Ford's been having cam phaser issues for SIXTEEN years! Good lord.

i know this video is over three years old, however the presented information is very important and relevant in 2023. thank you.

Thanks a lot for the info, I plan on buying a used gen 2 raptor and this eases my mind. I have done months of research and cam phasers seem to be the biggest conversation piece in all the forums so this info helps massively. Appreciate it man.

Removing the cab off the frame is insanely unnecessary on F150’s for cam phaser replacements. I work at Ford and have done plenty of these repairs myself, and removing the cab is by no means necessary.

Lots of great info. Enjoy learning more about these trucks. Keep it coming!

Thanks Kino ! Always helping the Raptor community.

I really appreciate this video - can’t thank you enough.

2018 eco here... with 36k miles on it. Apparently the noise i've been hearing for the last couple days is my cam phazer. Thanks for the "cold start" mention.

I was at the dealership to talk about a Roush upgrade, when my advisor stopped me after turning on my truck. Told me he heard a noise, and that I needed to turn my truck in to get my cam phasers upgraded. Nothing beats a good advisor and a warranty!

Thank you for the info!! Much appreciated!!!!!

Appreciate the info sir! Thank you.

Great video - thanks for the interview with the tech, good to get some expert information on this issue. I've got my 2019 Expedition (36k miles) at the dealer right now getting a new cam phaser. I had the same issue on my 2011 F150, but at 120k miles. You'd think Ford would have this solved and fixed by now.

Great video, cool seeing the phaser apart. It’s not just the h.o. That has problems. Ford says they don’t cause any durability problems. Hope Steve doesn’t get in trouble for not following the workshop manual.

Best video about this issue I have seen.

Very helpful video thank you!

I was driving in my truck in NorCal, when I was trying to pass people on the freeway. Seemed like the truck lost some of its power, it was downshifting more to be in the power and when I heard a chime and the wrench icon came on the screen. Pulled over and checked the engine nothing seemed out of the ordinary. 100 miles down the 5 from and a CEL came on, took it to Autozone to read the codes and a P0018 and P0021 was read. Took it to Ford yesterday and dropped it off, called me this morning. Cam Phasers need to be replaced at 48k, so looks like in a week I'll have my truck back. What a bummer we spend so much $ on these trucks to have issues.

Really appreciate content like this. I have a ‘19 built in April, no issues so far, but the cam phaser problem has been a concern.

Very good video. Just bought a 18 Raptor and have been curious about this issue. I don't believe that I have it on my new used raptor. Glad to hear that its really not that serious and from the research that I have done, this is an issue that is fixed after a one time service. Other than this issue, it's a very solid engine.

Very valuable video

I have a 2020, 3.5 ecoboost in my f150 lariat. It went in to the dealer for phasers to be replaced

I was told by a Ford service guy , that if you floor your gas peadal , and try to start, the engine will not start, only turn over, but it will force oil up to the Phasers, quieting rattle

The video is very helpful. Thank you. Can’t believe the tech mentions that it’s not a big deal. Puts me more at ease. I haven’t had issues but looking to budget for future problems. Anyone know how much the replacement should cost at a dealer or independent shop if they can do the work ?

good video, thanks

Ford 5.4 3v the early cam phaser generation, was training for the Ecoboost engines.

I watched the whole video, but I'm still confused - is the problem specifically the metal pin or that little plastic part that breaks off? Or does the pin cause the plastic part to break off? Is it a design flaw?

Nice Video, thanks for the info. I purchased a preowned 2014 F150 with the 3.5 EB with 13K miles and put almost a total of 55K when I trade it in. No issues or noises from that engine, that is why I got a 2018 (new) with the same engine specs. Right now is at the dealership due to this issue. Still under warranty, however I am concerned about for how long they warrant the repairs? Anybody knows?

I just put a 2018 expo in shop for the same problem. Ford told dealer to put whole new engine in it with new turbos and all.

Was excited to shop for a Raptor. After the FB page I’m on and channels like this....there’s no way I’m getting one.

Just got the call about My 2018 Raptor (35,700 miles), loud rattle on startup and they are replacing the cam phasers. This worries me for future of owning the truck? Should I get out of it ask for a extended warranty on the work being done since I’m so close to being out of warranty? Also with only 200 miles on it had to have the entire trans replaced right after I bought it 😩. But it’s runs strong between then absolutely no problems and I DRIVE it the Raptor way.

