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Answering Anti-Catholic Myths About Lent

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@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 6 ай бұрын
I got a YT context banner for “The Two Babylons.” Lol
@drbirdleaf2574
@drbirdleaf2574 6 ай бұрын
I got that too. 😂
@GumbyJumpOff
@GumbyJumpOff 6 ай бұрын
I only got for "The Boo Tabylons" what am I doing wrong what am I missing can I have some Two Babylons too like c'mon feel like you guys are hogging it jk sure there's plenty more than there needs to be to go around! 🎉
@1991ROLEX
@1991ROLEX 6 ай бұрын
Same; guess the algorithm doesn't like my Catholicism! LOL
@DRWH044
@DRWH044 6 ай бұрын
At least we can easily prove that that belief only started on 1853😉
@GAF2234
@GAF2234 5 ай бұрын
C*tholicism is just pagan
@PaulsWanderings
@PaulsWanderings 6 ай бұрын
The 40 days of Lent are meant to mimic the 40 days Jesus spent in the desert before started his public ministry. I love watching these types of videos. They help me remember a lot of what I learned in Catechism and throughout time in the Catholic church.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 6 ай бұрын
You say "the 40 days of Lent are meant to mimic the 40 days Jesus spent in the desert before [he] started his public ministry"? Tell me, where in your Bible did Jesus fast for 40 days AFTER he started his public ministry. *NOWHERE!!* Also, where does your Bible say that Jesus' apostles and other disciples fasted for 40 days? BTW, how long can you go without food or water before you die of starvation? I doubt you could last for more than 3 weeks.
@Kitiwake
@Kitiwake 6 ай бұрын
​@@cbooth151 using the holy name to troll someone. Shame on you.
@PaulsWanderings
@PaulsWanderings 6 ай бұрын
@@cbooth151 Matthew 4:1-11 and you need to learn about fasting. Fasting does not mean you go without food and water for a long period of time. Instead of eating 3 meals to eat 1 small meal in the day.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 6 ай бұрын
@@PaulsWanderings "Matthew 4:1-11 and you need to learn about fasting. Fasting does not mean you go without food and water for a long period of time. Instead of eating 3 meals to eat 1 small meal in the day." Wouldn't you say that 40 days is a long time to go without eating? Now tell me, when Jesus fasted for 40 days following his baptism, how much food did he consume during that time? Was it a small amount each 24-hour period? NO! Instead, it was *NOTHING!!* As Luke 4:1, 2 says: "Filled with the holy Spirit, Jesus returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the desert for forty days, to be tempted by the devil. *He ate nothing during those days."* Now, answer my questions. "Where in your Bible did Jesus fast for 40 days AFTER he started his public ministry. Also, "Where does your Bible say that Jesus' apostles and other disciples fasted for 40 days?
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 6 ай бұрын
@@Kitiwake 2 Pet. 3:15 says: "Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope." Now, tell me, were you ready to defend your belief in what Catholics call 'Lent'? Obviously not. Instead, you had to say something stupid. Grow up, pal.
@jpesmar
@jpesmar 6 ай бұрын
This lent I'll be focusing on letting the Lord clean me of impure thoughts and actions. Thats definitely something that constantly keeps pushing me away from God and fills me with regret and shame, to the point that sometimes I'm even too ashamed to pray and thsnk our Father for his love, because I feel the greatest hypocrite of them all. I'll try to go to Confession this week too. Please pray for me, brothers and sisters, so I can receive our Father's mercy and let him work His will in me. Thank all y'all and God bless.
@HAMO-xp9us
@HAMO-xp9us 6 ай бұрын
i’m going through the same bro, Psalm 119 helps. i feel like this will relate
@GravInducedSleepTrac
@GravInducedSleepTrac 6 ай бұрын
Happy Ash Wednesday & St Valentines Day :)🙏🙏🙏 YOU ARE ON POINT WITH YOUR EXPLANATION ON WHY WE HAVE 40 DAYS OF LENT. God Bless :)
@lilnallie05
@lilnallie05 6 ай бұрын
Well at least I’m glad they found a different council from the council of Nicaea to blame.
