Listening to our beloved Reformed brothers can be so frustrating at times. He has to wildly overexaggerate and insult the Catholic understanding of the plain meaning of James 2, saying it's just so obvious that it doesn't mean what it seems so unambiguously to say. Reformed do this by playing up "it's just obvious if you know the context", but it's actually made worse by the fact that "justify" can't possibly mean "justify before men, not God" in James, because the example he uses is of Abraham on top of a mountain with only one other human who could know what he was doing. Durbin even has the gall to explicitly state that James is saying that Abraham was justified before Isaac, not God. I understand that our Protestant brothers have to take that sort of interpretation (I was there once too), but it just gets old when they also sling insults that you must be stupid and bad if you don't buy their incredibly stretched, theologically-motivated interpretation.

I can’t count the number of my non-catholic friends who grew up on anti-catholic rhetoric in their churches. Even as an adult in my 40’s, I had colleagues who were virulently anti-catholic and called me a statue worshipper. I grew up in Catholicism and never once heard my priest tearing down or criticizing other christians. Never! I detest those who tear down the Catholic Church. Sickening.

I wish Jeff Durbin would do some official debates with Catholics. He shows that he really doesnt understand Catholicism.

Man made doctrine? Like Calvinism? All Protestant denominations are man made traditions.

I see the seething copy/paste crowd has arrived. Guess you struck a nerve.

Great work brother. I'm excited for you in a few years I can see myself listening to you from Catholic Answers. God truly is protecting His True Church.

This video is incredible, especially since the source video only came out about 36 hours ago.

Jeff Durbin is like the boss on a video game where you debate youth pastors.

You beat Trent Horn to it!

I am grateful for your ministry and you have an excellent way of conveying the message in a way I can understand. I’m a new catholic of 2yrs having been to many different Protestant denominations and I’m glad I’m now a Roman Catholic. The amount of persecution me and my son have had from Protestants have been challenging since becoming Catholics. I was brought up and taught anti catholic teaching I’m glad I’ve reached the truth despite the barriers.

As one who spent over 30 years of adult life in four different Reformed denomination (we moved a lot), I can say that their knowledge of church history, prior to the reformation, is sorely lacking.

I think the best argument for Catholic Tradition is, it (The Church) came before scripture, and in scripture, God gave his authority to the Church: what you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven, what you loose shall be loosed in Heaven. Great video, Brayden! I just listened to the Cordial Catholic with Dr Burgsma, and they speak on the authority of His Church on the latest video... God bless you and your family!

Always love it when they say ‘Protestants know because Scripture is inspired’ but how do they know Scripture is inspired? How do they know the correct inspired books are in the Bible and the ones omitted aren’t the actual inspired books? They never address that because they can’t as they have no way of saying the Canon is the inspired word of God without having to appeal to the Catholic Church

All Calvinists think Catholics have a false gospel, but they treat John MacArthur as the Pope.

This was an awesome response to Jeff! Do you have a Twitter? We just shared it on our Twitter, but wanted to tag you as well, if you are on there.

Wow! You are becoming a bona fide Catholic Apologist. Way to go! Am excited for your growth in the faith. God bless you and your work.

