Rosanna Flores - they’ve just changed the way it’s done - 70 shooting deaths in Chicago on Father’s Day weekend mean anything?

Yeah these times aren't scary at all🤔🙄🤣

Things like this still go on.

Victorian times were definitely SCARY!!!

Primitive crime technology, primitive vaccine technology, primitive & often deadly medicine, child labor, radium-laced face creams, arsenic wallpapers, lead makeup, mercury clothing dyes, cocaine aspirin, meth sleep aids, early electronics with open uncoated wires, corsets so tight they reshape the bones in your body, children getting trampled by horses, horse poop in the streets, bathtubs that could boil you alive, no FDA regulations, alum-filled breads, ammonia-powered refrigerators (yes, they had fridges back then), lead paint toys, boric acid baby milk & unwashable baby bottles, exploding toilets, industrial smog, dumping byproduct waste into local rivers, dangerous non-regulation stair cases, incredibly flammable early plastics, only women wore deodorant, as well as nauseating quantities of perfume, asbestos clothing & toys, do I need to go on?

Ha! I quoted the exact same thing before I read your post. Sad Indeed

Or would it? 🤔 Reputation was all then - if Poor Elizabeth had spoken to her Mother about her situation (and it was nowadays) family would have whipped her Straight Oot of that abusive situation - I hope - Terribly sad for all 😔

@@janetcw9808 They would have thought she deserved her fate for being "immoral".

I doubt it

@@amkummel7257 she had that child 9 months after her first time in the house? She want immoral. She was raped. Same thing back then though. I wonder how they blamed women then. They couldn't say the women brought it on themselves by running around showing skin, or getting drunk in bars, or anything else the idiots say now.

I Nelson BINGO! I think you described him perfectly.

He was actually a pretty bright bulb. College teacher, linguist. But intelligence and common sense, aren't necessarily mutually inclusive.

@David Mason Agreed. I know a family member who is very nice but after a few drinks becomes down right nasty --Jekyll and Hyde.

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He drugged and raped her. She didn't even consent.

Elizabeth was only 15 when the "relationship" started. If that happened today he would have rightly lost his job and hopefully gone to prison. I wish Elizabeth had a father who cared about her more than scandal.

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She had a life sentence for....simply being drugged and raped. So sad that men easily got away with doing something like that to a young girl back then.

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I am sure there were many, many other girls he drugged and raped as well. Men who get a taste for that, usually repeat that behavior frequently. All the other girls probably didn't have well-to-do fathers that insisted he marry their daughters, like Elizabeth did.

Her face in the wedding photo says it all. She does not look happy. Poor thing.

Exactly!

I hope the money went to the children, if it was all receivable. Those poor children.

Money creates greed through the eyes of a monster..that's all they see and think nothing of taking someone out in the process to get it. They think they can out smart the victim and authorities. Glad he was found guilty. Terrible person Four kids without their parents, how dreadful.

@@loririsk The jury said it was murder. Life insurance doesn't pay out for murder. And if it was initially paid out the insurance company had a legal right to get its money back.

Her father would regret it but that is what the expected decision should have been on his part. A single woman with a child had few options for financial support other than the child's father. And there is an obligation for a man not to get to skip out on his responsibilities and place the financial obligations on society. Many if not most fathers would come to the same decision in those days.

Very interesting theory.

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One glass of wine? Damn. I better stop buying women drinks.

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@Freedom ALBA GU BRATH Scotland she was one to put the shit on the bed every week, huh? Lol. Reminds me of an old joke of a woman with a similar accent in a hotel, telling the front desk that she wanted 2 sheets on the bed, and she wanted 2 sheets on the bed NOW!Hehe. To be honest, I've always loved those accents though.

That's the phonetic spelling I would've used for Nantes (sounds like Nont - no "s" sound at the end).

It made me chuckle as well xx

Men didn't get off completely scott free. Men who were known to cheat on their wives or never marry & chase girls were considered immoral. Highly religious members of society would spread rumors about them & either refuse to do business with them, or charge them extra. If there were any local crimes offering rewards for information, their low reputations would get them on the suspect list. Adultery was seen as going hand-in-hand with religious infidelity & likeliness to commit crimes. So unless a man was wealthy or had influential relatives or friends, he was a social outcast.

