I did not need an explanation about your shininess and I don't think anybody else needed one either you just look moisturized. Nourished. Rejuvenated.

Yes, hot. I'm very much in agreement.

DEVIL BOBS

I was just going to say that red face paint looks very good on you.

yess you're glowing 💘

hello, child.

​@@ShanspeareI worship you mother

We need a “Hail mother” chain

Hail mother 💃🏻

Hail mother

to quote my late nanna who grew up in the rural australian varient of the panic 'not liking a type of music cause its loud is first sign of old fart'itis but thinking that its a source of evil is some arsebrained bullshit'

Satanism is not a fashion trend, it's about putting your faith in yourself, instead of God and his overflowing and true Kindness and love. The devil perverts love and the Lord's Logo: Aka the Rainbow, to mean something else. The devil only perverts, steals, and destroys.

@@celtonthetitanlive someone needs to touch grass

Agreed!

​@@m00n119Your Nana sounds like one excellent lady!

I'm sorry women and children in your country are going thru that

You are right -- I think the scapegoating in developing countries is often easier, because oppressed groups have yet to have grabbed more power. So, it's enough to be a woman that upsets someone to get shunned or killed. The mechanism is largely the same, though: create an in-group and an out-group and vilify that out-group to the point that they get shunned and eventually killed. We can look at history in the imperial core, where we had witch burnings, clearly aimed at women, and various waves of repression of women that led to less spectacular, but very real deaths. Even in something as simple as the Comstock era in the States (mirrored in different ways across the world, and I am sure still going on in many places in the imperial periphery), where simply denying the distribution of any kind of contraception, or information on the subject was labeled as pornography and thus prohibited. It led to countless deaths of women dying not only in childbirth, but from various complications from having children, and having too many of them, along with not knowing how their bodies worked (uterine prolapse, fissures leading to infection, ovarian torsion, etc etc etc). As Shanspeare mentions, we also have seen similar patterns arise to try to destroy Jewish people, black people, etc. Who is the victim doesn't really matter for this strategy to work. Whether you call it Satanism or Witchcraft or Immorality, Christianity, or even Socialism and ANTIFA, the important part is that the powerful need to have a scapegoat, and convince people to go after these supposedly evil people so they don't have to, or so they can implement draconian measures to suppress them. And regardless of who we are and where we are, it is our job to resist othering and dehumanizing, mass slaughters and incarcerations. We need to make sure we keep our eye on what's important, or enemy is not among us -- our enemy are the richest and most powerful people in the world. And we need to protect those who are marginalized, for whatever reason, even when we don't like that marginalized group. Fight the powerful, protect the victims, always.

I agree with you to some extent. While there are far more important issues around the world, I think it's worth discussing bc at least in México satanic panic (alongside colonialism ofc) has gone far enough to cause harm in indigenous communities, and even to animals that happen to live close by.

As someone from the global South and an overexploited country, I disagree. If you mean the way *Christians* think this is an issue, then I agree. But if you mean in the way this non-issue is used to persecute native populations (like the earlier comment mentioned), queer people, atheists, leftists and yeah, all that DOES include women, then I disagree.

i understand respectfully how this issue may have no relevance to residents of countries in the global south, however as someone from the united states who was raised in evangelical christianity, this is an important issue for us in a nation where fascism is on the rise. if the people in my country let instances of satanic panic go unchecked, it will lead to people being hurt in the way you describe above, not just women, but many other marginalized groups. i understand that the issue of global imperialism is a truly complicated one, but that being said, there are marginalized groups in the united states who either do not have the privilege of full citizenship or whose rights to full citizenship are being taken away if people look to oppress them. anyone from trans people to jewish people to indigenous people to non-citizen residents of the united states are at risk of this moralizing thinking, as it's those people who will suffer the impacts of neo-conservativeism that comes with attitudes like the satanic panic.

Shes jewish??? I had no idea

It is real hollywood satanism and if you haven't seen through it yet than only Jesus may help you. Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.

That has nothing to do with it honestly. 9 times out of 10 people don't even know her mom is Jewish. And literally what does black have to do with Satanism

I think the Jewish part is a reach. Barely anyone knows that.