@bradyhayes7911
@bradyhayes7911 6 ай бұрын
Great video as usual bro! Here before your channel blows up
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@jvlp2046
@jvlp2046 5 күн бұрын
St. Paul warned us all, "DO NOT GO BEYOND/EXCEED WHAT IS WRITTEN." (ref. 1 Corin. 4:6)... if we do, God's CURSE (Anathema/Eternal Condemnation) will FALL upon us... (ref. Galatians 1:8)... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen...
@JohnVianneyPatron
@JohnVianneyPatron 6 ай бұрын
As a kid the ashes helped me figure out which of the pretty girls was Catholic, so I could ask the right person out...lol
@ineedmorestuff
@ineedmorestuff 6 ай бұрын
Comin' in clutch!!!
@VoiceOfReason_
@VoiceOfReason_ 6 ай бұрын
My video on Lent was good, this one was better 👀
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen 6 ай бұрын
C'mon now.. You went WAY deeper than me.😤
@VoiceOfReason_
@VoiceOfReason_ 6 ай бұрын
@@thecatechumen I know what we must do….collab! 😎
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen 6 ай бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ I am 100% down bro 🔥 Do you have my number? You could probably grab it from Michael
@VoiceOfReason_
@VoiceOfReason_ 6 ай бұрын
@@thecatechumen my man 😎 I’ll hit you up soon! 🙏🏽
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen 6 ай бұрын
Good stuff 🙏
@tjkhan4541
@tjkhan4541 6 ай бұрын
Hey man, I don’t know if you are actually a catechumen yourself right now, but if you are, I would suggest that you hold off producing videos on religion and theology for a few years. You may not want to hear this, but I say it because you’re in a season of learning a lot and your views will surely change on some topics over a short-to-mid-range time. I just suggest this as a help so that you don’t have to rescind a bunch of views.
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! I technically was never a “catechumen” since I received a valid baptism while I was still Protestant. So, we went through RCIA as candidates and were confirmed a year ago.
@JohnVianneyPatron
@JohnVianneyPatron 6 ай бұрын
Momento Mori "You are dust and to dust you shall return"!
@TheBlackToedOne
@TheBlackToedOne 6 ай бұрын
During our Ash Wednesday night service pastor did the ash sign of the cross on everyone's forehead- men, women and children. And w/ each one he took the time to look everyone in the eye and say this. And we had a full house. Not just the words but the fact he took the time and do that for each and every one of us spoke volumes.
@martar.2085
@martar.2085 4 ай бұрын
Memento
@jvlp2046
@jvlp2046 5 күн бұрын
Why does St. Paul say to Hold firmly to the Spoke/Oral Tradition and Written Tradition (ref. 2 Thessa 2:15)?... because St. Paul knew that he would not be able to see the WRITTEN Tradition be completed... St. Paul was beheaded around 67 A.D.... the Final Completion of the Written Word of God (Inspire Holy Scriptures) was after the Gospel of John and Revelation that were distributed in the Early 7 Churches of God in Asia Minor at the end of the 1st Century around 110 A.D. . The Complete WRITTEN Inspired Holy Scriptures became the STANDARD of the Early 7 Churches in Asia Minor, profitable for TEACHING Doctrines, for REPROOFING, for CORRECTING, and for INSTRUCTION in Righteousness...etc." (ref. 2 Timothy 3:16)... Take Note:... the Oral/Spoken Tradition and the Completely Inspired Written Tradition must be UNITED as ONE and THE SAME... like God the Father with His Son (Word/Christ Jesus) and the Holy Spirit... So, therefore, as long as the Oral/Spoken Tradition does not contradict with the Complete Written Tradition, that is fine/ok to practice by Christians... However, if it does contradict, the Written Tradition must overrule, supersede, and stop/cease the practice of that particular Oral/Spoken Tradition... WHY?... because that is GOD'S WORDS, WILL, and TRUTH... it must be WRITTEN down in Context and in Meaning, and not by/through specific word/s only... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.
@jamiea.c.seerattan365
@jamiea.c.seerattan365 6 ай бұрын
Love the explanation
@SaintlySaavy
@SaintlySaavy 5 ай бұрын
New Sub! Love the suite of content!
