Byrna LE vs. Salt Supply Co. S2 Less Lethal Showdown: Pans and Joules, son

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D.K. Spencer

2 ай бұрын

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@636tone Ай бұрын

Just received my S2 about an hour ago.. I am blown away by the power. Went out back & shot the 6 practice rounds at a thick aluminum plate & they dented it. I can imagine what the 7.7g aluminum rounds are going to do when they get here tomorrow!

@AirgunJordan 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this great comparison video! You're helping a lot of people make an informed decision on which less lethals to get.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

And Byrna has officially told me that the numbers on this one are "Good Enough" for them. So, the S2 for sure wins. They agree that this is as powerful as there's needs to be even though they also agree that it is under what they advertise They apparently are now saying that they give themselves leeway

@pasadenaeskate6491 2 ай бұрын

I FEEL SO RIPPED OFF WITH MY BYRNA RIGHT NOW!! THE SALT SUPPLY IS HALF THE FREAKIN PRICE!!!!!

@LessThanLethalGamerZ 2 ай бұрын

Just priced 2 S2s, 10-pack Co2, and 18 kinetic rounds for less than the price of 1 LE!!! (Salt Supply offers free shipping and no tax) lol Once word gets out byrna is done. Sell your byrna stock now 🤣

@EliudJimenez-jb1os Ай бұрын

agreed I feel like I was robbed I should of got the salt

@neprevazutul 2 ай бұрын

Looks like Byrna is going down down down

@Maybaby1959 2 ай бұрын

The LE has problems. The SS is better

@billrundell2097 Ай бұрын

Salt2 gun was pre inspected and pre- adjusted just for this test. Byrna gun did get this special attention. Is this an honest comparison?

@Maybaby1959 Ай бұрын

@@billrundell2097 I sent mine out came back great?

@crisgravel8387 Ай бұрын

Thanks for this comparison video! Its a real eye opener. Salt 2 is a lot more reasonable on top of much better performance. I think i need one!.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics Ай бұрын

I am still very happy with mine

@thepepperballprepperlessle6486 2 ай бұрын

Great video. Byrna must really step up their game. Especially for the price they are charging people. It’s a sin

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

Yep, I think Byrna has a serious competitor in the less lethal market. They should make a 30 J version of their LE, but I just doubt that will ever happen.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

Would hit at 15 if they did, lol

@bryancantrell1138 2 ай бұрын

He brother, I knew you would be a S2 fan once you got one. The LE seemed to be a launcher built with left over parts and expected to be the Super go to launcher. Look how much time between the S1 and S2. Salt Supply took their time and got it right.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

Yep, and seem to be great people to deal with.

@THELESSLETHALSPOT 2 ай бұрын

Another one for the Salt Supply 👍

@danieldavis627 2 ай бұрын

Just because of this video in my hatred for buyrner I just bought the salt s2

@dougtodd9184 2 ай бұрын

Great video. Love my S2. The only thing I like about Byrna is the way it pierces the CO2. It's not worth the price they charge.

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

Byrna is just more intuitive than the S2.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

I will for sure agree with that. Nice to have all the controls in the familiar places, lol

@edgefinesse4700 2 ай бұрын

That's what she said🫠🫠

@MultiSkyman1 2 ай бұрын

@@edgefinesse4700 Nasty!

@beezer2767 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 please keep up the videos. You are soo right.

@matt-fn9gr Ай бұрын

I do have the byrna SD I do believe it is strong enough to do its job I will continue to use it, but I did just order one of these salt supply S2.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 20 күн бұрын

The SD is decent The LE is just a disappointment when many of them are actually weaker than an SD or at the very least only a couple of joules stronger

@JeffSpehar-ov1cn 26 күн бұрын

I have the old Byrna HD. It's just as powerful as the LE after the first shot. Going to buy t he S2.

@Nick-kq2sw 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. As for your laser sight, would you recommend the Olight that you have over the LaserMax Flashlight & Laser Sight Combo that's listed on Salt Supply's site?

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

I would, but I am just very used to these and have probably had close to 30 of them I've used on builds and they are great

@Wallace0333 Ай бұрын

Byrna burned me as well and lost a customer for life. Plenty of other companies that actually sell reliable products that do what they say they will.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics Ай бұрын

They won't even return my emails now. Very unprofessional. Guess I'll just keep making videos showing how bad their products are 😂

@Daniel-hr5hc Ай бұрын

I'll never buy from. Them and I was that close to order thank for info

@Wallace0333 Ай бұрын

@@Daniel-hr5hc You’re welcome, going to try a Grimburg gavel, haven’t seen anything bad about those yet. Don’t care for the 2 hand charging but looks like it delivers a lot more force and consistent output. Good luck with whatever you choose.