@@gertrudesatekge2635satanic panic is inherently anti black. If you ever noticed anytime a black artists becomes extremely big I.e Beyoncé, Nicki Minaj, Doja Cat. It’s NEVER due to merit, it’s always due to them “selling their souls”. This was even said about Barack Obama and his family, attributing their success to deals with the devil. These moral panics panic has been around for a long time, even being used as a justification for slavery

yeee I look like off brand Anne Frank and I'm scared to be in public.

good luck 💕

@@RaroHi don’t be, those who judge you are superficial and scared to get to know your inner beauty 🍂💞

@@RaroHiI get how you feel. Although I am German, I have brown hair and brown eyes. Many people mistake me for a Turkish woman (it’s okay, I don’t mind). But what I do mind is that Nazis are on the rise and they target foreigners. Stay safe

This non-Jewish bi grrl has your back ❤🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🩷✡️

Unless you're Madonna. My grandmother thinks Madonna is the W of Babylon and Rocco Richie (her son) is the antichrist.

Jazz was definitely the devil’s music around the time it emerged more. Same with hip-hop when rock n roll was taking communities by a storm. If it wasn’t quiet, modest and comfortable it was definitely Satanic to both…

its got a lot to do with the commodification and commercialization of alternative fashion. the general aesthetics of subcultures have been coopted by normies and elites (see egirls, "big tiddy goth gf" meme, fashion trends describing celebrities wearing black as "goth," the success of wednesday, and whatever tf doja cat is doing right now) while completely leaving out the politics. since these people are so visible, the same types of conservative folks brigading against punks and metalheads 30-40 years ago direct their immediate ire toward them for their aesthetics even if their ideologies are just as vapid and conformist as ever. meanwhile, actual alternative ppl wouldnt touch those celebrities with a 10 foot pole.

Of course they are scared. :D

It's not about republican or democrat, they are both on the same side, and they aren't on the Lord's side. Put your faith in Christ

@@celtonthetitanlive no no silly rabbit I said conservative! To say conservative and liberal are the same side is simply untrue. Yes it's all the government, but we, are sadly, a part of the government LOLL well or we are in theory. Anyways sorry but no 😔

@@celtonthetitanlive Only one side clings to homophobia, racism and sexism openly.

@@celtonthetitanlive this is not the video to comment this bye

I think they’ll probably break up soon it’s just a matter of months

she needs to drop that man but what damage control though?

It makes sense if you see it in the context of her corny self-hating longstanding alignment with genuine fascists tho that everyone seems inexplicably happy to overlook 🙃

eW No I never realized it was THIS guy.

Doja Cat is a weird chick with a fondness for incels. I'm staying the f@ck out of dodge.

Okay, this is sad.

@@sabsain2399 incredibly sad. a lot of people's lives(including little childrens') were ruined

Yeah, they took Lucifer from the Roman pantheon of deities. Paradise Lost was the fictional poem about Lucifer being a fallen angel. Someone took that as truth. You know how those translators and ancient religious folks be.

Have you ever considered that the overwhelming majority of people worldwide, regardless of religious or non-religious background, don’t enjoy ambiguous support of Satan (which this clearly is)? When a woman is out here on livestreams saying she loves eating human shit in full-seriousness, is it so hard for you to comprehend people are gonna find her extremely creepy and weird? If this is all merely “art” to you, you are never going to draw the line 🤣 Apparently actual Satanism, in whatever form it’s manifested, will not ever exist to you or be acknowledged by you. Creepy mf

Talking about horror themed art, pls listen to Carpenter Brut if you don't already know him

Before someone else says it, she's Jewish or half ☠️

@@mikorisheridan6769 and? the same way black people can set other black people up to be hatecrimed, and queer people can be anti lgbtqia, a jew can contribute to anti-semitism, those things do not cancel each other.