@yvonetubla7682
@yvonetubla7682 6 ай бұрын
in my country ash wednesday is not a holy day of obligation there are only two days christmas and feast of the assumption today is thursday
@coachp12b
@coachp12b 6 ай бұрын
It’s not a holy day of obligation anywhere
@yvonetubla7682
@yvonetubla7682 6 ай бұрын
@@coachp12b what did you mean by that?
@benecliptus
@benecliptus 6 ай бұрын
​@@yvonetubla7682 he probably means that Ash Wednesday is not observed as a Holy Day of obligation in the Catholic church, although it is a day of mandatory fasting and abstinence.
@nics4967
@nics4967 6 ай бұрын
Canada?
@eleanor9004
@eleanor9004 6 ай бұрын
That the rules of the Catholic Church are the same rules everywhere. Those don't depend on what a government declare a celebration day​@@yvonetubla7682
@NassauOngalewuPukapuka-hg4zt
@NassauOngalewuPukapuka-hg4zt 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely AMEN brother 🙏 100% RIGHT 👏
@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve
@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Keep it up my good Lad. I will donate next time. God bless. 🍷🍞✝️🙌🏻📿🕊🙏🏻👍🏻⛪️
@cinnamondan4984
@cinnamondan4984 6 ай бұрын
I am Mormon in ordinary time and Catholic for Lent. I am an active member of the LDS Church but I love going to mass on Ash Wednesday and other holy days.
@Garry_Combine
@Garry_Combine 6 ай бұрын
Why not come all the way?
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen 6 ай бұрын
You should consider joining the Church established by Christ :)
@sopadeeletras
@sopadeeletras 6 ай бұрын
It's not 40-ish days. It's 40 days on the spot. Sundays do not count.
@jarradjeter1523
@jarradjeter1523 5 ай бұрын
"Promo sm" 😒
@richardbenitez1282
@richardbenitez1282 5 ай бұрын
Lots of catholic stuff of course comes from Hebrew practices. Like duh!
@gomezjkv
@gomezjkv 6 ай бұрын
With all due respect, observing Lent the way the church prescribes encourages us to reject the complete forgiveness of sins that Jesus provided for the world through His death on a cross. Additionally it reduces the seriousness of sin. No longer is death the wage of committing sin. Now one only need apologize and perform penance. In other words sin wasn’t such a bid deal. It didn’t really require the death of God, manifested in the flesh. When do we rest in what He did for us instead of trying to vainly mimic His suffering by spending 40-ish days trying to restrain our flesh? This makes no sense to me. God bless, from a former Catholic. May your Lenten season be fruitful.
@hoseinexile07
@hoseinexile07 6 ай бұрын
With all due respect, I really fail to see how an entire season devoted to contrition, confession, penance, and reminders of mortality and our need for a savior minimizes the gravity of sin.
@gomezjkv
@gomezjkv 6 ай бұрын
@@hoseinexile07 It seems that way to me because, from what I see in the pages of the Gospel, the sin issue between us and God was resolved by Christ’s death in the cross. Any other way of dealing with our sins on our own minimizes what He accomplished. In other words, we are in control of our relationship with our God. We get to decide when we will allow Him to have fellowship with Him when we decide to perform our small acts of repentance and penance. Christ died for the sins of the world. Why would we ask for something we have already received? Why do we not thank Him for what He has done for us instead of diminishing His act of grace and mercy toward His creation? It just seems to me that trying to live a life that we cannot live and apologizing when we sin is taking His sacrifice for granted. God bless.
