Best budget front suspension for 1953-1979 Ford F100 (DIY)

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3 жыл бұрын

In this video Lonny performs the installation of a Crown Vic front end into our 1969 F100 display chassis. This also serves as a guideline to installation our Gateway Performance Suspension Crown Vic install kit, which is available for 1957-1964 models and 1965-1979 models. If you're interested in learning more or purchasing this kit head over to our website at gatewaymustang.com.
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@craigshelley4040 2 жыл бұрын

Great instructional video / Clear and concise - Big help with the step by step process - Thank you !!

@charleschidester6767 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your talents. Great welds.

@torino390 3 жыл бұрын

Just started doing this to my 67 last week. Been researching and watching various videos etc. Yours is one of the best I've seen, really helpful and has answered all of the questions I had. Thank you ever so much for taking the time to produce and post this excellent video. 👍🇬🇧

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped, we will be posting more F100 videos in the future!

@travisharrington6921 2 ай бұрын

I’m getting ready to do my 67!

@user-tu5up8li2m 8 ай бұрын

Excellent video on the installation and why you did what you did to complete the installation. I'm looking at doing the conversion on my 54 F100 and this is what I was looking for. Saw this earlier and lost the video and it's taken 2 hrs. To remind this awesome video! Thank you immensely 😊

@francfurian8215 3 жыл бұрын

That was excellent, a very in depth explanation. Good work by the way. Cheers😊

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@julioarenas8476 11 ай бұрын

@@GatewayMustanggreat video, very informative. What's the cost for the swap

@eriknelson45 10 ай бұрын

Informative content on a somewhat bare frame is excellent. The backbone of most projects. Thank you sir, just the 30 minutes refreshes knowledgable builders and your crafty homebrew guy like me.

@thomascook2771 Жыл бұрын

Damn , on first tack I turned my head !!! 😅 I'll be calling to get a kit for my 69. Video paid off. Really great job !!!

@402garage4 2 жыл бұрын

Just pick up my 65 f100 I’ll definitely be buying your kit! Thanks for the video it has great info!!

@andrewchzy6802 2 жыл бұрын

were can i find the kit?

@peterjohannsen8472 7 ай бұрын

Great video,perfect explanation,awesome visual..

@GlenHunnGPCustomFabricationLLC 2 жыл бұрын

Hello neighbor! I'm just down the road in Cuba MO. I'm running a Crown Vic sub frame in my 49 Ford F-6.

@jimsweeney5093 3 жыл бұрын

I'm in the middle of doing a swap now and your video just helped me out a ton. Thank you.

@user-lm9fj5yk8z 3 ай бұрын

I wish I had seen this video before I started my switch on the Crown Vic excellent job please save me a lot of time and scratching my head that's exactly how you do it

@jakespeed63 3 жыл бұрын

Really slick installation. Never ever knew such an install existed. Great use of Ford's already excellent engineering. We have Crown Vics, in our city fleet, that have taken a beating as cop cars and all our brick roads. Amazing how well they still ride.

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Our thoughts exactly! These trucks ride phenomenally after this modification!

@yeboscrebo4451 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative. Thank you

@heidenfelderkustoms1502 2 жыл бұрын

Very good instructions.

@markwoten6679 Жыл бұрын

Great Video. I’m currently working on my dads 79 F150 Styleside Custom pickup. This video makes me think 🤔.

@mrjim1973 2 ай бұрын

Really awesome work!

@markwoten6679 Жыл бұрын

Great Shop Setup!!!

@davidweidner1675 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the education

@billgroel4463 3 жыл бұрын

Great video thank you for sharing

@xtremefab5360 2 жыл бұрын

Nice welds 💯👍

@theresalong6573 Жыл бұрын

awesome

@REVNUMANEWBERN 3 ай бұрын

0:33 the BEST front frame support BEFORE removal of the factory stuff I have seen !

@luvstruck2733 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video.

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@user-wu2gw1sz1s 6 ай бұрын

I dig it

@crlawrence6359 7 ай бұрын

I put a crown vic suspension in my 67 dodge truck. Had to make new frame rails from the cab mounts forward, but worth it.

