ARROW CLOCKING DOESN'T REALLY MATTER

ARROW CLOCKING DOESN'T REALLY MATTER - Here's Why...

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Many these days think that if your bow naturally spins an unfletched arrow left or right that it is imperative to have fletches that also spin the same way. Left Clock=Left Helical, etc. The idea is that your arrow will lose energy and be less accurate if your fletchings have to overcome the natural roatation of the arrow out of the bow. But is this true, or does having fletchings on an arrow at all automatically keep this from happening? Lets find out together!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:41 - Test Explanation
2:25 - Clocking Test (Natural Arrow Spin)
4:30 20 yard Grouping test (Left vs Right Helical)
06:00 - 40 yard Test: Group Shot
9:25 - Results!!/Conclusion
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Пікірлер: 44

@johnbottone4996 21 сағат бұрын

Most of these queries began with traditional equipment, and I never saw a real difference! but when I used broadheads it did!

@farhansiddiqi6668 Жыл бұрын

this test would have been better if you have had broadheads on them

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

That’s true but the broadheads I’m shooting right now I have aerodynamics that make them spin even with no fletching’s so I didn’t want them to skew the test

@decaturridgebees8761 Жыл бұрын

If i understand correctly, what causes a certain rotation whether left or right is the way your bow is strung. Meaning, the way the strings are spun. Not sure if you can request certain rotation when you have your bow restrung but it might be worth exploring. Lastly, if you have a left rotation and fletch your arrow for a left helical you need to keep an eye on your field points and broadheads for loosening.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of factors for it. The arrow build itself can be one factor. For instance Page Pearce (world champion target archer) demonstrated that one of her arrow builds rotated right one went left, shot out of the same bow. (Great short vid on her channel BTW) If it matters to you individually make sure you fletch on which way the arrow spins. But I'd you already have the arrows and have them fletched, you may not need to change anything.

@SRT8GSD Жыл бұрын

The only way they won’t loosen is if you fletch for a right helical. 90% of bows naturally spin arrows left just due to like you said how the string is spun together.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

I’ve been shooting the left helical for months and have never had the field tips loosen, and just hunted pigs and also Broadheads stayed tight. If you tighten them properly out of the gate you’ll be good. The rotational force applied by the arrow is not great. Most of the force is delivered by the Broadhead wedging through tissue and bone.

@SRT8GSD Жыл бұрын

@@ApexPredatorOutdoors guess I’m not tightening mine correctly then because I constantly have field tips loosening 😂

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

@@SRT8GSD lol No worries man I had some loosen when I was shooting right helical too. I just started putting a dab of beeswax or even bowstring wax on the threads. Also buying field tips with O-rings helps. Same with broadheads. Even my left bevel Broadheads don’t loosen.

@sheyanderson4371 Жыл бұрын

I wonder where the thought of "losing energy" came from? My initial thought is that spin creates stability and forgiveness, but more drag (drag=energy loss). If your arrow knuckleballs out of the bow first before the fletchings can take over, you would technically have less drag and energy loss. What would be significant, would be the stability and forgiveness of your arrow, especially with fixed blade broadheads. Any torqueing or element interference would be magnified if the arrow knuckleballs out of the bow. What distance that difference becomes significant at, probably depends more on the shooter when it comes to field points or mechanicals. With fixed blade, I personally wouldn't risk any loss of stability and forgiveness. If you purchase arrows pre-fletched, don't waste time and extra money to strip and refletch them. When it comes time to re-fletch them, switch them then. If you build your own arrows, you might as well take any advantage you can get from your bow setup. As for points coming undone, a dab of wax on the threads fixes that on points, and I even use a little plumbers tape on my broadheads before hunting. I have had them come loose without, but never have I had one come off completely when practicing. Appreciate the videos, keep them up and take care.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Thanks a million. I agree 💯%. I think it's just another thing that made sense on paper but not in practice... For field points I buy the ones with the rubber bands on them. They never come undone. As far as unscrewing broadheads... Never had that happen either. I use a wrench to tighten them so I Don't usually have issues with an animal or target unscrewing them. The rotational force doesn't seem to be that strong.

@HellYeahBrother89 Жыл бұрын

Hard to test the accuracy of the groups based on helical when you have such inconsistent form and with the wind kicked that high up…but this argument is something I’ve been curious about as well and appreciate the video.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think it was definitely not a scientific test. But the concept is the idea that it doesn't make enough of a difference to go out and change your whole setup for... Unless you just feel like it! My form has improved since this. I was having issues with my shoulder collapsing. Turns out my draw length on my bow had been set up a whole inch too short!

@johndenver5029 Жыл бұрын

Had a chuckle at that "little ball of head sticking out" lol

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

😂 Yeah I'm getting close to 40 and that baldness likes to poke out when I wear a snapback backwards!

