Are Wheel Spacers Worth It?
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Wheel spacers are one of the most overlooked modifications you can have for your car. As enthusiasts ourselves, we would like to educate you on why that is the case if you already didn't know. Not only is it a great mod for just about everyone, but it's really affordable to snag a set! Let's talk all about spacers!
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0:00 intro
0:38 breakdown of spacers
2:17 why would you need spacers?
4:20 pricing
4:38 are they worth it?
5:06 outro
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@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Interested in grabbing a set of spacers? 👇 www.fitmentindustries.com/store/spacers
@fhlebela 2 жыл бұрын
I FW this series because it answers a lot questions that I never thought I had.
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we can help homie! 🙏 -Edgar
@antoncederholm6591 2 жыл бұрын
We run spacers to clear our big break kit. 3mm of clearance between wheel and calliper with a 15mm spacer... VW beetle with Brembo 17z 6pistons
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Lets gooo! What are you running for a wheel and tire setup?! Should add to the gallery if its aftermarket! -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
@antoncederholm6591 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries Tires are Eagle F1 asymmetrics. 235/40 19
@ramadhanisme7 2 жыл бұрын
Damn dude can't imagine your engine spec
@antoncederholm6591 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramadhanisme7 2.0t with about 275 HP, so not crazy. However stock brakes are pretty garbage and might as well go all in for the flex
@ACommenterOnYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Spacers are GREAT because not all wheels come in the exact size and offset that you need. Just make sure they are hub centric to the hub and wheel (both sides)
@michaelbutkus4790 2 жыл бұрын
I'm running 2" spacers on the rear of my off road prerunner truck. I had to go with super wide spacers so the wheel clears the beefy shock since the truck is long travelled. No problems after 2 years with many off road trips. Now I'm trying to figure out which width spacers to get for my 84 corvette to make the wheels flush
@nighthawkcm8872 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I just thought I'd let you know I got my wheels in today! Everything shipped and processed super quickly. I couldn't be happier. Thanks for the free sticker (which you KNOW I'll rep), and the letter was a nice touch. IDK if it helps you guys out at all, but I definitely found you through KZfaq. I can't wait to upload my pictures to the FI gallery. Y'all need a discord server.... Just a thought. Cheers and much love from KC!
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah homie! 🙏🏽🙏🏽 I’m glad to hear that, for sure make sure to throw her up on the gallery and thanks for the support! ❤️ -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
@cheesecube14 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my Vors TR4s from you guys today! excellent condition love them
@ayomarvo 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my spacers from you guys about a month ago.. I am totally satisfied. It gave me the fitment I was looking for! #SatisfiedCustomer!!!!
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we can help there homie! 🤝🤝🤝 -Edgar
@gduran9165 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries Could you help me find a fit for my vw passat 2022
@Maiqueemo 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’ve been waiting on this one to help make a decision
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we can help! 🤘🤘🤘 Sam is smart when it comes to things. -Edgar
@cnovalles73 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and great info. It's gonna be a bit before I can get a set of wheels so planning to get some spacers to bolt behind my steelies so it doesn't look too bad with a drop
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
There ya go! You know where to find us. 🤘🏾 -Edgar
@flamescorruption 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can go online and do as much research as you can and order what you're told is the right fitment and still come across something unexpected. My girlfriend has a 2020 WRX premium with the performance package (premium performance comes with 4 pot brembos) and actually went onto fitment industries to order her Avid AV06's in 18/9.5 with a 38mm offset because the fitment calculator and gallery showed that they would fit with no issue. The day they tried to mount them onto her car, the shop said they wouldn't clear the brakes and we needed to order spacers and open lugs for them. I'll say that if it wasn't for spacers we'd be dealing with a completely different situation on trying to get her wheels on her car
@darrylbrooks851 2 жыл бұрын
Good video on spacers👍🏾
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 -Edgar
@DoomerDan 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered lowering springs so I can’t wait to get some spacers to really dial in the fitment this summer
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Just ready for the warmth! -Edgar
@Hachi501st 2 жыл бұрын
I run 5mm spacers just to get that sweet fitment. All i needed was that little extra addition and it looks so much better
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear homie! Is it up on the gallery? 👀 -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
@mikkson100 2 жыл бұрын
Love the memtion of Trollhunter😂 Greetings from the home of the film, Norway 🇳🇴
@toycoma98 2 жыл бұрын
I have 18x10.5 rear and 18x9 in the front. I run 1" bolt on spacer in the front to match the rear 10.5 wide. Also with my 98 tacoma, the more you lower the front, the more the hub moves inward. So the 1" spacer evens it out. Hub centric spacers are a must, dont get those universal spacers that wobbles loosely. Dont forget the hubcentric rings as well.
