WELL DONE & Explained. INITIAL JUSTIFICATION + ONGOING SANCTIFICATION = HOPE for GLORIFICATION OR We were saved yesterday (via initial justification). We are being saved daily (via ongoing sanctification) We hope to be saved tomorrow (at judgment)

I never thought about this before, -because i was so busy in my pride, thinking that whatever made the most sense to me MUST be the truth- but it seems that the further back you go in traditions that have split from the Faith, the closer they are to the Original and True Catholic Faith. That shows me that once you deny the authority of the Church, you will only stray farther and farther from the Truth, with all kinds of wild and unbiblical traditions and doctrines.

At what point does the Protestant’s paradigm for identifying scripture fall on a Texas sharpshooter fallacy? As in, who decided that these are the criteria for determining the canon? I sometimes hear about “written by a prophet or apostle” “doesn’t contradict,” “tradition of being recognized in liturgy” etc. How can we be absolutely sure these criteria are without error (while some don’t even fit, who knows if the historical books of Kings were written by a prophet)? As was brought up, Catholics don’t have an infallible list of infallible teaching, but we have ways of identifying these teachings. Similarly, Catholics can admit that scripture had no solemnly defined canon for a long time, but the canon was present in sacred tradition the whole time, as tradition passes down the WHOLE of God’s revelation, while scripture passes down merely the written word. Perhaps it’s hard to talk about tradition because we don’t have “book 2” with traditions ABC clearly layed out, that’s not what tradition is, it’s more of a meta recognition of what has been passed down from the apostles, we can see testimony of it in the church fathers, and tradition includes the scripture (the book we call the Bible was passed down to us) but is not limited to it, it also includes interpretation, liturgy, worship, faith, preaching, example, etc. For something that involves more than the written word, should we not expect God to keep the tradition of his revelation free from all error, ie infallible?

jesus is not the messiah jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies the bible says the messiah will gather the exiles in deuteronomy 30:3 isaiah 11:11-12 jeremiah 30:3, 32:37 ezekiel 11:17, 36:24 the bible says the messiah will rebuild the temple in isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20 ezekiel 37:26-27 malachi 3:4 zechariah 14:20-21 the bible says when the messiah comes there will be world peace and a complete end to war in micah 4:1-4 hoseah 2:20 isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18 the bible says the messiah will bring universal knowledge of god in zechariah: 3:9 8:23, 14:9, 16 isaiah 45:23, 66:23; jeremiah 31:33 ezekie​l 38:23; psalm 86:9 zephaniah 3:9. jesus didn't do any of these things, so jesus can't be the messiah.

Lord, I tried to tell me that your word was not enough! ?????

Only two in human history have had Divine DNA: Jesus and His mother. Look up "fetal microchimerism" - mothers carry the DNA, living human cells - of their children in their bodies for the remainder of their lives. God would not permit His Holy One to see decay in the grave (Psalm 16:10). How fitting it is that the "Woman" who was created by Jesus to bear the Savior and who carries His Divine DNA in her body, would also not be permitted to suffer decay in the grave. Thus, her assumption is entirely fitting and consistent with God's love and mercy. That, and there is zero physical evidence of her body.

catholic is anti christ... first and foremost it is not simon peter the apostle is their first pope... its the sorcere simon magus aka simon pater in the acts 8:14-23.... simon peter is assigned to the jews and paul is the apostle assigned to the gentiles... and one thing more simon peter never been to rome if you are reading your bible you know why becaoz peter never become an apostle to gentiles. so this first pope peter this anti christ taking is not apostle peter but the sorcerer simon magus aka simon pater. it you guys will read romans and the writing of apostle peter you know that this anti christ catholic is a lie and demonic who are cloth in white....

Didn’t know Shane Gillis was a Baptist

Very satanic cult believing idiots of sola scriptura a man made tradition invented by a devil possessed man, have been doing all sorts of nonsense in order to destroy the Church of saints that Jesus established under the stewardship of Peter but nothing happened to it for the last two thousand years and will remain till Jesus comes back because Jesus himself promised to Peter saying " gates of hell will not prevail against it"

1:10:01 James White's argumentation form of attacking the Catholic Church is weird because it doesn't prove Sola Scriptura. It's almost like he doesn't understand how debates work. When taking the affirmative position you must prove your position. His line of argumentation could work if the debate was flipped and Alex was arguing from the affirmative position.