@mongomay1 3 жыл бұрын

Is there any reason why measurements were not made diagonally front to rear to confirm the front end is square and parallel to the rear end to be able to have a final 4 point alignment done when chassis is finished? I have watched several different project videos that there were tracking alignment issues front to rear.

@timpope1221 2 жыл бұрын

Great video...thanks for taking the time to make such a informative video, I have a question is it possible to put a Crown Vic front into a 1974 f-350 frame ?

@ffmloyd Жыл бұрын

I have the same question for the 73 f250 and I see there are no answers.. hmmm

@PeterHatch-mx7zc 11 ай бұрын

Do like that you use the ford tubes x4 and bolts and nuts

@augustusappling139 Жыл бұрын

hey man did you fabricate the control arm brackets or purchase them somewhere? thanks a lot for all the details.

@salomonpuga5005 9 ай бұрын

Hi I like your videos! You know if this suspension fits a 1959 Chevy truck? Thanks,

@l.munnier9658 8 ай бұрын

How about 42 chevy pickup truck .???

@larrywarren1049 3 ай бұрын

51 chevy?

@ramrodou812 6 ай бұрын

i've watched this video a number of times. you guys have a great product.i am gonna get the install kit that you sell. it seems to be of really high quality. but, i have one question. what tells you for sure that the center of the shock tower holes is the actual center line of the front wheel? part of the reason i ask is that the center of the shock mount on the CV front end doesn't seem to be the wheel center line.

@LarsUlrich33 5 ай бұрын

Awesome video. Ive got two trucks i want to do this on. One with a Coyote swap as well ('74 F-100). The other is a '94 F-150, local built in Norfolk, VA (i live in Virginia Beach, VA) and all original. Can't wait to get this done. Did i hear y'all were doing a kit for this? That would be outstanding. When would that be available? Y'all tale care.

@John-uo6ri 11 ай бұрын

That would be the last front end I would choose. Those truks ride so good stock and their tough and simple

@garyroughley7276 6 ай бұрын

I agree with you.

@markmccarty9793 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to the swap on my 94F150 flareside! God a wire welder an over 30 years of experience! But it would be nice to not have to work it out myself! It was given to me by my father prior to his passing!

@biglakehotrods381 2 жыл бұрын

What’s up with that round body falcon? A few years ago I saw you guys had one built and made a billet fuel filler for the tail light opening. Do you sell that or is that a one and done? I have a 62 falcon that id like to make open and hide the fuel fill neck. Thanks

@mrbill8542 4 күн бұрын

Also works on 80-86 F150 also !

@dime4ever101 2 жыл бұрын

Could you weld nuts on the top of the lower control arm plate too to make it easier?

@charlestruesdell7706 3 жыл бұрын

Here's my question. I have a 1959 ford f100. After watching several videos I noticed that my set up (cross member) isn't the same as in all the videos. I think my radiator uses the same cross member . I don't want to cut mine off and mess it up. Can you please clarify for me

@tommytooreal4152 Ай бұрын

On your welding 1/2" tacks skipping around if you don't heat up no warping keep moving until you fully welded

@normansmith205 3 жыл бұрын

Do you know if this chassis the same for a 69 econoline ? I have one and I'll like to do the same because the steering is so hard with 265 tires and there's no much room for a steering mods. I have the chance to put oem power steering but will be better to have nice steering + nice driving + better breaking . Hopefully someone here can tell me

@steamy1225 2 жыл бұрын

That was very in depth explanation on the install , Now , what you gonna do on the rear suspension? Also have you done one like this on a 83 F100? Or have a kit for it? I have an 83 f100 and this is very nice swap for better ride comfort as my truck rides like dump truck .

