The p1 is capable of printing faster than the A1, and you can't just use the same settings to compare the two. It's like limitng two cars to the same HP.
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
Yes the p1 can print faster i reran the test again after this seperately to see how fast i could push it and it goes quicker than the plastic is able to keep up with (had the rocket down to about 6 mins but it looked shit) point of the test i suppose was to see how it compared bed slinger vs core xy using same speeds etc the max speeds on both machines are the same but also higher than what your average user will enable via a stock profile for generic pla etc
@VinceSamios7 ай бұрын
@@Kenprints max travel speed is the same, but accel is twice as fast on the p1. Accel speed arguably has a much greater influence on print speed than travel speed. This is also where core xy defeats bed slingers in speed. Try to speed the a1 up to what the p1s is comfortable with. Results will be very different.
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
@VinceSamios if you have numbers you would like me to try let me know and il happily check them out and run a comparison
@Chaselockhart27 ай бұрын
Thanks for running this test! Very helpful
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
Currently running volumetric tests on the A1 to see how that affects print speed and quality as the generic pla profile has a very low volumetric rate and I think that's one of the biggest things new users need to account for
@zmast3337 ай бұрын
Other than what's already been said, I believe the A1 could have a problem printing fast with tall objects as the bed rocking back and forth could knock the part off. Although the rocket is already tall, its round section is the best case as it causes the bed to accelerate slowly. It would be nice to see what happens with the same height but a square section.
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
give me specs of what you want to see and il give it a try
@peadookie7 ай бұрын
I’m debating between these two for my first printer. I definitely have use cases for some more high temp/tech plastics, but I anticipate 80% of what I’d be doing is PLA. I also have concerns about the fan noise (small apartment and have a wife). I can afford an x1c, but don’t really want to spend the money and the only other printer that’s really showing up on my radar are the Qidi x-max 3 Would love to know your thoughts. Kinda having analysis paralysis!
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
dont over think it p1s is pretty quiet to be fair id go for p1s over the a1 if i had the money for it and felt i would need an enclosed printer for printing abs etc and the p1s over the x1c unless money was no object as i dont really see any need for the lidar unless for spagetti detection- the 3 p1s printers im running have been pretty much flawless apart from failed extruder gears but all have been upgraded now and no issues since the choice is yours but the extra money in the difference between p1s with ams vs x1c and ams means you could have 2 ams units with your p1s ?
@flat_stickproductions2095 ай бұрын
You know when you really think about it, the A1 is like Prusa Mk4 at half price with more features.
@Happy3dprinting7 ай бұрын
Is it twice as good? Due to purchase price is the p1s better value for money for general printing than the A1? I don’t know but more people will have the money to buy an A1 and it will do what most people actually use a 3d printer for - printing toys and fun projects.
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
The A1 is going to suit 60% of peoples needs its only when you get to printing plastics that require better cooling or an enclosure that the P1S comes into its own
@3vlogs4877 ай бұрын
If all you want to print is PLA the A1 won’t disappoint you, but my P1S has been great.
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
@3vlogs487 if the A1 was a first printer or you are coming from something like an ender 3 etc then the A1 is a no brainer it will blow your mind i guess its a bit like someone having an old mobile phone and it did most of what you wanted and then you moved to apple or android device and had so much more functionality over what you had previously but you could have bought the flagship model instead - does almost exact same stuff only slightly better but more expensive for what you get
@3vlogs4877 ай бұрын
@@Kenprints I went form a modded ender 3 to a P1S and now I want an AMS
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
@3vlogs487 i went from ender 5 pro to ender 3 s1 pros x 2 to having a p1p then another p1p then i added enclosures to both and changed to p1s and added 2 ams units 1 per machine then i picked up another p1s and the A1 i got for free from bambu by uploading models to their website
@ClayFRocker7 ай бұрын
This makes me regret buying the p1p a bit lol Time to convert to a P1S I suppose. Thanks for the video!
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
2 of my p1s models were p1ps and i installed the official enclosures
@thatdude6107 ай бұрын
Was this video real time or spead up?
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
real time
@Davide-il3ou7 ай бұрын
It’s pretty simple, if you print only pla, there is no reason to buy the p1s. The price difference is too great to justify if you look at the performance difference. The only reason to buy the p1s to print pla, is the compatibility with 4 ams that allow yiu to print up to 16 colors.
@Kenprints7 ай бұрын
agreed and even at that 1 ams per printer is enough of a headache 😄