Avengers Endgame: a FAILED Sequel?
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4 жыл бұрынI watched Avengers Infinity War again and again, yet I realized I only watched Avengers Endgame once, and never cared to see it again. Why is that?
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The only thing left is for Thanos to be in minecraft.
@sithalchemist 4 жыл бұрын
Best part of the film was when Thanos punched cap marvel so hard she left the movie till the funeral.
@aredjayc2858 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@video409 4 жыл бұрын
The only best part of the movie
@KiwiSpartan01 4 жыл бұрын
Punching her into the next dimension
@andrewfrank7222 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit... You went to see an Avengers movie butt hurt about SJW wokeness?? LMAO at you... How lame...
@mattblaster2378 4 жыл бұрын
Shut up frank
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420 4 жыл бұрын
Endgame Thanos wasn’t the same because he saw himself die when he was making breakfast.
@elysahatestostudy9364 4 жыл бұрын
That truly changes a man...
@janosd4nuke 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, but also a less emotionally mature self of Thanos've seen his 'just victory' taken away from him, so he threw a tantrum. And while that's problematic on some level, this more unhinged, straight evil murderboi was a good solution to a final challange, and making sure, the original, more nuanced Thanos don't steal the show again from the Avangers as this is their finale... da Thanos event was Infinity War.
@arkavius2272 4 жыл бұрын
He just wanted to become Shrek, but instead of peasants with pitchforks, Thor with Stormbreaker knocked on his door.
@trevorphilips9065 4 жыл бұрын
@@elysahatestostudy9364 haha
@ch0getsu 4 жыл бұрын
After all 2014 thanos was still a brutal murderer and not a visoner like in infinity war
@MotorHead74808 4 жыл бұрын
For me, Thanos gave a humble vibe off in Infinity War. He portrayed his actions as a service such as that of a janitor: not as the cleanest or most noble deed, but as one that needed to be done. In Endgame, his goal was to control the Universe and make it his own. His backstory of the destruction his home are essentially thrown away, which make him less understandable and less relatable to his cause.
@peraltaman 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos witnessed his own death he was defeated it became personal
@rasya_hooman5359 Жыл бұрын
Ik im late af but i think that the point seeing his death and no one appeciate his hard work and sacrifice he start losing his main goal and that the reason he lost
@Promislandzion Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t that like exactly what was said in the video?
@sauravsaha7465 Жыл бұрын
@@rasya_hooman5359 Additionally he was basically "playing" Infinity War with "God Mode" (read Infinity Gauntlet) ON. So, of course he has time to seem humble and reasonable. He KNOWS he is going to win, so he can engage people and be nice to them and he also feels quite bad that so many have to be sacrificed for his goals to succeed. But that false humility ONLY exists when he is assured of his final victory even if it leads to his death. But in Endgame he realises that his final victory can be undone and that brings his God Complex out to the forefront. Faced with the possibility to failure he is willing to throw out the board and start a new game. And now we get how Thanos is really like when he faces a true obstacle to his grand vision.
@PerfectTroy1 Жыл бұрын
Your observation is correct. This is what happens when hack writers don't obey the Source material. The contradictory depictions occurred because the writers never understood Thanos in the first place.
@tumulovermelho93 4 жыл бұрын
The worst part of Adam Warlock not being there is that they introduced him at the end of Guardians 2 and did nothing with him since then
@Anonymous-zd1ow 4 жыл бұрын
It feels very two-faced what they did.
@Katyamuffin 4 жыл бұрын
I know! I was waiting for him to show the fuck up and he just never did. Why did they even tease him?
@DoubleO88 4 жыл бұрын
@@Katyamuffin he' appears in my fanfiction animation of endgame and infinity war if you check my channel.
@Anthony-nv9rq 4 жыл бұрын
João Paulo first off it’s called setting up for the future. There were already a ton of very powerful hero’s in infinity war and endgame. Not only that but that was something that was set up with James Gunn and so when Gunn was temporarily fired that delayed gotg3 thus the means to Adam warlock
@gustavopereira4924 4 жыл бұрын
@@Katyamuffin probably... I guess... The original plan was to introduce Adam Warlock but instead thank's to Disney they putted Captain Marvel
@FactualStuff 4 жыл бұрын
"You gonna wash your hands?" "No, because I'm evil."
@augingma5518 4 жыл бұрын
I cracked up on that scene and even my sister when she passed by me and heard my phone. So now I'm saying that.
@asianboi000001 4 жыл бұрын
Justice league unlimited was the best
@kaenachoo4783 4 жыл бұрын
Ezekiel Chang a good old Justice League unlimited! The flash in that show is funnier than all of marvels jokes.
@glenwaldrop8166 4 жыл бұрын
If DC let Bruce Timm run their movie universe they could compete against Marvel.
@brucedorion6642 4 жыл бұрын
Predicts Covid19
@nt9382 4 жыл бұрын
People called me a madman for preferring IW to EG. Reality is often disappointing.
@truthbetold9092 4 жыл бұрын
Because of what the critics and Rotten Tomatoes say. It's perfectly okay to have your own opinion. I award you. Sheep, amirite?
@Drriven 4 жыл бұрын
I agree . Infinity War is far better than Endgame. I have watched IW 15 plus times and Endgame just once , wouldn't wanna watch again.
@defencebangladesh4068 4 жыл бұрын
You're not alone
@heftymagic4814 4 жыл бұрын
@@truthbetold9092 its a thanos quote
@heftymagic4814 4 жыл бұрын
@@defencebangladesh4068 its a thanos quote
@samuelalexandre9934 4 жыл бұрын
when I said that I didn't like endgame the same way I liked infinity war, all of my friends laughed at me. it's good to know that there are more people who agree.
@houseofmatrix6174 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Endgame was Terrible , Infinity Wat was a Classic
@igormachado2194 3 жыл бұрын
@@houseofmatrix6174 Infinity War is infinitely boring. And the ending is one of the cowardliest shit I've seen in the history of american cinema.
@ClubberOntop 3 жыл бұрын
@@igormachado2194 I didn’t Like The Mcu After 2015 After AAOU It Was Boring As Shit
@jt6924 3 жыл бұрын
your friends were fools
@LordMalice6d9 2 жыл бұрын
I hated Infinity War. It is a movie for simple-minded people who like plots that could be written by an 8 year old.
@cracklasco 4 жыл бұрын
Why did it take so long to find a vid of someone agreeing with me about Endgame?
@yoursonisold8743 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because you are in the minority. What a shocking realization, am I right?
@AVDONE 4 жыл бұрын
It isnt just bc you are minority, it's something else. Since I watch the movie with my best friend and both agree on EG is basically an empty fan service product. We are still waiting more people like us raise their voices and believe its just a matter if time.
@yoursonisold8743 4 жыл бұрын
@@AVDONE You are still a minority. lol That *is* the only reason you see so few people taking that stance. It's because comparatively there are so few of them. Some people see flaws, but aren't nearly as whiny about it as you people, but that's about it. Nobody is being suppressed. If the majority thought that way about Endgame they wouldn't hold back to talk about it, this is the internet, people always have extreme opinions. Ergo summarum: You are the minority. You are alone. Live with it.
@AVDONE 4 жыл бұрын
@@yoursonisold8743 woah (Iron Man's face at a silly statement)
@yoursonisold8743 4 жыл бұрын
@@AVDONE Hahahaha. Pathetic. RDJ would be rolling his eyes at you all day long though.
@IronDragon-2143 4 жыл бұрын
I'd choose Endgame over Game of Thrones season 8 any day of the week.
@syrozzz 4 жыл бұрын
I'd choose Suicide Squad over Game of Thrones season 8 any day of the week.
@andrewfrank7222 4 жыл бұрын
Not even in the same conversation. How dare you
@mikejubb1353 4 жыл бұрын
That is like saying i would rather chop my right hand of instead of my left. You may use your right hand for more things LOL but both are really shit options
@glenwaldrop8166 4 жыл бұрын
8 days a week...
@jeweerly2319 4 жыл бұрын
@@glenwaldrop8166 that, is the joke
@robertb7293 4 жыл бұрын
I want whatever youtubes subtitles are smoking; "It's warm here." "What's warm here?" "A dominion of death and despair. Where that house murdered my sister."
@bravobird9435 4 жыл бұрын
*Fate apocrypha intensifies*
@tastyloaf5487 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite auto-sub snafu was in a Sargon video: > *Sargon:* _"You just need a big cuddle, don't you dear?"_ > *Auto-Sub:* _"You just need a big cock-pumping, dear."_ Holy crap, I wish I could remember the video.
@RitsuCurisu 4 жыл бұрын
@@tastyloaf5487 Wait, is there a difference? Oh no...
