An Obstacle in Our Path Combined (Lower Pitched Version)

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Rex_Yaldabaoth

Rex_Yaldabaoth

4 жыл бұрын

More fooling around in audacity, since the DE version of this song is a semitone higher than the original, i've made 2 versions, one pitched up, the other pitched down.

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@VeddyGud
@VeddyGud 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this is amazing. I'll never understand why they felt the need to raise the pitch of the rearrangement. This sounds so much better.
@roiitzkovich4545
@roiitzkovich4545 3 жыл бұрын
Neither did I. The higher notes weren't as dramatic. The rest of the re-arranged OST was perfect, but that one change made me pick the OG OST when playing the game first time.
@Fusorf
@Fusorf 3 жыл бұрын
I'ts a total guess on my part but, for having played this song on guitar, both the original and the remastered version, the remastered one is much easyer to play because the rised pitch lands perfectly on the guitar's standard E tuning. So seeing the addition of real guitars in the remastered, that may explain why. totally not sure though
@bkebradley
@bkebradley 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fusorf Basically this, so the guitars could be in E instead of Eb. This is pure speculation, but they may have only had a guitar with a Floyd Rose/similar locking trem system in standard tuning on hand at the studio when laying down the guitar track for the new version, which would logically be done before the strings, and changing tuning on a Floyd Rose-equipped guitar is a fucking NIGHTMARE and takes forever. In that situation, it may have been more practical to just say fuck it and play in standard tuning rather than book another day with the guitarist and have him change tuning on that guitar or find someone else with a Floyd Rose guitar in Eb (which is not a super common tuning for Floyd Rose players) before the next session.
@ChrisStoneinator
@ChrisStoneinator 3 жыл бұрын
Xenoblade fans with perfect pitch unite! There are dozens of us... DOZENS!
@hydrohawkx8640
@hydrohawkx8640 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect. I always hated how the DE was a higher pitch. It made the song sound less intimidating
@MadrigalNeXus
@MadrigalNeXus 3 жыл бұрын
As a veteran player of Xenoblade for the Wii this pitch of the song sounds so much better. When I heard the actual rearranged version of this song for XCDE, it just sounded so wrong to me. Thank you for blessing my ears so I can listen the arranged version in the original's pitch. Now if only we got an extended version of this pitched version
@rex_yaldabaoth
@rex_yaldabaoth 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had a similar feeling with a few of the DE tracks, where they added some things I liked but changed some things I didn't want changed (Like the bells in this one) so i've made a few tracks now where i've layered the DE and old versions on top of each other. This and zanza are the ones it works best for imo. As for an extension, I'll whip one up in a few hours
@MadrigalNeXus
@MadrigalNeXus 3 жыл бұрын
@@rex_yaldabaoth yeah I agree, like the rearranged version of You Will Know Our Names just sounds a bit of a downgrade from the original, especially since the original has shown up in other games, (ex: Xenoblade 2, Smash, Project X Zone) I'm not saying it's horrible, but the rearranged version kind of trys to build up to the hype part, whereas with the original, it was hype all the way through from start to finish (not to mention the song can be terrifyingly alertful when you just start the game and make it to Bionis' Leg, when out of nowhere the music cuts to the sound of electric guitars as Territorial Rotbart starts chasing you down). So far those are the only changes to the soundtrack I haven't been most enthusiastic about. Haven't gotten super far into DE as a lot of personal life stuff has slowly been taking over. But I'm trying to get into it again.
@skydiamsteam6005
@skydiamsteam6005 Жыл бұрын
Hmm nah
@MadrigalNeXus
@MadrigalNeXus Жыл бұрын
@@skydiamsteam6005 what do you mean "nah"? nah it doesn't sound better? nah there aint gonna be an extended version of this pitchshifted version (even though the channel owner did make one years ago since it was requested)? gotta give context boi. "nah" aint a damn kind of reply.
@danmatian5592
@danmatian5592 Жыл бұрын
The beginning is amazing 🤩 💙
@TaraZaraChara
@TaraZaraChara 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what this is from but it kicks ass.
@rex_yaldabaoth
@rex_yaldabaoth 3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha, it's from an RPG called Xenoblade Chronicles, on the Wii and nintendo switch. You should check it out!
@HollowPurple-if2co
@HollowPurple-if2co 3 жыл бұрын
Stellar game, will not disappoint
@hexospikez741
@hexospikez741 2 жыл бұрын
When you think a fly bit you.
@asprinjuice8877
@asprinjuice8877 7 ай бұрын
When you pay for your insolence
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 3 жыл бұрын
*when you hear this then immediately psi* ...damn you siivagunner
@nelsonzenkai1049
@nelsonzenkai1049 2 жыл бұрын
This sound so amazing
@aaronfishe
@aaronfishe 3 жыл бұрын
damn this slaps tho
@DiosHorn_Mk-II
@DiosHorn_Mk-II 3 жыл бұрын
原曲のピッチで聞き慣れているからありがたい
@rex_yaldabaoth
@rex_yaldabaoth 3 жыл бұрын
どういたしまして!
@chirijireiden
@chirijireiden 3 жыл бұрын
Really only 5 comments excluding this one ?
@alanvasquez6923
@alanvasquez6923 3 жыл бұрын
Guess people preferred the pitch change
@emiliciachan
@emiliciachan 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to leave this exact same comment on both edits of this track as well as extensions because I kind of want to talk about this. Now that both versions have more or less been combined to make the true "definitive edition" of the track, I have to say, I don't think I really have a preference for which pitch I prefer. I could listen to both of these back to back and get a song of equal quality either way. What is definitely different however is the tone, atmosphere, vibes, and feel of the two different pitches. The lower pitched version we've been used to all these years gives off a "The Bad Guys Are Winning / Have The Head Start ;(" feel to it. The higher pitch version used in Definitive Edition on the other hand gives off the exact opposite feeling: "The Good Guys Are Winning / Have The Head Start >:)" This single pitch change combined with your opposite edits to either restore the DE version to the original or change the orignal to the DE pitch creates a missed opportunity where regardless of which soundtrack you pick in the options, the devs after correcting the remaster to the original pitch in an editor to not