They didnt use force push because they couldn't afford the star card recharge.

"I CAN SEE HIS MIND! I CAN NEVER BE BETRAYED!" ....... Snoke, seconds before he was betrayed, 2017.

They could have cut out the entire casino section and used it for training sequences

Star wars the Old Republic Trailers had a better story than this movie!

THE CASINO PLANET WAS FULL OF LOOTBOXES AND MICROTRANSACTIONS!!!

It's shocking that BB-8 has more kills than Snoke, Luke, and Kylo combined!!

I miss the good old days , when the force wasn't confusing , and when villans had epic fights

They butchered Luke's character

Leia got her flying Superman power out of a lootbox.

Did anyone spot EA in the Casino scene?

I liked Rogue One better than this...

Not to mention that this new "Force makes balance instantly" completely disregards the Prophecy with Anakin. Suddenly, episode 1-6 and The Clone Wars has no point to them.

seriously admiral ackbar should have been the one who is on the ship crashing to the other ships in light speed, would have been a better send off

We can all say Snoke... ... is half the man he used to be.

Here is a list of ALL the things wrong: Leia flying through space. Ackbar not being the one to lightspeed into the Dreadnought. Leia not being the one to lightspeed into the Dreadnought. Rey not demanding her THIRD lesson. The Porgs are now starving on the Falcon, because they were removed from their ecosystem. Chewy eating them is a mercy. Ben Swolo's pants were pulled up to high. Poe used lightspeed to close the distance, entering the Dreadnought shield to fast for it to repel it. (They forgot to mention it, or I'm filling their plot holes for them idk) Slow Chase: Destroyers didn't lightspeed to positions to cut them off. Rey being a Jedi Master without training and little knowledge of the Force. DJ's stutter was terribly unrealisitic. The Casino Arc. The ENTIRE thing. Rose catching up to Finn and almost KILLING him. Then stupidly talking about "we should save what we love" despite Finn having been trying exactly that while the Door is busted open. Luke just giving up on life and dying. The Lightspeed-Crash destroyed ALL escort ships, despite not hitting them. Luke throwing away the Lightsabre. Luke milking that weird tit monster. Luke using the blue lightsabre. Luke projecting the golden dice he gives to Leia throughout the fight and even posthumously. Somehow. Chewy not eating that yummy Porg after its friend begs to eat some of it. Phasma not being used better. That weird opera singer on Casino Bait. Rey's parents being junkers. Nobody is that fucking powerful without training to NOT be Skywalker or Medichlorian lovechild or both. Snoke being killed (his moments were otherwise decent). The Pretorian Guard sucking hard. Rey being utterly naive. Maybe I just don't connect with her and that's why I perceive her that way. We're not even seen what she sees in Kylo's future, but it was somehow life-changing for her. General hux being a joke that is mocked and thrown around all the time. Yoda looked weird at first, no Idea why. (Lightning strike was cool though. but still raises eye-brows) Luke not having married Mara Jade and mourning her loss. (Sure that Jedi Academy Scene might have turned Ben, but Hamill's backstory was clearly more effective) That was supposed to be the ENTIRE fleet of the First Order? How is the Galaxy terrified of that? Those were less than 10 Destroyers and a Dreadnought, the Endor DS escort was greater by dozens and that was considered a "small fleet" in comparison to the entirity. That first order uniform ironing machine. I'm done for now, feel free to add some.

Episode 3 was better than this by far

Vader’s end scene in Rogue One was better than this whole movie

A moment of silence for Admiral Ackbar please :'(

I use one quote to describe this movie "THAT'S NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS!!!" - Han Solo

If you think about it episode 7-8 takes place in a span of 5-7 days. Let that sink in... Finn and Kylo instantly healed. Leía over her dead husband The first order, after losing a major asset, already taking over the galaxy and assaulting the resistance base. Just how big is their military and why didn’t the republic deal with them sooner. And luke dies... leía lost both Luke and Han in the same week...

They purposely built up to the reveal of Rey’s parents and Snoke’s identity and then pretty much just told everyone to fuck off.

They also just throw the, "May the force be with you" line around, even if nothing suspenseful is happening.

dont get how you can give it a 7/10 with so many flaws as you yourself said, but okay

I think you gave 7/10 just because its star wars and just because of all those old characters and lore. This movie does not deserve this high rating really. Its so empty and disappointing.