@tngtrivedi 4 жыл бұрын
That house murdered my sister
@defencebangladesh4068 4 жыл бұрын
Oops
@carwyn3691 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if in LOTR after throwing the ring in the volcano they had to spend another 100 pages walking back to the Shire and bitchslapping a Saruman who just came up out of nowhere. Oh... nevermind
@christianwassenius3201 4 жыл бұрын
I came this far into the video and thought the exact same thing
@riograndedosulball248 4 жыл бұрын
Yet it is still a perfect ending for the trilogy
@afarce4172 3 жыл бұрын
It did actually make sense for the events in the books, but yeah, even though it made sense for the events in the world, for a story it was exceptionally odd.
@DarkAngelEU 3 жыл бұрын
@@afarce4172 It's not odd to have an aftermath. Hollywood has turned movies into the stale Happily Ever Afters PSA pitches in this video. End Game basically is an aftermath movie to Infinity War, trying to tie the loose ends in and they did it quite phenomenally.
@sqwirl31trkpny94 3 жыл бұрын
Ehhhh, it's more like if they reach the volcano and throw it in, but if they don't beat him he's gonna get the ring back and with even more power
@WillRock07 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's quite interesting because you can tell that they wrote Infinity War with such a clear vision but didn't really have much of a clue what would happen after it. I feel like they had this inspiration to write an amazing story where "The Bad Guy Wins" but after he does, they looked at it and probably tossed up about 10 million ideas of how to conclude the saga in a way that ties up everything in a neat little bow - and while I think they DID succeed in a sense, you can tell that Endgame was much much more difficult for them to write because they didn't really know how to conclude the story.
@jaydenc367 10 ай бұрын
No they did have a clue of what would happen after it, they filmed both films back to back after all. I doubt that is what happened, give some more credit to the Russo Brothers here, and they did know how to conclude the story.
@csfelfoldi 4 жыл бұрын
"Hey guy's what do we do with Strange? He can kinda one shot Thanos's whole army." "Uhm, let him hold some water." "Whaaaa???!!! okay..."
@cygnusprime6728 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow i completely forgot about that weird scene. Strange was holding his own against thanos with 5 stones but then they completely neglected him. Weird.
@Pauline__ 4 жыл бұрын
Cygnus Prime *4 stones
@cygnusprime6728 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pauline__ what difference does it make? The point is it was lazy writing to get strange out of there since he could have taken care of a regular thanos with low difficulty, especially if he was assisted by cap Thor and stark.
@Pauline__ 4 жыл бұрын
@@cygnusprime6728 Exactly. Most of those plot holes could've been avoided if they'd just kept Thanos insanely strong like he's in the comics
@cygnusprime6728 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pauline__ it was like they weren't 100% sure if they actually wanted to use him despite already appearing in several films and being integral to the plot. Reminds me of how galactus "appeared" in the fantastic four movie and got off screened by the surfer. Marvel Studios chickens out with powerful characters.
@_S0LUS_ 4 жыл бұрын
"We need to make a time machine!" Tony made one. "We need the stones!" Got 'em. "We need to make the gauntlet!" Done. "We need to use the gauntlet!" Also done and now everyone is back. Aaaand NOW Thanos shows up. After they've accomplished everything. Why not have Thanos chasing them in the past? With him interfering at every stone? You establish branching timelines so you don't need consistency, so why not do this?
@kyriss12 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda would have preferred they did something like the comic sequel to infinity war. The Avenegrs catch a massive wave of energy from the infinity gems that's impossible to miss. Track it to thanos' planet where the entire place is a smoldering ruin, and thanos is beat to shit with his snapping arm ripped clean off. He warns them about this crazy guy called the Magus who came out of nowhere and proceeded to wreck his shit all while ranting about unmaking reality itself. SO they gotta team up with he guy who destroyed half the universe to try and track down a guy who wants to finish the job, in a race to collect a number of mcguffins.
@yoursonisold8743 4 жыл бұрын
Because that's not what the movie was about. It was not about the ultimate confrontation and struggling with villains. It was about overcoming despair, depression and hopelessness. Thanos already won. They lost the conflict. Then they killed Thanos and accomplished nothing. By getting back together and fixing the world they defeated their "enemy", which is their own failure.
@joshadcock2330 4 жыл бұрын
Remember how much effort Rocket and Thor had put into crafting stormbreaker? They traveled to a different planet, saw the aftermath of Thanos destroying Peter Dinklage’s world. That was an entire subplot in Infinity War. In Endgame, Tony Stark designs an Infinity Gauntlet and a time machine off screen in like less than a week. You could cut the tension with a butter knife.
@_S0LUS_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshadcock2330 EXACTLY
@OrangeUtan1 4 жыл бұрын
Why would Thor let him live? That doesn't seem very likely
@dannyd464 4 жыл бұрын
The infinity War was the last one for me that's how my Marvel ended. Also they went after Back to the Future trilogy not once but twice to justify their own story and that's unforgivable.
@nateofthesouth 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Infinity War was a good final movie.
@WilliamsWrestlin Жыл бұрын
@@nateofthesouth yep
@GeminiHiro009 4 жыл бұрын
Omg. At 15:05 when you're talking about Thor making the SNAP. I felt more tension listening to you than I did watching the entire movie.
@nicosmind3 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the Hulk "polite conversation" stone winning. He got knocked out of his body and had to use intelligence and passion to win. Though it would have worked better as a punchline if we seen everyone else struggling more. No one expects the Hulk to use his brain
@F1rstWorldNomaD 4 жыл бұрын
I just like the concept of a polite Hulk... It's like someone presenting you dry water, quite mind blowing.
@newfate26 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the idea of it, but it doesnt work with THIS Hulk. If we'd had say Savage Hulk or one of the similar variants then it could've played off of the Banner/Hulk dynamic.
@samdurfee6093 4 жыл бұрын
The real problem with Hulk is not that he's Professor Hulk now, it's thrice fold, 1 we didn't see that events that lead up to this change only the setup in Infinity War, 2 Hulk needed the Soul Stone Scene where he's see Natasha, so that they'd get some kind of closure, 3 hulk didn't get to fight Thanos one last time, Hell Infinity War started with their fight, and if Hulk had been the last wall between Thanos and Stark it would have been awesome.
@syrozzz 4 жыл бұрын
@@samdurfee6093 Agree. Hulk's character arc was a total waste. Why on earth his transformation into professor Hulk was offscreen? That has been built up during several movies and then out of nowhere 'oh we just had to talk, don't bother'. Overall the character felt totally underused. He had to be the one that beat up thanos at the end, he needed his redemption too. But Captain Blunt Marvel oddly took his place there, despite having no involvement in the whole avenger story.
@ProxyDoug 4 жыл бұрын
@@samdurfee6093 Imagine if Hulk was the one to go with Nat instead of Hawkeye and he realized he just can't kill himself to give her the stone.
@newrenaissance 4 жыл бұрын
So THAT’S why you needed « it’s y’a boy Adam »
@joshuafogg6600 4 жыл бұрын
And they actually set up Adam in a post-credits scene - ironically a better buildup than the entirety of Captain Marvel.
@Abracadhabrah 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if, in Lord of the Rings, the four hobbits had to fight Sarumane in the Shire for 50 pages after Sauron was defeated.
@justnoah2073 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't that actually happen though? I actually don't remember his death in the books but that sounds familiar.
@Abracadhabrah 3 жыл бұрын
Noah Shackelford that would be amazing ! :p Edit: But yeah it did happen, that's why I mentionned it. It's weird in the book but doesn't feel that out of place because you see the hobbits having actually learned from their journey.
@raifencharles3680 3 жыл бұрын
@@justnoah2073 the scouring of the shire my friend
@gerardmourits8709 4 жыл бұрын
The soulgem gamora was in was destroyed by thanos at the start of the movie. The soulgem Hawkeye brought back only had Natasha's soul in it.
@bulfam5618 4 жыл бұрын
They probably could have bullshit explained it as the infinity stones can't be destroys but their physicality has changed and they're just atoms. And Gamora still existed because the stones are theoretically still there. But it might take centuries for the stones to reform.
@gerardmourits8709 4 жыл бұрын
@@bulfam5618 Still a different timeline the gem was collected before gamora's soul was sacrificed
@barbarianjk2355 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could have made it that the stones are connected through different timelines.
@magicznygosc9718 4 жыл бұрын
Right. Then, base on the little Gamora, we could have maybe not little Natasha?
@alfiemoloney1163 4 жыл бұрын
But now both souls are gone as theatre soul gem was brought back thus Natasha's soul was in the gem before gamora and since it was the same gem both are now gone
@manguy01 4 жыл бұрын
This is also why they cut "The Scouring of the Shire" from Lord of the Rings.
@turtleanton6539 4 жыл бұрын
Goodchoiche
@TheMaestroMizerous 4 жыл бұрын
For good reason wish they went through with that on the Hobbit trilogy.
