Arrma Senton Keeps burning up MOTORS! 😠😠🤬WHY?😠😠🤬

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Rainman Ray's Repairs

Rainman Ray's Repairs

3 жыл бұрын

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@carlosvillafane9051
@carlosvillafane9051 2 жыл бұрын
When you go to a lower turn motor, the motor is meant to spin at higher RPM (Higher kV). You must change the pinion gear to a smaller pinion gear to prevent the motor from overheating. Utilizing the stock pinion gear that came with the vehicle (usually larger for a higher turn motor. The stock motor is typically a brushed 27 turn Mabuchi type one), will cause too much current draw from the ESC and over tax the motor, ESC and Battery because it cannot spin up as quickly as it should. Higher turn motors have more torque and run at lower RPM so they can handle a larger pinion gear, Lower turn motors like the 12T I see here are lower torque higher RPM and need smaller pinion gears.
@chrismechanic2000
@chrismechanic2000 3 жыл бұрын
a 12 turn motor is very hot, i.e it draws a lot of current and will heat up fast, i used to use 19 turn motors on an old e-maxx and they were bad enough. best advice is throw the motor, esc and nm-hi pack in the bin that's shit old tech now, buy yourself a brushless motor and esc kit and swap over to li-po battery packs, you will have 3x the power and 3x the fun, you might break the drive shafts with all the power brushless has. once a brushed motor gets so hot it melts the soldier joints its only fit for the bin.
@shadowbanned69
@shadowbanned69 3 жыл бұрын
Replace the ecm! It’s got a bad resistor that’s spiking the amperage to the motor. Had this same thing happen on a hvac unit a few times.
@chrisbailey5055
@chrisbailey5055 3 жыл бұрын
Its been a while since I messed with electric R/C...chop off the noise capacitor and see if that fixes it...the capacitor may be going bad causing a short to ground....
@laservlx
@laservlx 2 жыл бұрын
Replace the esc .. Has the same issue with my tactic esc. Burnt up 2 new motors. Got a 1080 esc and been flawless since
@FullMaxx1
@FullMaxx1 2 жыл бұрын
Check to see if it has a plug to switch from nicad to lipo... my Arma granite does... could be wrong setting or battery
@philllsxga.7737
@philllsxga.7737 3 жыл бұрын
Is the brush shorting out?? Mine snapped out of place on my dewalt drill I fixed it.. Go brushless!!
@ryer55pro97
@ryer55pro97 Жыл бұрын
Try to add a heat shield thing on it it will help with the heat build up.
@issacb9834
@issacb9834 8 ай бұрын
Get a spectrum motor for with a cooling fan
@meshagesdh
@meshagesdh 2 жыл бұрын
I found out my bearing on the clutch is bad on mine today and is why I burned up a engine.. its cracked and lock so it's spinning on the engines case
@davidstewart2110
@davidstewart2110 Жыл бұрын
It ain’t got no gas in it mmmmm
@waragainstmyself1159
@waragainstmyself1159 13 күн бұрын
😂
@nicholasero154
@nicholasero154 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same car except mine is a brushless
@LPMeternum
@LPMeternum 3 жыл бұрын
Convert to brushless.
@parkeredwards3763
@parkeredwards3763 3 жыл бұрын
The problem that you are having may relate to a short in the esc, it may be causing some of the power to be combining in the motor.
@parkeredwards3763
@parkeredwards3763 3 жыл бұрын
If you have an esc of another truck you may be able to test it with that and see if the problem persists. I personally run brushless motors but I have seen this happen.
@GarnRcN
@GarnRcN Жыл бұрын
I recommend looking into a brushless blx setup I run lipo batteries but the spektrum esc and motors are quick and easy but this being said everything drive train is different the run steel carrier and bigger mesh of pinion and spur. Brushless will chew these mega clutch spur quick. That was with a 3s batteries going full beans. Do not cheap out on esc and motor there are several other companies with bigger and better but it's easier to find stock replacements almost burn my senton to the ground with a goolrc but it was not the correct amperage later I found out when I found the box. Also if debris is a problem I suggest the big rock bumper and body. I'm actually running a out cast 6s fbody on my senton with big rock bumpers. Or swap a rear bumper for a wheelie bar and go granite body whatever you do if you're going to race trade the side bumpers for the big rock skirts to help with the mess. To come back to reply here the mega esc are cheap and easy to find it's just how long does it have. Can't complain I got a granite mega for 6 months no issues with it. Kind of cool to see this after stumbling upon the channel with the daily technician talk and shop noises makes me miss shop work now I'm a counter men and customers are something else. Also hello from the 406
@hellhound-si5oz
@hellhound-si5oz 2 жыл бұрын
I would put a brushless motor kit in
@JeremyMitts
@JeremyMitts 2 жыл бұрын
It needs more brake cleaner.
@justinfraziet6843
@justinfraziet6843 5 ай бұрын
ESC IS BAD. OR YOU HAVE WIRES backwards somewhere
@SwampDonkey225
@SwampDonkey225 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching oldest to newest
@floppychzcake7936
@floppychzcake7936 3 жыл бұрын
if it's not the esc try buying a new motor, they're cheap. Can get a good one for about 20-30 bucks
@atticstattic
@atticstattic 3 жыл бұрын
He's already done that multiple times....