@@jessiklovecine as I said, saying it before someone else does ☠️☠️ she's not a good person she's famous she's probably way way worse than we know. Just wanted to be the one to say it LOL everyone's talking abt her race like it adds to this but as fas as I know people only know she's not Black 100% when they Google it ☠️ and yeah, I know what coons are lol

tbh!! you're right!@@jessiklovecine most of our media is ripe with anti-semitic content and stereotypes in spite of (or maybe because of) so many Hollywood execs being Jewish. What you are doesn't preclude you from condemning your own people (*cough* Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa irt to portrayal of queer youth *cough*).

+1

Agreed, but Im glad it occurs a couple times year now as opposed to every few years. Its like christmas for atheists 😁

While by no means an explanation for everyone who falls for the Satanic Panic, many of them believe in things based on faith, not evidence. Actual evidence may tell them that there’s no proof X celebrity or minority group being heinous baby eaters, but their pastor tells them that there _is_ evidence, it’s just that the devil (and his POC/Jewish/queer/elite cronies) tricks everyone into thinking there is none, and why would the pastor lie to his congregation? “The devil’s greatest trick was convincing people he doesn’t exist” and all that. Also throwing in hints that not believing in a specific take will result in exclusion helps to keep people devoted to the narrative. Why risk shunning and hellfire when fitting in is easier? Faith is fine in moderation, like Shan said, religion can be tremendously helpful for some people, but when it’s used to propagate fear and distrust in the world and is used as a weapon against other people, that’s when it’s gone off the rails. Source: personal experience with fundamental Christian family as a queer agnostic.

it's getting old

Riiiiight... You'd think they'd study recent history a bit and notice the trend.

Do you know about Franklin? Maybe read some books on the topic. Here are so are some good some good searches ACHRE, Nick Bryant, Finders Cult, mc marten. Oh by the way Nick Bryant did an over an hour interview with an author covering the martin preschool case. The way she is covering this is beyond unintellectual and inaccurate. I don't want to do details but you can research these things in depth not like this women did. Really go watch Conspiracy of silence and read the Franklin cover-up. Don't just read the wiki page and say "see it's all bs." Oh check out the FMSF check out real women real stories the ITNJ. Hmm Occult Hollywood... I just keep watching as this chick says things that I've read about and come to completely different conclusions. I've talked to survivors myself. What do you think about the extreme abuse survey or the ISSTD. God I've done a lot more research than this chick she is wrong about a lot. Honestly it's alarming because there is a multi billion dollar child trafficking market and it's kinda offensive having talked to victims to hear it get denied so hard.

Exactly! These videos painting doja as a victim (which to an extent, SHE IS) without talking about her current and VERY harmful controversies are strange

Everyone has been doing this too, I don’t understand how they all literally ignore J Cyrus 💀

I agree, the bad faith criticisms of Doja really obscure the valid criticisms.

+1

YES gd exactly, Doja is using silly little antics to deflect from the very real and serious problem of abuse, and I am stunned at how well it's worked. There were so many commentators (shanspeare included) when i saw their videos I thought "HERE'S someone with critical thinking skills who will give this the attention it deserves" and I have been disappointed EVERY time. It's been fucking depressing. Like...society truly _hates_ victims and people want to think about them as little as possible

goddamn tho, i made the right choice. illuminati my ass.

yeah...himself@@chrrycola2717

​@nicholastime1513😂

hell yeah good for you!! a friend of mine is dating a dude who’s also into conspiracy theories and it’s so annoying lmao. really makes you question that person’s critical thinking skills

Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.

I mean she drew and conceptually crafted the project. So the theme does fit and make sense as it’s the brith of Scarlett to the public essentially.

No really because she hyped this album to be a harsher and edgier sound when in all honesty all the ep’s she’s dropped so far have an interesting/catchy beat but no real edge to it to justify or support the some of the visuals (I guess she might be going to juxtaposition idk). I guess the beat from Demons works with the visuals but all I hear from the lyrics is a watered down Rico nasty. the weird Uber religious Christian response is really dumb and unfounded especially if you’re actually grounded in your faith and not just posturing

Exactly! If I remember correctly, people started calling her satanic for shaving her head.