@biffodio 4 жыл бұрын
There's a half-hour of boredom after the Ring is destroyed. That was a bad example for the argument he's making.
@blackknight4152 4 жыл бұрын
@@biffodio Not at all, you didnt get the point. After the destruction of the ring there is no more conflicts that drive the story. its just a long good bye, similar to the funeral in endgame. The difference is that The climax fight happens at the same time as the emotional moment, while in end game we get the climax fight after the point of our emotional investment is over. the funeral its fine, cap fixing all the changes and coming back is fine, not main plot of the movie, just the ending, If they would have added "the scouring of the shire" then lotr would have been a clone of end game structure wise, a new conflict appears after the main goal of the film is over, the emotional investment is off, yeah our heroes might fight one last time, but the world is no longer in danger, there is no dark lord, just a losser trying to get back at the hobbits, same with Thanos at Endgame, everyone comes back and the stakes are artificially introduced with so many coincidences that make it a thing, ( Hulk using the gauntlet just before thanos arrives). Point being the main plot of the movie, is over before the actual plot ends, which is a waste of viewer emotional investment, partly regained with Stark last move, but forced on the overall structure of the film.
@Sefoskiii 4 жыл бұрын
biffodio You did not understand his point at all. The 30 minutes after the Ring is destroyed are just goodbyes. There’s no conflict. And after a nine hour epic, it’s important to say goodbye to the characters but also, show the effects that the journey had on the protagonists. Something more films ought to do. To call it boring shows that you weren’t that invested in the films to begin with. I think it’s a perfect conclusion
@wilburforce8046 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the only version that would have worked would have been some more conflict before the snap, then what we get. Because having our heroes snap and win in all ways feels kinda like a cheese move. We needed the whole MCU vs Thanos. (And that was likely the original idea)
@tizyman7120 4 жыл бұрын
There was no Happy ending
@ryanreiniche3969 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah tony died, Natasha died, Steve is old and will die soon, it’s not very happy. Also, vision never came back, nor did loki, or heimdall
@ryanreiniche3969 3 жыл бұрын
@1Yan00 to be fair this was before wandavision and loki
@PrimalDragon1740 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I feel like Tony should have snapped everyone back as he snapped away Thanos and his army
@InfernosReaper Жыл бұрын
@@PrimalDragon1740 that would've been a pretty sweet scene. various people start appearing as the troops of thanos disappear, giving him taste of true defeat as the heroes finally triumph
@peepeepoopoovdbhxvbcc6683 4 жыл бұрын
Does he say “THAY-NOS” ironically or not because if not I’m gonna have to let a couple brain cells go
@jrapattii9941 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said excactly what i was wondering
@Morpheus0000 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. What is that. No one says THAY-NOSE!
@Morpheus0000 3 жыл бұрын
@Otneimica good spot, but at least he says THAYNOSS, this guy ups it to thay-NOSE!
@josephercanbrack8393 4 жыл бұрын
I've honestly had tons of problems with this film ever since I saw it, and I've been disturbed that it hasn't been criticized as much as it should have.
@andrewfrank7222 4 жыл бұрын
And here is a post without any criticism.... Irony much?
@michaelnoergaard922 4 жыл бұрын
agree
@saltyk9869 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like people will start to criticize Endgame in the future. Probably not a lot, as it is still a decent film, but it certainly pales in comparison to Infinity War. Alternatively, people will forget Endgame even exists, but still praise Infinity War.
@randomdude189 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Ercanbrack the world is falling into a dark spot where it’s easy and comfortable but it’s apathy and indifference
@zachtemoro2116 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with Endgame is that I cannot really critique because its not a movie in a general sense. Its fan service, and thats not the same as saying it doesn’t have plot holes. We knew they were gonna come back, it was just a matter of how, with time travel being the most likely of the scenarios. After the first 30 minutes, its just fan service, until the last 30 minutes which is supposed to be the end of the Infinity saga. Its a fun time because its fan service, its not a stand a lone movie like the majority of the MCU movies. Its all the movies wrapped in one, and its supposed to be a live letter to MCU fans. I personally just can’t look at this movie though and judge it for the plot holes that are there for that reason. Its supposed to be stupid and fun
@3Andzia3 4 жыл бұрын
"something about it just didn't clicked the way Infinity War did".... ....How are you reading my mind and please stop that.
@bipstymcbipste5641 4 жыл бұрын
Right? it's almost creepy or maybe great minds think alike
@CabezasDePescado 4 жыл бұрын
When you start talking about the time travel scene, you are skipping a lot of issues that were before in the movie...
@yogadan3924 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part was how they handled Hulk's MAJOR character change off-screen and with a throwaway line...
@Giggles_iJest 4 жыл бұрын
Thor can't redeem himself. He's a straight, white male in 2019.
@kostaspassias3815 4 жыл бұрын
Plus, they want to put him down to make Natalie Portman and Tessa Thompson look better, because they know no one likes them and treir movies will bomb.
@johnbishop2536 4 жыл бұрын
@aydooknow Ummm he was making a joke about something that often does headline these days especially for Joker coverage and Bri Lawson's shenanigans. Am I lying?
@danydady6851 4 жыл бұрын
@aydooknow and you SJWs are the old SJWs. Everything triggers you.
@kungfuman82 4 жыл бұрын
@aydooknow So calling out hypocritical bullshit means you're participating in said bullshit? What kind of sense does that make? Just admit you were triggered by the original comment and stop wasting everyone's time.
@TailsWarrior38 4 жыл бұрын
@aydooknow Please call me triggered as well
@kektuss 4 жыл бұрын
Normal Person: Thanos Sitch: FAYNOS
@trumpwonhereistheevidenced4390 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it's spelly "thay-nos". If they wanted "thannos" they should've spelled it correctly
@JF-Sebastian 4 жыл бұрын
It isn't spelt "Thaynos" though is it?
@fitzhugh7463 4 жыл бұрын
JF Sebastian like how drano isn’t spelled “drayno”
@carlosdiaz7573 3 жыл бұрын
After almost 2 years I can say that Endgame was overrated as hell
@yourfatboy5359 3 жыл бұрын
True
@nicolasbolas2247 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't remember a single iconic scene outside the final battle
@abates17 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasbolas2247 Cap fighting Cap. Tony meeting his dad. Thor saying goodbye to his mom. Hulk meeting the Ancient One. And on and on and on.
@nicolasbolas2247 2 жыл бұрын
@@abates17 mediocre moments at best
@abates17 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasbolas2247 Sorry man, those are all iconic scenes. For reference, just check the internet. Sorry you don’t have a great memory.
@themk4982 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I don’t mind that Act 2 had little conflict, it was still fun to watch and you got to see some of the characters evolve. I think the problem was that the Thanos thing wasn’t connected. Nebula could’ve just like, not got caught. If the issue was that the time-travel didn’t work the way it should’ve and that their mission had to change in some way from that point it could’ve been perfect. Instead they needed a big battle.
@ADoughnutYay 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: PSA Sitch: Thane-ohs
@MercurialStatic 4 жыл бұрын
Probably realized his mistake during edit and was like ‘fuck it’
@chiffmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Red Skull does it too.
@cattrucker8257 4 жыл бұрын
@@chiffmonkey Sitch is Red Skull confirmed
@Dyndase-29 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Thanos is the best Villian on MCU, and they replaced him a boring Thanos.
@charismajayamandalap6650 4 жыл бұрын
IW is about thanos, endgame is about avengers..thats one thing u missed
@davidbujna8480 4 жыл бұрын
@PrexorAMVs No offense, but you can tell at a single glance the difference between the two Thanos(es?). One learned from his mistakes and made the job personal and won, one got cocky, because his future did it, and had his minions do everything until he was personally confronted.
@hulkinglasses7174 4 жыл бұрын
because they changed Thanos from being the main character to another CGI monster they had to beat. Defeating Thanos wasn't the goal of Endgame. That entire fight was just fan service since Thanos had no reason to show up
@davidbujna8480 4 жыл бұрын
@@hulkinglasses7174 Couldn't say it better. Endgame Thanos was there just so we could finally get the Assemble line alongside portals.
@hulkinglasses7174 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidbujna8480 Yeah Thanos's journey was already over but the Endgame Thanos just started his so he's gonna be more rash cocky. I mean everyone who could've stopped him was already dead (Odin, Ego, Ancient One) he had to wait for all of them to die before collecting the rest. Personally I felt more emotionally attached to Endgame than Infinity War as we saw the complete story of some of the heroes and was an emotional journey. And we had more time to get to know the characters and felt more sympathy over the course of 10 years rather than Thanos where we don't really know what he's like outside Infinity War.
