Can a Makita 40v Impact Wrench Drive an Earth Auger? Is an Impact Wrench BETTER than a Drill?
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Күн бұрынYou guys asked for it so here goes. Is an Impact Wrench capable of driving an earth auger? And if so, is it better than using a drill? Is it better on your wrists?
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@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
"Actual" Makita 40v Earth Auger Tool Review kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bLV_o5V7rq_Jknk.html Makita 40v Hammer Drill with Earth Auger kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lc91qKWhz8y8g3U.html
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Impacts are rated for their results, as in ultimately at the end of the day how tightened can it make something or how tightened of something can it remove. Which means diddl'y in the form of active, every second it's being used, radially applied torque from a drill. There's practically no relation. It would be like converting the watts of a corded drill to horsepower, then implying a horse could drill the same size hole as the drill because you did the math. Sharing units of measurement doesnt mean the bits on the inside share anything in common. Great vid
@InvestwithAlen 2 жыл бұрын
Try it by attaching it to a motorcycle rear wheel, a power washer, a multi tool, and pack of mentos.
@lumixpepper 2 жыл бұрын
Why not try this with makita angle grinder or router, at 30'000 rpm? Of course mixer would suit better.. :D
@diltzm 2 жыл бұрын
Rotary hammer too please. Or a chainsaw on its side, or anything else that spins.
@joshuaduvall1996 2 жыл бұрын
grinders have high rpm but nearly no torque to turn the auger, drills are basically the opposite.
@terrysimpson5564 11 ай бұрын
You would be needed if a new wrist
@753zXc 2 жыл бұрын
I guess eventually you had to do it to let them understand.... Anyway good video! Impact drivers/wrenches are fun, sleek and cool, but sometimes a drill is much much better
@DerFledderer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for trying out what I suggested!
@turboandy10 Ай бұрын
Great video, very informative!
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Ай бұрын
Thanks
@Lindz37 Жыл бұрын
loving your channel man, iv just entered into the XGT stuff! so far so good. will be gathering a few more bits and pieces at the Mystery Creek field days!
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
That's a good place to buy. They had some good deals last year. I will hopefully get there again this year.
@mst5517 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Thanks for testing :) I guess I finally have to buy the DHP486 because the DTW701 is not up to the task.
@dariusfrench5 2 жыл бұрын
OMG even in the overside of the World 🇫🇷 , we Heard the impact wrench and did you notice that the vibration made a earthquake ...😁
@ericwolff6059 2 жыл бұрын
Obvious outcome. But thanks for trying it anyway. Basically the impact socket driver is screwing the auger in to the ground, whereas a drill at a constant high speed, and with enough torque is extracting the material. Big difference. Great video as per usual. Well done squire.
@out_on_bail 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t ruin videos before I watch them
@ProfessorKahn 2 жыл бұрын
@@out_on_bail thats why you read comments after
@whya2ndaccount 2 жыл бұрын
Kia ora from this side of the ditch. Thinking of my Kiwi mates tomorrow!
@kevinpunter7960 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos for putting together the demonstration. It was never going to be a win for the impact. You're a brave man opening up Pandora's Box for further auger driving challenges :O Someone is bound to say "router" !
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Someone has already mentioned Router...
@berenzable Жыл бұрын
Would love to see this with the Makita 40v SDS HR003GZ - or whatever the latest Makita 40v SDS drill is. The larger socket could be great vs a 1/4" socket on the impact wrench. If you manage, please try it one different modes
@mtheory3 9 ай бұрын
I have thick clay soil and tried it with a Ryobi hammer drill (the cheap $40 one). Didn't work. Tried the Ryobi impact driver. It moved it a bit further into the soil but stopped soon after. Tried an impact wrench. Didn't work. Tried the massive brushless hammer drill ($200) and got it a decent anount further before I realized the the auger bit was firmly stuck in the ground and I couldn't back it out
@corymiller9854 2 жыл бұрын
Haha nice vid was funny. The cordless mixing drill would have the best chance getting it going rpm wise may help:]
@brentfowler2317 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! I thought so!!
@smurfx 2 жыл бұрын
can you try a rotary hammer drill next?
@MJF40 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used my Bosch 18v hammer drill and it was just fine.
@Senkino5o 2 жыл бұрын
That's a cute little auger.