YEP@@kasmith54

​@@kasmith54 I don't wanna believe it but at the same time I believe it 😭

SAME!!! I've been waiting for someone to talk about this critically

Yes, more people than you would think take the Bible very literally. Arguably, it might be most of them

i can confirm that a lot of people take it not only as a literal accounting but also have strong preferences for which version of the bible is the 'true' one that has the literal accounting told correctly

The Devil is Alive, and he wants all the souls he can devour, he wants to pervert, kill, steal, and destroy all beauty and abolish all love.

@@celtonthetitanlive LMFAOOOOOOO

A lot of people believe that "the Devil" is real, and not a wilful mistranslation of A "satan" _...Belief It Or Not._ (Also _Trevor the Explainer._ Neither are what I would describe as part of "the sceptic community" - y'know, those weird neckbeard atheists who freak out about wombns in Marvel movies and/or get all high and mighty about being Atheist™. You know what I mean. [Of course nothing wrong with atheists!])

wholeheartedly agree, I would let then hypnotize me while filling me with existential dread any time of day

best compliment

Marilyn Manson, Gaga, Madonna

​@@AntwannnnGaga and Madonna aren't straight and Manson got famous during the height of the satanic panic and clearly capitalized on the cultural zeitgeist. That's what Marilyn manson does. Marilyn manson infamously likes attention. When he was falling off in the mid 2000s he made a diss track against my chemical romance, accusing them of ripping him off.

​@@Antwannnnalmost always****🤗

and playboi carti

@lcvetheory ian wanna talk abt carti in the comment cus he piss me off. maybe ill forgive him if he drops

I agree with you, as a fellow goth kid from the nineties, that we are in a better place to resist. It no longer takes moving to the big city to find our community, to band together and organize. And most of my friends my age and younger (surely a self-selecting group, however) have become *more* radical with age, and are really engaging in the politics and not just the aesthetics of resistance. Something to be mindful of: we are seeing a lot of what leftists call "recuperation": this is a commodification of the resistance (not limited just to subcultures) and a resale of it to us. So we see things like major brands and big box stores now carry goth clothing, and we see a lot less DIY clothing than we saw in the nineties (which was already less so here than in Europe, where I grew up, where you had almost no stores that carried goth stuff, so you had to DIY). This incorporates more and more of our aesthetic and consumption into the mainstream, defusing the most radical elements, and lulling us into a false sense of safety. So while I believe it is appropriate to be hopeful, this doesn't mean that we can just stop the fight, cause we ain't close to winning yet. Another thing to think about that is related to the above is that individual consumption and conversion to ideas, or even participating in spirituality and feeling better about ourselves is NOT activism, and does not in and of itself produce change. Wearing a Che Guevara tee doesn't make you a leftist, you have to actually work to make changes, like participating in solidarity efforts, mutual aid, local politics, etc...

