Yah the identity of Archangel was super easy to figure out.

Victor: Oh Hell No..!!!..... Lmao....

@clarissa35f No father would want to see his child killed. Being a Ghoul is already questionable, but being a Vampire is terrible

@clarissa35f No shit. I think that is one of the main plot lines. I am a Sabbat type of player, so I would just set on fire anyone hurting my sons and bloodbond Mark and Isaiah for their own good. Free will in hands of my beloved but idiotic sons is going to get them killed young. Victor temple is full of contradictions, he wants to be an Anarch but has to respect the free will of his sons even if they are on self-destruction path, while being a Ventrue, a clan that tends to give their people a territorial zeal. I agree with Fiorenza, he will eventually tip towards the Camarilla if after a Convention of Thorns 2.0 they agree to adapt to the new world.

@@onemoregodrejected9369 This is just a very funny comment because the Anarchs are all about self-governance, so Victor is being perfectly in-character. And since when do you have to be Sabbat to kill someone hurting your family? You're just not supposed to do it for shits and giggles and let humans know what you are, but murder is perfectly permitted if you've got the strength to back it up.

Can't have Brujah without leather!

@@chromacypher8409 Clan Leather jacket!

don't tell that to your parrents, ive tried but it doesn't seem to work xD

That moment happened to me when my dad was doing word puzzles and asked me if I know a word and I did. Was just a matter of me having specialized knowledge that he didn't, but I did realize at that time that he wasn't always right and didn't know everything.

Nines is a straight up school counselor

YES! Like, I keep getting pregnant every time he's on screen 0_0

@@demonhunter437 same sis

@@AraxielPussycat #WeAllKnowThatFeel,Sister

Not daddy. Big *papi* energy

Watch Luis in Exu: Calamity, all four episodes are on the CR youtube, he plays an actual dad, and its devastating hahaha

Thank you very much. :)

Yes, very well delivered. And again a very light touch story-telling. I don't think I saw a single dice roll, although there were some facial reactions and some notes made.. I particularly liked JC's reaction when Mark said to Annabelle that he was "safer to her alive".

@@JasonCarl I really admire your multiple interpretations of Npcs. Thanks to you and all the cast I'm learning to role better my various vampires. Lots of bloody hugs from Ecuador!!!

@@mishellemacias hola Ecuador! :D

@@JasonCarl hello Jason!!!

Both are daddies... Nines is more like the anti-autoritarian approach with a lot of support Carver is more like the " Throw her in the pool she'll learn to swim "- approach

Rule 1 Don't talk about Vampire Club Rule 2 there are no rules

@Jimmy Jazz a young one with a grenade, lets not forget the details

in the game, yes, in L.A. by night is debatable. Honestly he keeps deflecting questions instead of answering them, it really makes me miss the nines from the game, He would have a speach on the redy for moments like that, because he's not even that smart but he leads by exemple.

Ancient Carthage or Carthage, Mississippi? The latter is way closer to home than I would like!

Most Brujah from Ancient Carthage would be like Menele, they were much more...interesting imo back then, Meneleans are imo again the most interesting thing about the Brujah.

Carthage Brujah were baby-eating demon worshippers and deserved to be destroyed. Oh but also demons aren't real and you shouldn't worry about them. There's no such thing as salubri, that's jus a rumour. -Regent Strauss, probably

I have the sneaking suspicion that Nines descends from one of the rare True Brujah, and not The Usurper Bloodline.

Ill make a note of that comment by you

Yeah, sure but one can hold his own and other would last like 5sec alone

Radek Mikoška we all have to start somewhere 😂

It was a small garou but he still did kill it.

@@pepethefrog6809 small weakned and surprised. In a one on one a wolf will dismantle most vampires. Annebelle just happened to have silver. Wonder if she cottoned on to that?

@@bartconnolly6104 Yeah, the Garou that Nines killed was running from the bigger one. Which you had the pleasure of having as your tango partner for 5 minutes.

Last I heard, The last round was burned down by an Anarch faction called the McNeils (named after the leader of the original LA anarch movement who Nines followed). Buuuut maybe that was retconned.

Or rebuilt/repaired

@@VandalAudi Pretty sure that is from one of the Gehenna stories which were retconned wholesale, since obviously you can't continue your storyline into the 2010s if the world ended in 2005.

The bathroom is the office

@@Ribula1 What I thought :) The only room up there - hope they partially cleaned it...