@fiveeightdrumstudio3499 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use an 18V drill with these or are those not tough enough?
@dreamcat4 2 жыл бұрын
we already discussed this in the previous video. but the most obvious tool for the average joe to use is an sds plus drill. and preference being the most powerful one which is the milwaukie sds max. then you need the 3:1 reduction gearbox to slow it down a bit. this requires some at home fabrication to get the adapter to the gearbox. to fabricate (or repurpose) a large handle to steady it. and to then connect the output side of the gearbox to the auger it probably isnt too difficult if you can find and source the right parts. and that really is the most difficult step. then attaching them.. well best if you can weld or braze them together... but this is not a precision tool. far from it. so the tolerances they don't need to matter very much. so failing that bodging them together with some basic skills or fixings will probably also work too. just not be quite as durable for a longer tool lifetime this type of solution will be a fraction of the price of the special purpose tool. maybe only $100 or $159 usd excluding the price of the sds.... and of course can keep on using the sds for other normal stuff
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Well no makita sds drill will do it as they have torque limiters. They aren't even rated to do hole saws let alone massive augers.
@dreamcat4 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL heh i did suggest the milwaukie SDS max and NOT the makita for a reason... because it is indeed a pretty challenging task for a cordless tool. so then you probably want the best option (if going cordless). which just doesn't seem to be the makita in this case. can't win them all. certainly a good thing to know about those specifics on why the makita just isn't suitable. thing is that other guy already is doing this with an SDS (of some sort) and it worked out well enough for him to recommend it. and the reduction gearbox itself will also reduce the torque being presented to the tool (by a factor of 3 in his case, but I have also seen many other ratios gearbox, for which of course you will trade off the max auger speed, when the SDS maxes out at ~approx 500rpm). personally i would just try forget the cordless aspect for the moment. and try a different type of SDS, like a cheap wired one. that you doesn't mind abusing / cheaper and might have more grunt. i know that goes against the whole 'cordless everything' mentality.... by doing it in stages to acutally get to the point to have made up such a gubbins. then it could afterwards be tried on some cordless version later on. in retrospect. Without it being such a waste of time. Then again didn't you already buy your own special makita tool for this. So I suppose not much reason to go around messing about with homemade solutions like that. No video then :( (unless some other youtubers try it, on some other channel) 🙂
@yngndrw. 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I don't doubt that the torque limiter would prevent them from being used with an auger, but I do use mine with hole saws and a paint mixer all the time - works great for those usages.
@FatTraction 2 жыл бұрын
Next try the auger on the 36v lawn mower 😆. That would be a sight to see.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
🤔
@vincedameion2631 2 жыл бұрын
Square drive to drill adapter for a very small auger, bulb planter
@WayneKurr-fz7io 9 ай бұрын
Can you please explain why there are 7/16 hex impact wrenches, then? And can you also explain why a 1" auger bit on a 7/16 impact wrench will get you much further drilling into a tree stump than a 1" auger bit on a drill? But not a 6" auger into earth? What are the physics behind this?
@ashtondrake3407 2 жыл бұрын
Could you try this test with the Dewalt Dcd996? Please
@1nt123 2 жыл бұрын
this is certainly better if you're paid by the hour ;-)
@michaeljugg9415 2 жыл бұрын
I used a impact driver once with a drill attachment didnt have a drill at the time with a wood arbour 1 1/2 bit that was a nightmare the noise levels from the impacting was almost unbearable not recommened
@MZARIMI 2 жыл бұрын
Does earth auger work on Makita 40v rotary hammer?
@Sgten01 2 жыл бұрын
Was really hoping it could do it, thanks for trying :D. Sounds like ill have to go get that dewalt version of makita's auger.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
What Dewalt version?
@Sgten01 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL DCD470. Appears to be the same tool apart from those specialised handles makita has.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. No one is making one like this except Makita. Don't try it without a similar handle extension because you will regret it.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine Milwaukee and Dewalt will copy this idea soon if you're not in a hurry.
@Sgten01 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Yeah hope they will. Getting a makita is just far too expensive for me. Dewalt is $600 for skin, but with makita I have to pay close to 1400 for skin and batteries :(.