@tshawtshi3040 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was saying. Every body was shutting me down
@Santoryu90 3 жыл бұрын
Different opinions
@spooplegeist5260 4 жыл бұрын
I saw this movie to get out of the rain while I was out doing field work. I took a phone call halfway through and had more fun talking about where I could catch lizards in town than I did watching this movie. I was bored out of my mind, even in the final fight.
@Off-Brand_Devin 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah. I forgot that Hawkeye never canceled his wife's phone plan and kept her phone charged for 5 years. I don't really care about things like that. It was a quick way to tell the audience that the snapped people were re-snapped back into existence. Still funny to think about, though.
@globalistgamer6418 4 жыл бұрын
Most likely her phone was considered part of her for the snap (snapped characters seem to disappear and reappear with clothing and small pocketed items that aren't held). The call itself is a bit shakier but she was plausibly in close proximity to wi-fi access at the point where she reappeared (slightly outside their house).
@histguy101 4 жыл бұрын
Or she called from the _*HOUSE PHONE*_!
@Off-Brand_Devin 4 жыл бұрын
@@histguy101 Nope! At 6:34 it says mobile. Plus, even if that wasn't the case, it'd be funny that Hawkeye has been keeping the house phone paid for while he's running around the world killing Yakuza. Either way, it's not a big deal and just kind of amusing to think about. What's weird is that I didn't get a notification for your comment. The video just popped up again in my recommends and I decided to watch it again. Then I saw my my original comment which you replied to two days ago. I'm betting that's the least interesting thing you've heard all day.
@histguy101 4 жыл бұрын
@@Off-Brand_Devin Maybe he kept the phone active, and hired a voice actor to occasionally call him from his wife's phone and pretend to be her, and leave him messages. "Hi honey. I just got home from getting the groceries. The kids are watching a movie. Be careful out there saving the world. love ya" Hawkeye- This is when I do my crying
@Off-Brand_Devin 4 жыл бұрын
@@histguy101 I like that. If they make a Hawkeye movie, that needs to be part of it.
@mikhailbychkov5042 4 жыл бұрын
PSA Sitch: *criticises Endgame* The internet : *So you have chosen... death*
@andrewfrank7222 4 жыл бұрын
If he made rational arguments... His dishonesty started in the first minute and lasted until I could not stomach the nonsense... Being a contrarian on KZfaq with bad rationale... Yawn...….
@forestelfranger 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewfrank7222 Yet you point out no flaw in their reasoning or logic. Just go believe me it's true.
@xVallan 4 жыл бұрын
@@forestelfranger yeah that dude has not exactly shown himself to be good in an argument, better not to pay much attention to what he says if you ask me.
@daytonaofcv6856 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people love endgame sooo much. It just wasn't that good, the fanboys brains glitched out and to them it is. Like flat earther level mental gymnastics. Whenever I try to talk about its shortcomings people just glitch out and can't handle it.
@NPC-vq3cl 3 жыл бұрын
reddit moment
@Raul_Menendez 4 жыл бұрын
Infinity War is more like Empire Strikes Back. While Endgame is Return Of The Jedi. Thats how I see it. But Return Of The Jedi have a better finalle battle.
@hanburgundy4317 3 жыл бұрын
Nah - Return of the Jedi is a great movie. Endgame is trash.
@AzumarillConGafasBv 3 жыл бұрын
Return of the Jedi is a great movie, Engdame isn't it
@unhandmeprrriest4601 2 жыл бұрын
All throne room scenes between Luke, Vader and The Emperor were some of the best cinema I’d ever scene - particularly the final part of the fight and Luke resisting the temptation of the dark side.
@account-pb2df 4 жыл бұрын
Guarantee all dislikes where from people who watched the first 40 seconds and found out it was judging endgame
@robobrain10000 4 жыл бұрын
We needed more stone action. Thanos needed to play with the stones more to make Endgame as good as IW.
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 жыл бұрын
The fight on Titan is detailed to perfection with the stones. Completely thrown away in Endgame.
@tizyman7120 4 жыл бұрын
To make it good they shouldn't have killed off Iron Man, make Fat Thor or Professor Hulk
@kwanelesosibo3293 2 жыл бұрын
A simple man .
@J64866 2 жыл бұрын
That and Base Thanos shouldn't of been so nerfed.
@abates17 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Repeating the same fight in Endgame would have been boring. Instead they tried something new.
@BAGELMENSK 4 жыл бұрын
A: *No one wanted to spend 7 years making a movie for getting each stone.*
@ch0getsu 4 жыл бұрын
Yess
@wifine1951 4 жыл бұрын
But could’ve been something. A threat just rising and rising and the audience knows what coming, but not the characters. I’d actually prefer that
@BlueKingNL 4 жыл бұрын
@@wifine1951 That's... what happened
@daedricknight1407 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlueKingNL I think the point was that it could've been better if there was a movie dedicated to the retrieval for each stone. I think the Soul Stone would be a major drag but I'd love to see a movie between Tony and his father.
@quintustheophilus9550 4 жыл бұрын
Boring Thanos = Thonos
@sseltrek1a2b 4 жыл бұрын
so right- i have no desire to see, "Endgame" again....was pretty disappointed...not anywhere near as good as, "Infinity War"...
@FB35959 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 The more you watch Endgame the more dumber it is 😂 Even with 2 directors and a Ghost Director/Producer/Executive this movie is still felt rushed
@kingdancekiller 4 жыл бұрын
I just couldn’t get into Endgame. They had Dr. Weird who could have killed Thanos with his sentient corn in like 30 seconds. It was even revealed in deleted scenes there was an alternate ending. Thanos: I am inevitable. DW: And I...... HAVE MORE CORN.
@trumpwonhereistheevidenced4390 4 жыл бұрын
IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS LAST TIME, ISN'T IT, STEVE-OS?!
@Rafael-rn6hn 4 жыл бұрын
"I am inevitable." is just a Matrix rip-off... with less sense
@umamagei 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rafael-rn6hn how, thanos won once before and he knew that, and then he thought he'd win again, makes perfect sense, what should he have said instead? "Teehee, now imma snap ya ;)"
@Rafael-rn6hn 4 жыл бұрын
@@umamagei Thanos says that line first after bragging he destroyed the stones with the stones (lol). Which soon after they go ahead and undo. Very evitable. The reason Thanos wins in IW is because the Avengers were not working together. Very evitable. There were so many close calls and honestly dumb luck involved it all rings very hollow. There is no actual inevitability here. So, regarding your argument, I'm not criticizing the use of the quote from the perspective of Thanos using a fancy word because he wants to sound cool. I'm criticizing it from the perspective of the writers using a fancy word because they want their script to sound cool, but actually lack the substance to make it have a deeper meaning. Contrast this to Smith's reason of using this quote, which admittedly isn't so great in that movie, but it at least hints at themes of premeditation, repeating cycles, etc. At the very least it calls back to the idea that Smith is tied to Neo, so Neo (the hero's) existence demands the existence of Smith as a sort of cosmic counterweight. Again, I'm not about to get into an deep argument about this, but the point is made. tl;dr It's about the deeper thematic resonance and allegory rather than "does this throwaway line meet the bare minimum threshold of acceptability".
@0gsrV 4 жыл бұрын
kingdancekiller here comes nova giving him the nova force making his corn 10x stronger
@TheEffectOfMass 4 жыл бұрын
The lack of threat in time travel is an issue, so are the other points made. My biggest issue is that they kill Thanos in the beginning. Having a past Thanos show up just felt like having cake and eating it too. It felt like a hollow victory. And add the fact that they used the stone already really just deflates the tension. Additionally, I think they really weakened Thor too. In Ragnarok he was unstoppable. Then in Infiity War they weakened him, until he got Storm Bringer. To which he was tearing up ships (Just like Captain Marvel did!!!). Not only does he have 1 hammer, but he has 2 and he is still a chump. What the heck!
@Astraeus.. 3 жыл бұрын
In Ragnarok he was unstoppable.... Sure. Except the part where his big sis crushed his hammer and he ran away. And then the part where a drunk Valkyrie managed to knock him out and capture him. Or the part where somehow electric shocks actually incapacitate him several times. And then the part where he decides on round 2 with big sis and she rips his fu@$ing eye out. And of course the only reason Hela doesn't kill him is because Loki revives Surtur who then destroys Asgard, which kills Hela because her power/life is directly tied to the planet... But yea, other than all that he was 100% unstoppable.....
@houseofmatrix6174 3 жыл бұрын
I agree it made Thanos pointless
@abdullahx4908 3 жыл бұрын
My issue with past Thanos was his lack of nuance
@InfernosReaper Жыл бұрын
@@Astraeus.. to be real, it bugged me how Thor had the spear of Odin and it was basically useless then thrown away. apparently, throwaway artifact weapons seems to be a signature of a certain director...