@hoseinexile07
@hoseinexile07 6 ай бұрын
@@gomezjkv I just don't understand your reasoning. "It seems that way to me because, from what I see in the pages of the Gospel, the sin issue between us and God was resolved by Christ’s death in the cross." -Ultimately, yes, but we still struggle with sin in our lives because we are not fully sanctified yet. Salvation is not just a moment; it's a process. That's why St. Paul can write of justification in Romans in past tense, but in the future tense in 2 Thessalonians, and after perseverance. "Any other way of dealing with our sins on our own minimizes what He accomplished. In other words, we are in control of our relationship with our God. We get to decide when we will allow Him to have fellowship with Him when we decide to perform our small acts of repentance and penance." -EDIT: This doesn't make sense to me. How can acts (prayer, fasting, confession, pennance) performed as part of a relationship, dictate the terms of the relationship with God? They arent acts that deal with our sin on our own. That's Pelagianism, not Christianity. I'd also argue that repentance isnt ever a small act. This is why one of the optional exhortations during the imposition of ashes on Ash Wednesday is, 'Repent and return to the Gospel.' "Christ died for the sins of the world. Why would we ask for something we have already received? Why do we not thank Him for what He has done for us instead of diminishing His act of grace and mercy toward His creation?" -We have received salvation from Christ, but we also take it for granted and fail to live up to what it demands of us. In that way, we need to allow God to reminded of the value of the gift we have in him.
@gomezjkv
@gomezjkv 6 ай бұрын
@@hoseinexile07 So then, would you say that observing Lent is a way of living our lives as Christ commands but only for a brief moment each year? I believe that Jesus is the Lamb of God who took away the sin of the world. What does it mean to you to have salvation? It sounds to me that your definition of salvation is having your sins forgiven. Salvation is the restoration of the Holy Spirit of God, that was lost to humanity when Adam sinned. Salvation is an event, not a process. Since we cannot merit our salvation in the first place, there is nothing we can do to sustain our salvation. As John describes in his letter, Christ died for our sins but not just for ours but for those of the whole world. The forgiveness of sins is not salvation. Just as the Spirit of Life departed from Adam when he sinned, we receive the Holy Spirit when we put our faith and trust solely on Christ. And since He took away the sin of the world, there is no longer any sin that can cause the Spirit to depart ever again. There is a sin which leads to death, but that is the sin of unbelief. God bless and thank you for your responses.
@hoseinexile07
@hoseinexile07 6 ай бұрын
@@gomezjkv Somehow a chunk of my previous response never made it in. Oops. Anyway, here are my answers: 1. No, the Lenten observances should continue all year, at least in spirit. As should Easter. And Christmas. Seasons of the liturgical year are to call us to holiness in distinct ways so that we can then apply the lessons we learn for the rest of the year. Just because a particular season emphasizes one aspect of the Christian life, doesn't mean you can't draw from it in others. 2. I actually agree with your definition about salvation except about it being ONLY an event where original sin is wiped away. Salvation is both an event that has a specific beginning point, but is a continual process that begins in baptism and continues as we become more like Christ, a goal we can't really ever reach while on earth. When I was a Calvinist we were always taught to separate justification and sanctification, but in the Catholic (and Orthodox) tradition, the terms seem more interchangeable. It is true that I have been justified by faith and not by works of the law, it is also true that I must work out my salvation with fear and trembling, and it is furthermore true that if I persevere until the end, then I will be saved. 3. As to the idea that once a Christian is saved, he or she cannot ever choose to forfeit that salvation through sin, this notion is directly contradicted by the Scriptures and by the Tradition of the Church both East and West. Jesus's parables of the vine and the branches and the sower and the seeds, as well as St. Paul's admonition in Romans 11 about the kindness of God remaining with believers so long as they remain in his love, reprove that idea. Anyway, this is far beyond the discussion of Lent, so take care.