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
All the good info here! Thanks for sharing, make sure to add your ride to the gallery! 💪🏽 -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
@TheNorwegianDronePilot 2 жыл бұрын
Question. If you are using wheel spacers, should you use them on while taking a '4-wheel control', or should you take that '4-wheel control' by not having the spacers on?
@Aperez78 2 жыл бұрын
I'm running Spacers on my 18 Lexus 3IS! Needed to clear my BBK (6 Pot 360Mm front & 4 Pot 345mm rear) Doing slip on spacers to avoid torquing those inside bolts all the time. Front Arp extended studs H&R 15Mm spacer Poly Hubcentric Ring Been running for 2.5 years on my 3 piece Ordens and never had an issue!
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Lets go! Do you have it up on our gallery for us to look at homie!? -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
@2010ngojo 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, hub studs are way easier to deal with than stud bolts.
@bhcamaro2002 2 жыл бұрын
For clearing big brake calipers as well
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
100% Helps! I agree. -Edgar
@Boosted_aj 2 жыл бұрын
I used to drift and swing around in gravel with a Jeep running 2inch spacers all around. I can say for sure they are safe to run
@infadelakainf 2 жыл бұрын
I had a set of spacer/adapters on my 07 Avalanche and that truck looked beasty with the poke look
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
They definitely are useful in those instances. Im sure it looks dope! -Edgar
@infadelakainf 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustriesyeah it had 26s. But just traded it for an Escalade. Family hauler; nowhere near as fun as the Speed6
@phil6747 2 жыл бұрын
The negatives of spacers are that they put leverage onto the wheel bearings causing them to wear out sooner and they also push the contact area of the tyre away from the centre when cornering reducing grip and wearing tyres faster.
@darkshadowsx5949 2 жыл бұрын
its "tire" not oljher learn English.
@phil6747 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkshadowsx5949 It’s only dum Americans that spell it tire the rest of the world spell it tyre. But I wouldn’t expect you to know that as you’ve never been out of your mothers basement.
@christopherreed8152 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkshadowsx5949 In England, the word is spelled properly, "tyre." Surely, you're not wrongly correctly another's spelling whilst making spelling errors of your own. The irony.... Cheers lad.
@johnconnor2402 Жыл бұрын
@@darkshadowsx5949 How do you live this long without knowing there's different spelling out there for words depending on where you're from lmao
@xMotoHoon43x Жыл бұрын
04 dc5 with rolled fenders do to wide tires wanted a wider look n with out 20mm spacers look like it skip leg day😂
@medinajessi 2 жыл бұрын
Trollhunter is a fantastic movie. hell yeah
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
🧌🧌🧌 -Edgar
@NeverB_Gameover 2 жыл бұрын
I use them cause my aftermarket wheels don't clear the Brembos without them.
@carsmusicandclothing7066 2 жыл бұрын
needed this vid since I'm gonna be running spacers on my 80's S Class. great refresher
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
We gotchu! 💪🏽💪🏽 what are you putting on? -Edgar
@carsmusicandclothing7066 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries the cars gonna be OEM+'d so I'm running wheels from a 2006 S Class. My bad for late reply man. Hope I can order rims from you guys in the future.
@buzzlightyear2851 Жыл бұрын
Spacers are totally worth it, some people have to big of an ego and just say things like “just buy the right wheel specs” but if you can buy 100$ spacers instead of buying another set of 1000$+ wheels to dial in that fitment I’d say is a huge W
@Brogaty21 2 жыл бұрын
I have an AWD Charger so I had to buy a square setup for my wheels. The fronts fit absolutely perfect, but the rear needs an extra few mm for flush.