@alexeratops 4 жыл бұрын
17:35 It was never once confirmed that this was the "soul world" or even the soul stone. It was just a bizarre vision that Thanos had, facing true remorse for what he'd done. this whole soul world thing was a fan headcanon that just became so common that people pretended it was true with no actual evidence besides "the sky there is orange"
@dunkdon158 4 жыл бұрын
While I agree it would be more dramatic if they didn’t finish making the glove and snapping everyone back until thanos arrived, they needed to bring back everyone to have the huge satisfying return to battle with all of the superheroes
@CreamOMeme 4 жыл бұрын
PSA Snitch: How lame would it be if after Frodo destroyed the ring there was another, smaller battle? LotR book readers: 😀😄😅
@hi-cz8zd 4 жыл бұрын
Highlord Ynot Tom didn’t impact the story that much.
@dominicansoulsbourne5456 4 жыл бұрын
Iron man arc was good. What they did Thor and Hulk was awful. Time travel gimmick also sucked.
@TimothyJ.Lochhead 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Iron Man arc was brilliant and best part. It was a huge 3 hour epic capping off the 11 years of "phase IV" - so of course there was a lot of good, AND they played off of a lot of emotions - so people get emotionally attached and won't look at critically or logically. Outside of Iron Man and some moments here and there, they didn't have to poop on certain characters or create the inconsistencies within this story and the universe they created. Also the $2.8B mark (oh what a success) covers all the missteps when they could have easily smashed past 3B. That's also why so many people like PSA here only wanted to see once; not so much because it's over, but because deep down, call it a gut feeling or subconscious level, one really knows there's inconsistencies and let-downs but don't want to notice it or face them. The more you see it, the more you notice (well, potentially if you're open to it and the 'criticisms').
@trevorphilips9065 4 жыл бұрын
@Christian Tompkins But that was the exact same arc in Ragnarok
@trevorphilips9065 4 жыл бұрын
@Christian Tompkins and then he gets his hammer again completely ignoring Odin
@thejet7089 4 жыл бұрын
@Christian Tompkins Endgame was supposed to be the be all end all to major characters and they ended up turning Thor into a joke. his arc not being finished won't save THIS film from turning the guy into a joke.
@trevorphilips9065 4 жыл бұрын
@Christian Tompkins But he still took his hammer for no reason other than the Russos wanting Cap to shine
@AliRadicali Жыл бұрын
Thanos felt like a different character because he was: past-Thanos hadn't gone through all of the experiences that had made IW-Thanos such an interesting and complex character. In that sense, I do applaud Marvel for taking a risk and doing something pretty out there compared to conventional story telling. That said, it falls completely flat. Imagine a story where instead of confronting the bad guy head on, the heroes travel back in time and kill him as a baby. It'd be anticlimactic and terribly un-heroic. Or better yet, imagine a story where they don't even confront baby-bad, they just kill some random person because they know it'll alter the timeline and prevent the bad guy from becoming evil. The problem is that this solution completely side-steps the central conflict. It is a creative dodge, I'll grant that, but it's still unsatisfying because what we want and expect as an audience is for the central conflict to be resolved directly with some sort of direct confrontation.
@shayanbaig8837 4 жыл бұрын
The point that you make about emotional weight, the same problem BvS had.... the conflict was resolved and then suddenly... DOOMSDAY!!!
@zacariasnelson5753 4 жыл бұрын
I knew thanos was different in Endgame. Ppl trying to say "it's just cuz he isn't the protagonist anymore" naaah man. It's cuz he was big cgi bad guy now
@fightingmedialounge519 4 жыл бұрын
So basically this comment
@larryfoulkeofficial8609 4 жыл бұрын
@Erik Lerström its almost like you guys want to find a reason to complain about something despite the fact that there is an reasonable explanation for it.
@larryfoulkeofficial8609 4 жыл бұрын
@Erik Lerström idk you tell me
@larryfoulkeofficial8609 4 жыл бұрын
@Erik Lerström yeah cuz you were talking about yourself in said question
@larryfoulkeofficial8609 4 жыл бұрын
@Erik Lerström and yet people who like the movie are idiots for not agreeing with you?
@legionbeast 4 жыл бұрын
To me, it felt conclusive when Thanos snapped and ended everyone in Infinity war. It felt like a proper mournful goodbye and a way to clear the cast so that new blood could step in and take on the mantles. Ya know, like they ended up doing by the end of this film anyway?
@mrharold5455 4 жыл бұрын
They are literally called the Avengers. They avenge people. In Avengers 1, Tony even says "if we cant save the world, you can be dam sure we'll avenge it".
@dinochookproductions5190 4 жыл бұрын
yeah good idea except in the snap the OG cast remained whilst the majority of the newcomers died.
@tizyman7120 4 жыл бұрын
And then they could give a goodbye to Iron Man with an Iron Man 4 where he retired and had Morgan at the end
@tizyman7120 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinochookproductions5190 Ending don't mean death you dirty idiots
@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 4 жыл бұрын
@@tizyman7120 but redemption does most of the time, iron man started out as a villian until his own weapons nearly killed him, it made him good, and it took several films for death to come for him again. All of his problems are made by him, even thanos since if loki ruled earth then earth would just be a territory of thanos' army before stark destroyed that army, either way is bade since dusting or invasion but both are stopped by stark and result in his suffering, first ptsd and finally self sacrife.
@BlondeBlurDestry 4 жыл бұрын
Endgame was nothing but glorified fan service with a lot of plot holes.
@jc-fx3rp 4 жыл бұрын
Endgame has an ungodly amount of plot holes and lazy writing
@joekauffman9690 4 жыл бұрын
I rather watch paint dry than watch this boring forgettable movie
@oliverhargadon2316 4 жыл бұрын
What plot holes I'm interested
@Astraeus.. 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidcosloff What in the actual fu@$ are you even talking about? The version of Red Skull that guards the Soul Stone is literally nothing but the guardian of the Soul Stone. He's not some cosmic all powerful deity who can do whatever. Snapping away half of all life took the entire set of Stones and, as everybody already saw and knows, reversing it took the entire set as well. In case it's not obvious yet, Red Skull has NO power, much less the kind that could equal the Stones.
@toxicmar7111 3 жыл бұрын
David Cosloff that was the dumbest fucking idea I ever heard in my life. Like literally don’t ever think of any ideas ever....like ever...so stupid.
@DerezzedMan 4 жыл бұрын
Having Thor snapping would've been EPIC!!!!!! His character would've been redeemed forever.
@zoltanrostas-secola 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, what ruined Thanos's character for me was his ridiculous change in motive. I know he was full of vengeance for his plan not going his way but "I will shred this universe down to it's last atom" seemed so cliche and tacked on that it took away all the depth and buildup he had in Infinity war and made him look like a catchphrase spouting one dimensional Saturday morning cartoon villain, especially since he saw himself as his own hero in Infinity War weighed with the burden of feeling like the sole being capable of truly saving the universe. Perhaps a better motive of vengeance using the stones could have been snapping away all resources instead. That would create parallels with what happened to his own home planet on Titan as well as force people to see his worldview on what's best for the universe once they're dying and desperate. That would've still created tension and be consistent with his own lifelong goal. Just my two cents.
@globalistgamer6418 4 жыл бұрын
The most predominant part of his character development in IW - the experience of sacrificing Gamora - hadn't occurred for the 2014 Thanos, and IIRC the film is cut as if he wasn't able to discover it by the time the final battle begins (he doesn't treat Gamora with the expectation of upcoming betrayal that he does with regards to Nebula, even though this would make more sense if he had fully analyzed Nebula's data). His tone was already noticeably different at the beginning of IW compared to its end. Endgame takes the earlier Thanos, and instead gives him the opposite experience of an vicarious unearned success that he seems to be being cheated out of, plus the information to see that people didn't ultimately accept his 'salvation' of them in the way he had previously expected. I think this situation makes his differing characterization in Endgame quite plausible in the context of the story, even if he isn't as interesting a character in his own right, or perhaps as satisfying an opponent for the characters hurt in IW to face off against.
@someanimal3506 4 жыл бұрын
This is the ONLY problem I have with this movie. I thought this video was about that, but tbh, the alternate ending he described sucked.
@photonalchemist6574 3 жыл бұрын
Remember this is a different thanos who hasn't experienced the grief of losing gamera.
@thanos7459 3 жыл бұрын
they fucked up his plan
@medalgear654 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly killing thanos in the first hour of the movie for shock value was a big mistake. U get rid of the big baddie like he was nothing only to real replace him with younger and out of character version of himself? Why strip him of all the character development and menacingly interactions from infinity war. It just doesn’t feel personal anymore and it would. Make more sense for him to be angry and want to change his plans but they should’ve kept him alive for the final battle and not use any armies but his full strength and powers showing that not a single avenger or character is capable of Thanos alone. Having characters like scarlet witch captain marvel and a few normal women overpower him just elongates thanos as a threat.