Greetings! First, a big *Thank You* for making this response video! You saved me the trouble of making my own, and you nailed all the crucial points -- spot on. Also, for your reference, and for anyone else who happens to read this comment, the response below is what I left on Durbin's video. It includes a link to deep dive video I recently released about "justification" and why various Reformation based views are a vast departure from core Christian theology. Feel free to refer to this video as necessary. In the meantime -- and again -- you did a super job in your response! We should connect sometime! My response to Mr Durbin: "A few thoughts here -- being that much of Jeff Durbin's phrasing about Catholic Christian belief ranges from somewhat wrong to flat-out wrong. For example, Catholics do NOT have "two epistemological standards." We have one: God's revelation. From there, God ensures His revelation by giving us a deposit of faith*. That deposit of faith has two main wings: Scripture and Tradition. Take the Bible, for example. For almost 400 years, there was no canonized corpus of New Testament Scripture -- nor the entire Bible as we have it today. Therefore, how did most early Christian converts come to *know the Word of God? And how did they come to understand it? (See Acts 8:27-35 as one, very common example). Through the Tradition / through the Church that carefully determined which books were, by the power of the Holy Spirit, inspired by God's revelation, we have the Bible. Also through Tradition / through the Church, we have a fully developed theology on the Trinity, Original Sin, and so much more that falls right in line with Scripture. The point being is that Scripture and Tradition do not run in parallel. Rather, they are fully intertwined and point together to a single TRUTH. Anyhow, I happen to have a video that takes an investigative type approach to the "justification" debate and its history: I explore two of the main, yet strikingly different, positions that Martin Luther and John Calvin pushed during the early roots of the Reformation, as well as what is the actual Catholic teaching on this subject. Above all, I tie in a word that is crucial to Christian theology, yet is often buried underneath endless debates about God's revelation and how salvation is justified. That word is COVENANT. When we all understand and embrace what Covenant means -- and that Christians are still in covenant with God -- then the Catholic position becomes clear as a cloudless, sunny day: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtV9Zdpovd6Ue4U.html Also, a fun fact (so to speak) about the problem with using click-bait titles such as "Roman Catholicism's False Gospel": Roman Catholicism is a Rite within the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church. The Catholic Church has 23 Rites (churches that comprise the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church): one Roman Catholic Rite and *22 Eastern Catholic Rites*. Yes, the Pope sits in Saint Peter's chair in Rome; he is the Holy See; he is in the overall successive line of Popes since Peter. And yes, the Roman Catholic Rite is significantly the largest of all 23 rites. However, the Catholic Church -- as Ignatius first called it in ~107 AD -- is the universal Christian Church of now many Rites that are in communion with the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church. In other words, where is the video on "Byzantine Catholicism's False Gospel"? Now, if Durbin and crew are simplifying terms to make an overall theological case, that is one thing. But the problem with Durbin's approach to criticizing "Rome* -- and this includes James White's approach as well -- is they are strictly using Protestant lenses to explain Catholic theology and ecclesiology. And at the risk of sounding snarky, even James White's sister, Patty Bonds, who became Catholic, once called out White for attacking Catholic beliefs / positions that simply do not exist or are severely flawed. The same goes with Mr. Durbin. Lastly, always keep in mind that if Durbin's positions on Christian theology are in fact correct, and if Sola Scriptura is the ultimate authority for reconciling theological differences, then why are there scores of Protestant denominations that disagree on, well, Christian theology? It's what I call the "Martin Luther Complex": the idea that any random Christian can brand themselves as an authority on Christian theology and then perpetuate it as truth. Well, scores of denominations later, Protestants are still continually divided on core truths. Food for thought." *End response*

We made the Bible, not to compete with us, but to tell the story of the Church.

Dude you just became catholic and are already an apologetics force to recon with. Trent horn would be proud.

My absolute favorite part was Jeff's part on the imputation. It was hilarious. So, God who is just, took out the wrath due to humanity on the most innocent ever and this was as Jeff said "So God would remain just". Hahahaha . Words have meaning and meanings have consequences....but who am I 😅

I noticed the Bible uses marriage often as a metaphor of HIs relationship with humanity. Marriage is a private declaration of love, public declaration of love, and a lifestyle of fidelity to grow and protect that love. All three things must be done for your marriage to be valid. Salvation is a private declaration of faith (prayer), public declaration of faith (baptism), and a lifestyle of fidelity and to grow and protect that faith. All three things must be done for your salvation to be valid.

In Jeff Durbins defense, he's wrong about a lot of stuff.

This is a great video. I know a lot of Christians who struggle with the Calvinist position.