@albertvenable4122 Жыл бұрын

If they don't have a kit it's really easy to source the tubes that go through the top of the frame from the donor car they are basically tack welded on the top only then just get your centerline mark everything and you can use a step bit to drill the top holes slide the tubes through the frame and weld them use some flat plate to box the frame and then figure the rear trailing arm mounts out and you never made a big cut in the main frame rails

@erikblake3360 Жыл бұрын

Looking to restore a 56 f100 but I dont want the drops most guys are looking for i want more of drop where top of tire lines up with the fender well. So CV front end I read drops frame by say 4 inches. Is there a way to install where you dont get that big of a drop, Thanks for your response

@heavymetalworks6375 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know the part number for them sub frame bolts that were torque to yield?

@chadcovert7442 2 жыл бұрын

Have you considered doing the kit for the Dodge sweptline trucks? Im doing one now and would have loved a kit.

@GatewayMustang 2 жыл бұрын

Chad unfortunately we only work on Ford vehicles at our shop.

@markwoten6679 Жыл бұрын

What was the thickness of the metal plate you welded onto the inside rail? 1/8”.

@kathycornish1 Жыл бұрын

if i install your the crown vic assemble with your kit can i still use my stock 15 inch ford rims . like to keep it looking stock

@curthall4096 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't the Crown Vic front end fairly wide, making for Limited Wheel Choice?

@humberto2722 2 жыл бұрын

I have a question. what motor mount can i use for a 300 inline

@randywalters5185 2 жыл бұрын

I see y'all have a few mustangs in the back ground and my question is have you ever installed a crown Vic front end under a 1969 mustang?

@ffmloyd Жыл бұрын

@gateway mustang will this work on a 73 F250 ?

@grimstonegrizzly7238 3 жыл бұрын

So, when are you going to post a video going through your 3 link on an f100 chassis?

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

That will actually be the next video we upload!

@kululv 3 жыл бұрын

why would you meassure to that rivet in the back? If so why dont you just use that as your reference or the 2 holes on the side?

@montycrain5783 15 күн бұрын

Having a P-71in the past I like this swap but not sure about ride height. Not a Fan of overlowered trucks. Can it be used with a ride height of only 2” under stock ??

@allenboltz5231 2 жыл бұрын

You have 57-79 for the years, I have an 86 F150 I want to do this front end in. Will it work the same?

@robertdinicola9225 3 жыл бұрын

How hard is it to find a frame thats not diamind shaped?

@aydenmendoza7524 Жыл бұрын

I have a 1980 ford custom f100 can I fit a crown vic front suspension like this?

@philipschuetz4856 3 ай бұрын

May be a dumb question I have a 50 f1 is there any way to norrow. The crown vic Ft end to fit earlier trucks, cars

@jesuselizondo8740 2 жыл бұрын

I have 1994 f150 flareside extended cab what year of Vic can i use

@GatewayMustang 2 жыл бұрын

We don't currently manufacture a kit for that year of F150 but you can use 2003-2011 Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car front suspension to complete the swap.

@jesuselizondo8740 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks been waiting to start my swap and then steoke my 302 to a 341 or 350

@JohnDoe-se9co Жыл бұрын

What does this conversion cost. As far as labor and boxes.

@chrishigdon1070 3 жыл бұрын

i have a 1980 f-100 351 windsor 2 wheel drive its an i beam front end, will your kit work on it ?

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris, I'm sure the frame on your truck is very similar to the 65-79 F100 but we do not currently manufacture a kit that will be a direct fit for your chassis.

@chitchatwchuck 3 жыл бұрын

This is probably a dumb question, but, I have a spare vic for parts for my p71. As I am not a welder, (but hope to learn someday), could I use my vic frame to mount a 59 f100 cab and body?

@jacobmoses3712 3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen @HotRodGarage Crown Hick? They did what you are suggesting but I can't remember what year pickup they used. They found it to be a very drivable package

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Chuck this is possible, and has been done numerous times, but there are many downsides to doing that as opposed to using a front end setup like this. The amount of time and labor increases exponentially and you have to lose a good portion of your bed due to the interference with the Crown Vic frame.

@derekstone9386 2 жыл бұрын

Could I put a crown Vic front end under an 81 stepside F100?