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Spacers should help! -Edgar
@boost331 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes spacers are the difference of being able to run a wheel that doesnt otherwise fit. Somehow it never fails the the wheels I like the most for a build never come if the size\offset I want.... so spacers it is.
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Sacrifices have to be made sometimes! -Edgar
@ayoitsyayo 2 жыл бұрын
I have spacers on my S6 with new wheels and tires, CR-V and GMC with stock set up and they look a million times better, they get a little more dirty but not a huge amount I love the more aggressive look
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
👌👌👌 what wheels on the S6?! Have you thought about adding it to the gallery if you havent already? -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
@ayoitsyayo 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries still has a lot of work until she’s ready for her big reveal but she will need a lot more work wish me luck!
@gregorygregory6347 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
💪 -Edgar
@madgalaxy952 2 жыл бұрын
yes they are
@eduardogil2872 2 жыл бұрын
My front studs need little trimming to fit my 25 mm spacers with my stock wheel since they poke out a little bit but I will get it done professionally is it worth it?
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Depends if you plan on running the same wheels for a while! If you're switching it up, do what you feel is right. -Edgar
@jinsangyang4110 2 жыл бұрын
only running spacers on my sti so i can fit my s209 kit and get wheels from you guys later
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Lets goo! 🙏 cant wait to see it! -Edgar
@JSFGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I have hub-centric spacers for offset mustang hub mustang wheel, runs and drives.
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
What are you running for wheels? Make sure to add it to our gallery! -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
@JSFGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries 2014 CS mustang 19-in. Pull offs from a co-worker $200. All of this on Cobra 2004 mustang brakes on a 1995 Thunderbird super coupe. All done properly. I'll have to check out y'all's wheel spacers for 92 Thunderbird SC. Too bad can't post pictures.
@DumbassTim 2 жыл бұрын
Aye Sams back nice
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
He is! The homie is dope. -Edgar
@DumbassTim 2 жыл бұрын
Now that he’s been exposed to the channel we’re gonna need a ton more videos with him👀
@FieldTestedSemenKun 2 жыл бұрын
Don't spacers put more wear on the wheel bearings causing you to have to replace them sooner though?
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
I believe as long as its not a crazy amount of thickness, it should be fine. Never had a issue personally when running them longterm. -Edgar
@alexsegura9012 2 жыл бұрын
What if you only need clearance in just the front and not the back for coilovers ? Would it be dumb to run 5mm spacers only in the front ?
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Nope! I've done it before for one of my cars because it wouldnt clear the strut. Not dumb at all! -Edgar
@JBR_1995 Жыл бұрын
Hey, this was a very good video. Personally I'm having trouble to know which size is right for me. After measuring, both my front wheels have an offset of 22 mm, my left rear wheel has 32 mm and my rear right wheel has 25 mm. Since this is by measuring on the outside part of my fenders, I believe subtracting like 3 mm is a must. So in the end it is 19 mm for front wheels and 29/22 mm for the rear wheels. Now according to these numbers, I could go with four 15 mm spacers. But I am a little bit worried about it, because my fenders go kinda diagonally upwards. So basically I am worried that if I use 15 mm spacers, my wheels might rub on my fenders. So my question is, should I go with 10 mm, 12,5 mm or 15 mm spacers? I want the sportier look but without sacrificing safe driving and fender clearance.
@FitmentIndustries Жыл бұрын
It all depends. Have you thought about rolling your fenders?
@JBR_1995 Жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries Thanks for the reply. I didn't think about it but I know that I wont roll my fenders. That's why I struggle to pick the right size. This is my daily car so I have to be keep it practical as well 😅
@jacobbarker1945 2 жыл бұрын
Does it hav any suspension mechanical downside though, can it damage bearings and rods or anything from moving the point of support farther out?
@andrewjanssen5502 2 жыл бұрын
Of course it can but no worse than running that heavy of an offset would
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
This 👆👆👆 -Edgar
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 2 жыл бұрын
I have Titan wheel spacers they have been great. no issues so far.
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 2 жыл бұрын
Hub centric 2 inches.
@jaredharrell5751 2 жыл бұрын
how long and do you ever have to retorque them?