@ryanswafford3681 4 жыл бұрын
Old timeline Thanos when he starts to get a whiff of what the Avengers are trying to do, doesn't know if he can trust what he's seeing. Has Nebs steal some of their time travel tech, then he travels to the only person he can trust... himself. He travels to OUR Thanos, post snap, moments before the Avengers show up to kill him. Old timeline Thanos fills in 'original' Thanos (the one from Infinity War) and he sees that the crazy bastards might actually succeed in UNDOING his magnum opus. He coldly slays himself, steals the time travel suit off his own fresh corpse, then travels back to thwart our heroes. So we get a final fight against *OUR* Thanos, not Darth Maul action figure past timeline Thanos. It would REALLY give the "I am inevitable" line some gravitas.
@robobrain10000 4 жыл бұрын
But, our Thanos was on the brink of death before the Avengers showed up. How would he even be able to take out a younger Thanos that is much stronger.
@trevorphilips9065 4 жыл бұрын
@@robobrain10000 Because he knows himself he's fighting styles
@extrident7950 4 жыл бұрын
Bro... YES! That isn't the best way to do it, but it would be way better than what we got. I didn't want to watch some bootleg Thanos who had no connection to any of the characters because he wasn't there for Infinity War.
@nooby165 4 жыл бұрын
That would break the rules of you cannot chsnge the past...wait...except if he did kill his future self and stopped the avengers only to return AS damadged as we saw him in that scene KNOWING he would die and after having created a closed time loop where he wins and the movie ends with him saying I am ineviteble and then dying... I would hate and love that XD
@davidbujna8480 4 жыл бұрын
@@trevorphilips9065 Yeah, same goes for the younger version.....so besides this irrelevant point, younger Thanos would win.
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@thedoc7184 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how the avengers actually finally did some avenging in their final movie
@91pancakes 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being the guy who was unsnapped at the avengers compound only to be yeeted by what thanos again.
@JohnMiller-fq5yf 4 жыл бұрын
i hate time travel. i can see your points and agree on them. but, when ever i think of endgame, the time travel just keeps coming to the front and reminds me of how much i hate that type of writing. great video.
@kyriss12 4 жыл бұрын
@Repo man Or they could do like the comics and have the Magus take the infinity gauntlet from thanos. So you have a situation where the Avengers have to work with the guy who destroyed half the galaxy, to stop a guy who want to finish the job, in a massive race to collect a bunch of extremely powerful maguffins.
@toufiq309 4 жыл бұрын
@Repo man one thing with that Thor time travel thing is he took his hammer from that timeline but he fucked that timeline completely because pretty sure Thor on that timeline needed that hammer on 2nd movie.
@s66s46 2 жыл бұрын
Time travel works great in movies like xmen days of future past
@cd8012 2 жыл бұрын
@@toufiq309 cap returned the hammer at the end
@Spoot401 4 жыл бұрын
Holy moly, this video finally compiled all my thoughts and made sense of them as to why Endgame just did not sit right with me! It all makes sense now!
@corentinesummers8259 Жыл бұрын
The way you and your video sounded like it feels like I was watching a documentary/commentary tv show from an old cartoon.
@superior2096 4 жыл бұрын
I felt it had some problems not just time traveling, I felt like they serewed up Hulk and Thor's characters... It lacks any real conquences in the end besides Cap, Tony and Widow.
@triplehelix3207 4 жыл бұрын
Hulk should have been the one beating the shit out of Thanos and then getting power punched away instead of captain marvel
@andrewfrank7222 4 жыл бұрын
"It lacks any real conquences in the end besides Cap, Tony and Widow." … And Gamora... And Thor's mental state... But you are right, none...
@more-reasons6655 4 жыл бұрын
22nd movie in and has the word END in the title and yet you're pissed off that there's no lasting consequences?
@jaydenc367 4 жыл бұрын
time travel made sense for the most part though and is fine, Hulk's character is fine too. Nah it had real consequences.
@forestelfranger 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewfrank7222 That what we call a strawman. the op never said there was no consequences. They clearly pointed out a few. Their main issue was messing up characters and not enough consequences overall, it having two few. Not that there wasn't any. They also play up Thor as a gag.
@Darth_Bateman 4 жыл бұрын
The whole reason this movie fell flat compared to infinity war was that the antagonist was gone for the first 3/4th's of the movie and the Avengers got the stones unchallenged. They really should have had boss fights in those quests. Like having Ebony maw go after one group. Proxima Midnight go after the other. Cull Obsidian go after the next and the big guy go after another with Gamora and Nebula chasing one more. The final battle was pretty good, but the fact that we had to sit through a 2 hour and 30 minute slog with no Thanos is kind of lame. It's also pretty shitty how they make Thanos go from layered 3-dimensional bastard who can be understood with and seen as a broken man with PTSD and a warped view of reality at best or seen as a wise man who can be agreed with at worse. Now he just devolved to Doomsday villain who deserves to get dusted.
@jaydenc367 4 жыл бұрын
well at that point he wasn't dumb he just knew his OLD plan was pointless plus the whole second arc thanos still appeared [just not to the heroes] it was slowly building up for him to appear
@trevorphilips9065 4 жыл бұрын
We should have had Ultron send 5 Ultron bots to each location make him the villain
@felynecomrade 4 жыл бұрын
Cull Obsidian is the big guy. You must mean Corvus Glaive.
@dabombinablemi6188 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this movie just makes me want to re-watch the Fifth Element.
@Round_Slinger 4 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled across your channel. Subbed. Love your voice, commentary, edits, etc. 👏🏿
@SierraSierraFoxtrot 4 жыл бұрын
You can't compare the infinity war stupid CGI war scenes to LoTR. Peter Jackson worked very hard to make sure the audience doesn't lose track of the people in his massive scenes, and he succeeded. Edit: I stopped the video and made this comment just before Sitch said he was going to talk about it. Great minds think alike.
@glitchyx6995 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a VFX worker, working for Infinity War, doing your best to make good CGI scenes, working extremely hard, only to have some random kid on the internet call your hard work "stupid CGI war scenes"
@soraceant 4 жыл бұрын
@@glitchyx6995 maybe do a better job then. the war fight was garbage.
@rafaeldeleon225 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Jackson's greatest work, wasted on Endgame football match.
@glitchyx6995 4 жыл бұрын
@@soraceant Okay, sure, mind giving a reason then?
@soraceant 4 жыл бұрын
@@glitchyx6995 because all individual skirmishes are won too easily. You see scrub wakandans running with spears and instakilling alien creatures. That's unrealistic and dumb. No coordination whatsoever and hero's like antman causing what looks like massive casualties on both sides.
@GinHindew110 4 жыл бұрын
How to solve Endgame Thanos: give him a backstory of him being a regular power hungry badass who wanted to rule the universe with his iron fist, but due to some revelation became concerned about the fate of the universe and changed his ways, then have the avengers face the old warlord Thanos who discovered them because their time traveling shenanigans disrupted whatever powers of the universe he was watching at the moment Then this Thanos would want to use the stones to bring his reign of terror over the universe
@killersands5116 4 жыл бұрын
Major flaw for me was I didn't like the way time travel worked in the film
@Katyamuffin 4 жыл бұрын
Yap, this is why you don't do time travel. Ever. There's ALWAYS gonna be a paradox.
@dumusstarbeiten5063 4 жыл бұрын
@@Katyamuffin watch dark on netflix. my favourite series, it solves the paradoxes pretty nice. if you watch it, id recommend you using the original (german) audio
@Katyamuffin 4 жыл бұрын
@@dumusstarbeiten5063 I always take subs over dubs, no worries. Might check it out
@user-ip5xn9ks9k 4 жыл бұрын
@@Katyamuffin Imo X-Men Days of the future past did it way better.
@LBoomsky 2 жыл бұрын
15:17 everyone showing up would feel tacked on and pointless because thor would snap thanos away first just like ironman did bringing everyone back would be stupid at that immediate point
@go_rilla262 4 жыл бұрын
[Laughs in Scouring of the Shire]
@incoggnito1667 4 жыл бұрын
So is Infinity War basically the "Empire Strikes Back" of the Avengers franchise now?
@ichbins173 4 жыл бұрын
12:40 basically what happens in The Hobbit. You feel like the main objective is defeating the dragon. But it gets defeated rather quickly and not by the heros, no by a different character. After the dragon is dead you still have to watch through the conflict between the heroes and the elves and men and then you have the battle of the five armies. This is what Peter Jackson actively tried to change by having the weird pale orc hunt them from the beginning. In the books it works, in a movie not so much. 15:30 How great would it have been to have Thanos hit Thor in the chest with his sword and Thor with his last bit of strength snapping the gauntlet saying "YOU should have gone for the head". Snapping Thanos and Co away and everyone else back. How great would it have been to see Thanos being in despair about what he did and then fighting his self from the past who thinks he is weak and failed. This would have been great. But I'd still prefer the Thor one.