@jameswag8473
@jameswag8473 2 жыл бұрын
Switch to a brushless motor.
@wwjoshdew
@wwjoshdew Жыл бұрын
Exactly. With a heatsink!
@crowley92399
@crowley92399 3 жыл бұрын
Arrma had a bad batch of esc. I have seen many start on fire. I would replace the esc and NOT use theirs.
@mase9975
@mase9975 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the hobby and those brushed motors are garbage, go with a traxxas 550 12t or if you can find them a helion 550 12t oh and while your at it buy some electric motor cleaner for rc hobby motors or buy the arrma brushed esc/motor combo. Make sure you do a good break-in for brushed motors. Hobbywing esc/motor combo 60amp with the program card for 1/10 scale and it's brushless so you will need a lipo battery with a lipo charger.
@mase9975
@mase9975 2 жыл бұрын
I went brushless and upgraded all my rc's with mip axles otherwise much plastic axle snappage is in your future.
@dyizhere
@dyizhere 3 жыл бұрын
Too much gearing for that motor. Try to change your pinion and spur gear to a lower gear ratio.
@dyizhere
@dyizhere 3 жыл бұрын
That motor is a 12T and the stocker was probably a 27T.
@dyizhere
@dyizhere 3 жыл бұрын
@Klip One nothing to do with friction. Put it this way....if you have a big mud truck with big tires and a v8, it’s optimized to run with that setup with that gearing. You then pull the original v8 that came with the truck and put in a 4 cylinder. Obviously that 4 cylinder has to work harder to turn the drivetrain but it can’t, which causes heat from strain.
@TheMetalsoft09
@TheMetalsoft09 2 жыл бұрын
Brushed motors with Fans are known for this. Traxxas has the same issue. Horrible design. Just go brushless or replace with a brushed motor without a so called " cooling fan "
@justinfraziet6843
@justinfraziet6843 5 ай бұрын
ESC** not ECU.
@MrDueyx99
@MrDueyx99 3 жыл бұрын
did you buy this new? I wonder as well if the gearing is too tall for the stock 12t motor, but that does not explain the motor running too hot while bench testing. Brushed motors with a bit of timing built in, will run harder one way, and slower the other. If the truck is setup to run the motor on the slower direction, it will surely overheat. I would think that you would notice this while pulling the trigger and the truck goes into reverse, unless there is a throttle reversing switch on the radio, im not sure which radio you have.
@RainmanRaysRepairs
@RainmanRaysRepairs 3 жыл бұрын
Yea everything is stock and I bought it new. The gearing is stock also. After it roasted the second motor I replaced the speed controller and it smoked another 12t. I just installed one last motor which is the Arrma OE 12t (the other replacements we different manufactures) If it does it again I'm just going to convert it to brushless.
@MrDueyx99
@MrDueyx99 3 жыл бұрын
@@RainmanRaysRepairs ive only had experience with the traxxas 550 size 12 turn motors, they are junk as well, it does not surprise me that the motor arrma is using is no good for this app., probably fine for a 2wd sct, but not a 4wd
@DakalaShade
@DakalaShade 3 жыл бұрын
@@RainmanRaysRepairs From someone who has experienced both brushed and brushless RC trucks, going brushless would still be a good idea. More torque, more runtime. Can't blindly bash it through water, admittedly, but there's a lot of potential. Just keep in mind, if you drop a brushless motor in there, be prepared to start replacing transmission components, because that extra torque has to go somewhere. I like to leave a mechanical fuse, an easy-to-replace part that you carry spares for, a part you know will give up long before you risk damage. I don't know Arrma at all, but for my Traxxas Rustler VXL, that easy part is the ring gear. I kept mine plastic, because I'd rather strip all of the teeth off of my gear and spend ten minutes opening the cover, swapping in a new gear, and putting it back together than to spend two weeks waiting on transmission parts again.
@RainmanRaysRepairs
@RainmanRaysRepairs 3 жыл бұрын
@@DakalaShade I like your logic why regards to a mechanical fuse. I think that's exactly what I'll do when this 12 burns up again. For the money I spent on the 2s setup and replacement motors, I should could have bought a brushless to begin with. I knew better.
@jalee6587
@jalee6587 2 жыл бұрын
Motor is too low on turns. Arrma senton drivetrain is very power hungry also. Lots of parasitic loss in all the plastic gears. Go with brushless and stay under 4000kv rated motor.
@da66er74
@da66er74 2 жыл бұрын
Superhuman automotive technician bested by children’s toy
@Ralph_Baric_PhD_C2019
@Ralph_Baric_PhD_C2019 Жыл бұрын
click
@jesusisalive3227
@jesusisalive3227 2 жыл бұрын
Bad esc!
@Rekuzan
@Rekuzan Жыл бұрын
12T motor; well there's yer problem right there. It needs a motor with less turns on the com. 12 turn motors are for the high end RC trucks; Traxxas, Losi or Team Associated. Not to mention, you can tell just by looking at it that the motor itself is cheesy cheap. High end RC motors aren't factory sealed, can be torn down in minutes, and the brushes are mounted outside the casing for just this reason. I'd say you got a few hundred bucks the way it sits, but the rigs the pros use are several grand (and up)
@GrantWilliams66
@GrantWilliams66 Жыл бұрын
A tip, don't quit your day job 😂.
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