@thecatechumen i thank you for doing this rebuttal on @Jeff's video its much needed personally i think we can't be quite we need brother's strong in our faith to be able to correct and teach others thank you and i pray that Jeff truly listens to this video And if he doesn't, I know it'll help others. Who are truly seeking the truth. Thank you, your brother Robert from Puerto Rico.🇵🇷

I honestly feel bad for Durbin: his entire Christian walk has been completely molded and set by the mind of James White.

Idk how Protestants can't see in Acts 15, that the 1st church council did not use sola scriptura, it was the HolySpirit just has Acts 15 states. And I was a former protestant, but when this was pointed out to me, I had to admit that they did not use sola scriptura. So im in a online debate right now, & I was using Acts 15, to show there was new teachings, & they didn't use sola scriptura. But idk maybe im doing something wrong here, or they have hardened their heart, & don't want to admit that Acts 15 is a new teaching, given to the church, just like John 16:12-13; states that there are new teachings, outside of scripture alone .. Any have some advice?

Every refutation of protestantism can be summed up by reading the whole chapter or book that they're quoting to try and prove the assumptions of their twisted man-made system.

Great video. Thank you for making this. I was pretty frustrated when Jeff was reading one or two sentences and ignoring the rest of the works he was citing.

Jeff Durbin is awesome, and we should pray for him to receive the grace to come to full communion with Christ's One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

You're doing such a good job bro, thanks! Some of your videos are going into my playlist for references.

Watching reformed folks try to validate their positions is like watching the alphabet people try to validate theirs. And then the comments section under their videos is exactly the same. You have to be fully committed to that world view for it to make any sense

Good video my kind Gent. Keep them coming. You should call him out and hve a Lil debate or even a dialog with this Durbin Lad. Maybe he will learn a Lil something fr the TRUE CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH. ☝🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻📖🍷🍞⛪️✝️🕊🫶🏻🕯📿

Protestants propose the doctrine of Justification by faith alone so as to make Jesus owe them salvation for their faith in Christ's redemptive work. In this process, they try to drag Catholics to argue with Christ to grant them salvation by right for having faith. Well prots, we don't want to reason with Jesus by making our case that he ought to give us salvation because we had faith. No. We will rather appeal to Jesus to show us mercy because we are not worthy to justify ourselves before him. We know our faith is not above board. We know our works are not above board. We know our weaknesses and shortcomings and so, we will rather appeal to Christ for his mercy.

The strongest rebuttal of the Reformed Protestant heresy comes from an in depth study of the long, extended process leading up to the canonization of the sacred texts we now call “the Bible.” Reformed scholars like to ignore this process, use it selectively to their advantage, and suppress facts which do not help their position. After all, they merely “assume” that the Catholic Church got the canon “mostly” right. Like Luther, they conveniently exclude the Deutero-Canonical books of the Old Testament. This is done for theological reasons, of course. Nothing is accidental, folks! Proceed with caution when listening to any Reformed Protestant. 😊😊😊😊

I also notice that Jeff Durbin speaks very little about “repentance” and “contrition” when he discusses justification by faith. Since faith is a “work of Love” (Galatians 5: 6, Acts 2: 38, Luke 23: 41-43), it is improper to speak of biblical faith without repentance. Catholics also refer to this as contrition or sorrow for sins committed. 😊😊😊😊

Notice also that Jesus isn't condemning the notion of sacred tradition when he says, "‘The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it; but do not do as they do, for they do not practice what they teach." (Matt23:2-3)

Hi Brayden, love your videos 🫶🏼 I’m a new Catholic 🥰 could you please do a video on the involvement on the Vatican with protecting Nazis after the war? I’ve heard a lot about this recently but always from anti Catholic sources. Please help me to understand the situation ❤ Thank you and God bless you, your work and your family 🙏🏼

Is your show available in Podcast format through Apple or Spotify?

You are gifted young man. May God Bless you and your Family.

Great work! Ooh I used the "w word".

