Bigscreen BEYOND vs Pimax CRYSTAL: WHICH one is RIGHT for YOU? LET'S DISCUSS!

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It's decision time! Which one is better, the Pimax Crystal or the BigScreen Beyond? Well in this video, I give you my opinion having used both for many MANY hours....
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@markkovalcson7243 10 ай бұрын

This is a perfect example of how much personal priorities and our individual use cases should drive our buying decisions. We should be happy that there are a number of headsets out there that we can pick from to take care of our specific needs, wants and use cases rather than slamming each other's preferences and buying decisions.

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more

@zetapal 10 ай бұрын

I agree, while everyone seems to be talking about new headsets and looking forward to Quest 3, my recent dusting off and experiencing the lag of my Quest 2 all over again have directed me to double down on G2 and look to buying a backup G2 unit for storage before they all sell out.

@jackr.749 10 ай бұрын

Personally, I just don't trust Pimax quality, not to mention in Canadian funds, the Crystal with all the options (D-Mas speakers and the Lighthouse face plate), this thing is well beyond (pardon the pun) most people's budgets. I really do hope a new AFFORDABLE PCVR HMD with good specs comes out soon, can't say I care much for the stand alone HMDs (Quest-2 / Pico 4) with their compression which kills off any advantage of having high res panels in the 1st place. If I had to spend that kind of money, I'd probably go for the Aero, why? it's not Pimax, that's why.

@Eskoxo 10 ай бұрын

now lets include quality control, software, random issues, advertised features not even enabled, etc from multiple channels and recalculate the winner...

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

Like I've said many times, the Varjo Aero is the one to beat for premium quality.

@RobertoMandrile 10 ай бұрын

easy... you can't buy and receive a big screen XD

@brettgrieves 10 ай бұрын

You said what I was thinking 🤣 pimax QC trash

@nickcutting4556 10 ай бұрын

Another great video Steve! You mentioned pimax clairty across the whole screen when reading aircraft instruments, I find the top two thirds of screen are clear but the bottom third is a noticable drop in clarity and is not so focused ( this is while keeping my head still and using my eyes only to look around the cockpit ), are you getting the same as me or different? I am curious to know if this in normal or not. Apart from that nearly all is great with my new Crystal and am really enjoying DCS world in VR. So many things are actually easier in VR than 2D so thats an added bonus :)

@doggiehowzer 10 ай бұрын

I have been following your channel for years now. Got the G2, then Quest 2 for the heck of it, then 8K X, then Aero. And now Crystal. Pretty much following your journey. I might be tempted by the Beyond at some stage. But the Crystal is wowing the pants off me at the moment. I usually keep my desktop in 4K through the Aero’s built in virtual desktop and it’s just about usable. Last night I finally turned on virtual desktop from SteamVR on the Crystal. And I was floored. It was just as sharp as when I was using my 43” 4K monitor just 2.5 feet away. I didn’t need to guess at the text on the desktop. Pretty damn impressive. Speaking of glare, I’ve noticed a version of it on the Pico 4 - like an internal reflection. Wonder if that’s the same thing as the Beyond. I’ve also noticed some form of blooming on the PSVR2 OLED which is comparable to the Crystal. So I’m quite happy with what Pimax has been able to achieve.

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

Thankyou for your continued support and really glad to hear your thoughts on the Crystal.

@mike_33gt 10 ай бұрын

Would it be possible to run it on mac pro m1?

@AvyakthS 5 ай бұрын

Damn you're fucking rich

@StrideSteel 10 ай бұрын

Great video here, Steve. Thumbs up! Appreciate you making this video comparison. If it was between the Bigscreen Beyond vs Pimax 8KX, which hmd would you prefer?

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy. I think I'd choose the Beyond. As pancake lenses and MicroOLED is a big step ahead.

@captain_nimitz 4 ай бұрын

Great video! Thanks for the comparison!! Answered a lot of questions that I had! I‘ve been using the G2 for 2 years now and have thoroughly enjoyed it but I do find that visual quality, or ‚lack thereof‘ (outside of the sweet spot) has become more and more noticeable to me in DCS. I had always planned on upgrading to the Varjo Aero but now found out that it has been discontinued. My G2 is starting to act up a lot lately so am looking for an upgrade - I am still tempted to go for the Aero given the PPD, Eye Tracking etc. but have a really hard time deciding which headset is next in line for me. I run a 5800X3D and a RTX 3080 with 64GB RAM. Since Varjo plans on supporting the Aero through 2025 would you say its a worthwile upgrade? I am betting on the fact that 2025 will bring a new lineup of VR headsets so I dont mind upgrading then again. Apart from DCS I only use VR for racing sims like Assetto Corsa and dont use it for watching movies etc. I dont plan on using VR for anything but sims so dont care too much about other compatibility apart from OpenXR and SteamVR.