@JB13827 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I just got a new replacement LE as well and a bunch of free stuff that I am thankful for (after three repairs) but don’t have a chrono to verify fps/joule output😳. The S2 is so much more consistent at half the price:(.

@MultiSkyman1 2 ай бұрын

3 repairs? That is not good. Explain?

@JB13827 3 күн бұрын

@@MultiSkyman1valve or other issues of some sort repeatedly confirmed with the LE. Moved on to buy another company’s products.

@ghostdog2898 Күн бұрын

How does the Byrna with the Mercy Less Lethal 12g adapter compare to the S2? Thanks

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 16 сағат бұрын

The S2 is better in reality. My last LE averages 12 joules while the S2 was 19. The adapter just gives more shots in the SD or HD, no change in the LE other than making under barrel accessories fit correctly instead of to low. The SD and HD are only 10 joules, so half the LE. Some LEs are like 24, but I saw that in 1 out of 4 I had. The LE is hit or miss and I even had one that was only 8 joules, lol

@beakfish7319 28 күн бұрын

well this deffinetely answers my question! haha

@keshermedia 6 күн бұрын

👍👍👍

@dougtodd9184 2 ай бұрын

Another launcher that might be worth looking into is the new Sabre selling at under $150.

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

You mean the S2?

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

@@jameslitsey2512 How big is it? If it's an oversized pistol like their original Sabre, then there's no point.

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

@@jameslitsey2512 Yeah, FSC's are still kind of oversized even when they don't have a long barrel sticking out. Only thing that's going for the new Sabre is the low price. I did notice a lot of the reviews were from female buyers, which I find rather amusing since this tends to be a male hobby after all.

@briansimpson2618 29 күн бұрын

hi can you show me info on S2 with MAX Modificatioins need home pertection but unable to get real fire arm

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 29 күн бұрын

Check out the channel Less Lethal For Dummies, my buddy Sean is the man on these. I've not even took mine apart yet.

@Stephen1094 2 ай бұрын

Is it possible the after market compensator improved the LE? Wouldn’t make sense because it appears to be cosmetic but why would WU’s LE be so much more consistent?

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

The one I got from him was hitting the same numbers before any mods. And no, the barrel comes to the end of the compensator so there's no way it could really change the performance. I would argue that the 12 g adapter did but I know that testing it before I put it on didn't change anything when I did

@Stephen1094 2 ай бұрын

I fired my LE for the first time today and although I don’t have a chrono it was noticeably losing power as I continued to fire the magazine. After changing to a second magazine I could see the kinetic rounds slowing down, it was easier to see them traveling down range versus the first few rounds. Must be design aspects that don’t allow the launcher to regulate CO2 and shoot consistent numbers. Wish I’d seen your video before spending so much money. Thanks for posting though and thanks for staying on top of this.

@billrundell2097 Ай бұрын

Salt2 gun was pre inspected and pre- adjusted just for this test. Byrna gun did get this special attention. Is this an honest comparison?

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 24 күн бұрын

You should watch some more of my videos instead of just leaving negative comments on everything. If you watch the rest of the videos in this series you would see exactly what the problem was and how would I adjust the S2? I've never opened mine up and there's no external adjustment. This was absolutely an honest comparison just like the other videos like this I've done. I'm very well established in the community as a very honest person. I literally have over 1700 Less Lethal videos I know they're all too long for your attention span since you keep leaving comments telling me to edit all of them You watch to make them shorter. Then the next guy would come around saying why did you cut out so much were you hiding something 😂😂

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 24 күн бұрын

What's actually really ironic about what you're saying is if you watch the rest of them you would see that the LE was the one that was pre-adjusted multiple times by the factory and this was the third one they sent after telling me they had pre-checked it by two different people The salt was just like it came out of the box so it's exactly opposite of what you think you know

@betterffd 15 күн бұрын

The only thing I like about the Byrna is that it doesn't have the push-to-pierce system that Umarex and SS have.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 15 күн бұрын

Yeah but you have to realize if you watch some of the other videos I have in this series one of the ones they sent me was only eight joules! Yeah the LE looks more like something real and functions more like something real but when it's 12 joules weaker When it's supposed to be around four joules stronger than the S2, there's a problem.

