Battle Laser - Kobayashi Knives - Kei Kobayashi vs. Shibata Knives - Takayuki Shibata

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Never a Dull Moment

Never a Dull Moment

7 ай бұрын

This is a one and only epic battle. Can it even be reproduced? Two incredible blacksmiths going head to head. Both using SG2 steel. Both are cladded, stainless and a spine that is 2 mm thick. Both have the same heat treat at a Rockwell hardness of 63 to 64. It doesn't get much better than this and the outcome will amaze you! The end result will be the sharpest knife ever out of the box. Who will the champion be?
Kobayashi SG2 R2 Damascus Santoku 170mm
www.chefknivestogo.com/kosg2d...
Shibata Koutetsu R-2 Gyuto 210mm
www.chefknivestogo.com/shkogy...
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@CufflinksAndChuckles
@CufflinksAndChuckles 6 ай бұрын
God bless and merry Christmas! I see these blacksmiths being talked about on Reddit and in knife forums but I always smirked at the people who love them. They’re great knives for a great price!
@nadm
@nadm 4 ай бұрын
I need to apologize for taking so long. I've had a surgery on my knee and some other things going on. We've had the court case for my car accident. We had to deal with that as well. We've also had some other major things happening personally. Deaths in the family and lots of arrangements to be made. Also, I'll let you know that I will be having another major surgery in June and will not be making it to the Blade show. I will be out of work for two weeks because I'm having all the extra skin cut off of my body. We do apologize for an interruption of videos if it were to happen. Will try to shoot some head for you guys so we can fill the space. That being said, thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for your support and your comment.
@df0891
@df0891 7 ай бұрын
Have both. I knew shibata was great but kobayashi totally blew me away. I guess it's up to shape preferences, best lasers around.
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
100% agree
@Nickporter17
@Nickporter17 2 ай бұрын
I love the passion for knives you both have! And I enjoy your videos. Something that does affect my enjoyment and sometimes causes me to skip a video are the breath sounds. I've heard you mention allergies and I know you don't edit the videos. So, not trying to be a jerk here. The sound quality has definitely improved over the years. But, if I could encourage you to try to reduce those sounds I think it would give your videos broader appeal. A few things you could try: mic placement - getting the mic farther away could help. Maybe a shotgun mic over the counter? A physical filter attached to the mic could help like a pop filter. But, the biggest help would be either 1) eliminating the sound source (nasal strips, breathing exercises, decongestants, allergy medication - again not trying to be critical and I definitely have no medical knowledge). 2) running the audio through a post-processing software to eliminate the breath sounds (this is very easy and cheap to do with today's technology, it's just one click). Anyways, I thank you for your videos. I really do enjoy them and I apologize for being somewhat critical here. Definitely not trying to suggest you're doing anything wrong, just trying to encourage you too keep going and improving the video production.
@HovhannesAsatryan
@HovhannesAsatryan 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Greg! As an suggestion you can cut same blueberry with 2 knives.
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
Yes, my wife was mentioning that.
@sacoto98
@sacoto98 7 ай бұрын
The shibata probably has a toothier finish. That's why it performed better on the blueberry test and the kobayashi performed better on the bess and the paper. Hear that shibata usually finishes his knives with different grits on each side of the blade. One side is finished at a higher grit so the knife can glide better through dense veggies and the other side is finished at a lower grit so the knife bites better on things like a tomato skin
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
I did a video on Shabbat a style sharpening, and I agree that he had micro teeth for the blueberry
@dadadadave100
@dadadadave100 7 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas to you and your family my friend
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
Same to you!
@hendosergio
@hendosergio 7 ай бұрын
Shibata is most thin edge, The hollowing is so good that you can cut a carrot or pumpkin without forcing
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
This!!
@MichaelE.Douroux
@MichaelE.Douroux 7 ай бұрын
Beautiful knives! What would you say is the basic difference in cutting performance or usage between a Gyuto and a Santoku?
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think there’s a difference.
@kcb5150
@kcb5150 7 ай бұрын
Any chance you will test the RH Preyda Arkansas Water Stones? There is a 400, 1k, 3k, 6 and 8. Hybrid water stone made with processed Arkansas novaculite in the matrix. They seem fairly splash and go. Every grit level seems similarly priced so each grit seems either well priced or premium premium priced depending on what is on the market.
@nadm
@nadm 4 ай бұрын
Not anytime soon. We are out of money right now. I need to apologize for taking so long. I've had a surgery on my knee and some other things going on. We've had the court case for my car accident. We had to deal with that as well. We've also had some other major things happening personally. Deaths in the family and lots of arrangements to be made. Also, I'll let you know that I will be having another major surgery in June and will not be making it to the Blade show. I will be out of work for two weeks because I'm having all the extra skin cut off of my body. We do apologize for an interruption of videos if it were to happen. Will try to shoot some head for you guys so we can fill the space. That being said, thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for your support and your comment.
@zimingtim4405
@zimingtim4405 7 ай бұрын
i don't own a Kobayashi but i own a Shibata AS 240, it cuts so well
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
You can see that they both are amazing. Neither ones a loser.
@dropdtuned1
@dropdtuned1 7 ай бұрын