@olenraks 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody talking about hawkeye just casually holding an infinity stone in he's hand.
@xcx005 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the soul stone probably allowed itself to be wielded easily cause he earned it after giving the stone's demand of a sacrifice (how could anyone even call that a sacrifice? lel) But then, Tony didn't immediately die after weilding the combined power of all stones so maybe the best answer is that the Russos sucks ass in powerscaling
@Heatlifer77 4 жыл бұрын
olenraks oh my god you're right
@ioshinigami2165 4 жыл бұрын
"Clint just kind of forgot that humans can't hold infinity stones"
@steelin666 4 жыл бұрын
@@xcx005 Tony was a) supported by his suit made with highly advanced technology derived from the tesseract, an infinity stone, probably upgraded with infinity stones in mind after the initial defeat b) a genius on a universe scale - his mind is so unrealistic, it can be probably considered a superpower. It's not a perfect explanation, but enough to suspend my disbelief. Especially since he actually dies afterwards.
@Astraeus.. 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that anybody is surprised or bothered by that is silly. The ONLY Stone that's shown to be extremely volatile/hazardous to a holder all on it's own is the Power Stone, and that's most likely due to the nature of the stone itself. Several people handle the Tesseract with zero consequence. Wanda destroys the Mind Stone like 2 feet from her face and it doesn't vaporize her. Doctor Strange, the Ancient One and Banner/Hulk hold the Time Stone, also with no consequence. Also Jane Foster literally had the Reality Stone inside her body for an extended period of time, and while it does make her sick it doesn't just instantly kill her.
@ThomasJames69420 4 жыл бұрын
It didn't land as hard because time travel was such a cop out. Just felt lazy
@glitchyx6995 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, definitely not. It sounds dumb on paper, but the execution was actually amazing. Especially a good way for fan service, to look back on older movies.
@glitchyx6995 4 жыл бұрын
@dimitris davos No, they couldn't repeat it over and over again. They only had 1 pym particle each, and they NEEDED the pym particles to time travel.
@cooljim1376 4 жыл бұрын
@@glitchyx6995 Considering GoTG 2 was building up to Adam Warlock and the fact that Gamora was in the soul stone, this suggests that End Game was going to have a conclusion loyal to the comics, but they copped out with time travel. Granted it would be cheap without a setup for Adam, but a much better character than Captain Cunt and a much more interesting way to end the series than give the heroes everything they need at the beginning of the film. Thanos? Dead. Need time travel? Done. Get the stones? Already have 'em all no problem. Need a gauntlet? Finished. Reverse snap? Gotcha covered. Generic Thanos shows up? That's okay yeetus deletus. 10 years of build up for a lame, uninspired, boring conclusion to what was once a great film series. I will admit there was definitely super hero fatigue growing a little bit before Infinity War, but people like myself held on because they were hoping for a worthy ending, we didn't get it. As of writing this Phase 4 looks like an unappealing trash fire so I don't see any of this breathing new life into the place. It's over.
@WingedBagels 4 жыл бұрын
In infinity war, Thanos had to get a space dwarf to build a device capable of wielding the power of the stones. In endgame, Ironman builds a gauntlet in under an hour. And then he uses the stones without the gauntlet anyway.
@acrow5 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was more, Thanos needed the gauntlet to be able to use the stones without injuring himself. The first time Thanos snapped, he was fine but the gauntlet was damaged. The second time he used the stones, to reduce them to atoms, he was left crippled. Iron Man made a gauntlet that left Hulk crippled with the first use, and he was the strongest of them to actually be able to survive. Then Iron Man used the stones and it killed him. Bit of a difference I think.
@jaydenc367 3 жыл бұрын
thanos needed a glove that would even fit him and a gauntlet that could be used more then once which worked unlike tony. also...tony's own outfit he used ultimately killed him
@justanotherlikeyou 4 жыл бұрын
While your point about the snap taking place before the final battle might be somewhat valid, though the final battle did happen pretty much immediately after the snap, and Thanos said he would redo it to include all of them, which you did cover, Endgame nevertheless was a VERY satisfying finale to 10 years of movies. And the final battle, far from being boring or something nobody wanted or liked, was, on the contrary, absolutely amazing, incredible, and emotionally satisfying. Why? Because, even though the main point was to undo the snap, the secondary point followed closely behind which was unfinished business with Thanos. Now you make the point that they couldn't have known about past Thanos coming for them, and this is certainly true. But when they saw a healthy fully armored Thanos ready for a fight, they saw that as their _real_ revenge. Why? Because their Thanos, the one that they killed earlier, was too weak to fight them and their victory over him felt hollow. With past Thanos they had to work at it, and it felt immensely satisfying for them and us to defeat him. So, yeah, Endgame had two main plot points, undo the snap and defeat, I mean really defeat, Thanos.
@PViolety 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t get why thanos decides to restart the entire universe just because the avengers disagree with him, I mean how did you expect them to react?
@zorro8027 4 жыл бұрын
PURPLEY PRESENT He thought that the half he spared would eventually see the results of his work and be grateful. He saved the universe (in a way), and then had all of his life’s work u done because a few people couldn’t let go of the past. If he couldn’t get half of the universe to agree and go along with salvation, why save them in the first place? Which is why he claimed he would make a new, balanced universe. Full of life, happiness, food and resources. Why Thanos didn’t just snap more resources into the current universe is beyond me though. If I was Thanos I would’ve multiplied the resources in the universe severely. Saves all the lives in the universe and no conflicts/battle had to be fought. He could’ve actually been a really good ally to the avengers, especially considering he beats hulk at his one game and can defeat Thor with ease (even with storm breaker shown in endgame).
@PViolety 4 жыл бұрын
Good point
@acrow5 4 жыл бұрын
@@zorro8027 It is the better option, but by that point Thanos was insane. He had a million different, better options to go with, but the only thing he could think of was wiping out half of all sentient life. It became a sunk cost fallacy. He had already killed many billions or trillions up to that point, he wasn't going to suddenly change his modus operandi.
@bullymaguire_005 3 жыл бұрын
Bcoz Thanos want to do good about the universe but he realized that no matter how much he do good for universe others will never except their failure.
@ARottenMuffin 4 жыл бұрын
For me I just never really felt that deep of an emotional tension since I couldn't help thinking about how they were always coming back, and then they announce all their movies regardless of IWs ending. The biggest thing that felt inconsistent to me throughout both was the stones supposed power level. I've never read the comics but just based on the mcu with a quote from GoTG they state how Ronan could wipe out all life on the planet if he makes it to the surface using just the one stone. Why then when in possession of any number of the stones, especially when that same one was the first Thanos acquired did he never seem as powerful as someone capable instantly killing a planet? Infinity War is better in that it's definitely a more enjoyable rewatch, but even in that whole fight he has I believe 4 at point and they just never felt fully utilized in either movie. They had built up this whole purpose of collecting all the stones being 'the snap' which felt like it undermined and neglected of all their innate power previously established.
@xDrikenx 4 жыл бұрын
Endgame : Pure Fan Service
@MrsUzumaki 4 жыл бұрын
Pure *BAD Fan Service.
@user-du7bc4et1x 4 жыл бұрын
WIth the exception of the people who like thor. My dude went from strongest avenger to cringeworthy comic relief.
@thewizardbusiness6788 4 жыл бұрын
Sahar Pournazari no Endgame has good fan service
@lonelysatoshi2482 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrsUzumaki The Rise of Skywalker is more accurate with your comment.
@larryfoulkeofficial8609 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrsUzumaki found the redditor
@Beenman2210 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem was killing off the original Thanos. They spent the whole movie building up thanos’ character just to kill him off in the first scene. Replacing him with a different version of himself from a paralllel universe was like having a completely different character be the final antagonist. Might as well have had Darkseid or Voldemort show up instead because it would of had just as much emotional significance. Thanos literally says “I don’t even know who you are” to a character during the final battle. Geez now I’m really on the edge of my seat after that line.
@oldcowbb 4 жыл бұрын
i don't even realize i never watch it for second time. It just gone to the back of my head
@NekroDesignFactory 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s your boy, Adam!”
@anipneuma4789 4 жыл бұрын
The greatest cinematic experience I don’t want to see again.
@Katyamuffin 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna see it again. But like.. only the third act. Just play that one over and over again. Basically the same as Rogue One.
@tizyman7120 4 жыл бұрын
@@Katyamuffin No, i don't want to see the worst cinematic experience ever in my life
@bullymaguire_005 3 жыл бұрын
@@tizyman7120 it's ur personal opinion
@majindob 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Hit the nail on the head. Def subscribing!
@ergocinema 3 жыл бұрын
It's an epilogue. The story ended with Infinity War, in which the villain prevailed. A superb film series, reflecting our times.
