Maybe with an ME storage in vanilla minecraft?
@justluke0001
@justluke0001 3 жыл бұрын
I love the wooden sword
@CommandLeo
@CommandLeo 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@CommandLeo
@CommandLeo 3 жыл бұрын
Btw you forgot to link Data's box splitter in the description
@ruifernandes6808
@ruifernandes6808 Жыл бұрын
At amount minute 3 you show your storage slice. I really like the design and the accessibility for partial and full shulker boxes. I'm relatively new to redstone and storage tech so please cut me some slack but I'm not sure I understand where the empty shulker boxes are coming from.
@peterjwest3
@peterjwest3 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you have a link for that shulker splitter design?
@yanikstamer840
@yanikstamer840 3 жыл бұрын
If you have the carpet mod stackable shucker enabled. How do you fix the issue with the sorting shulkerboxes not getting split correctly? Is there any fix around. Schematic of the complete storage would be amazing. @m3
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
Uhh, pretty much don't use the carpet rule that makes shulker boxes into a 64 stackable because pretty much no storage tech will work in that case. You need the rule that only makes the boxes stack if you throw them on the floor as an entity but preserves their unstackable behaviour.
@HiImKyle
@HiImKyle Жыл бұрын
I love KZfaq for tutorials but there really needs to be a central website to have all of these techs, tagged for versions etc I thought about making one but it's just effort for something people might not even use
@dragondaniel0574
@dragondaniel0574 7 ай бұрын
Won't you be use the new Pot Storage feature for the splitter in 1.21?
@rev_dude
@rev_dude 2 жыл бұрын
That moment your "storage tech" is usually a wall of chests with item frames
@raddad9041
@raddad9041 3 жыл бұрын
How does this handle edge cases, for instance a shulker loaded with an unstackable item in the first slot? In my testing of the WDL, it seems it is possible to gum up the system, but not really break it(shulker loaded with a sword in first slot, a stack of 16 pearls in second, and an additional unstackable). variable parallel sorting is a fantastic way of handling the throughput it seems.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
The variable parallel sorting only works if you first use a box splitter which removes unstackables, the design of the splitter has been refined over use in survival and so we are confident it can handle all edge cases.
@hahawadda
@hahawadda 2 жыл бұрын
4:50 That's not a storage system. 5:09 That's a storage system.
@jaehaerys9194
@jaehaerys9194 2 жыл бұрын
Me the entire video: what? huh? what is this? why?
@dABiGfATLol
@dABiGfATLol Жыл бұрын
at 4:10, how are you moving a dispenser to break the hopper? i thought you cant move stuff with guis using pistons and slime etc
@firesammyyy2
@firesammyyy2 Жыл бұрын
Carpet mod
@lilydome
@lilydome Жыл бұрын
4:11 is there some kind of mod used to move that dropper or dispenser cuz last time i checked droppers and dispensers are both immovable cuz they are containers
@nuvaboy
@nuvaboy Жыл бұрын
The Carpet Mod enables movable tile entities, if I recall correctly
@corte_s
@corte_s 3 жыл бұрын
vsauce for storage
@konnorplaysgames4910
@konnorplaysgames4910 Жыл бұрын
Does this work on bedrock cause im trying to make a storage system with a shulker unloader and shulker loader
@AnotherRandomCreator
@AnotherRandomCreator 2 жыл бұрын
i mean unless you have giant farm or the like hermitcraft having a ton of stuff a normal item sorter should do the job also just loop the ice lines to avoid it clogging
@KassaiBenedek
@KassaiBenedek 2 жыл бұрын
Despawn time lol
@ExodiumTM
@ExodiumTM Жыл бұрын
@@KassaiBenedek Use a dolphin
@KassaiBenedek
@KassaiBenedek 2 жыл бұрын
Cubicmetre how can I make so that after the items go throught the second sorter they will stay in shulkerboxes?
@gustje0493
@gustje0493 3 жыл бұрын
I thing found a bug in the machine that brings the same objects together(parallel deloading machine). If you enter a new item immediately after a channel is free, the hopper filter is filled with too many placeholder items and the system goes dead.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the parallel entity sorter is more of a proof of concept, it doesn't stand up very well to apocalyptic testing. I believe my most recent innovations make the parallel entity sorter mostly obsolete anyway.
@joeyattack99
@joeyattack99 2 жыл бұрын
What's the first world he's in with the cool 4x4 door
@Ricey1
@Ricey1 3 жыл бұрын
13:25 \Why did u use scaffolding to extend the water streams instead of trapdoors or slabs???
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
The only requirement is for the object to allow items to pass through it but prevent the water from flowing backwards. Scaffolding, slabs and trapdoors all achieve this.