The thing with Han... Luke is in his hut ignoring Rey and there's a knock on the door. He says, "Go away," and the door blows off the hinges and Chewie bursts in and gives Luke a furious roar... I mean Chewie was ANGRY! Luke recoils in shock and tries to talk to Chewie, and then asks, "Where's Han?"... and the scene ends. We needed to see Luke's reaction to the news that Han is dead... especially since it was at Kylo Ren's hands (another layers to Luke's failure). Since the death of Han, the only original character we saw react to it was Chewie. Leia's reaction in The Force Awakens was ambiguous. Was she reacting to Han's death or Kylo Ren's fall into darkness? Now we get Luke, and they skip right past the moment. Very disappointing.

You're telling me that Luke, the guy that saw the good in Vader (murderer of children and exploder of planets), saw enough darkness in Kylo (who hadn't....done anything?) to contemplate killing him? ......wtf? Am I the only who thought that was heinously out of character?

Snoke is hanging out with the Night King in the heaven of inconsequential villains.

If Yoda or other force ghosts can use force lightning like that, why the hell don't they just go and kill snoke. Biggest plot hole in the saga right now.

Finn: It's over Phasma! I have the High Ground!

They should've cut Rose's scenes in half instead of Snoke.

I like how Leia survived a massive explosion, and floating in space...but Luke dies from force projecting himself to another planet lol

This shit movie was worst than The Phantom Menace

Superman Leia almost made me walk out of the theater

Let's pay our respects to Admiral Arkbar

From the trailers I expected this film to be about Rey initially being trained by Luke to fight The First Order and eventually turning over to the Dark Side because Luke's own insecurities and depression about his failures, and her being manipulated by Snoke. Then Kylo Ren killing his mother and expecting to be rewarded by Snoke but is instead discarded once Snoke turns Rey into his new apprentice so turns back to the Light Side... I would have also had Snoke's guards turn out to be The Knights of Ren but also the remaining living ex-students of Luke Skywalker and also Rey would find out she's the younger sister of Kylo Ren. And during all this, I would have had The First Order destroying the rest of the Resistance... That is what I would have done. This film is bad storytelling, end of... Too many plotholes Too many questions/WTF moments Too much convenience Too many pointless "side quests" and "side characters" Not enough development on the Main Characters Too many shit jokes that feel like they've been forced into the script Disappointing Villain The only thing I enjoyed were the action scenes

its sad, the only entertainment i get from star wars these days is watching its demise

Another thing... They should have NOT introduced Admiral Holdo, and instead used Admiral ACKBAR. He would have had more authority from the perspective of the audience, making Poe's mutiny more questionable, AND when he piloted the ship into the Imperial fleet, it would have been a badass death for a well known character, and it would have had more impact on the fans because he's a character we all KNOW.

It should've been Ackbar or Leia that rammed into the Supremacy, not a nobody we met ten minutes ago

I was actually disappointed that Rey didn't join the dark side. I was really expecting it to go that way. This movie had a lot of potential for some very interesting twists and it really dropped the ball for me.

Luke's force membership ran out

Heres a stat for you... bb-8 kills more ppl in this film than Luke Skywalker & Snoke does combined. Thanks Disney!!

I can see why mark was unhappy with the direction they took Luke lol.

The Last Jedi would be a top performer in Bangkok and put Dyson Vacuums out of business because it just sucked hardcore

The way this movie/trilogy completely makes all the events of the past movies seem pointless offends me as a Star Wars fan. Like what was the point of the Skywalker family arc if the Emperor is supposedly still around and Anakin’s son Luke was gonna die in an anticlimactic manner fighting a war that is just the original repeated. The fact these movies occur in the same rehashed conflict just cheapens the original trilogy and everything the Skywalkers went through. It’s very clear Disney wanted to make a new trilogy with the old actors and plot line purely because it draws tons of money but didn’t have the consideration to respectfully handle this continuity.

The fundamental issues have never been resolved: who started the First Order? How do they have 100x more resources, ships and technology than the Republic or even the Empire ever had? How did Snoke know the dark side? How do people know how to use the Force without training, when every other movie says you need extensive training, even for Anakin who had a midichlorian level higher than Charlie Sheen's blood alcohol level?