@laronwhitener5121 Жыл бұрын

Do you have a kit for a 94

@WhiskeyDentGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Dumb question, but what year IFS did you guys use? Like to follow your video on my project and use the same items for simplicity purposes. Thanks.

@RalphSampson... 3 жыл бұрын

I believe they are all the same, 2003 - 2011. They are found in Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Marquis, Lincoln Town Car, and Mercury Marauder. There are a few years that had the aluminum trailing arms. I'm not sure which years they are or which vehicles. Mine is a 2008 CV and has steel trailing arms. If I had known at the time there were some with aluminum, I would have gone that way. They all have the same dimensions and are interchangeable.

@paulcochran5785 3 жыл бұрын

@@RalphSampson... 2003-2006 is aluminum. 2007-2011 is steel. 03 and 04 are easiest to remove, 05 and 06 use more torque on the bolts. Steel control arms are just hardest to remove for some reason but all CV clips come out with relative ease

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Ralph is correct, we use the drop-outs from 2003-2011 Crown Victoria's (or any of the other rebadged variants)

@treymarrs6860 2 жыл бұрын

Will it go in a 66 mustang

@mosesmunoz7721 Жыл бұрын

Which year would be the best to install?

@treymarrs6860 2 жыл бұрын

Will it go in 66 mustang

@christopherpetersen3639 2 жыл бұрын

What the cost for your boxs??

@craizygolf1980 10 ай бұрын

DO (2010-2011) LINCOLN TOWN CAR AND CROWN VICTORIA SHARE THE SAME FRONT SUSPENSION?

@rickgreer4263 2 жыл бұрын

How much is your kits?

@onegymflipper3091 3 жыл бұрын

what is total cost for this? I have a 1979 f100 long bed that i want to do this on

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

The cost of this installation really depends on how much you pay for the front suspension from the Crown Vic. Our kit retails at $499.00 for 65-79 F100 and $569.00 for the 57-64 F100

@chriscochran8079 3 жыл бұрын

Will this kit fit a 1958 F2?

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

We have not installed our kits onto a 250 yet, if you sent us some measurements of your frame we could tell you if it would be compatible though! If you get some measurements send them over to ethan@gatewayperformancesuspension.com

@MCheekeOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

What is the mod for the rear to match the front suspension drop

@GatewayMustang 2 жыл бұрын

We make a bolt-in 3-link kit that allows you to adjust ride-height.

@proscontract5679 2 жыл бұрын

how much do you charge for this modification

@JohnSmith-qj4cf 3 жыл бұрын

Can you buy the rear brackets ??

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Everything shown in the video comes as one kit, check out our website for more information!

@JohnSmith-qj4cf 3 жыл бұрын

@@GatewayMustang thks

@thelostdogboy Жыл бұрын

Change playback speed to 1.5. Much more enjoyable

@bobappel3710 3 жыл бұрын

What is year or years of Crown Vic suspension to use

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

2003-2011 is what we use for our kits.

@jerryqualls6759 3 жыл бұрын

Can it be a mercury grand marquis?

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

@@jerryqualls6759 Yes 2003-2011 Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Lincoln Town Car

@jcar8146 3 жыл бұрын

Where is your shop located at?

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

Bourbon, MO

@FACEBOOKS-WBDS 2 жыл бұрын

As a recycling yard these are no longer "budget" we know what their worth and around here (mid west) they sale for around $600

@GatewayMustang 2 жыл бұрын

It depends on where you source them, we're located in Missouri and we can find them for as cheap as $200 for the entire assembly.

@Holywood864 5 ай бұрын

Same here in South Carolina $200 - $300

@pacottredd8755 Жыл бұрын

Cuanto sale un trabajo así?

@juliosandoval8244 7 ай бұрын

The best is a mustang 2 front clip

@hotrodtodd7609 3 жыл бұрын

Finding nice rims is the issue.

@GatewayMustang 3 жыл бұрын

It can be a challenge if you have your eyes set on a specific set of wheels, but we have found numerous vendors that offer wheels in the correct size and backspacing for this application.