@ovencake523
@ovencake523 2 жыл бұрын
4:10 was that a piston moving a dispenser?
@madsrishoj
@madsrishoj 3 жыл бұрын
Does this work with even with the recent chances to how redstone works? I’m not sure if you mentioned it. I didn’t catch it if you did.
@ahraman3285
@ahraman3285 3 жыл бұрын
There were target blocks around (ex. 8:30), so I'm saying yes.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
All of these designs were made in 1.16, in fact ilmango's patreon server is 1.16.4
@madsrishoj
@madsrishoj 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre Thanks a lot. Great video by the way
@takeoverlakee6055
@takeoverlakee6055 3 жыл бұрын
thank u so much bro i want to make my own but i really loved the final result of the system that u show us, can we get a litematic or a world download (i know if u give us a litematic we are not going to have the content in the hoppers but i want to learn how that system works to make one in my world ) if u could give us that i will love u so much man
@takeoverlakee6055
@takeoverlakee6055 3 жыл бұрын
plz
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
There is a wdl to my storage tech world where the actual parallel entity sorter is. You can also check out my "How to Kill a Chest Monster" video for a new and improved main storage concept with a wdl.
@takeoverlakee6055
@takeoverlakee6055 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre yes i already downloaded thanks for this awesome content
@This-is-Michael
@This-is-Michael 2 жыл бұрын
How do u build the shulker box unloader at 1:30
@arielbaruck51
@arielbaruck51 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@JCthe1st
@JCthe1st 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a tier 3 firework auto dropper crafter
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
we have one hooked up to a sugar cane farm on ilmango's patreon server
@JCthe1st
@JCthe1st 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know any way other than joining the server that I could see that circuit
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
@@JCthe1st Ask me politely for the litematic through discord.
@madeintwfactory
@madeintwfactory 3 жыл бұрын
how able to copy the shulkerbox or chest with items inside to hand in creative mode?
@raddad9041
@raddad9041 3 жыл бұрын
hold ctrl down and then pick the item as per normal.
@madeintwfactory
@madeintwfactory 3 жыл бұрын
@@raddad9041 thank you!!
@thetorchlight1985
@thetorchlight1985 2 жыл бұрын
13:38 ah yes, manually sorting my items so they can be sorted
@gianpaolocrippa7723
@gianpaolocrippa7723 3 жыл бұрын
Can i get the schematic of the storage system that you show on the video?
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
The storage system was built on a server so if I go and take a schematic then it won't be able to save inventory contents. It took me about 5 hours to setup all of the item filters and so I would rather not subject you to that.
@julianpflugmann2485
@julianpflugmann2485 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre is there any chance that I can ask for your technical assistance? I am building your „epic storage system“ to beat my chest monster, but it is just too complicated. I have seen full item sorters, but it isn’t the same thing. Also one question: how big should my perimeter be? Does it affect the sorter?
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianpflugmann2485 This parallel entity sorter is kinda bad. I will be releasing a new one soon that is much simpler and more reliable.
@thomaslucas6961
@thomaslucas6961 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to join this server?
@Crank5G
@Crank5G Жыл бұрын
More videos like this but for even bottier bots like me please!!
@vihaanravishankar3989
@vihaanravishankar3989 2 жыл бұрын
the second design shown uses MBE right?
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 2 жыл бұрын
Check out how to kill a chest monster for a non MBE variant.
@hackcraft_
@hackcraft_ 3 жыл бұрын
movable block entity?
@vincentkrawiec8211
@vincentkrawiec8211 Жыл бұрын
i still dont get why u would need a full shulkerbox display if u already have the accessible shulkerbox loader
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre Жыл бұрын
The accessible loader only gives access to items as they are sorted, when that runs out you either need to wait for more of that item to be sorted or simply have another box display for the already filled boxes.
@MrEDog
@MrEDog 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy
@randomhardcoreplayer2096
@randomhardcoreplayer2096 2 жыл бұрын
How do you sort a non stackable?
@invalidstring3447
@invalidstring3447 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell if an item is not stackable by putting it in a hopper and measuring signal strength. An unstackable item will count as 1 stack and not as 1 item worth of signal strength. Telling unstackable items appart is much more difficult and only possible in certain cases. For example you can tell shulker boxes appart from other unstackables by trying to put all items in a shulkerbox and filtering out the ones that don't go in.
@stagetired
@stagetired 3 жыл бұрын
So what's the reason for a box to be left behind ?
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
I was having to tick warp at over 2K TPS for about 20 minutes at a time (Which is about 33 hours in actual time) in order to observe the phenomenon once. So I was never able to observe the direct cause of the issue. But it happened consistently every time I tick warped.