Mine does the rattle too. I thought it was the timing chain and all

If this Issue is on all Ford 3.5 Ecoboost, They need to make this an Official Recall!

my 2019 navigator with 10k is doing the same thing, its at the dealer getting 4 cam phasers

Yea I just had to drop off my 18 F150 3.5L Ecoboost to the dealer yesterday. 3,200.00 dollars worth of warranty work Cam Phasers and, Timing Chain. Thank goodness it's still under the 60,000 powertrain warranty. I just hit 49,000 miles. But now I only have what 11,000 miles left after this warranty work is done. But I did buy the Ford ESP warranty with the 125,000 mile warranty. I'm glad I did now. Lol 😂😂

wow I am going through this same thing the new fix should be it

Mine is in for this problem right now, 2019 Gen 2

you can prime the oil system prior to starting a cold engine so you won't have phaser rattle noise

Thanks for the informational video. I have a 2019 Raptor with 25K miles that's going into the dealer for cam phaser repair ( rattling on cold start up) next month. Any advice to pass on before I bring it is much appreciated. Happy Hoildays!

Could this trigger a check engine light or a VCT code?

So does the cam phasers they swap out for not have stupid plastic parts in? Otherwise the problem is jut going to return right?

It is a big deal. These engines run off the knock sensors and when those cam phasers cannot accurately control the timing of the valve train (think dynamic compression) under high boost, high load you run the risk of detonation. This happens because the fuel, timing and valve train maps don't take into account the cam phasers could be clocked out of position and missing the overlap that is supposed to be there at high RPM. Around 25,000 miles I had my first go with these. It started as a loud start-up rattle around 15,000 miles and progressed to being generally noisy during moderate acceleration. Over time this noise increased until the engine had detonation and I received multiple P03XX misfire codes. If you don't think misfires are a big deal on a boosted engine, especially with cast aluminum pistons running over a BAR of boost... well. 40,000 miles and I am back to where I was at around 20,000 miles. These engines are a ticking financial time bomb outside of a warranty.

I did an oil change on my buddy's 2020 Raptor and had (6) small needle bearings come out of the oil filter! He did complain that he had a ticking/ knocking sound coming from the motor and thought it might be the Cam Phaser issue or just in need of an oil change. Where would these needle bearings have come from? I seen a video of a Ford 6.0 diesel having engine failure due to lifter bearing issues, could that be an issue here as well? (Only 12,000 miles BTW)

Could bad cam phasers cause low oil pressure ?

I’m having a lot of trouble with my 2018 ford raptor. I got a VCT code.

My truck will be on its 3rd set of cam phasers, it`s back ordered for 20 weeks.

Do 2020s have it too?

I have a 17 Raptor, I noticed you said the 18 has revisions and bigger turbos? Could you maybe clarify, thanks

My turbos went bad after cam phasers were replaces

I think my next truck with be an early 2000s ls can buy an entire running engine for like $500

Damn and I really wanted a Raptor too. Oh well.

3:15 OMG did they really lift the entire body off the chasis? You must really have faith in that tech to put it all back together. Anyway - I think I have this issue- my check engine light came on a few weeks ago. Local mechanic said it was "cam shaft balancer" but after watching your video I think it's the phaser. I have the cold start rattle and the random engine knock. I have a 2018 Raptor. I got in April 2018. I;m at 67,000 miles.

I love me a good set of messed up cam phasers

Use caution shopping for a used Raptor right now. Every one I’ve found has been a Ford Buy Back that’s has been lemon law’d after the phasers have been replaced. Ford will give you a 12/12 warranty but they’re not eligible for a dealer extended warranty.

Damn that would be painful to see your truck like that

I"M GLAD I WALKED A WAY....................

happened to mine also

My 2017 has had it replaced two times now has 90K on it. Today I got in my 2019 and it’s smoking like a 85 Monte Carlo

It sure would be nice if ford would use a better cam phasor after all these years. I guess it's cheaper for ford to have the customers pay for it.

As a former ford tech I've seen this a lot. And why did you lift the whole cab to do phasers? That's a bunch of extra work when they can be done without removing the cab. And two. Out of all the ones I've done 99% were due to lack of maintenance. Neglected oil changes. The oil journals are so small they get trash in them causing them to fail. A good way to tell if phaser is bad you will get a misfire code for one side. All cylinders on that side will have a misfire code. Cause it's stuck in advance or retard. This is nothing new. You will also feel it.