I understand that you are trying to be objective and scientific. But I don't use a sharpness tester while cooking and I do not torcher my blueberries before I eat them :) and out of the box sharpness doesn't impact my purchasing decisions. What I am really interested in is how it performs on carrots, onions and potatoes after a good "Never A Dull Moment" laser sharpening session. Then I would like to hear your "personal "views on which cuts those better and by how much? Then have your wife try it and get her opinion because she has les overall strength than you do and your looking pretty ripped these days.
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
I understand your comment, but at the same time it's just a laser bottle. It's not a, I really love this knife battle. I would pick a whole other knife if I was doing that. There are plenty of lives that I love to use that are not lasers. A lot of them have to deal with balance and weight. Sometimes aesthetics.
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
Do you know, for three years we have tried to put out a new contact. It's very difficult to come up with a new ideas. Sharpening does the best. How many things can you sharpen? We're still looking forward to doing more. It's hard to keep up the space. One video per week for more than three years. We have to slow down just because we're tired. We try to entertain a weekly show so that you will have something to watch.
@shitlick82
@shitlick82 7 ай бұрын
What's the best cutting laser? Tell me so I know please
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
Let me think you just saw it. There are some other names that are out there that are equally fan, but that one's got a great price point. It's aesthetically beautiful. Every knife if I've ever used by him is completely and ridiculously shark.
@robertdavis171
@robertdavis171 7 ай бұрын
Are these insanely expensive knives?
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think so, but I put a link in the description for both knives
@user-xf4es7eh9y
@user-xf4es7eh9y 7 ай бұрын
it depends on your ideas mate. imo most of these Japanese artisan knives are overpriced for what you get, but these two are not that bad. certainly not vs. other takefu knives which are just hyped to the moon with noobs. For example say kurosaki or kato. what some shops charge for a generic maskage koishi is criminal. They are for sure enthusiast knives. Enthusiast knives generally run between $150 at the very low end to about $600 or so. Above that and you get into higher end stuff. Unless it's a TF, then it's a very crude knife and still costs more than $600. thats gonna chap some bottoms no doubt.
@JuJu-cz4kr
@JuJu-cz4kr 5 ай бұрын
@@user-xf4es7eh9y Hi, i'm looking to buy my 1st japanese knife and it's interesting that you said those things about Kurosaki and Kato being overpriced because those are exaclty the knives i wanted to buy. So, in your opinion i should buy Kobayashi instead ? Also, i'm a french chef and i use Sabatier and Victorinox knives and i have to say that they are sharp though, they might lose their edge faster than a proper japanese knife but you use the rod and they cut well straight away.My question is : will i see the difference in sharpness or is it just that the Japanese knives high carbon steel keep their edge for longer ?
@user-xf4es7eh9y
@user-xf4es7eh9y 5 ай бұрын
@@JuJu-cz4kr They're all fine. all of those are very similar. they come from takefu knife village. they are all good knives. the kurosaki and kato cost more becore they are better known in the West and have more demand. The Kei Kobayahi is one of the best Eicizen lasers on the market as well. I think you will be happy with any of those. what makes these knives sharp feel sharper or cut better isn't really the steel. it's the geometry of the blade. They all have very thin edges and are grinded thin behind the edge. Most mass made knives are not grinded all the way to the edge, but they have a secondary bevel which is the edge itself.. these knives are grinded all the way or very close to the edge so they are thin where it counts and cut very good even when the edge itself is blunted.
@JuJu-cz4kr
@JuJu-cz4kr 5 ай бұрын
@@user-xf4es7eh9y Alright thanks for answering. I think i will take a bit more time to choose from those makers, beautiful knives.
@TocilarulTimisorean
@TocilarulTimisorean 7 ай бұрын
Takamura Sg2 Migaki at 1.5mm spine thickness, or Hatsukokoro Hayabusa A.S, beats the c...p out of these 2 in performance 😉
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
I have the one that you mentioned, but not the other but it’s definitely hard to beat the performance of a 44 and the way it’s sliced those blueberries
@user-xf4es7eh9y
@user-xf4es7eh9y 6 ай бұрын
takamura migaki isn't as nice of a knife as the Kobi. The kobi costs twice as much. and the hayabusa is like the most generic line hatsuboro sells and AS is frankly a obsolete out of date traditional steel and it's garbage compared to any modern cutlery steel. not that steel matters that much in a kitchen knife, but if I have to choose the same knife between R2 and AS, it's obviously R2 all day... R2 swhich is what this steel is actually called "SG2" is just a takefu rebranding of it, but its made by Daido. R2 has like at least twice the edge retention of AS. lemon juice doesn't make it dull, it doesn't rust, and it's a lot less likely to microchip in a thin edge, they're both run around similar hardness. The only benefit of AS is it's easy to sharpen, but here's an idea, learn how to sharpen and it's not a issue. it's not just easier to sharpen, it's just as much easier to dull too.
@theredbar-cross8515
@theredbar-cross8515 7 ай бұрын
This might be a weird comment, but you look... black, I mean African American. It's something to do with the lighting and camera I think... Anyway Shibata all the way. The finish just can't be beat. And I prefer the flatter belly.
@nadm
@nadm 7 ай бұрын
Yes I’m tan. I’m not black. I don’t mind the comment. I look better with skin color. My gray beard against my white skin looked bad.
@user-xf4es7eh9y
@user-xf4es7eh9y 6 ай бұрын
@@nadm you're looking jacked greg. are you on some of that stuff that increases your melanin? being black from the waist down ain't so bad, the wife likes it haha
@nadm
@nadm 6 ай бұрын
@@user-xf4es7eh9y yes! I’m on Melanotan 2 and thanks for the compliment. I’ve been working on it for a while.
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