Did you believe in the perpetual virginity of Joseph? Paul says Mary would have defrauded Joseph.1 Corinthians 7:5 (KJV) Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

If the Church is infallible, why has she changed her views on faith and morals ? I'm not talking about the "development of doctrine" . I'm talking about significant changes.

Council of Rome was in 385 Synod of Hippo was 405

The difference is your are simping off them, not them off you.. now go pray to mary

Protestants must then have to admit ( but James White never will admit), that they can never know with infallible certitude what Jesus Christ meant by "this IS MY BODY ", or who the rock is in Matthew 16,,or who the Woman is in Revelation 12, since Scripture ALONE is infallible, thus making all their interpretations, FALLIBLE! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

"The words bind and loose mean: Whomever you exclude from your communion, will be excluded from communion with God; whomever you receive anew into your communion, God will welcome back into his. Reconciliation with the Church is inseparable from reconciliation with God. (CCC 1445)" Why can't it also mean the teaching authority? OHH, The dilemma of the Protestant either or. For the Catholic It means both.

Pope Francis explains in The Joy of the Gospel, "In all the baptized, from first to last, the sanctifying power of the Spirit is at work, impelling us to evangelization. The people of God is holy thanks to this anointing, which makes it infallible in credendo. This means that it does not err in faith, even though it may not find words to explain that faith. The Spirit guides it in truth and leads it to salvation. As part of his mysterious love for humanity, God furnishes the totality of the faithful with an instinct of faith- sensus fidei- which helps them to discern what is truly of God (Evangelii Gaudium 119)."

Pax Christi!

Catholicism: a Middle Ages form of Christianity (circa 1500) appeals not to people with intelligence, but people who think God is all about sitting in a pew once a week and watching priests do ceremony. No thinking, no doing, just a complete surrender to priests! How does charity, love, and acceptance fit into this religious consciousness??? Yes, Catholicism might have St. Vincent de Paul Society to do charity work, but unlike most Protestant sects, Catholic do not individually feel compelled to work in charity kitchens because they are saved already! Living in a Catholic cocoon: avoiding sin, letting priests have complete control of their lives is what Catholicism is all about!

Catholics should use more precise arguments against White's definition of Sola Scriptura. Ecumenical Councils anathematized those who rejected dogmatic definitions. That's an example of an infallible rule of faith outside Scripture. Also the Fathers argued that Scripture and Tradition had equal force (St Basil, De Spiritu Sancto 27:66) or that Church Tradition is worthy of implicit faith (St John Chrysostom in 2 Thess 2: 14). Also the near universal acceptance of St Hippolytus' The Apostolic Tradition shows that Apostolic Tradition was not simply a synonym for the Gospel, as White seems to argue.

From my experience protestants claim sola scriptura but they don't seem to actually practice it. 1.) if scripture is good enough on its own and no church body, leaders, or anyone else needs to interpret it properly than you wouldn't have thousands of denominations that have wildly different views and interpretations of scripture, you'd just have one protestant church that all believes the same thing hypothetically. 2.) They wouldn't go to their pastors, parents, etc for advice or questions on scripture to better understand it, they would just simply understand it on its own. 3.) Protestant pastors wouldn't bring up or rely on other Protestant leaders from the past and their interpretations or views on scripture in their sermons to better elaborate and explain scripture, they would just quote scripture that's that. Because that's the only thing you need and nothing else would be necessary

This will pair well with the video I’m releasing today 😂

The Protestant doesn't seem to be aware of the nuances. Why wasn't the distinction between material and formal suffiency fleshed out? Great conversation guys👍

My biggest question in this debate is this: WHY are inerrant and infallible treated as synonymous? It seems far more accurate that infallible means that it’s authoritative and will not fail - it won’t lead the church into error. So even if it makes a mistake, it won’t lead us to damnation or apostasy. So we can safely submit to the church’s authority and trust that authority and if we are in union with her, we do not need to fear our separation from Christ… because she IS in union with HIM.

Great convo. Y’all should do the legendary debate between James White and the illustrious Gerry Matatics (circa 1990) 😂

Protestants know sola scriptura is a false doctrine but they wanna stick it knowing it’s false. When they use 2 timothy 3:16 they see what isn’t there. It says all scriptures and not only is profitable which means useful that the man of god. Timothy was a bishop in Ephesus and not a lay man. He has his hands laid on by paul. Also when they bring that up i tell them to go to Ephesians 4 11-14. This letter was send to the same place. To the church in Ephesus. This is where you see what Jesus left in place. Verse 14 is Protestantism in a nutshell. Always point to acts 15 as well the first council of Jerusalem . If the apostles used sola scriptura every gentile would have to be circumcised lol. No the apostles didn’t take out their bibles. They made an authoritative decision.