@Vr-pits-simulation 10 ай бұрын

Have the aero and every other headset since VR came out… before DK1. Weight and ergonomics is an issue and the PIMAX is just too big for long periods in Vr. The Aero is good for about 30m to an hour… I have counter weights all over the back to help with weight distribution. This will jack your neck up over long periods. Ask me how I know, wore helmets and nvgs for years in the military.

@RayKit 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service brother ❤

@mike_33gt 10 ай бұрын

According to google a Typical f1 helmet weights 1.25 kg… same as Pimax Crystal

@Vr-pits-simulation 10 ай бұрын

@@mike_33gt unfortunately not much relation to the problem of weight distribution… the cg is way forward compared to a helmet

@mike_33gt 10 ай бұрын

@@Vr-pits-simulation pimax mentioned they will soon sell a modified version of their strap fixing the weight distribution

@brettgrieves 10 ай бұрын

Weird, I can use my aero for hours none stop

@tasmania9576 10 ай бұрын

Varjo Aero + Quest Pro that’s it! Somnium is my last hope for PCVR!

@fsxspen 10 ай бұрын

Have my eye on it also, Love my Quest Pro though, so underrated.

@kevinbrook7033 10 ай бұрын

@@fsxspen Fellow Quest Pro lover here, we're rare in the sim community but at least there's a handful of us!

@m0rph3u5. 10 ай бұрын

you forgot Valve's Deckard

@fsxspen 10 ай бұрын

@@m0rph3u5. hope they don’t launch like the Steam Deck.

@kevinbrook7033 10 ай бұрын

@@m0rph3u5. sadly, no evidence it exists outside of Sadly its Bradley's imagination.

@VNAV_PTH 10 ай бұрын

The F28 was the first airliner I embarked.

@thatstokedgamer 10 ай бұрын

As much as I wanted the beyond, the lense mattered the most. Using only fresnel lenses my entire life and trying a Pico 4, I was hooked. They matter soooo much. So when I got an offer for QPro for 700, I had to take the jump. The best lenses on any headset. My next jump will probably be for something like the crystal but not by pimax and a few hundred grams lighter (somnium VR?).

@lvnky5315 5 ай бұрын

how long you think it will be before someone makes a better lense for the bigscreen lol not long at all just like the vive pro, it will instantly turn it into all around clarity with glass lenses and shits on the crystal in every other category. ;)

@tkdmp5698 4 ай бұрын

@@lvnky5315 "The State of VR Optics in 2023: Deep Technical Insights with Arthur Rabner (Hypervision)" If you wanna learn about this in detail this video is really good. Basically the bad new are that its not that simple.Its not just someone just make it better. It gets a little too deep and i dont understand it fully but cause of how the pancakes works via internal reflections and magnification while also making it so small its very hard to make it better. Generally pancake production is very complex and expensive. But the good news is that from what i read and people i asked from reddit its not as bad as some people make it sound like. People say it IS noticeable but not that bad and you get used to it. And its also where you came from.From frensel its definately an upgrade. From good glass aspheric its a downgrade and its distracting. Some years where oled TVs will get cheaper and more accessible those people will think LCD backlight and grey blacks looks terrible. But before i really looked at it i had noticed it but it didnt bother me. Now i notice it a lot but thats what i got and i really dont mind i just accept it. If i had 1k to spend on OLED that would be a completely different story. All i wanna say is optics are very complicated and very hard to make it perfect in such a small factor and if you accept that this is the case it doesnt really bothers you that much. Or you get something bigger and better

@anttiautere3663 10 ай бұрын

Agree

@Falckodotcom 10 ай бұрын

I love the crystal! I hope we get eye tracking soon for every crystal user. 😊

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

I hope so too!

@kam_a3216 10 ай бұрын

The amazing visuals in the Crystal greatly offset whatever small negatives some testers are hung up on. In all honesty I don't feel the weight any more than I used to feel my G2.. Hope you are doing great Steve.

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

Cheers buddy. I couldn't agree more

@kam_a3216 10 ай бұрын

@@grzegorztomasiak - Not at all. As a matter of fact flying the MD80 in MSFS the digital displays are extremely clear with no color runoffs. I remember with the G2 i would have to go within millimeters to see good clarity. not with the Crystal.

@tyeh101 10 ай бұрын

If Pimax sells Crystal for $1000-$1200 with the current lens and LCD hardware without the support of standalone mode, I might get it after the software is stable and optimized. Then it will be a good replacement of G2. As Quest Pro selling $1000, it is the most balanced VR headset on the market for standalone mode and PCVR.

