the one universal opinion shared by all disney fans: josh deserved better.

When Spencer comes to Teddy’s door and says, “You’re the one I want,” I always wanted Teddy to say, “How do I know you didn’t try Skylar’s house first? How do I know I’m not your second choice? I can’t trust anything you say.”

I honestly feel like Riley and Farkle would've made a great couple. They told each other everything, they were always there for each other, they always know when something is wrong with other person, they always told each other "I love you", and they always had a really strong friendship.

i will never understand why disney found it so funny to add that trope where the guy is constantly hitting on the girl even though she NEVER shows any interest whatsoever

i’m just so mad that Teddy did not end up with Bo. one line i’ll never forget is when she caught him cheating and rubbed the cake in his face and said „how could you“ i think i’ll never forget the way she said it it was so heartbreaking

Since you mentioned sharpey, can we just talk about how great and under appreciated zeke was? He’s cute and he bakes. Like I feel like if sharpey (and the films themselves) gave him a chance they could’ve had “the good guy helping the antagonist become a better person to some degree” story arch but instead his character just kind of came off as a simp joke.

i *distinctly* remember that the episode where Maddie gets back with Diggie they had a live voting thing for who the audience would prefer Maddie to end up with and Josh won by a LANDSLIDE so it was even more of a slap in the face when Maddie and Diggie got back together. i also really liked Maddie and Diggie in the first season but when he came back their interactions were just all wrong and i was so happy when they broke up. i wish Disney Channel would stop having characters choose someone to be with simply because they have history with each other. if you're happy with someone new why would you break it off to be with someone who at one point made you unahppy??

if maddie and diggie aren’t #1 worst, i’m suing

Ok but when Audrey said "most people get dumped because they're not good enough, I wasn't bad enough" I really felt that lol

Why does Disney always make the girl apologize when the man comes crawling back after he screwed up? Like "Sorry, I won't take you back for cheating on me" or "Sorry I won't take you back after you left me high and dry". Girl, you have nothing to apologize for! They did it to themselves. Take note people! Don't throw "sorry" like confetti.

It still baffles me how Maddie ended up with Diggie.

Its crazy how Ricky and Nini Went📈📉 but The breakup scene was really good

Josh deserved so much better, he was such a great character, he liked Maddie for so long, they had two episodes together as a couple and then Maddie broke up with him for Diggie while also inadvertently breaking up Liv and Holden… idc if Dove and Ryan were an irl couple at the time, the way Disney had Maddie behaving was ridiculous

My issue with Riley and Lucas is simple: They really set up the whole show to suggest that Riley and Farkle were gonna be endgame... Like was that not obvious to anyone else???

This is my take of the Riley/Lucas/Maya love triangle. I finally figure it out why I don’t like it. I think it’s because Riley and Lucas was being set up to be Cory and Topanga Jr. They wanted to a love story like what Cory and Topanga had in Boy Meets World. The thing is Riley and Lucas didn’t really have much chemistry outside of being really good friends. Like you said they were always akward with each other. Lucas had more chemistry with Maya, which both the fans and the writers saw but I think writers still want Riley and Lucas to be like Cory and Topanga, so that how we got the awful love triangle. Another reason why the love triangle didn’t work is because all 3 of are friends. Both girls didn’t want to hurt the other, so they told the other one that she can have Lucas. As for Lucas, he didn’t want to hurt either girls feeling, since he friends with both. It was mess that I wish ended them realizing that all 3 of them are just better as friends and not as lovers but the writers want a endgame ship like Cory and Topanga, which they did. They had 2. Auggie and Ava (and they were 5-7 and was relationship goals, IMO) and Farkle and Smacke (my favorite ship in the series).

Chuck and Trish are and always will be the worst Disney Channel ship ever. I love Austin and Ally but they did Trish so dirty by making her marry Chuck. Like I said, I love Austin and Ally, but Chuck is the worst character. He’s obnoxious, rude, creepy and sexist. The way he objectifies Trish and sexually harasses her makes me physically nauseous. Chuck probably would have sexually assaulted Trish if A&A wasn’t a kids show.