You mean the same Catholic church who’s leader, and so-called Vicar of Christ, says it’s OK to bless homosexual marriage? You mean that church? That apostasy church?

Venial sins aren't necessarily "not grave matter". They might be of grave matter, but not done with free will or knowingly.

I really can’t understand at all of why there is a Baptist church,because as I understand of what was said by John the Baptist is that he John the Baptist must decrease and Jesus must increase which was literally fulfilled when John was losing many many followers of him because Jesus gave authority and holy Impowerment to his Apostles who were doing the actual baptizing as scriptures reveal plus John spoke in all truth that he must decrease which was fulfilled when he was put in prison and then beheaded by Herod

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The worst stuff is right here at my senior center. Bible devoted Protestants sneer at us Catholics because they think knowing Christ via bible reading is far superior to us deluded Catholics who they think has very limited bible reading. Naturally my degree of upsetness comes from the Holy Eucharist. When these Protestants make snide remarks to me about my faith I can feel Christ in me making a mental and spiritual agitation. In other words how dare these Protestant jerks denigrate a living Christ in me. Yes I defend the Holy Eucharist. What I’m saying is this upset posture comes from me upholding the real Body of Christ in the bread and wine. These Protestants have their nerve saying “just read the Bible” when there major sections in the gospels they trash right off like the”eat my body” stuff. I was raised with virulently anti catholic relatives. I’m sick of their ignorant take on the gospel.

The worst part is it encourages Christians to be individualistic. Christian faith by definition can’t be individualistic. Like duh!

If Durban is in any associated with dr James White than Durban is a jerk. Must be. Unfortunately I’ve listened to dr James White debate what I thought was earnest interest. I also listened to videos fr white has released. He spews this weird hate, hate, hate, hate on anything catholic.

Our Blessed Mother's bones were never found. Therefore, She was assumed body and soul into Heaven.

If scripture’s were the sole authority of Jesus Christ then people would believe that Jesus Christ gave full authority to his Apostles to FEED AND INSTRUCT THE FLOCK OF HIS ONE TRUE CHURCH STARTED UPON THE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES ON PENTECOST

I don’t know if anyone notices that in the scriptures there’s passages that speak and reveal how Protestantism started, and it’s when Jesus said to his Apostles beware that you not be led astray for I tell you that many will come teaching in my name say I am he the Christ and teach many in my name and lead them astray DO NOT FOLLOW THEM how much more clearer could Jesus Christ have’d made it of what humans would go through which has caused immense differences understanding interpretations and beliefs.WHOOO WEEE WHAT IS THE HUMAN RACE UP AGAINST WOE WOE WOE

St. Paul warned us all, "DO NOT GO BEYOND/EXCEED WHAT IS WRITTEN." (ref. 1 Corin. 4:6)... if we do, God's CURSE (Anathema/Eternal Condemnation) will FALL upon us... (ref. Galatians 1:8)... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen...

The PROTESTANT Reformers were Actually the PRODIGAL SONS of the Roman Catholic Church... No wonder they ALWAYS somehow came back to the R.C.C. Doctrines/Dogmas not WRITTEN in the Complete Holy Scriptures provided by God to the Faithful Saints... The Holy Scripture said, "They are like DOGS, who came back to eat from their own vomit/puke"... (ref. Proverbs 26:11 / 2 Peter 2:22)... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.