Hey! You should do a video in response to those "unbiblical" claims jeff makes. You'd help a lot of people out including myself!

This is a really high level engagement of this material. Very thorough and enlightening. Thanks for your work

Well done. Would the continuing growth in our justification be described well by using the term sanctification, loving God in our essence?

Thanks for doing this

It's ironic he bases his arguments on what is found in Scripture, but it was by the Catholic Church's AUTHORITY that discerned with help from the Holy Spirit which letters were Divinely INSPIRED. 😏 The mental gymnastics and twisting themselves in human pretzels would hysterical if was ever demonstrated in the physical world. 😂 Mother Mary pray for us 🙏🙏🙏

Thank you for this video and citing your work. I wish you all the best.

Jeff Durbin also needs to make distinctions between "works of law" "works" and "good works" Several times in Paul's letters the Apostole has judaizers in mind but never pelagians. It is only by grace that good works are possible.

Audio is missing... Anyone else having this issue or is it just me?

Don’t understand why most Catholics don’t believe this anymore, it’s crystal clear. It’s necessary for salvation to believe this. Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.

Thank you so much. God bless you Brother

I am at the point where I believe that the great falling away spoken of in the Bible was, or at least had its beginning, in the protestant reformation.

On behalf of protestant christians, I apologise for the overwhelming number of terribly dogmatic, arrogant, uninformed protestant apologists who misunderstand, strawman or demonise Catholicism. Its embarrasing lol Pray for us

Hey brother, just one tiny critique. Only cause it’s a pet peeve of mine. The Catholic Church isn’t a denomination. It’s the one holy Catholic and apostolic church. Denominations are essentially sects. And sectarianism only exists among heretics. We being Catholic are the opposite of a sect of denomination. I love your stuff! I too am a former baptist and I really enjoy your material.

Nimrod beard movement.

Durbin does a clear concise job when speaking of Catholicism

44:45 I would say in initial justification we would need repentance as well as faith? Could I say that and still have a orthodox/right understanding? We would need repentance in addition to faith when it comes to our re-justification after committing mortal sin. The difference is the sacrament is now Reconciliation instead of Baptism. Thoughts or insights anybody?

If you believe in the preaching of the apostles as stated then you are probably trying to follow the gospel of the kingdom as does the RCC. Remember - Peter never knew the meaning of the cross nor did he preach the cross for salvation prior to Paul. Bible fact

I cannot believe he said that because the Church Fathers are not infallible they contradict themselves. This is the most obvious case of confirmation I've ever seen. When the Church fathers affirm my teaching then they are speaking infallibly (repeating what God has revealed would be infallible to that end) otherwise they are limited by men. Whereas a Catholic understanding would analyze what the fathers say in charity and compare what they say to Scripture, Tradition, and councils to confirm that this is an advance in doctrine. Durbin isn't doing that. He begins with his interpretation.

Great video as always

would love to hear you defend the Sacrifice of the Mass using the letter to the Hebrews (without background music, please)

Catholicism is NOT a denomination. It is a religion !"Denomination" refers to different Protestant ecclesial communities.

This was a very solid response with a ton of great points. If I could ask for one point of clarification from you: It seems like you're saying (by implication 1:17:35) "protestants believe that we can be justified and not changed". But it seems in every place like protestants are saying that "we are justified by faith alone but that faith will never be alone" By that they mean, saving faith always produces good works if it is real saving faith. So I am supposing that they don't say that justification is not transformative but that justification is the springboard of sanctification. dont say this as something that settles the denominational argument, I am just asking for clarification. initial justification -> increasing justification justification -> necessary sanctification Additionally, I have heard it said that the difference is what you're calling the increase of justification Protestants call sanctification pointing to Hebrews 12:14. I think these videos are great and that if it wasn't for some other doctrinal differences, on the doctrine of Salvation, RC, EO, and Protestants could really zero the gap. However I do believe that the other doctrines are not insignificant I am just musing I guess.

