I feel attacked

this is funny

You are correct, thank you for the comment!

I have asked the manufacturers, but they neglected my question asking if I am a first aider of any sort or in the medical field etc. Telling me that they are for the emergency catastrophic haemorrhage etc. I know that. Thanks for pointing out about abdominal,chest and head wounds (by the way is it only around eyes and open cranial or any type of head injuries?). What I asked them specifically, WHY why only 24 hours time frame? What happens then? In the guideline it says if there is no chance to receive a definitive medical professional help within 24 hours then this agent is not appropriate, so resort to something else. The reasoning is (unless Im wrong) is that it must be removed ONLY by medics in the hospital. I wonder what happens to the wound if I use hemostatics? Will it re-bleed after 24 h? What if I remove it earlier? I see... if it is a serious wound there will be no temptation to remove anything from it... but... noone explains why it is not efficient if we dont get to the hospitalin 24h. If so... it is not very useful in the wilderness? If it is a serious case there is an option of calling SAR unit which definitely may come faster than 24h timeframe. Well... Im just curious if it is worth carrying.

@@coniferousforests8030 I know your comment is 6 months old, and on a 5 year old video but your question is still valid. www.celoxmedical.com/eur/eurfaq/ There are other hemostatic agents on the market but Celox is the main brand, speaking just for Celox here. In short hemostatic agents are not magical cures, if you have a serious wound you still need to treat it by cleaning it out and sealing it up with a proper seal such as stitches. There have been cases where hemostatic agents haven't caused leakage after 24 hours. Hemostatic agents can and will start to break down and be absorbed. Recommendation is for it to be removed "ONLY" by a medical professional is because if you have a wound that serious you should be getting proper help. You can't cut your self in the woods, pour some magic "powder" in your wound and be good to go. Any medical professional is going to tell you the wound will need proper care, wound irrigation, stitching. Layman's term hemostatic agents are clotting bandaids.

+CrazyIrishMedic Thank you for the input!

Walmart actually has blood stopper powder...$5 a box .. two decent size packs come in a box .. mine has a photo of Lou ferrigno..(The incredible hulk) .. he is actually an EMT... So it must be good if it's endorsed by him!

+Appalachian Freedom Outdoors I am easy just not cheap! haha

I think for people in my situation, where I'm on a budget trying to cover the many categories of basic prepping, it can be very difficult. And I would like enough supplies for a few instances, or for several people in a camp or what have you. Otherwise I agree, if you're trying to focus on being a solid medic, then spend the money.

$10 for the rescue gauze, plus an Israeli bandage and some Ziploc Chest Seals is less than $25. That's pretty affordable for anyone that owns a gun. Especially if you're shooting at a location that takes more than 10 minutes to get an ambulance to. Cheap insurance. Heck, some dollar store gauze pads and dollar store ace bandages are better than nothing.

even for driving a car👀

I’m just a blacksmith man

+Survivalkraft haha thanks!

I actually teach now to tape 4 corners, this allows for it to vent out all 4 sides. Which ever takes the least amount of pressure for the air / blood to vent.

+Gunslinger454 Correct :-)

+Danil Shimanskiy Welcome to the channel!

thanks.

+mmix224 Thank you for the support!

Thank you!

The CAT is fast. And effective. You can apply one and be done with it so you can move onto whatever is next. Trying to use a pressure bandage as a tourniquet is slower. And you may find you are going back to adjust it because you have leakage. That’s time you could be spending on the next wound or next patient.

+NordicBritPrepper Thank you

Thanks for watching

+loganv0410 I would rather see an Israeli bandage than a belt or triangle bandages.

+SkinnyMedic me to skinny medic great video

Israeli bandages work just as well as normal tourniquets.

For patients on blood thinners, a hemostatic agent can be vital

Thank you!

As long as we are talking of people being cheap skates & they just don't want to spend money on those products, well I'm all with you on that. Now people that don't have the means for whatever reason, to buy the proper products, it's better to buy something & try to save someone's life, as opposed to standing there with nothing, unable to do anything.

That's a nice philosophy but it doesn't work for people living paycheck to paycheck who don't have $100 to drop on top of the line med gear

Cheap stuff present, versus expensive stuff not present all. Which would you prefer?

I almost gag every time someone complains about the price of med supplies but own multiple firearms. If you can afford $500+ Glocks and $800+ rifles you can afford $100 worth of trauma kit.

Wish we all could say the same. I am foreign and my job paid 2 USD per hour, about 2.5 when exchange rate benefited us and due to abuses in the workplace i am unemployed now. earning 8 or 12 for flipping burgers at McDonalds? a dream, honestly.

Did it burn like hades when you put it on?

Surprisingly no it actually doesn't burn

+Q-Pid Avenger capsaicin only effects the taste buds...unless I'm mistaken?