@cookdislander4372 Жыл бұрын
I need a mini earth auger for impact wrench when im forced to do boring planting jobs at work lol
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
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@Burritosarebetterthantacos 5 ай бұрын
Thought about doing this with a hilti sds drill with a clutch
@Gav47 2 жыл бұрын
The 40v drill is such a beast, was looking through the Makita JP site and they list it as 150 Nm but its listed as 140 Nm on the UK site. Is there a made in Japan model that is more powerful than the one the rest of us get?
@johnlucier5654 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno but in the 00s when Sony had a widely reported defect in its PS2 called "disc read error" they continued to ship US models with the bad component for several years while Japan market units used a different component. (and they charged $125 to repair units that were out of warranty) In this case it might just be sloppy documentation or spec testing by Makita. You know the little 18v handheld blower? I have the original version. Recently bought an 8 tool kit, it came with the redesigned model that has a noticeably smaller body. Same RPM. They rate it higher in both CFM and MPH. However next to the old one, the new one is weaker.
@TakamiWoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Expected: it to work better Not Expected: the Tiger King cowboy outfit 🤣
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Are you friends with Carol F@#$&n Baskin?
@TakamiWoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 🤣🤣😉
@reaperreaper5098 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the other auger vids on patreon, so I missed the entire 'would an impact wrench do it' discussions. Not going to lie, had no idea or expectation of whether it'd work or not. There was no 'intuitive' answer to me. It wasn't even a question I'd ask, even if only out of curiosity. Only that if an impact did work, it'd be amongst the worst options.
@justAnotherMike82 2 жыл бұрын
try an sds rotary hammer?
@januszR 2 жыл бұрын
before watching: I think the auger will snap (not made for this torque) or move very slow.
@mwhudsondoyle 2 жыл бұрын
I think the impacts will just flex the auger and not actually turn it into the soil much at all
@michaeljugg9415 2 жыл бұрын
😁🤟i knew it wouldn't work ha some people just dont get how tools work ie impacts vs a drill 🤣🤣👏👏👏👏thanks for this 1 more or less impacted straight away and deffinintly not better for ya wrist or tool parts /noise levels👍
@DavidDavid-uu3vi 5 ай бұрын
Why only 40v ? Why not 18v or 21v ?
@chrisvaiuso6010 2 жыл бұрын
How far would you get with a sub compact drill?
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Not very far
@januszR 2 жыл бұрын
...since the Makita is strong but not the strongest drill and the trigger is only adjustable by your finger: What do you reckon about using a strong machine capable of Bluetooth changes? Set the settings on the lowest speed (min and max) so that you can fully press the trigger and there's no risk of Kickback or speeding up issues. I think the Milwaukee OneDD2 or the Bosch GSR 18V-150 could work...
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
There is no risk of kickback with an impact wrench.
@januszR 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I didn't talk about an impact driver/wrench but about some strong drill which is adjustable by Bluetooth :) (sorry, should have been more clear: I was just sharing my thoughts about the test before with the 40V-Makita drill)
@januszR 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL probably still the question if you can adjust the tool to such a slow speed as it's max
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Oh OK. Yeah that would make life easier. But it's still torture for the poor drills. Can't imagine a Milwaukee drill lasting very long doing this.
@januszR 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL true... still very tempting (obviously no one else has a specific tool for that auger). I wonder how many people break their drills just because they're loving your videos and wanna play around, too 😂
@paulshelley3770 2 жыл бұрын
Every time he touches that drill or impact the base just above the battery below the handle flexes with that little bit of pressure that looks sketchy to me how stable is that base
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
It's designed to flex at that point to help limit vibration to the battery.
@DavidDavid-uu3vi 5 ай бұрын
OK THE Q IS : can you use it with 21v cordless drill or is it not powerfull for that ?
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 5 ай бұрын
You mean a fake drill? No "real" tool company advertises tools as running on 21v.
@drkastenbrot 2 жыл бұрын
im surprised it even went in at all. the mass of the auger is way too much for that impact to have a good effect. most of the energy just goes into the tool rather than into the earth.
@diltzm 2 жыл бұрын
Do this with a sds max rotary hammer 😆
@KJPage Жыл бұрын
How about some demo's using some better quality products like the Ozito PXC range?
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
I've never heard Ozito referred to as "better" than anything.
@KJPage Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Ozito PXC range is an import of the German highly reputable Einhell product line rebranded by Bunnings.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
So You genuinely think Ozito PXC is a top brand better than Makita XGT??? LOL. You've never used any power tools have you.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
Either that or you work for Bunnings.