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredharrell5751, So far I have had them a year, and I have had the wheels off 5 times. And out of all the times they were as I left them. I thought I would have to more often but so far, nope. I used a thread locker. But they tell you too, so that's nothing big.
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I have longer studs and better lugs.
@jaredharrell5751 2 жыл бұрын
@@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 thanks for the great info, I was thinking of getting the bonoss wheel spacers instead of titan because of the increase in quality do you think it’s worth the extra 100$ or should i be good with titan, my car has a few degrees of camber in the rear
@jyudat4433 2 жыл бұрын
I’m new to spacers and never used em before. Is it safe with to have your wheel studs stick out farther than bolt on spacers? Or are you supposed to cut the studs flush? I feel like it wouldn’t be safe.
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldnt have to cut anything at all! Should be good to use.-Edgar
@jyudat4433 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries aye respects for answering ! customer service like this is why companies like Fitment Industries thrive
@andydelassus2734 2 жыл бұрын
I put them on my Subie, name brand, hubcentric. Cleaned the hubs and torqued to spec. 2 weeks later a wobble started. Lugs still torqued. Spacer warped. In the garbage they went. Never again. Just buy wheels with the offset you want
@costanzaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
scary stuff
@Max__Powers 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like bad luck. I have spacers, name brand, generic. 2 weeks later nothing happened. Lugs still torqued, spacer fine. 🤣🤣🤣
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Thats unfortunate! You didnt call the manufacturer? -Edgar
@andydelassus2734 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries I just wanted to add a lil thiccness to my winter wheel setup. MAP will happily replace, but I don’t plan an reinstalling anyway. Felt too sketchy. Summer wheels going back in soon 🤙🏻
@andydelassus2734 2 жыл бұрын
@@Max__Powers I def think I got a bad one, other 3 seemed fine
@audoinxr6372 2 жыл бұрын
I got criminally charged for running bolt ons on my first car here in Aus. 😭 I only ran them because my stock fitment is +6. Back in 06. Try getting a non $4k set of wheels in 17/18 x9/10 in 0 or neg offset 😂
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Woooff. 😳😳 that just sounds rough man what do you have now?!-Edgar
@atayal_1 2 жыл бұрын
australia struggles man, i can relate :( guess aussie coppers don’t like nice cars 🥲
@audoinxr6372 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries got a new Ford Falcon with a more normal 5x114.3 +35 OEM. Went a set of Cosmis XT206R 18x9.5 +10/18x11 +8.
@jaredharrell5751 2 жыл бұрын
how often would you have to retorque like some 30 mm spacers
@jaredharrell5751 2 жыл бұрын
I want spacers to poke out my camber a little more in the rear after lowering
@alssafir1133 2 жыл бұрын
Just a small question Does it damage the bearings or not
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
As far as im aware it doesnt do any damage to the bearing, i ran spacers on my old GTI for 3 years and never noticed anything different with bearing use. -Edgar
@Mekanik.b 2 жыл бұрын
People that say spacers are bad are the same people that say turbo flutter is destroying your car 😂
@bbkangs 2 жыл бұрын
I had to put wheel spacers to keep from rubbing my coilovers
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i did with my E46! Needed a couple of 10mm in the front to be golden. -Edgar
@sanders2strong 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer lug bolts
@jaeger7498 2 жыл бұрын
Please do So You Want To Lift Your WRX!
@ShayHarambe 2 жыл бұрын
I was just talking about buying spacers for my Supra 4 hours ago 😂😂
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Lets gooo! You know where to find us with them. 💪💪💪 -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/
@racermaniak 2 жыл бұрын
TL;DW: Yes.
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. -Edgar
@skaterman1112foru 2 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to track your car with spaces?
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Sam tracks his car with some spacers! -Edgar
@notion7908 2 жыл бұрын
It just so happens I was looking for some advice on wheel spacers and found this video right after watching a video on how to calculate offset.
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Ayooo hope we helped you homie! 🤘🤘🤘 -Edgar
@tkskagen 2 жыл бұрын
For a "Utube Short", Gel's Unfortunate experience with Slip-on Spacers would be a great addition! Or just go full-on with explanation, and then you (DONUT MEDIA) has an easy-peasy Episode Idea!!!