On rare occasion, that attitude worked in the women's favor. There was a case of a woman counterfeiter. When the police came from her, she claimed that her husband forced her and cheerfully waved goodbye as they hauled him away.

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@@lucindawelenc2191 Lizzy Borden basically got away with killing her parents by saying "I'm just a girl".

@@F40PH-2CAT Not exactly. While the jury was swayed by their social class sentiments that ladies don't do that sort of thing, they also concluded that the timeline didn't make sense for Lizzie to be the killer of Andrew Borden. (I agree that she certainly had time to knock off her stepmother, and her stated whereabouts between 10:45 and 11:15 don't make a lot of sense.) Andrew Borden was seen by neighbors going into his home at 10:45. At 11:15 Lizzie ran screaming to the neighbors that her father had been murdered. At that time her hair and clothes were clean and dry. Whoever killed him had to have been liberally splattered with blood and brain matter, as there was a considerable amount on the wall behind him. Consider: it took 15-20 minutes for a lady to dress at that time. Pantalets, chemise, corset, corset cover, multiple petticoats, then a dress or skirt and blouse. A lady of their social class often needed help, especially if she was wearing a dress with multiple tiny buttons down her back. Hair would also have been problematic. The only running water at the time was in the kitchen, where the maid was running in and out washing windows. Ladies *did not* have short hair. Most women never cut it. I can tell you from experience that butt-length hair takes a good half-hour to wash and lacking a hair dryer, it takes 6-8 hours to dry. So Lizzie just didn't have time to kill him and clean herself up. Did she know who did? Almost certainly. Did she herself do it? Probably not.

There is a documentary on KZfaq about Eugene Chantrelle. In it, his great-grandson is interviewed. The children were split up after their parents' deaths and sent to boarding school. Two of the sons went into the Merchant Navy. One of them shot himself when he was 21 years old and was buried next to his mother. One son lost his business after it was discovered who his father was. As a result, his family lived in relative poverty and often had to live on handouts to survive.

@@delilahhart4398 how sad. 🙁 Thank you for the info! It was very nice of you to take the time. I appreciate it.

@@delilahhart4398 I’m going to look for that

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We traced our ancestors recently, we went back a long way, apparently they were from Kent too - Gillingham :)

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If she had left him, she almost certainly would have forfeited custody of the children to him. Not a great time to be a woman, or a child.

My grandfather's sister became pregnant, unwed, in the very early 1900's. She was cast out of the house. She married the guy because she had no other choice. Apparently the marriage was a success (fortunately). My grandfather prided himself in 'getting in contact with her' decades later as if he was a great guy for 'forgiving her' and letting her back in the family. They were in England and that's the way they were. They weren't even wealthy. They just THOUGHT they had some reputation that needed guarding. Problem is, over a hundred years later and they are no better. Don't tow the party line, they discard you.

Divorce was an expensive business back then and hard to obtain, especially for a women, and she would loose the children, they belonged to the father!

Because at that time there was a lot of consequences for divorce

Lies ?

Wtf are you talking about?

@@jessiehuynh7495 I'm confused

Silver boots?

@Mermaid Life you believe it's worse today? How?

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Demand more. 114 people and not a single one from someone of color. Any color. How?

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Sadly the "Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde" is still an often used Modus Operandi for many men to snare girls, in present times.

Yeah, I know but I don`t understand how, not much of similarities.

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Elizabeth Dyer's situation wasn't just "unhappy", it was frequently violent.

Don't kid yourself they are not helped that much. All these Organizations pop up. And get Grants. But it's to line the pockets of the Owners. And the Court System give the Men ACD's. Which get dismissed after 6 months. If the Person doesn't get into trouble anymore. And if it's a Husband it's done in Family Court. So there are no Criminal charges at all. So think again. The media does not portray things as they really are. And I can say this for sure. I worked in the Court for many years. And I was also on the side of getting abused in my 20's. I left him. It took 25 years to get divorced. No Child. Support. And not any help from the system. And on top of it many People still lived with the thought that a Divorced Women was loose. And must of done something to get divorced. And this was in the 90's and 2000's.

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