have to change the guitar's tuning (that's also a missed opportunity seeing that you seemed to have done that part for them very easily.) realize that both pitches could be used in both versions depending on what is going on in the cutscene. The Mechon have the advantage? original pitch. Shulk and friends have the advantage? DE pitch. Regardless of which soundtrack you picked. While we're talking about options, how about an option to turn this alone off even, or even a Why Not Both option for any track that has an OG and an DE version like showcased here. The opportunity is there, the potential is there, that's unfortunately just not what they went with. but it's not like the devs didn't realize this or anything like that, didn't notice it, didn't come up with this, etc. Based on what I've read in other KZfaq Comments, it sounds like an alpha, beta, etc version of this idea did make it into the final game. Apparently for just one cutscene in the game, even if you set it to the DE soundtrack in the options, it will still play the original version of the track for just one cutscene. This would mean that the devs felt the original pitch was far more appropriate for that one scene and that the higher pitch would've lost the impact that was meant to be had. This effectively means that I'm saying here did cross the developer's minds in some shape or form. They just didn't go all out with it. Which makes this missed opportunity hurt just a tiny bit more. But hey, the Switch version lives up to the Definitive Edition name even despite this. The visuals alone.... specifically the facial expressions in the Switch version.... That alone dates the original Wii release by a ton for me! The first cutscene with Engage The Enemy? Yeah, compared to the Switch remaster, the Wii Version by comparison looks like it was done by whoever did the cutscenes for Sonic Adventure, because the facial expressions just don't match the voice acting if you ask me. But considering that Pikachu in Brawl will literally smile even when getting launched, hit by an attack, or grabbed, but he properly makes a pained expression in Smash Wii U and Ultimate, I think it's safe to say that this is a limitation of the Wii itself and they did the best they could. I imagine a CRT plus an original Wii would disguise this perfectly though. I only noticed that Pikachu literally smiled while getting hit when pausing the game and zooming in and years after Brawl came out and while Wii U was in development. I noticed it on a CRT mind you but I still didn't notice it for years and only when pausing the game and adjusting the camera. Proof that consoles designed with CRTs in mind like the Wii took full advantage of the CRT's low quality image to save on resources to boost the visual quality to current gen in other ways. But back to the original topic since I got far off of it lol. The last thing I'm going to say is that I have a special gift from God themselves (Or from lucky Science birth giving RNG I'll let you decide lol) when it comes to music. I have what is known as Synesthesia. How it effects people is completely radically different for each individual so here is some more info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia As for how it effects me specifically, I am able to *hear* colours in music, and ONLY music. Yes, *hear* colours, that's not a typo or an error, I can actually hear colour. What you guys perceive as a mere pitch change doesn't sound at all like a pitch to me. It sounds like the colour or colours of the music itself have completely changed. the original pitch of this track is completely Red to me. The DE pitch of this track is completely Green to me. but this alone isn't what I find interesting (but maybe it is to you guys since I've had this my whole life and it's the idea of listening to music in Black and White with no colour like an old film that sounds weird to me lol) What I do find interesting is the possible coincidence or even completely intentional thing I'm about to bring up here. What is the colour Red usually associated with? Negativity, Stop Signs, Red Traffic Lights, Wrong Answer, etc right? What is the colour Green associated with? Positivity, Go Signs, Green Traffic Lights, Correct Answer, etc right? Is it a coincidence that the Green higher pitch sounds like Shulk is winning and the Red lower pitch sounds like the Mechon are winning? Or is it completely intentional that one sounds positive and one sounds negative? Does it only sound positive or negative because of the colour choice? Or is that what the two sound like respectively to people without synesthesia like I assume most of you don't have? Curious to hear your responses. :3 Also to the maker of these edits, if you'd be willing to do these for any track in the game that has both a DE and Original version I think a lot of people would really appreciate that. Same with extended versions for all of those. Also, if you could do this for the rest of the Bowser's Inside Story OST I will literally kiss you ~ Thanks for reading ~ If I think of anything else to say I'll edit this comment later. Edit: If the devs did what I suggested here in full, I don't think anyone in the fandom for this game would complain about having a second alternative version of this track for both versions. It's an improvement, addition, etc regardless of which one you prefer and it's a shame that never saw the light of day. :(
@rex_yaldabaoth
@rex_yaldabaoth 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, you wrote a full essay in my youtube comments ahahaha. I'll definitely make more of these at some point, but some tracks on the xenoblade ost in particular are a nightmare as they contain pauses, which means there's no consistent way to easily sync the old and new versions. Also, due to doing my masters, I don't exactly have much time rn.
@MadrigalNeXus
@MadrigalNeXus Жыл бұрын
Dude just wanted to state his opinion, ended up writing a 30-paged essay in the form of a KZfaq comment and then post said KZfaq comment in three videos done by the same Channel owner. If that wall of text aint some kind of copypasta, it might as well be now. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be making the exact same comment you're reading right now on the other two videos just for the sake of consistency.
@PrestoChango0913
@PrestoChango0913 2 жыл бұрын
*1:26* *Best Part!!!!!!!*
@rhettmitchell
@rhettmitchell Жыл бұрын
Damn I never knew this since I never played until the switch version 😭
@rex_yaldabaoth
@rex_yaldabaoth Жыл бұрын
I mean, the original music is also available in the switch version, give it a listen sometime! it obviously doesn't contain the mixed together ones i've made though.
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