@davids184 2 ай бұрын

Are there any easy mods for better power on the S2? Just curious.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

Stand by for that, nothing to tell yet, lol

@Hamster-mr7ht Ай бұрын

Mannnn I just bought a Byrna that’s getting delivered in a couple hours cause I got CHASED the other day pretty bad and don’t feel safe anymore and I really wish I saw this first 😭

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics Ай бұрын

Send it back

@Hamster-mr7ht Ай бұрын

@@DKSpencerCustomKinetics ugh I got mine on amazon and it says “Non-returnable due to hazmat safety reasons”

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics Ай бұрын

@@Hamster-mr7ht Oh wow, that's some BS bro. That freaking sucks

@Wallace0333 Ай бұрын

@@Hamster-mr7htif its defective they have to refund you

@user-ys3cq1pz4s 2 ай бұрын

I didn't have money to upgrade to the mercy last lethal adapter . I would appreciate it and it would be nice if you could send me one . I believe that the mercy Leslie to adapter will feel better and hit harder

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics Ай бұрын

I need one more myself, lol.

@edgefinesse4700 2 ай бұрын

Does the s2 fit byrna holsters you think

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

It do not

@paulcolaneri7794 5 күн бұрын

I’m done with Byrna. I could write a book. The LE was a disaster, and the SD was terrible. I’m hoping to get my money back. Looking at the S2 with optimism.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 4 күн бұрын

Good luck, They just completely started ignoring my emails after telling me I wasn't getting my money back because I didn't buy it directly from them even though I did buy it from and authorized dealer

@jerryburns22 Ай бұрын

I have seen nothing but bad interviews on these burner products thanks for being honest!!! ☺️

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics Ай бұрын

Always. Like I told them when this whole fiasco first started I was going to be completely transparent either way and they cared for a while, lol

@riding2nowhere 2 ай бұрын

I said the 2nd time I shot the LE out the box it was a piece of crap. I am supposed to depend on it . I want a refund false advertisement. Love the S1,but the S2 seems too big for everyday carry. Might buy one. But paying a real gun wouldn't be a waste of money.

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

Speaking of real guns, I like the Pietta 1851 Navy that DK sent me. It's black powder but still very powerful. Must wear hearing protection before I shoot it.

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

With that kind of performance, you should just get a Byrna SD instead rather than the LE. 🤦‍♂

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

Well, for the size difference, too. Why have the bulk if it don't help more than that

@billysmith7108 2 ай бұрын

Seems like the LE is garbage. I'm sticking to my Byrna SD 8gm launcher

@stevenmeansphotography3861 2 ай бұрын

Fsc would go through

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

I bet it would. Only competitor to the FSC is a Gavle.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

That was a one panner, I have a wall full that will go through that, lol. But yeah, I have FSCs that will go through 3 pans, I could cut one way down and penetrate a one panner easy

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

I'm getting a Gavle, I need to try one for the channel for sure

@BrilloHead 2 ай бұрын

@@DKSpencerCustomKinetics Ah, but the Gavle requires threaded CO2 cartridges.

@FloridaSunMitochondria Ай бұрын

@@DKSpencerCustomKineticsawesome have you gotten it yet?

@rick31869 4 күн бұрын

if someone has an extra $500 bucks i will take a brand new umarex hdp.50 , redo all internal perfectly which takes 1 to 2 weeks , take out valve block , put in power hd-24 firing pin , add a 2 piece steel tuning barrel and sniper extension , dye the orange slide black , put a hogue grip on handle , it will get 38 to 43 joules with just 12 gram co2 ,,,,, and guarantee it for life,,, yeah i will repair it for as long as i live, if it ever needs it ,,,,,,which i seriously doubt , , lol lmao and all of this for the price of a over rated , cosmetically correct but very weak and chitty guarantee byrna le , the LE stands for what i personally have coined the phrase " LESS EFFECTIVE " LOL < LMMFAO !!!! $500 dollars , $ 500 phuckin dollarz for a less lethal that you can use as a side arm in paintball wars and games !!!! people can buy real firearms shooting real bullets for that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabahabaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , as you say , GOOD-TIMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@lesslethalfordummies 2 ай бұрын

😮 if you didnt make a video know one would believe you 😂 Disappointing to say the least. I just finished my LE mod video today. Salt killed your Byrna!

@lesslethalfordummies 2 ай бұрын

@@jameslitsey2512The LE performs very well after the mod but the bottom line is it shouldn’t be required when paying top dollar for a launcher. I meant his Salt killed his Byrna not mine. 😁 Fixed

@lesslethalfordummies 2 ай бұрын

@@jameslitsey2512Salt seems to be a solid performer and from the group photos i have seen it is such a simplistic design inside that should bode well for reliability.

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

Lost shaker of Salt, Salt, Salt

@DKSpencerCustomKinetics 2 ай бұрын

The trigger is solid, the body is solid, the safety is super solid. Size is the only downside of it I can see, other than it would be nice if the controls were more familiar. Not much out there with a front loading mag other than this. At least the safety is in the right place, maybe not the most rightest place, but stills