@KJPage Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I have both. My father was a fan of Makita but I have switched to Ozito PXC and having used both see it as a huge step in the right direction. 👍
@Ariccio123 2 жыл бұрын
Hehehehe well, I guess that technically worked to some degree
@aaronknight7163 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha can’t believe people thought this was a better way
@michaeljugg9415 2 жыл бұрын
Metal on metal banging would be like a brass bell dinging 2900 times a min or what it does on impacking the dtw700😵😬😬😬😬i think the mud soaks up the noise or have you edited the sound reducing the tang
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
The camera microphone cuts out really loud noise. But it didn't really sound like a bell. It was super loud and unpleasant, and all the vibration caused a bit of a liquefaction effect.
@michaeljugg9415 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL ah right i thought i think KZfaq changes the sound aswell would be loads louder for real..and yeah i can imagine 😵😵😬😬😬👍
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to capture the actual loudness of tools on KZfaq due to the camera and due to me usually turning down the sound on power tools so that people don't complain that they are too loud.
@moorabinda 2 жыл бұрын
Footrot flats gum boots 😎
@andyholloway2524 2 жыл бұрын
Well someone had to is suppose
@maizhou4640 2 жыл бұрын
drive it with a circular saw if you can converted
@henrywilsmore8623 2 жыл бұрын
Why dont you do it with an sds hammer drill slower speed than a standard drill
@michaeljugg9415 2 жыл бұрын
Next be a sds 40/ 80v/ demo hammer do that 300mm .....joking 😁👍
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
People have SERIOUSLY asked for that.
@michaeljugg9415 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL i would believe it 🤣🤣crazy some people just dont understand the uses of tools
@AudioOrchardMusic Жыл бұрын
You could always buy a bunch of augers and use this to screw your deck down to the ground…
@antonioperez7528 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe other drills should have a crack at it. 👍🏾😎
@RobsGoneARye 2 жыл бұрын
Great if you were putting auger stakes in the ground though
@veitjacob9764 2 жыл бұрын
What are you doing to this poor impact driver??😭
@BBZILA 2 жыл бұрын
3 2 1 A & E
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the ending...?
@BBZILA 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yeah
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for someone to mention it, though I knew very few people would make it right to the end.
@BBZILA 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL dude love the content find it very helpful got the lightweight 40v slide compound after watching your vid have the 1216L but a pain to move and setup on site so the loss of a bit of depth nothing compared to the ease of lifting out of van and setting up
@joshawabrown6794 2 жыл бұрын
It not gonna do it
@user-cu3uo2cs8i 2 жыл бұрын
couple months ago I twisted my auger drill bit in 3 seconds by using a 360Nm impact wrench. You could make this video earlier............sad
@MrHavokman 2 жыл бұрын
WHat AbOUt tHE HigH tOrquE 1 iNCH IMPAcTS???
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Go away
@brettwalkom948 2 жыл бұрын
There's always one
@TheBoufhead 2 жыл бұрын
Booooooooooo! That's not the 3/4 impact wrench I demanded. BOOOOOO!!! Hahaha nah thanks for doing stupid shit for our amusement bro. Went exactly how I thought it would and I laughed when I seen the video in my feed. Keep the videos coming, stupid or informative.
@viracocha3125 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but stupid test 💚
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
As I clearly stated.
@oockeshoek1122 2 жыл бұрын
What the f*** are you doing man seriously that thing is for tightening and losening bolts and for driving leg bolts and screws! If you drill with it you destroys it, but its your consequense not mine😡😡😡😣😣
@brettwalkom948 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't watch it did you
@UnacceptableViews 2 жыл бұрын
geez mate you're more dense than the clay he was trying to drill.. it was a test ya dingus
@oockeshoek1122 2 жыл бұрын
@@brettwalkom948 yes i did and i saw everything, and in my opinion he tried to destroy a impact wrench. so what? please shut the fuck up man🤬🤬🤬
@jaywelker5566 2 жыл бұрын
you're going to lose your shit when you figure out what a lineman's impact wrench is used for.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
I never realised they were made for nuts and bolts??? Someone told me they were designed for earth augers and nothing else. What a silly billy I am. I feel so foolish.
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