@4everseekingwisdom690
@4everseekingwisdom690 6 ай бұрын
All Christianity is myth my friend in fact all religion are here's several examples 1) creation from the Sumerian enuma elish 2) Noah from numerous older flood Myths.. the summerian version is 1500 years older than Noah. the Hebrew version uses the summerian word for ark proving it was copied. this is in addition to numerous similarities.. summerian/akkadian/Babylonian versions all older. 3) in the Greek flood myth Zeus and Hermes go to earth in disguise to find a righteous person so they don't have to destroy it they find deucalion.. in the Bible the two gods are now two angels in disguise looking for a righteous man and they of course find lot destroying Sodom with fire. 4) Samson follows almost the same narrative as Hercules with the same obstacles where the Greek version favors 12 (labors) signifying the zodiac the Hebrew version favors 7 (7 bows 7 locks of hair etc) signifying the 7 planets of antiquity.. this is also why the menorah has 7 candles and was with 12 shewbreads jn the temple.. for the zodiac and the 7 planets.. this is also why there are 12 tribes, 12 judges, 12 prophets 12 imans in Islam 12 rishis in Hinduism and 12 apostles in fact whenever you see the number 12 it's an allegory for the zodiac but i digress.. 5) Moses shares many similarities with another famous leader the original baby in a basket sargon the great of akkad.. there's also a Vedic version where the baby karma is placed in a basket and sent down the river. 6) the book of Esther from the myth of Ishtar. the goddess Ishtar becomes Esther and the god Marduk becomes Mordecai.. 7) the Psalms can be traced to the ugaritic texts in fact many things in the Hebrew Bible can be traced to them and I'd recommend "the ugaritic texts and the Bible" by Jerry Neal which while not written for a lay person is still easily followed and provides a more detailed analysis of how we know that much is the Bible comes directly from ugaritic mythology including the origin of the god El the head of Canaanite pantheon who the Jews merged with the storm and yaweh that gives us the Jewish God of today.. There are also certain psalms that clearly have an Egyptian origin bringing up example number 8) bring up Psalm 104 and in another window bring up the Egyptian "hymn to aten" you'll see it's almost a word for word copy in some areas. . 9) Abraham and his wife Sarah from the Vedic bhrama and his wife saraswarti... there's also a tributary of the saraswarti River called ghaggar. Sarah had a midwife named Hagar what a coincidence..
@IRISHBee4
@IRISHBee4 6 ай бұрын
You are going to have to explain what you mean by myth. Not one of your points addresses the chief character of Christianity namely Jesus of Nazareth. Also, if God as Christians describe Him is real, we would expect to see many different cultures and peoples sharing similar stories about the fundamental questions that all humans search for the answers to in these different cultures which turns most of your objections into evidence for God. That is all addressing origins and stories. As for Christianity is a myth = not real, that is simply proven wrong by the existence of 2 billion or some Christians in the world. There are close to like 3 billion people who profess faith in the God of Abraham. You can dispute the truth value in each different religion’s claims but religion is a human universal. Religion is not myth. Religion is about the most real human thing in existence.
@4everseekingwisdom690
@4everseekingwisdom690 6 ай бұрын
@IRISHBee4 so I'm sorry your argument that Christianity is not based on mythology, which is what I said by the way, not that Christianity is a myth. But your argument is that because there's a bunch of people that believe it ? Everyone in the world can go crazy and think the world is flat, but it's still round . My point is that they are complex symbolic allegories that were never meant to be taken literally
@IRISHBee4
@IRISHBee4 6 ай бұрын
@@4everseekingwisdom690 your comment says “all Christianity is myth.” I did state in my response that I wasn’t positive what you meant by that and left my answer open to a couple possibilities. If you were saying that the religion is a myth, that is false by the fact that billions practice it. If you were saying that it is all based on a myth, then you need to address my point about Jesus. Almost all historians agree that Jesus is a real historical figure. He is the primary character of Christianity. As a Catholic, I do not have to take a fundamentalist reading of early Genesis or a highly literal reading of numbers, ages, hyperbolic language, etc. Therefore, I’m fine with saying large portions of Scripture can be read this way and that doesn’t threaten Christianity in the slightest. If you have specifics that you believe undermine key Christian doctrines, go ahead and present those.
@nics4967
@nics4967 6 ай бұрын
1. The omniscience fallacy is illogical, so reduce your claim to the strength of your human mind. 2. Similarities between x and a part of Christianity doesn't prove all of Christianity is a myth. Even many similarities. 3. Samson doesn't have 12 labours so not the same obstacles.
@nics4967
@nics4967 6 ай бұрын
​@@4everseekingwisdom690Sure, that is your belief that the NT are complex symbolic allegories never meant to be taken seriously. But that might be like thinking the earth is flat.
@ronselgrath1235
@ronselgrath1235 6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure where the idea that there was not a public fast day in Protestant lands come from. My Puritan ancestors had public fast days in Massachusetts Bay colony starting in 1670. Fast day as a public holiday was on the books in New England until the late 19th century. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Day
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