@DaveMcLain 3 жыл бұрын

There's a local guy who did this swap on a '59 pickup and believe it or not it has late model Dodge car wheels on the truck and they look surprisingly great.

@WalterPidgeonsForge 2 жыл бұрын

Used 2016 Mustang performance pack wheels on mine.. though not a pickup, same suspension..

@robertdinicola9225 3 жыл бұрын

No such thing as a perfect stamped truck frame!

@kellyhahn6145 Жыл бұрын

Garbage in a '53-'56, it's way too wide, looks like crap no matter what a person does. No idea why anyone does it, there's so many better options that keep them looking correct.

@MatthewBerginGarage 3 жыл бұрын

What is wrong with the stock front suspension? The twin I Beam is about the best riding suspension there is for a truck, tough as nails but smooth. Particularly good with the longer I beams on the early trucks. You could completely rebuild the entire front end for under $150. 4 bushings and a couple of shocks is all it requires. 🤷‍♂️😉

@mikesmith-pg3lb 3 жыл бұрын

Looking for a fix on my 1979 Ford F100 4.69 that wobbles all over the road?

@MatthewBerginGarage 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikesmith-pg3lb See the post above. easy to change. All you need is a press and a couple of hours. Wandering around the road sounds like steering problems. Those pieces are fairly cheap as well. For my 92 it was the steering box. Got a remanufactured one for $125. Truck rides like a dream but for a real smooth ride it needs about 700 to 800 pounds in the box. Those old farm truck springs are a little stiff but with my C8 Gravely in the back you wouldn't know it.

@paulcochran5785 3 жыл бұрын

Better ride quality, better suspension geometry, 4 inch drop, bigger brakes and a proven suspension system are all the benefits. Also rack and opinion steering, coilover shocks, aluminum structure, etc etc etc

@MatthewBerginGarage 3 жыл бұрын

@@paulcochran5785 Better ride quality ---- Sorry but no. 4" lower ----- Why? If you want a car buy one, don't ruin a truck.🤷‍♂️🙄 Bigger brakes ------ OK but not really needed, I can lock up all four wheels on my truck at will.😲 Rack and pinion ----- also not really needed as the recirculating ball box does a good job.😉 How are coil over shocks any better than a coil spring and shock beside one another?🤦‍♂️

@paulcochran5785 3 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewBerginGarage because bigger brakes stop better before the tires lock. Also I'm not building a car. I want a truck that doesnt jar my teeth out. And I want it lower to the ground. That's what I like. It's an aesthetic thing too. Also when I adjust my suspension I can adjust my camber and keep my alignment. 😁 Coilovers are more stable and have better control then a coil separated from the shock. Plain geometry. And also I get a sway bar with my cv clip. So I can actually put my truck on a race track and feel confident in it. Handles better, rides better. I bought a truck cuz I like how it looks. I garuntee you it hasn't seen a day of work since I owned it, let aside taking trash off. I can still do that with a raised bed floor. And it takes better thanks to the 7.5L police interceptor engine I modified for even more power. Sorry, not your truck. You dont get to decide what happens to it. Dont tell me what I'm doing is stupid when it's what I want to do. It doesnt hurt anyone to swap a CV clip under a truck. The next generation is gonna ban car modification anyways so fuck it 🤷🏻‍♂️

@vintagedashboard6810 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve owned many mid 60s to early 80s Ford f100 to f150s and have never in all my years found why you would waste your money doing this to an f100 or whatever. My personal opinion.

@jaimedealba5661 Жыл бұрын

Video Is ok in part you don't need all of Meyer Mentes tu much a bla bla

@Bodypaintguy 7 ай бұрын

No, they don’t fit. Just because it’s budget doesn’t mean it fits or looks good. That suspension is to wide for ford trucks.

@jimquast8186 8 ай бұрын

This guy just keeps repeating himself. Tell me once and move on.

@CongoChango 10 ай бұрын

As a veteran mechanic I can’t fathom doing framework and not just sandblasting the entire chassis and have a clean slate to work with as inexpensive it is. Makes no sense just makes more professional job and clean to do accurate fabrication.