I really loved the part of the movie when they cut into Maz Kanata's Twitch stream..

the throne room fight scene was absolutly pathetic

My biggest problem with Rey being basically nobody is that it makes the force awakens ending even worse. if she is nobody how the hell can she take on Kylo Ren who has all this training from Luke and Snoke. If she was part of the skywalker family tree or literally anybody who was force sensitive I would be fine with it but she's not so it's pure bullshit

Forget Snoke, Ryan Johnson is the real villain in this movie

the casino scene, was an easteregg for disney and EA's officies

My biggest issue was the portrayal of Luke that lead to the decimation of his Jedi school. Has his crisis moment of whether or not to kill his student instead of any other reasonable way of handling that situation. The side quest with Finn was frustrating too. Luke dying was just as lame as Snoke dying, but the force BALANCES itself, for every good guy there is a bad guy to make up for it. The force is the biggest asshole in the universe deliberately making conflict.

I literally watch this every couple of months just to remind myself 😂😂 rip

Disney- "Lando, what do they want Lando for? We already have the one black character for the quota."

The Finn and Rose bit was a thinly veiled waste of time. If the purple haired lady just told everybody about the plan (you know, about going to the fucking salt planet) then: they wouldn’t need a code breaker, Finn and Rose never would have been ambushed, and the rebel transport ships wouldn’t have been detected while fleeing to the salt planet. Clearly the writers missed marks, although I would love to see a pepper planet in episode 9.

The throne room looked terrible. Killed off what could've been a cool villain. And housed an absolutely atrocious fight scene with HUNDREDS of errors. Just horrible

Also when Poe takes on the dreadnaut how is there not a fleet of like 40 fighters that would be immediately scrambled?

I feel like the casino sequence was perfectly set up for Lando to return

They should stop using thousands of dollars in ice foxes and pay some serious writer...

After the-watching this discussion, I have one thing to say... STAR WARS FANS DON'T WANT POLITICAL STATEMENTS IN FUCKING STAR WARS! The entire casino plot is absolutely nonsense. And for Reeeee-anne Johnson to use Star Wars as a way to shove in slavery issues, capitalism and rich people issues, and fucking ridiculous animal cruelty issues, is not only disingenuous, self grandizing, and false narrative story writing, but also all of the things that people who want to just go enjoy a movie about lightsabers and starships DON'T want to see in a popcorn flick. This is just indicitave of Hollyweird pushing their agendas on the public and reason number ONE as to why most peole with common sense have found other means of entertainment. It's just disgusting that all these years later, this movie is a fucking disaster. Get woke, go broke Disney.

At this point I’m starting to think Disney is purposefully sabotaging its own new series to get rid of all the fan theories and having to live up to hype so they don’t have to constantly live up to fans expectations.

So now we are supposed to fear Kylo Ren? the same Kylo Ren that got his ass handed to him by first time jedi user Rey? So appearently Rey became more powerful then the new Emperor, all over night! GAME, SET and MATCH lol Nothing to fear here...terrible storytelling by Corporate Disney.

Finns entire mini adventure could be cut entirely and it would not have any impact of the plot of this or any star wars film

You forgot to mention this Joe: Snoke claims he joins the minds of Ray and Kylo so they may communicate through the force; making Ray believe Kylo can join the light side. Yet at the very scene, just before the Han golden dice disappear out of Kylo's hands; Ray and Kylo see each other through the force again. Ray closes the millennium falcons door and then the dice fades away... This makes no sense!!! This just makes Snoke look like a hypocrite and a liar. WHO DID THIS?!!

How come it take Luke three movies to become a Jedi. But Ray with no real training 10 mins of movie. To many broken plot holes.

I was hoping Snoke would be another hologram and just laugh and say “I knew it.” When he got impaled.

How can anyone not hate that Rose stopped Finn from destroying that cannon to save the fuckin resistance??!

Love coming back to these!

This movie was absolute GARBAGE and deserves a ZERO out of Ten. Period.

I dont know why noone is acknowledging this but WHERE THE FUCK were the knights of Ren?

"THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO THE WAY YOU THINK...." Yuuuuup you got that right The Last Jedi....

How come no one has mentioned that fact that even if you were to run out of fuel in space, you would maintain the same direction and speed. You wouldn't all of a sudden slow down and get within range of the lasers. The only reason you would run out of fuel is if you were constantly accelerating and that wasn't the case as the ships were maintaining a constant velocity. Which means the ship in pursuit would never catch them unless they called for support from the other direction to cut them off.