Yes my 2017 Raptor with 18k miles is at Chapman Ford Scottsdale dealer shop now getting the Cam Phazer pinging sound fixed, I have always heard it but went away once warmed up until recently, then my Ford service advisor said they always new it was an issue but only fix if customer complains about it, I was like WTF lady, seriously, she just smiled with no comment, I am not happy with Ford, I luv my Raptor, but Ford does not take care of its customers, so now i am searching for all known Raptor issues before my 3 year warranty expires in March 2020, thank you for great video :))

2017 raptor in for this issue at 70k miles

Lmao that mechanic is like get the fuck away from me

Now in August 2023 , are the newest cam phasers FAILPROOF ?

Mine rattles at startup but not for the quick 2-3 seconds most people experience. Mine is more like 30 seconds...wastegate rattle? That's what I was originally thinking myself

My '17 had this at about 29,000 miles. The cam phasers were replaced, and the noise started back within a couple of thousand miles. My lease is up at the end of April and I was thinking about keeping the truck, but I'm thinking I'm not going to at this point.

It hurts to see this guy's chewed up nails and tremors. Ford is sticking it to the consumers of these EcoBoost engines. It good to do a little research before buying a vehicle.

It says something about the design of a truck when you have to pull the cab off a truck to work on the engine.

Dang, the dude took the body off of the truck for Cam Phaser replacement?

How much did fixing the problem run sir? I seen it runs somewhere between $3,000-$3500 is that correct?

Number one problem is the oil pan pickup tube, the screen gets clogged and starves the cam phasers. Don’t believe the crap about synthetic oils going 5000 miles between oil changes. If you have had to replace cam phasers and timing chains. Do an engine clean with an oil additive, then pull the pan and clean the junk out of the oil pickup tube. The twin turbo sixes are harder on oil because of the temperatures. I have heard of people that have had to replace cam phasers three times in 150,000 miles. The pickup tube screen is not that big and gets clogged easy. Smart techs will check it to make sure it’s not clogged. Don’t replace cam phasers and timing chains without checking. FYI

whats the defference between gen2 2017 and gen2 2019 turbos ?

Do they NEED to pull the body to do these?

Anyone know if the 2nd gen 2.7's having this issue, too?

I haven't seen anyone pull the cab to do cam phasors before.

For a 90k truck that is unacceptable.

It’s completely blows my mind that ford literally learned NOTHING from the complete failure of the 5.4, just stick the same garbage design into their most expensive and prestigious truck and hope for the best! When will ford build a truck that doesn’t need the cab lifted off of it before even 50,000 miles. When these trucks are outside of warranty, it’s going to break the damn bank just to keep these things roadworthy. Junk motors. I have a 2017 and I’ve been through 2 sets of these phasers.

So your saying its a good thing I kept my 2014 Gen 1 .

I’m a Ford guy but this is embarrassing, they’ve had chain stretch and/or phaser issues for over 20 years! Starting with the 4.0 sohc. What a joke. No wonder they are going electric.

False. I had a rattle for a while and my truck failed to start. Had them replaced and 12k miles later I'm getting the same rattle again. I'm requesting a new motor.

Lol your questioning someone working for Ford. Too many issues on these raptors for me.

I got 2 Raptors with this issue I’m pretty sure lol 😂

2017 f150 at 59,000 cam phasers going out most likely because their plastic suck ass oil pan leaked.

They’re charging me 10 grand to get an engine replacement

Putting anything plastic in an engine is just stupid engineering

buy a tundra problem solved

The Master mechanic wasn't really helpful at answering your questions

Sounds like a bad part design.

A lot of noises on fords are considered normal and don't require your attention. furd junk.

Ok so I’m not going to buy a Raptor. Thanks 👍🏻

I've finally solved this problem on mine by using a pre-oiler. $500 solution versus >$2K phaser replacement that's just a "reset button". Video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/isWBqK-U0Mq6j58.html

American manufacture.... designed to fail. Quantity over quality. Plastic parts in the engine. Pathetic. I've been shopping for US trucks for years and I JUST CANT DO IT. Pathetic business.

Don’t buy fords, Ram, Gm,, cant put the miles on them, thanks to the French, Italians, and mindless engineers of today. Buy Toyota !