Off-topic from the original point of the video, but I like the analogy of divorced parents being weird together when you have no good memories. On TV shows with divorced parents, no matter how fine with it the kid is, there's a random episode where they try to get their parents back together because that's all they've ever wanted. I know it's for drama and kids watching at home who may be in similar situations to help them through it and all, but it always makes me feel so icky. Like I can't be the only person who isn't secretly wishing my divorced parents would reunite; them together is just weird to me.

the fact that hsmtmts' main ship made this list i can't even-

riley and lucas were supposed to be corey and topanga 2.0 but they never had the chance or the time to develop outside of these expectations, so they ended up feeling forced and unnatural

are there actual people who ship artie and liv

Now just thinking about Josh and how they did him so dirty just makes be so sad.

wow cait swore, what a milestone! also i completely understand the divorce thing

Ok, but imagine how funny it would have been if teddy replied with: "I'm sorry I'm with Skylar"

I’m okay with Riley and Lucas how they started and how their relationship went, but I wish that it would have ended with Maya and Lucas with how they matured as they got older. Rylucas was good for them being young little 12 year olds, but Lucaya was good for them having built a bond and being older, you know, 13, 14.

OMG YOU SWORE!! Idk why that hit different 😂😂 But yeah, I completely agree with what you said about Audrey. She was dragged through the mud and treated like dirt. I already felt bad for her before Queen of Mean, but that song really hit home. Anyone would crack under that kind of pressure. No one likes her, the boy she loved left her without any closure, she was gassed up her whole life to be queen and failed, her family sees her as a disappointment. I like that divorce analogy you gave. The narrative was positioned so we'd immediately dislike Audrey and Ben as a ship, but what does that say about Ben if he went along with being more or less boyfriend all this time (remember the pictures in Audrey's room;) only to leave her for Mal. Lovespell or not, that really says a lot about Ben and they really glossed over the ethics on that so Ben can still have his "pure and righteous king" characterization. And then they just all say sorry at the end...? It's a meh for me.

I love how she put Diggie's name as Digbert😆😆😆

“and I just, I DON’T LIKE’M” Caitlin 2021

Where did you get that that they would replace the entire HSMTMTS cast? Everyone except for Olivia seems really enthusiastic about the show, and it would be kinda madness to completely reboot the show.

As someone who has been in a happy long-distance-relationship for two and a half years with being 8 hours of time zones and a 14 hours flight apart, I think I'm eligible to judge: The key to any successful relationship but even more so to a long distance one is communication. Like, keep the other person updated on your feelings, your well-being, daily life, current interests, major decisions etc. That way you will not experience a sudden change when you actually get to meet the person again. Important to note is, that they shouldn't always have to ask you to tell them, you don't want your partner to feel like they're prying. And don't tell them because you feel like you have to. You should tell them about these things because you yourself want to - which should be a given if you want your partner to be a part of your life regardless of the physical distance. It's also okay to wait to tell about something and the other should respect it. It's really a mutual give and take. It's best to find a sort of rhythm because rhythms, patterns and habits give us security.

Not going to lie, I rooted for Audrey in the third Descendants because I genuinely got to a point of finding Ben and Mal just kind of annoying. That said, yeah I would not ship anyone with Ben on purpose, I'm sorry. He is a real life sad boy.

As much as I dislike Riley/Lucas, Josh/Maya deserves to be the most hated ship from GMW because it's just so nasty that it was even presented to us as something normal. A literal college student saying he'll wait for an eighth grader??!! How are they not more talked about???? I will never understand.

the fact that both of the two worst disney channel ships actually end up together even though they both had better options and also they were both dating in real life which honestly i think it’s part of the reason they end up together

Have you read the Descendants books; cause in them it explains what Audrey was really like. Apparently Ben was totally miserable with her, cause all she thought about was herself, and no one else. Ben was always thinking about what the best for the kingdom would be, while Audrey was always thinking what the best for her was.

Here's my take with Riley and Lucas: I feel like most of this ship in the beginning was actually fine. However, it started really going down hill after they broke up the first time they should've left it at that and started developing the other ships on the show, ie Riarkle and Lucaya. I also feel like with HSMTMTS: Ricky and Nini where also carried on for way to long and I'm glad they ended them when they did before people hated them even more.

I also didn’t like Joey and Willow from Liv and Maddy. I felt she was too aggressive and if the roles were reversed everyone would have a fit. He also made it clear that he didn’t like her like that.

To be fair, the toxicity in Rini, and Ricky's codependency this season is probably why it was so high up. When it comes to VenBar I feel like they started off using each other, they were bad for each other but always knew how bad the other one was (Ambar was always good deep down and misunderstood, tho). Maybe, that's why Rini was higher up.

THANK YOU! I also hate the "Sharpay is a victim" argument. Like, someone who tries so hard to make everyone fail multiple times in a rol is a victim?? What?? I mean, you wanna like the antagonist? FINE. But assume and accept that. you like someone who keeps causing pain in other people and enjoys it.