Well, those of us who have had enough at one time will attest to it burning other things about a day later...:-)

Cayenne? you are an assshole

+Kanzee Yes I will

in a pinch keep an aluminum dowel, pressure wrap, and gauze on you. you can use the dowel as a windlass, as the windlass is the hardest part of a tourniquet to jury rig. ( either the pressure wrap or trauma shears and your t shirt can make pretty much anything else). Ce lox and quick clot are amazing if you can afford it but medics in ww2 saved plenty of lives with wound packing and gauze rolls.

+senta ukrai It honestly seems about about right, maybe a little high. These kits can get high in price. Check out my kits and you can compare shop.skinnymedic.com

SkinnyMedic Thanks. I guess mine is similar to the condor Rip-Away EMT Pouch for $95 (its the same pouch I'm using) In addition to the items in the pre made pack I have more pharmaceuticals, dental repair items and a reusable emergency blanket for shock patients. A SAM splint is also in mine. Had I looked at the site first I might have saved a few bucks but I guess I broke even. Thanks for the advice and you are a credit to the rest of us in the First Responder Fields.

Sounds like a good kit!

+Igar155 Yes there is a risk of blood clots when using the hemostatic agents. When you are using these products it is for massive bleeding, so I would stop the bleeding and then worry about the side effects.

One does not pack chest- or gut-wounds. Simply because there is nothing rigid to pack against. Just seal it. You need bones to pack against. (shoulders, legs, arms and groin). If something has penetrated a chest, to "pack" the skin against the ribs is not doing anything for the true problem (something has penetrated the lunge). The chest seal is basically avoiding the patient sucking "false air" through the hole (collapsing lung that, simply explained, requires it to be air-tight to work. If you try to inflate a balloon that has a whole in addition to the opening you blow through, that balloon is not going to look impressive and inflated, no matter how much you blow, to put it simply. You also seal it to avoid grit and dust entering straight into the lunge-tissue (our throat is equipped with a great dust-removal kit) Do not stuff bellies and torsos. Seal it and call for help. You are trying to keep someone alive who will not survive without open surgery ASAP

glacier activity well that’s great to know, thank you for that. But in terms of what to seal the sucking chest wound with. Do you use the petroleum gauze dressing that’s in the package to “seal” the wound? Or do you use the packaging that is protecting the gauze, as the “seal”?

With a reassuring tone of voice and a firm hand, i figure. Not a pleasant experience for anybody involved, but doable. 😣

+J Doe haha

Paramedic here, please please please don't use tampons in gunshot wounds. They swell when they absorb blood and can leave nasty fibers in the wound, causing more trouble down the line when a surgeon is debriding the wound. If you absolutely have to pack a wound, use hemostatic gauze (preferably quikclot rolled gauze) and use a pressure dressing like an Israeli or an ace wrap until EMS can get to you. Also don't be afraid to use tourniquets. The best thing I can advise you to do is seek appropriate first aid training.

Lucas Gardner i never thought of that so why do the military advise the use of them then?

bexs 22 They don't. You'll never find a combat medic that has tampons in his kit. Skinny has a great video about tampons and kotex and it shows just how ineffienct a tampon would be against sterile gauze packed in a wound. It's all about volume and pressure, even inside a wound. Good question, please watch that video

+Jetblast02 Find a Red Cross or AHA Course for basic first aid then try and find a trauma class in your area

Works for minor - to moderate

It won't draw attention to you. Security might have a look at it, but no more than any other bag. Police would be glad if something happens and you can offer them some material to give first aid before the ambulance arrives. Unless you start throwing patches on it like "zombie response team" and whatnot I don't think you'll have a weird look at all.

It's probably not as good, but he shows how to use the closure bar(not the pressure bar) on the very end of the Israeli wrap to stick through the rest of the wrap and twist like a tourniquet, granted it's plastic and could break, and like he covers in other videos if the artery retracts above the wound it'll still cause internal bleeding and won't compress the artery, but you work with what you have, and buy, there's still your belt now that you have the bleeding somewhat controlled which you could apply above it as a tourniquet. That's what I would do at least, if l was still conscious that is.

With which item? I travelled with some first aid gear in my carry-on baggage just the other week and had no trouble getting through security. 2 tourniquets, 1 Israeli bandage (going to and from Israel, incidently), nitril gloves, a bunch of gauze rolls and a flashlight. I did however put my rescue hook in the checked luggage, since i didnt want to risk it.

Yea I would

+SkinnyMedic ok. I figured it would work just like regular gauze and the chemicals inside have just dried up. Thanks for the videos!

Yes

Like this video I made ... "How to use your IFAK!" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZyghLleqKuYdqs.html

IFAK = individual first aid kit

@@JefeDow I know what an IFAK is but that's not what he called it. He said i-fact.