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
♨️♨️ -Edgar
@saidmarcial9232 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone using a spacer for emergency like to use on a spare tire? See I have brembo brakes and my spare tire that comes with the car don’t fit because the clearance of the brakes to the tire. Learned the hard way and scratched my brembo brakes ☠️
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Ooof.. No bueno! 😲 -Edgar
@lelandgaunt9985 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, how else am I going to ruin a good caprice classic or G-body!
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 🙌 -Edgar
@ThatstaticGTI. 2 жыл бұрын
cant even get good fitment with a stud conersion static.
@danielmoger7308 2 жыл бұрын
Oooo 18s after post
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
📀📀📀 mixtape! -Edgar
@MN-vw2lo 5 ай бұрын
I needed a spacer to clear my brakes, the face of the wheel was hitting them
@The_GamingChef 2 жыл бұрын
OEM wheels on a car it doesn't belong on is the best spacer use
@alexh8754 2 жыл бұрын
video starts at 4:38
@cagr7208 2 жыл бұрын
are lowering springs worth it ? Lol
@randomtoyotadude8952 2 жыл бұрын
Might be worth it, BUT in some countrys, they are NOT legal to use on the street
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man.. Do you know any specific ones?! -Edgar
@randomtoyotadude8952 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries Yes, norway.. it might be the hole EU..
@Sir.Munoz.1117 2 жыл бұрын
Stock wheels and spacers for me, im broke
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
We do offer financing! 🤘🏾 -Edgar
@_tokii__ 2 жыл бұрын
1:39 😏
@jacobsevelius7181 2 жыл бұрын
Troll Hunter all the way!
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
👾👾👾 -Edgar
@lukasreineborg 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Alright alright alright. -Edgar
@WesTECH 2 жыл бұрын
Did you fire Jels? WTF?
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Nope! Gels is still around, just giving other homies that are knowledgeable a chance. 🙂 -Edgar
@anthonykristjansson3104 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and stuff but can We please have a little less of the balloon popping animation
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Noted and mentioned! -Edgar
@natsunakusunagi9214 2 жыл бұрын
hi
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
🧠🧠🧠 hola! -Edgar
@tarzaan2603 2 жыл бұрын
Welp, here I go, off to ebay to look for spacers
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
💀💀💀💀 best be careful! -Edgar
@tarzaan2603 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries ill be fine right? Just 1.25 inch spacers for better fitment, i dont race or even go fast so it should be fine right?
@oh-when6450 2 жыл бұрын
Tacos are the greatest edgar, maybe yell at them more and you might get in control....
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Im going to try! 🤘 what are you favorite thing on tacos besides the steering wheels? 👀 -Edgar
@oh-when6450 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries Quick releases
@socialscaper312 2 жыл бұрын
We want alex back!
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Hes still around! just giving other people a try 🙂 -Edgar
@pawerRanjerah Жыл бұрын
Why not just buy the right set of wheel.
@nathantowe4148 2 жыл бұрын
I like this guy.. but stop with the black ink thing it’s too much
@simp_slayer8103 2 жыл бұрын
Day 9 of asking for “So you want a 2nd gen Lexus IS?”
@juliussayavong5219 2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Ello! -Edgar
@rmrobertoss 2 жыл бұрын
562st
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
📦📦📦📦 -Edgar
@michelfurman7966 2 жыл бұрын
Day 244 of asking for a "So you want a nissan juke"
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
🌯👹🌶 -Edgar
@michelfurman7966 2 жыл бұрын
@@FitmentIndustries this 🌯 looks spicy as hell... be careful the whole building might burn down
@Soltor1974 2 жыл бұрын
First rep wheels now spacers what’s next ? Cutting your stock springs? 🤡
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah wouldnt do that. 🤡 -Edgar
@hewbambam 2 жыл бұрын
Day 375 so you want a suzuki vitara
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
🐿🐿🐇 -Edgar
@buya_pr 2 жыл бұрын
Please let Alex do what he does best... the talking! Nothing personal but he is just better at it 🤷♂️ 🤷♂️
@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sam is doing a swell job! -Edgar
@michaelbryant4772 2 жыл бұрын
blah blah blah....newbies should only care about 1 thing.."hub centric"
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