Can you please watch every episode of ever after high? I feel like this show is right up you ally. It’s basically a cross between Descendents and monster high.

i’m so glad troy and sharpay are on this list, i thought i was crazy for not liking them after seeing all these fans of them online. i was trying to see what everyone else was seeing but i just couldn’t 🤷‍♀️ i never really understood why people thought she was the “victim” either, just never made sense to me

MAYA DESERVED MUCH MORE!! THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY-

tbh that one scene from HSM 2 with Sharpay in the wedding dress with rock music always had me laughing my head off

I remember watching 'Descendants 3' for the first time and I thought that Audrey was the worst villain (like not a very good villain) I ever saw on Disney Channel! Especially in that clip, where she appears as evil Audrey in front of Ben. She was clearly trying to be bad to get back at Mal for stealing Ben and she wanted to destroy Auradon, with the hopes of getting Ben back. It made her seem pathetic and I felt like she wasn't tough enough to be a villain. She reminded me of a good girl at school trying so hard to be a bad girl. Like Mal had the toughness to be a bad girl, but Audrey was too prim and proper to be a bad girl (though she was a mean girl). But, I understand why she was upset in the first place. She was dumped by her boyfriend in front of the entire school, so she was disappointed because her family wanted her to marry a prince. It's been a hot minute since I've watched 'Descendants 3,' but I still remember very clearly that I never liked Audrey as the main villain.

"Sleeping is too godd for u" it looks like she killed him xd

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="793">13:13</a> i love the “oops she swore” omg 😭 thats so funny for literally no reason

as someone whos watched season 2 of hsmtmts, lily was just there to cause drama, but my personal beef with her is bigger. because she didnt just come in and flirt with ricky, she came in and made him doubt himself when hes already extremely vulnerable. she manipulated him into messing up the whole cast and ruining a few dynamics for a few episodes. lily didnt just come in to add drama, she knew rickys trauma and weaponized it against him (thats the scene that was shown in the hallway as it turns out later she just lied through her teeth the whole time) honestly, if she had been genuine, i would be totally willing to forgive her. but lying straight to rickys face about going through the same thing only to earn his trust and infiltrate his *drama group*, i have no respect for her, and her last grab for his attention at the end (the scene shown with balloons and stuff) was just torturous to watch. TLDR: lily is manipulative and weaponized rickys trauma against him for *a high school theatre competition*

Am I the only one who remembers The Lodge? The ships in that show frustrated me so much, and I want to know others thoughts on it.

Do you think live action kids shows have gotten less attention in the 2010s because people expect them to be unfunny pandering sitcoms which inadvertently killed traditional sitcoms? That's my theory because live action kids shows don't get as much respect as kids shows from the past, a revival of a kids show from the past or an animated kids show from the past AND present(The Owl House or The Loud House). Disney Channel has especially been disappointing me over the past year with breaking their decades long four season rule by renewing Bunk'd for a fifth season while cancelling Andi Mack or seemingly quietly cancelling Raven's Home. That show has its' writing issues sometimes, but not even bad shows deserve to be treated like that. Not to mention, it seems Bunk'd influenced every other Discom into being an unfunny uncreative sitcom about 12 year olds. Luckily, there are some glimmers of hope in 2021, Sydney to the Max, Secrets of Sulphur Springs, Spin and all of the animated shows. What are your thoughts?

I feel like the love triangle Riley/Lucas/Maya really ruined GMW for me. It went on too long and at the end the reasoning felt forced. It would’ve been better if they did a love triangle with Farkle/Riley/Lucas and not drag it out of course. I like Smackle and Farkle together. They’re cute. But Riarkle would’ve been a fabulous couple.

I actually liked the start of Rucas for awhile but then it just felt forced and not natural. Like, I was hoping for a more better storyline for them rather than just meeting and liking each other. I feel like Farkle and Riley had more chemistry than Lucas and Riley did and also I loved Maya and Lucas together, their history was better than Riley's IMO.

Artie was SO gross and creepy and vomit-worthy. I still believe that Audrey was cheating on Ben with Chad. There's a scene in descendants 1 where Audrey and Chad walk up to Ben talking to Mal at her locker (WAY before she spelled him), and the way I'm which they were talking and laughing just did NOT seem to me like they were "just friends". There was DEFINITELY something going on behind closed doors and Ben's back. I'm still EXTREMELY salty Teddy didn't end up with Beau in the end. He was so much better for her then Spencer ever was. I'm honestly surprised that with as much hate as I've seen for the ship that Mal and Ben also didn't end up on the list. There's so many people that tried to claim they had no chemistry. But I'm glad they didn't make the list.