Good stuff brother! The future of Catholic apologetics is bright with people like you!

Durbin and his Calvinist camp, are wrong about a heap of things, not just Catholicism. No surprise that they get basic church history and teachings completely wrong.

If they don't agree with the Magisterium's teachings, they ought to consider reviewing the bible and perhaps re-write it. If they accept that the bible is inspired by God, then they must reconsider listening to the Magisterium since it's they who compiled it. From my perspective, they just don't want to be under an authority. If so, then don't go to university, don't listen to the government, don't listen to anyone save for yourselves and the "voice of god".

Let's be honest! Reform Theology began in the 16th century with the following foundation statement by John Calvin: "All are NOT created on EQUAL terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestined to life or to death" (The INSTITUTES of the Christian Religion, bk. 3, ch. 21, para. 5). So, is the God of John 3 16 really compatible with the above obscene 16th century nonsense which makes God out to be a psychopathic immoral monster? ___________

So what is the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the Roman Catholic Church?

So after you receive justification as a free gift of Grace through faith, you grow in, not earn more, justification. Since he perfects you, redeeming you, yourself in reality, and that growth is also a grace of God as he matures you in faith, hope, and charity. Being made that which we have been forinsically declared. Is that a strictly accurate summery?

I feel like the big misunderstanding between Protastants and Catholics is what is the "law" that is cited so often. Protestants seem to insist the law is the moral law generally, even though in context it is clearly the mosaic temporal law. Maybe this is unfair but this is the impression I get.

The friendly Bible tells Durbin that the Church, not the Bible, "is the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth".

In 13:45 caller asks about traditions that “depart from what I can find in scripture” in other words, are not in scripture. 13:58 Jeff Durbin changes it to “seem to contradict the word of God” and then in his arguments he takes an example from Genesis that is directly contradicting the word of God, he never brings any example where Catholic teaching contradicts the word of God.

The free gift is actually God's unending abundant grace which results in justification and sanctification.

AND JESUS SAITH "For the Son of man shall come in the Glory of His Father with His angels: and then will He render to every man according to his works" AND HIS DISCIPLES REPLIED "What say Ye? Works? Sola Fide, ye papist heretic! REFORMATION!"

I think we need to be clear about the definition of terms. Protestantism is made up of many denominations. Catholicism is not a denomination. Our faith is very different from those of Protestants who ultimately and formally reject Christ's Church and therefore reject God. There is enough evidence for those who are open to the Truth.

It's odd that Protestants dont recognize the similarities between the Reformation and the fall in the Garden of Eden. In both situations God creates a place of safety for Man. A place where Man can commune with God. God simply states, you must respect my authority or risk being excommunicated. In the Garden of Eden, Satan comes in and says, "Do you really believe in that authority? Come on, don't submit to that, because it's not even true. You know what's true. Just trust your own understanding of things." Then in the Reformation, Satan comes along again and says, "Do you really believe in that authority? Come on don't submit to that, because it's not even true. You know what's true. Just trust your own understanding of things." That's one of the blind spots in Protestantism. They don't see that at the center of their belief is self-interpretation. It's not submission to the word of God, it's submission to their interpretation of the word of God. That's why we see so many Protestant denominations. Fragmentation of ecclesial communities is the logical conclusion of a doctrine like Sola Scriptura, because each community can claim to have the real truth, and they need to only appeal to their self-interpretation as the final authority. It's similar to the fragmentation we see in the secular world when it comes to creating laws using the U.S. Constitution. Depending on how you interpret the document, you can come away with wildy different understandings. And this is where the authority of the Catholic Church serves as a proof why it is truly Christ's Church and the only ecclesial community with the fullness of truth. If there are questions, the church uses its God-given authority to provide an answer. It's like God knew that without this authoritative body, Man would just mess things up if left to his own devices.