@tonye2458 10 ай бұрын

Are you experiencing the audio delay? This seems relatively prevalent in the reviews I’ve read/watched. Still waiting on mine and hoping if it truly is an issue, a firmware fix will ultimately resolve. Great vid as always. Thanks!

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

Thankyou. I have heard about this but I've experienced no issues

@noxproductions6851 9 ай бұрын

Having a vr headset that weighs more than 1 kilo on my head is a deal breaker

@poolhallshark 10 ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍

@HeadsetHistorian 10 ай бұрын

Ah Steve, why are you promoting Vr Rock again? Their lenses are terrible, you said yourself you had people complaining. For the crystal they are unusable. They might be good for other headsets, I haven't tried them, but everyone I know that has tried them for the crystal has had a terrible experience and you can see many complaints online too (and I've never seen anyone complain before about perscription inserts). Sorry but for the insane price they are charging they would want to be flawless. Even at 1/4 of the price I would be annoyed, I literally had to throw them out. I guess if they are just for astigmatism then they are fine, but any prescription and they seem terrible. It's probably down to them not accounting for the different focal distance on the crystal compared to other headsets. I won't shill any other companies but there are already a couple that are half the price, seem to have better performance and reviews and also have more useful features like being magnetic. Maybe reach out to one of them? I don't want to demand you turn down a form of income but the vr rock are really not good and shouldn't be promoted.

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

I've had mixed feedback, some people have no issues, some have reached out to me for help in getting a refund. I've shared my concerns with VR Rock, their other lens inserts rock (pardon the pun), so I'll be watching this one closely. But for now, I have a contract to keep.

@HeadsetHistorian 10 ай бұрын

@@VRFlightSimGuy Fair enough, thanks for the reply and transparency! Big fan of the channel so don't take it as major criticism or anything.

@anthonypinder9384 10 ай бұрын

I got my vr rock lenses last week I could only use them for a short while and got a headache, I found the rh lens was out of focus. I got onto vr rock and after a couple of emails they’ve sent me a replacement lens, let’s see if this is any better.

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

@@HeadsetHistorianNo worries at all mate. I appreciate your comments and keeping me informed 😊

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

@@anthonypinder9384I hope they work out better for you. Keep me updated please

@jimmy8x541 10 ай бұрын

ouch 2:20 this alone has probably killed my interest in the Beyond. I'm on a Pico4 now, no way could I accept going to a smaller sweet spot and ability to look around with your eyes after experiencing it.

@Holret 9 ай бұрын

if it wasnt for that stupid battery, I would have easily settled for the Pimax Crystal. Now that the Aero Varjo is at 990$ its looking very competitive.

@jingle1161 10 ай бұрын

I wish VR became mainstream. Headset innovations are slow, in a small market, with ridiculous prices.

@bigbangerz5856 10 ай бұрын

IBigscreen have some good ideas, if they can just be a bit more inclusive next time when they consider ‘the VR enthusiast community’ we can help them… If they want to focus on VRchat influencers then you’re gonna end up with decisions biased towards social VR I just hope there is enough of them to allow for a Beyond2 development. They better be quick though didn’t Somnium sign up for that Israeli company doing wide FoV pancake lenses?

@victormaniaci2104 10 ай бұрын

Hypervision, yeah Somnium invested in them and the CEO is on their board.

@Nyersevo 9 ай бұрын

Could you tell me the Pimax Crystal is working with Luker Ross VR mod games? Like Cyberpunk VR or Elden Ring VR mod? Why i can't find any kind of gameplay video on the youtube ? Perhabs it isn'T working with Crystal? And the performance good or not and it will be much sharper also than with ther Reverb G2 ? I have RTX 4080

@wajdi1977 10 ай бұрын

I returned the Crystal because it’s so uncomfortable for me.

@zetapal 10 ай бұрын

Aero is 500 off til end of month

@GT1GT 10 ай бұрын

yup it is and to bad so sad for them they where just a little to late for there sale. Crystal and many others already pulled the trigger on the crystal. Greed is real. They lost a few sales forsure.

@fsxspen 10 ай бұрын

Needs too many other accessories.

@lorsch. 10 ай бұрын

needs online connection and login every 3 months

@brettgrieves 10 ай бұрын

@@fsxspeneasy upgrade for index or vive users

@Clarksonious 10 ай бұрын

Stop accepting sponsorships from VR Rock! They are a terrible company and make a shit product. So many people who have Pimax crystals bought them based on yours and other KZfaqrs recommendations and have been out well over $150 on complete garbage!

@simondavies9350 10 ай бұрын

HonsVR are good magnetic connection superb and quick delivery

@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын

Please see my other comments above. But thankyou for your feedback. I'm watching this one closely.