I never understood girl meets world, to me it was just cringe. Lucaya has so MUCH more chemistry. I looked up the scene and omg what an upgrade! I know it's basic but a love triangle would've been so good, well developed of course😅. There were times when joshaya was like what the "main ship" couldn't do. Riley should've have another person come in or no one at all so she would focus on building her own self worth, confidence (I didn't watch it all so bare with me🙈) and realize sooner that they weren't meant to be. Then have Maya start having more vulnerable moments with Lucas and have them actively try to hide there growing feelings. Then everyone else figuring it out slowly (one by one) and have Riley be the last one. Because I guess I love a challenged friendship and trust issues😂🤷🏻‍♀️. From there have her have a meltdown and an identity crisis or something. Chaotic is the way to go😁👍🏻. I would be addicted to say the least, Love your videos💗

I dont know why but I really expected Mason and Juliet to be on here 😂

I actually like Maya with Zay I just liked the scene where they were just sitting on the buckets at the car wash episode and I just liked when they were just talking together about there group and everything but I also like Maya with Lucas I know Zay ended up having another girlfriend who was in Texas but please if anybody agrees and would at least just want to see them together please tell me

The thing with Spencer & teddy is that teddy wasn’t even the best to Spencer. (It’s been awhile since I watched the show so I can’t completely explain it) but they were both so rude to each other (clearly Spencer was worse) but they both treated each other poorly and mostly for a joke

i love how Josh just wiped his hand on his heans after shaking hands with Diggie

Ricky and Lily are bad, because they are pushing them to be endgame, but Lily is a terrible person, and I wouldn't ship her with anyone right now, if they give her a good redemption story

"And you will do what? Marry them?" That was actually a good roast lol I rlly don't like Mal and Ben as a couple

I don’t know half the characters in this list but the Benicio guy is the most stale bread lookin guy ever and Ambar was right to go off on him

tbh i didn’t even care that ricky and nini broke up this season, the drivers license drama made it hella awkward to watch and i wasn’t here for it.

I still remember when disney did that live voting for that one episode of liv and maddie, and a question asked who should maddie end up with and when the poll showed up a majority of ppl voted for Josh than Diggie, and yet maddie still ended up with diggie. Man that infuriates me, Josh deserved better

I love Rini ! How the hell was Ricky and Nini higher than Ricky and Lily

Is it just me that died at the fact that Liv called Artie Artichoke😭

If we’re going strictly non-canon ships, Justin and Alex is the ickiest Disney ship. That people shipped them is just wrong.

I'm not really qualified to talk about long distance relationships but I dont think that diggie leaving for Australia without really getting Maddie's "blessing" angered me because if it's a opportunity you should take it. It's selfish but thinking about your future and "living" is something some high school kids blessed enough should do. The thing that frustrates me is ofc when he comes back just because of Maddie which showed how little he actually valued the experience going to Australia. Disney channel just had to get them together since they had history and dated irl. Shipped them in season 1 (just like Caitlin) but when Josh was introduced, shipped mosh so much more however there are worse ships out there imo

troy: *is literally outside* also troy: i need some air

Josh and Maddie should’ve been endgame

Number 7 😂😭 the girl recording from 6 feet away with the WHOLE IPAD had me cracking tf up 😂

The camera quality is stunning 😍

If the original cast members don't come back for a season three I'm going to cry. We need more Seb and Carlos! And I want to know what happens with Ricky! And the music is so gooooood!

i started watching Soy Luna because of your videos and I am really enjoying it! Made it to Season 3 and was happy to see Ambar and Benicio on this list ^.^

I’m ending the friendship if their fav ship is Liv and Artie😬🤚🏻

How come in every Disney telenovala they have the cast hid behind a tree like girl I can see you behind the tree 🙄

okay um but caitlin WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR CREW NECK i kind of need it 🥲

i’m pretty sure the writers for GMW definitely intended to have Riley end up with farkle and maya with Lucas but the show ended too early. there’s no way they hired Sabrina and Peyton knowing they had that chemistry and really wanted to keep Lucas and Riley together and thought the audience would buy it

wait is the thing about none of the original cast of hsmtmts not coming back true???? bc i can't find anything saying that it is

pls benicio was the worst character. he’s so annoying and thinks he’s the center of the universe. the only reason ambar got with him is to forget about simon because she was scared to admit her feelings for him. benicio always felt threatened by simon because he knew that😂

everytime i see diggie all i can hear is "AND SO I BUILT A BOMB TONIGHT OUR SCHOOL IS VIETNAM LETS GUARANTEE THEYLL NEVER SEE THEIR SENIOR PROOOOOOOOM"