Why does St. Paul say to Hold firmly to the Spoke/Oral Tradition and Written Tradition (ref. 2 Thessa 2:15)?... because St. Paul knew that he would not be able to see the WRITTEN Tradition be completed... St. Paul was beheaded around 67 A.D.... the Final Completion of the Written Word of God (Inspire Holy Scriptures) was after the Gospel of John and Revelation that were distributed in the Early 7 Churches of God in Asia Minor at the end of the 1st Century around 110 A.D. . The Complete WRITTEN Inspired Holy Scriptures became the STANDARD of the Early 7 Churches in Asia Minor, profitable for TEACHING Doctrines, for REPROOFING, for CORRECTING, and for INSTRUCTION in Righteousness...etc." (ref. 2 Timothy 3:16)... Take Note:... the Oral/Spoken Tradition and the Completely Inspired Written Tradition must be UNITED as ONE and THE SAME... like God the Father with His Son (Word/Christ Jesus) and the Holy Spirit... So, therefore, as long as the Oral/Spoken Tradition does not contradict with the Complete Written Tradition, that is fine/ok to practice by Christians... However, if it does contradict, the Written Tradition must overrule, supersede, and stop/cease the practice of that particular Oral/Spoken Tradition... WHY?... because that is GOD'S WORDS, WILL, and TRUTH... it must be WRITTEN down in Context and in Meaning, and not by/through specific word/s only... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.

The PROTESTANT Reformers were Actually the PRODIGAL SONS of the Roman Catholic Church... No wonder they ALWAYS somehow came back to the R.C.C. Doctrines/Dogmas not WRITTEN in the Complete Holy Scriptures provided by God to the Faithful Saints... The Holy Scripture said, "They are like DOGS, who came back to eat from their own vomit/puke"... (ref. Proverbs 26:11 / 2 Peter 2:22)... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.

Why does St. Paul say to Hold firmly to the Spoke/Oral Tradition and Written Tradition (ref. 2 Thessa 2:15)?... because St. Paul knew that he would not be able to see the WRITTEN Tradition be completed... St. Paul was beheaded around 67 A.D.... the Final Completion of the Written Word of God (Inspire Holy Scriptures) was after the Gospel of John and Revelation that were distributed in the Early 7 Churches of God in Asia Minor at the end of the 1st Century around 110 A.D. . The Complete WRITTEN Inspired Holy Scriptures became the STANDARD of the Early 7 Churches in Asia Minor, profitable for TEACHING Doctrines, for REPROOFING, for CORRECTING, and for INSTRUCTION in Righteousness...etc." (ref. 2 Timothy 3:16)... Take Note:... the Oral/Spoken Tradition and the Completely Inspired Written Tradition must be UNITED as ONE and THE SAME... like God the Father with His Son (Word/Christ Jesus) and the Holy Spirit... So, therefore, as long as the Oral/Spoken Tradition does not contradict with the Complete Written Tradition, that is fine/ok to practice by Christians... However, if it does contradict, the Written Tradition must overrule, supersede, and stop/cease the practice of that particular Oral/Spoken Tradition... WHY?... because that is GOD'S WORDS, WILL, and TRUTH... it must be WRITTEN down in Context and in Meaning, and not by/through specific word/s only... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.

Absence of body and relics, presence of biblical hints, dormition stories and references in old church liturgies... all this must be taken into account...

Christians should be anti-Catholic. Let's leave out the titles. You're either "born...of God"/"born again" - i.e. a Christian, or you are not.(John 1:13; 3:3) If you're Catholic, you are not a Christian. You cannot be "reborn" by water Baptism because water Baptism "delivers no one."(Catechism 980/978) There is no "grace" in water Baptism. "Yet the grace of Baptism delivers no one from all the weakness of nature" - i.e. sin.(978) That is a cheap, man-made grace because it doesn't deliver anyone from their sins. Only faith in Jesus Christ alone delivers sinners! He gives the "living water" the "Holy Spirit" to "those [who believe] in Him" summed up in John 7: "If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.” But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified" - John 7:37-39 Since Catholics trust in their "sacred Tradition" and "Magisterium" for salvation, they cannot be considered brothers in Christ.(Catechism 95) According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the "Catholic Church is necessary for salvation."(846) Baptism (which "delivers no one") and Penance to a sinner (a priest) are "necessary for salvation."(980) And Jesus Christ said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."(John 14:6) Peter, the so-called first Pope, said of "the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth...Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”(Acts 4:10&12)

I've heard it said that no apostolic church has her relics or has ever claimed to have her relics.

Debate Jeff .....

Durbin still hasn't figure out what the "Works of the Law" mentioned by St-Paul refer to... *The Works of the Mosaic Law, through which those under the past covenant were "justified".* It should be obvious though, when Paul said Circumcision was one of those "Works". And of course, we aren't "saved" through the Mosaic Law, because Christ's death on the Cross made these Laws obsolete. *Soooo simple to understand just by reading scripture...* but I guess reading scripture with protestant "pre-installed" lenses makes them blind to the Truth, as obvious as it could be.