@aaronsmith21 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video…I’ve been debating which way to fletch my arrows. Quick question: what bino harness is that?

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

It’s the marsupial bino harness. Latest video on the channel is a review of it!

@pennyontrack Жыл бұрын

Ranch fairy did some tests like this and into targets and ballistic gel even different poundage bows penetrated about the same. He did some test with lab radar where the arrow is flying still and than you can see differences in energy down range

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

I remember that video. Between a three and a four fletch there was very little change, I remember that for sure.

@pennyontrack Жыл бұрын

@@ApexPredatorOutdoors yea I don’t think he tested left and right fletchings but was doing arrow weights and poundage and it all was about the same into targets but could be measured with the lab radar in flight. I have never found a arrow that clocked clockwise yet and I I fletch to the left but I also use blue lock tite on the threads so the broadhead doesn’t unscrew. It’s probably not that important but archery is a game of tweaking so I choose to keep the arrow spinning the same way

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

For sure. Sometimes any perceived gain is still a good thing even if nothing is actually gained in practice it leads to a peace of mind.

@darcywood4637 Жыл бұрын

Had this same conversation with a pro shop owner the other day. We are both left handed and have always shot right helical. Never made sense for the helical spinning towards the riser

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

In most cases it really doesn't make a difference. The fletchings (unless they're straight) will take over quickly right after launch and correct immediately

@jtslush 7 ай бұрын

@@ApexPredatorOutdoors I agree...I was testing mine today. Clocked counter clockwise bare shaft. Shooting right helical blazer vanes and from 6 feet they were clocking clockwise.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors 7 ай бұрын

@jtslush yup! The vanes take over so fast, and two different arrows can clock two different ways.

@gorankorovljevic810 Жыл бұрын

Did you try to shoot with half inch shorter draw lenght and to put your shoulder a bit lower?

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Actually recently I went up in draw length because I felt cramped. One thing I am bad at is foot position. I often want to stand 90 degrees from the target but it puts my shoulder in a bad spot I had to correct myself a few times during this shoot because due to work travels it had been about three weeks since I had shot my bow.

@Aldocello1 Ай бұрын

@@ApexPredatorOutdoors Youre def shooting too long length , shouldnt have to lean your head back as much as you do ... But if it works for you

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Ай бұрын

@Aldocello1 actually I was too short! That’s what was causing my shoulder to pop up. The bow shop measured me at 28”. I set it at 28.5. Still short. When I extended to 29/29.5” my shoulder fell into place way better. Been shooting it since and still shoot 29 on my Mathew’s LIFT 33 now. It feels good and I am way more accurate!

@sebastianfcs8335 Жыл бұрын

You can see a diff with Bhs.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

BHS?

@sebastianfcs8335 Жыл бұрын

Sorry ! Broaheads, mainly fixed blade ones

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Lol yes for sure!

@Aldocello1 Ай бұрын

Do the test before the product push !!! Then , hard to test without proper form , yours is all over the place ... Having said that , proper helical to arrow clocking makes a great difference , its been tested and proven by way better shooters than you and I ...

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Ай бұрын

Yeah this was shot during a period where I was trying to figure out my proper draw length I was too short and so my shoulder was buckling. I was 1 inch longer than what the shop told me to be and still too short. It was a week or two after this that I fixed it. That being said you’re right and wrong. Many people have tested this and there are several that have disproven it. For instance Paige Pearce, world champion archer did a video showing that through the same bow two different arrows can clock two different ways. The bow string twist and all that doesn’t matter. Clocking doesn’t really matter as the input of the arrow clocking is so quickly over-ridden by the fletching. Not saying other tests were a lie but they definitely could have been more thorough. Yeah in my current videos I have learned to talk about the sponsors after I get into it a ways. Thanks for watching man! I really appreciate it and appreciate the discussion!!

@Dutch.1722 Жыл бұрын

Off the bat I say no.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Lol yeah it's becoming a little big deal in the archery community but its usually based on a hunch, or a "it should".

@Dutch.1722 Жыл бұрын

@@ApexPredatorOutdoors iIf you believe it gives an edge,, its a Psychological advantage. I had many superstitions while competing the field target circuit.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

100%.

@paulhomsy2751 Жыл бұрын

Get better informed before deciding that you're an expert whose knowledge we all need...That chest pack is for rifle hunting. The absurdity of wearing one and pulling your bow over your head are very telling. You don't know what you're doing or saying.

@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Haha how is any chest pack for rifle hunting? You are showing your inexperience as they make a bow hanger for this very pack! 😂 A chest pack or “bino harness” as almost everyone else refers to it as is made for binoculars. This pack really only fits smaller binoculars as well which would not be as ideal for longer range rifle hunting, but is perfect for bow hunting. Make sure you are informed before making such comments. Have a good one.