Please do respond when there are created confusions.. Thank you God bless you

Compare Romans 2: 5-8 and James 2: 24. Paul and James AGREE that justification is by FAITH and WORKS…. but never by “faith alone.” 👍. John 15: 1-10. When Paul is addressing justifying faith and works (of the Mosaic law) in Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, and elsewhere he is referring to the Jewish prejudice that one is saved by being circumcised and by their ethnic identification as an Israelite. Martin Luther misread the texts of Romans and Galatians because he failed to grasp the context of both epistles. 👍. The Catholic Church has ALWAYS taught we are saved by GRACE ALONE through (the work of) FAITH and not as a result of the good WORKS OF THE MOSAIC LAW. No one can “work” their way to Heaven by their own merits. 😊. Galatians 5: 6.

Why is it that reformed biblical Christians always want an open dialogue with Catholics and Catholics don't want too. In todays society conservatives always want to have an open dialogue while the other side always seems to want to be an a echo Chamber much like here. I encouraging Catholics to have more open dialogue with someone like jeff durbin

Good job. The Burger King seems to hate everyone.

For as much as they tell people what Catholics teach, it seems they dont have access to a computer or a library card.

Best apologetics vid I have seen for some time.

Jeff durbin is a pressup apologist (as I am but I’m eastern Catholic) so the question I want to ask hi. Is “how do you know what scripture is”he assumes the Bible but we shouldn’t let him borrow from a Christian and Catholic worldview. He would have to stand on the Churches infallible authority to get his Bible and then turn around and say we are wrong about the canon LOL

Jeff can determine the meaning of scripture, Jeff can correct and criticize the Church, Jeff denies to the Church powers Jeff believes he has. Jeff thinks he is the pope, and magisterium. Jeff advances nonsense.

Can I be catholic and not pray to marry or saints?

Theres another channel that mentions the issue with James 2 (at 26:00) its not a bad argument, in fact its a bit destroying one, why? because if you want to clarify why it means what you want to say it means, if you give it that interpretation, you have to go make a exegesis extra scriptura, and thats not wrong at all, but it is non sola scriptura and if it is non sola scriptura the claim of sola fidei its also refuted by its own logic. Its not about winning debates or arguments. But definitely its something that its self defeating, because if i were to say what this argument means, its that i must accept and reject at the same time their main authority (the bible)

Calvinism just seems to me like an edgy tier misanthropic rant, the more you demean humanity the more they seem to praise you.

Why are so many protestants repeating the same lame objections and missrepresentations over and over again

Protestants dismiss Catholic Tradition but they also have a tradition: Sola Scriptura.

To begin with, his shirt is wrong.

There is a simple solution to raising understanding and echumenical dialogue... Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It will teach you the at the very least the basics of Catholicism. I did this as a non-denominational protestant (Baptist) and am now am a confessional Lutheran with a greater understanding and respect for Catholicism, to the point where I would rather be Catholic or Orthodox than any low church protestant.

Evidence of the shift from scripture to tradition found in scripture? Luke 4:21, "And he began to say to them: This day is fulfilled this scripture in your ears." May God bless the USA and the world thereafter.

His reading of Romans makes the parable of the talents Jesus gives senseless. But for the Catholic it makes perfect sense. The gift is given, but if you don’t steward the gift, it will be taken away. Protestants have no concept for that. If you have the gift, that’s it, that parable has to drive them crazy. Or like everything they just twist it into, “uhh it’s uhh just the fruits, those that were uhhh given the gift weren’t actually given it.”

Jeff might want to read Genesis 12-14 to learn of all the ‘works’ Abraham did before being declared justified in Genesis 15:6… In (Genesis 12-14) he makes two geographical moves, builds an altar and calls on the Lord, divides land with Lot to end quarrels, pays tithes, and refuses goods from the King of Sodom to rely instead on God's providence. He did all these works as an old man. It was certainly a struggle. After all these actions of faith, then he's "declared righteous" (Genesis 15:6).

Catholicism is the faith. Protestantism contains the denominations.