@stagetired
@stagetired 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre what a shame. Would be cool to have something like a replay mod for this.
@adamrezabek9469
@adamrezabek9469 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre carpet extreme behavior may hape
@gustje0493
@gustje0493 3 жыл бұрын
What is about the Binary Storage system?
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
I did want to cover binary storage systems however I simply ran out of time for this video. I could go on for another 20 minutes about that topic.
@adamrezabek9469
@adamrezabek9469 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre yes!
@gustje0493
@gustje0493 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre I woude enjoed it.
@filoulam6616
@filoulam6616 2 жыл бұрын
the music is saturating so much at 6:00
@volbla
@volbla 2 жыл бұрын
10:15 Sponsored by Bo Burnham.
@adamrezabek9469
@adamrezabek9469 3 жыл бұрын
13:50 22-wide tileable
@KassaiBenedek
@KassaiBenedek 2 жыл бұрын
20 2wide tileable
@man7909
@man7909 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one to see that he has a wooden sword
@senshi4458
@senshi4458 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@antixiety
@antixiety 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf are these comments
@zawarudo1818
@zawarudo1818 Жыл бұрын
3:42
@erumaaro6060
@erumaaro6060 3 жыл бұрын
#underrated personally, i've been playing around with pallapalla's item to binary decoder. (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odmWdaiYsbnUcWQ.html) i added an automatic "programmer", meaning a new code will be assigned to an item type if it has not yet been programmed into the decoder. and I am currently working on pipelineing both the decoder and programmer. the parallel entity sorting of seperated item types is definitely faster, but it could have other applications.
@gustje0493
@gustje0493 3 жыл бұрын
sadly this thing is outdatet
@rev_dude
@rev_dude 2 жыл бұрын
20 minutes of redstone that is super impressive but completely overkill for 99% of players
@B.G.B.
@B.G.B. 3 жыл бұрын
I dont understand the point of haveing the temporary shulker sorters when you could just sort the shulkers directly to where they need to go.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
These are my thoughts exactly developing my latest series of storage tech which completely bypass the need for a splitter and sorts mixed boxes directly. Becuase this gives you effectively twice the sorting speed as boxes spend half the time being unloaded by hoppers.
@B.G.B.
@B.G.B. 3 жыл бұрын
@@cubicmetre yeah ive been thinking about sorting speed efficiency a lot lately. Haveing a system where you pre split boxes scales well with very very high amounts of items where as doing something like take the first item out of a box find where it needs to go unload all of that item then send it back would be good for lower amounts of items but would become more and more varied in sorting times as the item count whent up as boxes back up at praticular slices that have large amounts of items and thus cant be sorting out other items that might be in the box.
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 3 жыл бұрын
@@B.G.B. The sorter in my "How to Kill a Chest Monster" video was tested a few times and I found that dirt specifically backlogged a lot of boxes with various item types. However despite this being the case the entire sorting operation took only 2.6h when unloading the dirt alone would have taken 2.2h. This indicates that backlogging does not significantly impact sorting speeds.
@lilydome
@lilydome 2 жыл бұрын
solution to every single storage tech problem: just sort manually try to name one thing hard about this
@cubicmetre
@cubicmetre 2 жыл бұрын
Our quarries on wavetech have collected about 1.6 million items which are currently waiting to be sorted in mixed boxes. The encoded MIS can sort them in 20 hours, that is the time to beat, good luck.
@dakotamike4077
@dakotamike4077 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️
@onscreenproton
@onscreenproton 3 жыл бұрын
I’m single 😥😥😥😥😥
@charbuckspup1360
@charbuckspup1360 3 жыл бұрын
Sir this is a Wendy’s
@moderin294
@moderin294 3 жыл бұрын
@@charbuckspup1360 lmao
@stevejohncockram
@stevejohncockram 3 жыл бұрын
first
@GravitySnip
@GravitySnip 2 жыл бұрын
Video would be great whitout the annoying and distracting music in the backround
@arabellasummer113
@arabellasummer113 3 жыл бұрын
I'm single 😥😥😥😥😥
@crafter4200
@crafter4200 3 жыл бұрын
tf do you come to a item sorting vid for dat?
@lollopollqo2240
@lollopollqo2240 3 жыл бұрын
@@crafter4200 its a bot
@crafter4200
@crafter4200 3 жыл бұрын
@@lollopollqo2240 I didn't see the other similar comment before but now I agree.
@adamrezabek9469
@adamrezabek9469 3 жыл бұрын
I'm double
@boredglitch6950
@boredglitch6950 3 жыл бұрын
i'm triple
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