When I tell you I watched the Miggie clip i almost threw my iPad across the room in frustration that Mosh wasn’t endgame

Caitlin I love watching your videos so much. It’s so fun, interesting and relaxing

I wonder if the reason why Rini was a ‘successful’ ship in the first season vs the second season would be the entire Olivia and Joshua drama

If you ever want a show recommendation, I truly recommend Julie and the Phantoms

Maddie and Josh were the cutest couple on Liv and Maddie ❤️🥺 I thought it was very uncalled for for Diggie to come back from Australia early and try to get Maddie back when she was in a really good place with her new bf. Josh was such a sweetheart 🥺 he played Treehouse HORSE with her even tho he had a fear of heights, and he went head to head with her as the finalists for Cowbell Week. I didn’t really like Diggie (I shipped them in the beginning tho) b/c he didn’t care that he was gonna be leaving Maddie behind for 6 months to go to Australia. I didn’t like the way he didn’t put her first and not make her wait for him to come back. If that were me, I would’ve just saw other guys while he was gone bc that’s very unfair to ask her not to date anyone else, even though she barely got to talk to him while he was in Australia since there was little to no service. It honestly broke my heart when she chose Diggie over Josh after fricken Diggie sang her that song. I honestly believe that, if she’d stayed with Josh, they would’ve lasted

i was lookin through the timestamps and i was bamboozled that miggie never showed up at all lmaoooo spoke too soon hahaha

For me the reason why Lily and Ricky are a bad couple isn’t just because Lily is bad, it’s that Lily has openly mocked Ricky’s friends, never apologized and Ricky STILL wants to go out with her despite it all. It felt really out of character

Just found your channel yesterday cause a video got recommended to me. Don't quite know all of the Disney shows or movies, but I like the way you talk about them and you seem cool :D

okay but the lighting in that hsmtmts clip was soooo dark

I started watching soy Luna because of you and now I can’t stop!!! You should make a “top lutteo moments” video because I can’t get enough of them and I need more soy Luna content in my life!

Testing troy & gabriella’s commitment to theatre is not a bad move when they’re already committed to something else. She tells Gabriella good luck. She promotes Troy & Chad to golf (and tells her dad how good he is). Sharpay gave him all of that to sing a song (he did not do), but joins in with the rest of students happily. She gave the award to Ryan. She did not get to the school she wanted but was announced as leader of the Drama Club (her dedication is making the drama club as important as basketball). Troy’s late to both auditions. Their friends deliberately separated them for their benefit. Troy has everyone not working multiple times. Gabby & Troy split up because he took advantage of his promotion. Troy choose a D1 school to play basketball & theatre in (which has not happened) & be 30 mins away from Gabby. A rich girl wants to make the drama club as good as basketball vs The basketball guy who ditches his friends & goes through lucky situations.

Whaaat? Rini is higher than Rily? Why xd

I kept waiting for Justin and Alex (Jalex) from wowp. This is a legit romantic ship and the fact it exists is so unsettling. Yes the relationship between these two SIBLINGS is the best relationship on the show but it's clearly a platonic relationship between two BLOOD RELATED FULL SIBLINGS WHO GREW UP TOGETHER AS SIBLINGS. there are many kinds of love not just romantic. The fact that people have to turn every emotional bond into something romantic/sexual is irritating.

I just started watching Soy Luna because of your channel! I’m only on episode 16 (and feeling a little daunted about the number of episodes) but I’m really liking it so far. I’m excited to go back and watch all your comments about the show in past videos once I *finally* finish it!

Just got recommended your channel and to see that soy Luna was mentioned really makes me want to watch more videos since my family is Venezuelan but live in the US

I couldn’t ship Lucas with anyone coz the show didn’t allow him to have feelings beyond what people tell him he has

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="865">14:25</a> if anyone noticed, the amount of votes for the ship is 2020 since the ship sucks as much as 2020 did but ngl they SUCKED!

I actually like Riley and Lucas but I definitely feel like their relationship could have been so much better if girl meets world wasn’t on Disney Channel

Omg i just realized that you have a t-shirt of Julio & Isabela 🥰 it’s so cute

Nunca me vi por completo Girl meets world, pero siempre pensé que la relación de Riley y Lucas era forzada. Realmente me gustó lo que hicieron después con Maya y el chico, como dijiste, es más interesante.

I don't hate Ricky and Nini, I just knew that they were doomed from the start.

Tim Federle really dropped the ball on HSMTMTS in season 2 and ruined what season 1 built.

I know my comment has nothing to do with the theme of the video but I love Mayas outfit on <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="963">16:03</a> it is so cute! 😍