I back up jeff on this one part of my family was Catholic and i see contradictions between Catholics and Christianainty

Is there an obsession with Catholic “ KZfaqrs” with acknowledging every ignorant thing Protestant ministers say? It’s getting to be overkill. Love and pray for them.

The caller at 13:27 sounds like Mike Gendron.

Die Verbum 9-10, sounds right and correct but Roman Catholicism rejected both Tradition and scripture when it committed the sin of schism and promoted heresy against the enduring voices of the many described by Father Panayiotis Papageorgiou and that I like to simply, but less beautiful, call the enduring consensus. Durbin is equally wrong as his fundamental premise of how do you know what you know to be correct isn’t scripture necessarily, it’s the Holy Spirits continuing inspiration on the Body of Christ that created Scripture. So, in this regard Durbin and Roman Catholicism are founded in similar error in conflict with Tradition established by the Holy Spirit and defined by Scripture in Acts when James and the Apostles confronted the teaching that you had to become Jewish prior to becoming Christian. This meeting is commonly referred to as the Jerusalem or First Council who’s decision was determined “pleasing” to the Holy Spirit. Peter may be the “Rock” and may in fact hold the “keys” to heaven, but that’s meaningless because he never assumed, demanded or exercised “Papal Authority”. Neither did any of his successors, if he had any in Rome as Clement’s appointment is unclear or at least less clear than the succession of Ignatius’ in Antioch, until the rise of the Holy Roman Empire and Charlemagne. Likewise, Durbin ignores the historical fact that the New Testament as a complete Codex wasn’t available to Bishops and Patriarchs for four hundred years and to common literate Christians for nearly 1,800 years making his flavor of worship and sola theologies impossible to be experienced as he applies them in the 21st century to earlier Christians. Durbin’s logic requires the conclusion that Christians before Luther and Calvin and after the apostles or possibly the Apostolic fathers weren’t true Christians and that simply is silly especially when you consider that it’s exactly that same timeframe from Apostolic Fathers to Constantine that the Church wrote, compiled and selected the canon of Scripture. Attempting to stitch together a system of faith and theology with snippets of scripture or the dictates of a magisterium directed by a single individual are equally guilty of similar ignorance born of selective reading of Scripture and the Church Fathers and an almost complete denial of historical fact. Nothing I’ve put forward is meant to challenge anyone’s access to God’s grace as that is between the individual and our Savior. You don’t have to go to any Church to have a relationship with Christ, but if you wish to strengthen that relationship to its greatest potential through worship and more importantly receiving the Sacraments, all seven of them, the best place with the greatest chance to please Christ most, all things being equal, is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, the Orthodox Church that has remained committed to The Scripture and the Tradition of the Apostles, Apostolic Fathers and the Church Fathers. Lord Jesus Christ my God have mercy on me a sinner. Brothers in Christ I beg for your blessing.

I'd say "interreligous discussion" because Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, and so forth practice religions where a different person founded each denomination. Protestantism suggests religious indifferentism, a heresy Bl. Pius IX condemns in his Syllabus of Errors. Religious indifferentists believe each person has a God-given right to practice any religion he believes. You can still be a Christian in any Christian denomination. But if you don't agree with what your denomination believes, you join another one instead. You don't get the deposit of faith by combing the doctrines from each sect because that method will produce a logically inconsistent group of doctrines. Doctrines are logically inconsistent when they can't be true together. One inconsistency makes the collection inconsistent.

I can’t even. 54:49 the man is sitting here reading from the Bible, that he claims is the only thing that he follows, directly that faith is not complete without works aka conversion is an ongoing process that relies on us repeatedly trying to do what is right on top of just believing and then he goes “nuh uh it doesn’t mean that because a string of men in the 1600s (which is later than even Islam came around) said Catholics magically appeared and were bad and wrong and stuff” At some point you have to wonder if people are being willfully ignorant to avoid having to try.