It may be time to remake one but here you go kzfaq.info/get/bejne/puB-m5R1077NlKM.html

@@BobbyFischer0000 Nice to know I'm not the only who experiences this frustration. These 'chop/spin' servers... they're not playing pickleball, they're playing 'pickleserve.' I know it's incumbent on us to anticipate a compete accordingly, but they still mage to take all the fun out of it. They're so intent on winning every point they don't even want you to return the serve.

​@@driver49isn't every complaint you have the point of competing?

I get your point. At a certain level. But for casual rec play the point of playing is less “competing” than having fun and burning calories. At that that level, keeping score is more about making sure the games don’t go on forever and others get to use the court.

@@driver49 then if I wasn't trying to compete hard, and didn't want that running challenge, I would find some other guys who are on the same mindset to play with..not some chump with some cheesy short spin serve...I think it's cheesy but if you know your opponent can't or won't run, I can see it being effective...I understand it is probably very irritating..

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Thanks for sharing

There is a red cross-mark in the video on each time he did that to indicate itis not allowed

Omg! How did I manage to miss that! Happy that it was on purpose but, have to add, why would you bother including such an obvious basic nono?

Glad that got cleared up.

You're welcome!

Hey Ann, check out our website. betterpickleball.com we've got an entire section on rules

Glad it was helpful!

One of the best ways to frame NVZ questions it by asking did the ball bounce. If the answer is yes, no fault. If the answer is no then there may be a fault. In this case you said the ball bounced no fault on that shot if you go into the NVZ. If it didn’t bounce and you go into the NVZ it’s a fault

You can stand in the NVZ and hit any groundstroke you like. You just can't stand in there and hit a volley

awesome!

No time limit. The player needs establish their balance outside of the NVZ.

Technically the foot has to touch the line. It is possible to over shadow it without touching it but if you are that close it will likely get called as that’s how it appears.

No rule against it but if you stay in the NVZ you are likely to be a target

Yes. Tha'ts correct. For there to be a non-volley zone fault there has to be a volley. In your question you asked if momentum from a groundstroke carried you in. A groundstroke means it bounced, in that instance there is no volley so there is no fault. if however the momentum from a VOLLEY made outside of the NVZ carries you in then, that would be a fault.

Your question is related to a fault related to when the rally is technically over. Is it when the ball is "dead" or past this point? Rule Section 13.D.1 covers this (Player Line and Fault Call Responsibilities). It's not technically over until the "next serve." In your scenario, this "next serve" point is acknowledgement that the game has ended with the paddle tapping. No one called the fault. Anyone on the court can, and if it ends in call disagreement, the point gets replayed, which means your game had the potential for a different ending. Welcome Tony's input on this one. Thanks!

Steve, wrong. Only if you volley sucked you into the kitchen. Walking in to touch paddles does not apply.

Phil, re-read the question.

Hey Steven, the answer is it depends. Did the player who hit the volley reestablish their balance before moving to tap paddles. If they did then no fault. If they haven't done that and step in to tap paddles then yes, that's a fault.

Technically it's not a fault. You must be touching the NVZ. However most players can't see that closely and would likely think it's a fault.

If you hit him with a ball in the air and he is off the court your point, change server or sideout.

If you hit him with the ball even if he's out of bounds, its a fault on him.

So sounds like if I smash a volley and I am loosing my balance and use my racquet to catch my balance it touches line but no part of me dose fault . If a ball falls out of your packet if your hat blows off if your glasses fall off fault . If you have long hair you fall down no part of your body gose in but long hair fault . If your partner or you drops the racquet in thete fault if your friend is standing on the line because he just saved a verly over the net bounce you volley befor he gets established out fault

I agree beginners can find this very confusing. One of the things we like to use is to explain what a volley is (out of the air) since so many players don't come from another sport and that the first question to ask when it comes to a fault is was there a volley. I'm going to respectfully disagree on Stay of the kitchen. While it may be clear but it puts a fear of the kitchen in a lot of players. Then, they don't think they can go in the kitchen at all, or they think they need to wait for the ball to bounce before they can go in the NVZ. It also keeps a lot of players from assuming a good strategic position at the NVZ because they are fearful of the kitchen.

Therefore a point can won after the point would otherwise be over

You explained the answer excellently. But rule seem. so stupid. You could be “teetering” on the line while opponent serves next point. Once ball bounces twice and point has been won that point should be over

It keeps a player from hitting a volley mid court and having momentum carry a player into the NVZ

I'm not sure what you are asking can you clarify it for me?

Scenario 3 - The momentum rule. 5:21 "..even if the ball has become dead..." If a dead ball doesn't end the play, what does? (e.g., a return, ...). As a contrived example, P1 volleys the ball and it is dead. A few seconds (2 secs) pass, P1 steps into the non-volley zone to pick up some blown debris on the court. Is that a fault?@@BetterPickleball

@@gengelbeck if they have not reestablished their balance, then yes it is a fault. If they have reestablished their balance then no it is not