@@glenn_desert_witch I've been going to protests since the Bush presidency (my first was a Soldiers Against the War protest where there were maybe at most 20 people, mostly Vietnam vets, because none of the papers in Central Ohio, including the Columbus Dispatch, would allow the people organizing it to advertise it) and we were all called "traitors" and told that we were unAmerican because, as I am sure you remember, speaking out against Bush and the war was treated by a huge portion of our society as an act against America (because they made up the rule that "you can't speak out against the president during the war" which was, of course, thrown out the window when Obama took office) and I have been physically threatened by self-described "patriots" for wearing a John Lennon tee shirt with the "offensive" saying 'Give Peace a Chance' printed across it. As soon as 9/11 happened, the town that hated me all of my life for not conforming anything about myself to what they deemed appropriate had a much bigger reason to hate me because I saw the war as bullshit, started for the express purpose of making the rich richer, just like Vietnam, and I had zero patience for Anti-Muslim attitudes either. That put a target on my back very quickly....Gee, I am happy that I had the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so wrong....lol I do fear that we are headed back in that direction with the Trump cult but the good news is, the people like that are now a minority (about 20 to 30 percent of the country). I have always been very politically far left and I have stayed aware and active. From marriage equality to getting Plan B on store shelves to a decades long fight for reproductive rights to attempting to stand up against racist pigs who get away with killing in cold blood, I studied the biographies and listened to the interviews of activists from my grandparents generation on back and I always tried to see where they went wrong and what they got right. Back in the day I found my fellow millennials to be frustrating as hell because they seemed convinced abortion rights, alongside human rights in general, could never be taken from us so to see that so many have finally opened their eyes since Donald Trump became president makes me happy.... although I wish it wouldn't have taken that since there was plenty of evidence to say that everything going on right now, Trump as president or someone like him as president included, was coming since Reagan's presidency. But it fills me with hope to see how committed Gen Z is to turning this shit show around. The first time I really felt like the left already has the future on lock down was when the Parkland kids staged their walk out and thousands participated even when the schools were threatening to expell them if they walked out. The speeches from the kids at Parkland that day brought me to tears, not only because of how dark the present is but also because it felt for a moment like a progressive future was inevitable. Gen Z has all of the political awareness that my generation did not have at their age and many of them are taking to the streets or the statehouses, they are voting in large numbers, they are calling senators and representatives to tell them just how they feel about the fuckery. I love to see it. If both generations came together, I do believe we could affect change.... before Trump or the many people now in our government who are just like him, actually succeeds in creating a fascist dictatorship which this current Supreme Court would probably be cool with, and the corporate Dems would do what they always do....sit back, allow it to happen, and use it to get more donations. As far as the Goth aesthetic being easily accessible, it is what it is. I am personally a thrift store Trad Goth myself and I have been since the 90's because I was poor and fat so Hot Topic was of no use to me. Lmao The fight over differentiating between those who just like the look and the actual real Goths has been going on since the 90's. And yet there are still people my age who have called themselves Goth for decades who do not know that Goth is a subculture built around Goth music. So I feel the same way I felt back then. There are far bigger things to focus on. Just as there were people who dressed like Punks and called themselves punk who didn't care about the music, so it is with Goth, and that certainly won't be changing now that the look is easier to achieve than ever before. The only time I have an issue is when it's a prep who bullied kids for being Goth one year and popped up dressed like a Goth Lite or a Diet Goth the next (*cough* The very first Emo kids.....). Aside from that, I feel like it just is what it is. I hope you have a good rest of your weekend. 😁

Absolutely right. The true division is only beginning. The world is changing, and the practicing Christians will be divided from the rest of the world. Put your faith in the Lord. Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.

​@@lestatsluv317Damn! Awesome! I... I can't find better words. So well put, so well thought out... Cheers! \m/

@@mookinbabysealfurmittens Thank you! 😊

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Omg SHANSPEARE LIKED MY COMMENT YAYAYA

its ok that doja is cringe...cringe is necessary

Crigne mean orbage and then. Its yuym

cringe is freedom

Hella cringe never found her appeal other than giving us forever 21 inspired lyrics and looks

I guess serial killers that believe in God are automatically good ?? Someone needs to fire that priest smh

I suggest to move away from the state entirely, maybe to a more open minded state.

@@saragreenfire4515 I did? I said so in my comment? The US may be big but Texas isnt 1500 miles on its own XD

@@grimmgoosegoose216 Oops, I diden't think of it. I should have paid more attention to that part lol

Source ? Or are you playing telephone?

@@chrrycola2717 no i read the post. just google it for yourself 'j cyrus admitting to allegations' it takes as much energy as posting this comment

@@chrrycola2717 He made a twit longer apologising for his past racism and manipulating tons of women, i don't know if it's still up or if he deleted it but you can find it archived

When did he say that?

@@wetsockz3001 2020

deadass

i’m assuming she may not like the music she makes but is most likely under contract to make pop as it sells and makes money or she doesn’t know what alternative is

​@@yunelune8272she started out on soundcloud she absolutely knows how alt music sounds like

Yeah, I mean I like Paint the Town Red and Attention but it really doesn't sound that different 😅

Ikkk she explains stuff so nice

omg what are we 😳

Hey stay safe out there dude, Florida sounds like it's getting kinda crazy 💜🤘🏻

Yup. I grew up in Texas and if you knew a kid who was allowed to read Harry Potter or wasn't allowed to play Pokémon or Yugioh...

im crocheting too… what are u making?