TFA was an okayish start, and then.... Ruin Johnson happened.

I was so expected the master codebreaker and gambler to be Lando!

Snoke should of bought the loot boxes!

Of all movies why did Star Wars have to bring politics into their movie?!

Coming back to this years later lol. Mannn I remember seeing episode 8 in the theatre opening weekend and hated so much I pretty much stopped watching SW from Disney. 1-6 are the only real films.

They avoided showing Admiral Ackbar blowing up in the ship, to avoid the "Allahu Ackbar" memes

I think that Admiral Ackbar shoul replace that old math teacher with pink hair, and while ramming at Snoke star destroyer he should screem something like "It's a trap motherf****rs!", or at least "It's a trap".

Snoke was such a cool and interesting character, could've easily been one of best evil lords in the Star Wars universe. And they just wasted him for no reason...

I don’t like how you keep cutting off the guy in the blue shirt, let him talk.

Nothing from TFA mattered in this movie.

didn't anyone have a problem with the ww2 style bomber in space? Open door drop bomb with gravity in space? What kind of stupid bomber design is that?

Damn watching this again and reminded me how they did Admiral Ackbar dirty. Duuuude...

They destroyed Luke Skywalker, did nothing with princess Leia, killed admiral Ackbar without even mentioning him? What is the point of making a Star Wars movie if you don't plan to build on what already exists in it? There was one single moment in the movie that they could have done something with - when Kylo Ren asked Rey to join him, she should have gone to the dark side of the force and together with Kylo become new Darth Vader in the saga. But no, the prospect of making Rey dolls and selling them to kids was more important than making a good movie. Luke could then have come in his X Wing to the rescue of the rebels and it would be ok for him to die this way. But no, they chose for him to just .... disappear from fatigue ????? Angry Joe, how could you give 7/10 to this movie? Maybe it would be better if it was not a Star Wars movie, because "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility". So, final verdict: maybe 7/10 for technical side, but 0/10 for the story.

The little kid at the end used the force to bring the broom closer to himself. Your friend was going to point that out but y'all cut him off lol

Only major spoiler is that the best admiral in the galaxy died :(

It’s fun coming back here after rise of sky walker They didn’t know how much worse it could get

The kid at the end uses the force to pick up the broom off the wall. Not even lyimg watch the scene again

snoke could have been one of the greatest star wars villains ever, and they just killed him off like he was some pleb. unreal.

I can SAVE episode 8 from being a disaster in 5 easy steps! Are you listening Disney? 1 - Remove canto bite casino scene. 2- when Leia is ejected into space, she dies, let her float away in peace. 3 - Snoke is not killed but, he runs away when ray and kylo team up and start fighting his guards. 4 - after luke finishes his astral projection fight with kylo, he looks at the twin suns from his island but, doesn't die. 5 - admiral akbar is the one who sacrifices himself and flys the rebellion ship at light speed into first order ships, Not a random woman character that nobody cares about.

The Prequel Trilogy is so much better than this trash and tbh none of them were bad, the critics and most fans view the worst one (TPM) as decent with around a 6/10 average score (with ROTS actually being higher than ROTJ and R1) so I never understood how that translated to bad anyway

I'm calling the moment when Leia flies back into the ship "Space Jesus'

LANDO could've made the sacrifice at light speed, or LEIA, not a unknown character that nobody gives a shit about; that epic moment was stolen.

Flying Leia will always be shocking to me.

"They're gonna have to wrap it all up" Wrap what up? What has actually happened over the course of the 2 movies? What is the point to it all?

Maybe they should have got an actress who can hold a weapon like she knows how to use it; Daisy really holds the throne room fight back, while Adam actually killed it by comparison, only missing a few cues here and there. She swings her sword like she's never picked one up before, which makes sense in the story except they made her nigh unstoppable. That lightsaber should be more of a threat to herself than the royal guards honestly.

Force Awakens: Who are Rey's parents? The last Jedi: Doesn't matter. Nobodies. Force Awakens: Who is Snoke? The Last Jedi: It doesn't matter, he's dead. Disney: Yay it's Star Wars!!!!! Audience: WTF?

Luke is not dead he just imagined he was invisible and took of his clothes.

Trash film. I'm done until they remake last jedi.

I rewatch these the fuel my hatred for the sequels