@InSpades0 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the most disappointing part of endgame for me was how they utterly shank Thor's character. Dudes basically a punchline for the whole movie; doesn't get the odinforce, doesn't get powered up by the timestone and able to properly hurt thanos, doesn't even become ruler of Asgard despite it being his sole birthright and giving it to a side character from one movie ago.
@spencermahan3137 4 жыл бұрын
"These things I didn't want to happen didn't happen so it's bad wah" quit complaining dude.
@InSpades0 4 жыл бұрын
@@spencermahan3137 are you forreal my guy or are you just trying to pick a fight? The whole point of this video is a critique of endgame.
@spencermahan3137 4 жыл бұрын
@@InSpades0 Yeah, constructive criticism, not crying that your favorite character wasn't the most bad ass in the movie.
@InSpades0 4 жыл бұрын
@@spencermahan3137 Thor's not even my favorite character and the fact he was under utilized made into a punchline was the criticism.
@spencermahan3137 4 жыл бұрын
@@InSpades0 He's kind of always been mostly comic relief in the team up movies, this isn't anything new. And you go on to include him not getting the Odinforce or being "powered up by the time stone" along with other things that I'm supposing you wanted, as a genuine criticism, when it's just you're upset that what you wanted didn't happen.
@superior2096 4 жыл бұрын
23:05 Probably the worst moment besides Captain Marvel showing up.
@superior2096 4 жыл бұрын
@KAOS NATION k
@thebossmana 4 жыл бұрын
At first I thought it was Sam Jackson with a helicarier
@fitzhugh7463 4 жыл бұрын
Too Superior 2.0 I liked it, it was a reference to marvel’s a-force. It was kind of forced though
@CalamityM 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a woman and I cringed so hard at that scene I hurt my spine. Marvel's pandering is so patronizing.
@umamagei 4 жыл бұрын
@@fitzhugh7463 guess you could say they A-forced it into the movie...
@MrBrutal33 4 жыл бұрын
Overlong, too much padding out of the storyline (Thor meeting his mother, Stark meeting his father), not enough action....it felt like an extended trailer for Disney+
@milaan_tm 4 жыл бұрын
You're editing is HILARIOUS!!!
@DMcK-ro8qu 4 жыл бұрын
they should have thanos deliver the " i'm inevitable" line and when he snaps his fingers immidiatly roll the credits..
@zoltanrostas-secola 4 жыл бұрын
.....Followed by seven seconds of credits before they dissolve to reveal Iron man using the Reality Gem to trick Thanos? Imagine Robert Downey Jr saying the line "Reality is often disappointing" back at Thanos right after that scene...
@durim187 4 жыл бұрын
And have Avengers have another go at Thanos in a third movie
@ShadowGodOfDarkness 4 жыл бұрын
@@zoltanrostas-secola chills
@synysterwolf1289 4 жыл бұрын
@@zoltanrostas-secola That would have been epic as fuck. Wish they put more thought into this movie. Felt like they just wanted to end it and get it over with
@jessec.6876 4 жыл бұрын
that would have been the worst ending in movie history. it sounds cool, and brave and risky but if you actually saw that you would have been pissed.
@tiavor 4 жыл бұрын
I liked part 1 (setup) from Endgame, part 2 (time travel) was hmm ... OK, and hated part 3. (the fight) I actually hate that they brought everyone back. It brings more issues than it solves. imagine having turned down production of food and everything else for the past 5 years by half. everything rots away, infrastructure and houses also. and then suddenly you double the amount of people, with not enough resources to feed them and house them. Pretty much everything about the last third was bad, except the scene where cap marvel got punched. but just the scene before it where cap marvel screamed at thanos was pure nightmare fuel.
@noodles00p 4 жыл бұрын
"Am I too late? Then what is the meaning of this battle? Isn't it all POINTLESS?!" -Zechs Merquise
@gregdavidl647 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and analysis. I also laughed so much. Good job 👍
@insane_troll 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with Endgame is that they spent the ENTIRE Infinity War building up to the infinity gauntlet, so we're expecting something epic with a fully powered Thanos ... and instead they kill Thanos in the first 5 minutes with no effort. That has got to be the biggest letdown in the history of cinema.
@rafaeldeleon225 4 жыл бұрын
When they killed Thanos THAT soon... I almost walked out of the cinema.... Threw everyone off.
@Alejandro333777 4 жыл бұрын
Insane Troll yeah I expected at least one early fight scene smh
@rafaeldeleon225 4 жыл бұрын
@PrexorAMVs Exactly.
@Sextus70 4 жыл бұрын
And also Thanos's decision of destroying the gems after he does the snap seems very retarded and out of character IMO. He should have been smart enough to realize that the universe's population would sooner or later regain its former numbers, and thus he would have to reset it again and again with the gauntlet in some sort of cycle (like the Reapers from Mass Effect somewhat do for example) in order to keep the "balance". Besides, although he deprived the heroes of the chance of reverting the snap by getting rid of the gems in his timeline, he very conveniently allowed to become himself an easy prey. All that just look like very lazy and dumb writing.
@rafaeldeleon225 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sextus70 Nooo.... to the contrary..... it proved that his goal was genuine... and that he wasn't a power hungry villan.... just that he achieved an end with no regard of the means... But later in the movie he becomes power hungry out of anger...only because he witnessed himself killed and misunderstood... Overal, this was an anti-social driven Thanos not power hungry. Josh Brolin's effect on the character.
@Thedrizzle404 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was weird Black Widow didn't come back when they returned the Soul Stone. I had a discussion with my friend about it. He told me it was about sacrifice, but I said the wording was important. A soul for the gem. That could be interpreted both ways, and in both cases you'd be sacrificing something for something else. In one case you'd be giving up a soul for power, and in the other you'd be giving up your power for a soul. I thought it'd be deeper and wiser that way.
@gerardmourits8709 4 жыл бұрын
A soul can't reside in a broken body. Natasha did not get snapped Natasha snapped everything in her body and died because of blunt force trauma.
@mr.fridayatholidays5642 4 жыл бұрын
@@gerardmourits8709 Gamora has a deep stab wound in her stomach and also fell down, breaking everything in her body and dying of bluntforce, only that Gamora died painfully while Nat probably died immediately. Yet people still mention how Gamora can come back and all that especially because we see her in the soul gem... yet Natasha cant? Why? Whats the logic here? Did they just do it for that single moment of "so your plan failed and you did all this for nothing, how do you feel?" And just move on, not even thinking about the deeper meaning that they originally gave to the soul stone? Kinda a D&D moment ngl
@MrMetroidDread 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.fridayatholidays5642 Thanos turned Gamora's weapon into bubbles with the Reality Stone before she was able to stab herself, so she fell and died like Black Widow did. We did see Gamora inside the Soul Stone after Thanos snapped, however Thanos destroyed all 6 stones which means unless they can bring back the Soul Stone that was destroyed, Gamora from that timeline is officially dead. But even so I don't think they would plan to revive them because almost none of the Infinity Stones powers were explained in the movies. What are the powers of Soul Stone in the movie? The only thing I know is that in order to get the stone you must sacrifice what you love for it. Other than that the movies don't explain anything about it.
@mr.fridayatholidays5642 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMetroidDread that adds extra points for dumbness, honestly. The soul stone IS destroyed since I.W. Thanos destroyed it, so Gamora is gone... yet, the old Soul Stone that never ended up with Thanos (from different timeline) has Nat's soul in it, but in the ultimate end, Thanos (not I.W. Thanos) ends up in the Soul Stone (that contains Nat's soul), and speaks to Gamora (who is pretty much nonexistent here), and non of it is examined and explained which in turn leaves these flaws that fuck up a lot of the movie. Ontop of that, the Infinity Stones, together, give Thanos unlimited powers, even greater than death herself (in the comics and all), and he even says that with the stones he can do ANYTHING, so then it would definitely be possible to use the stones to bring everyone back, including Gamora & Nat. Its all confuckled ngl
@andrewfrank7222 4 жыл бұрын
We do not have enough information about the Soul dimension in the MCU. In the IW Saga in the comics, it is a separate place and outside Thanos powers with the Gauntlet.. Adam Warlock, Dr. Strange and Mephisto travel inside it, etc etc... What is being implied is that Black Widow and Gamora giving themselves up for the soul stone might mean they are tied to that dimension indefinitely... Or snapping them back, is not the way to get them back from there.
@jaceg810 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, in the lord of the ring books, afther the ring is destroyed, it turns out Sauroman actually took over the shire with a small band of merceneries and the main crew of hobbits mounts a rebellion with all they have learned on their journey. Idk why it exists, however I actually really liked that part as an epilogue kind of thing.
@Jisim33 4 жыл бұрын
"this is a super hero movie not lord of the rings" big oof if you never read any comics
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