Speaking of, what's with the pineapple emojis? Is there a thing that I missed or is that just X being a loony toon malkavian????

Apparently he was palling around with Jeanette and Therese didn't like that and now no one's seen Jeanette, his drum circle is dead and somethings going on with him that Therese left a meeting with Vannevar to deal with so whatever it is seems serious. Personally my theory is that Jeanette fucked with X somehow (maybe his mind because she's a strong Malkavian) and is keeping him somewhere, all these texts being "from X" but not actually. All just speculation though, I'm sure we'll see in season 4 or 5. oh, also there was that bit where I think the last time we saw him he was on the run from Therese and said he couldn't go back to Santa Monica? all seems pretty scary to me

@@persephone6204 x has the same problem! He can balance the "lets have fun" childish part of his charachter with the "down to business" tyrant part just like janette and therese. BOTH are necessary but either in extreme or exclusion of the other are harmful. X swings from being a meek slave to a total hedon having no boundaries at all. He realises hedonism and chaos are not the solution but thinks the only alternative is salvery and submission. Thos will continue until he reconciles the order and chaos within himself.

Let's all make bots to click on backblaze link :P

Whoever this mysterious person, pretty sure she is a Malkavian. No other way to know as mutch like this.

@@bencebotye3904 could just have an intel network like the Nosferatu (which she could be). Just look at the shadow broker from mass effect, he was just an ugly ass alien lizard ape with a fuckton of teeth but had shit on everyone in the galaxy because half of it was on his payroll. Besides Malkavians are insane, even the most controlled (like Therese) always speak in a very emotional way, be excited like X or seething like Therese. Archangel's voice is always calm and soothing.

Love this show but I wonder...Anyone else feel Archangel takes away from it so far by breaking the fourth wall in seemingly getting her info from watching the same videos we watch? I preferred the Ramona (What happened to her?) catch ups that did not include things she could not have gleamed through the rat pack.

@@ThisisnotTwitter iirc, Ramona is by herself out of LA (i don't remember if Chicago or San Francisco). Archangel could very well have an in with the Nosferatu network, those guys know everything.

And my bet is shes Nosferatu or Malkavian. I will be annoyed at Jasper if he went to make her into food and then realised who she was.

@@mattosborne3252 from what i understand Annabelle had someone else do the embracing (she was afraid that she couldn't do it) and based on that and what vampires she would reasonably know in season one i'ts not one of the coterie, it could be X but im not sure if he would do it, it could be Eva, but then there should have been some mentions when she and annabelle has talked alone, honestly i think the almost forgotten Ramona is the most likely, wich would make her a gangrel (if im not mistaken) but that's just my speculation.

@@TheRacoonGhost Thanks for answering my comment from about a year ago. My life has moved since then.

@@mattosborne3252 apparently not enough for you to not need to reply...

@@TheRacoonGhost Its called a notification. You are the one necroposting, I am just calling you out on it. It was a subtle hint to say stop it. I am now asking less politely.

I agree that a talk with Victor would be good but Mark should do that, not Annabelle, since the whole point of this was that Mark is an adult who makes his own decisions. He chose Annabelle as his partner, he chose to drink her blood, and if he becomes a vampire for Annabelle that is his decision as well. It's not Annabelles' responsibillity or right to fix that father-son-relationship beyond providing support.

@@TheyMadeMePickAName Yea i wasnt saying Victor and Annabelle would make that decision for Mark. I was saying is that considering its his son, and with both Victor and Annabelle having an understanding of how consequential and radically life-changing the decision is (particularly the more experienced person in this scenario, victor)... Communication is incredibly important, at the very least for the idea of Informed Consent. Like with Eleanor's situation... she wasnt exactly as informed on what was going on as she could have been, even from Annabelle. Especially regarding the relationship of the three individuals involved. Annabelle is part of Victor's coterie, and he's been trying to help and watch out for her. Mark is Victor's son, and someone he's sacrificed A Lot to keep safe. And Mark is Annabelle's boyfriend. Just for the sake of not Harming relationships and creating distrust, anger, etc... Communication beforehand is incredibly important. Whether it is keeping people informed on whats going on, or making sure people are informed on what their decisions mean so they can make the best decision they can for themself.

That matches Annabelle's personality though. She tends to do whats best for her at any given moment and makes decision based on what she wants and not necessarily what is right. honestly i have trouble buying her as the charismatic face of the anarchs rising up to defend against the ivory tower. I understand the nature of the story they are telling but just a bit disconnecting that she keeps fucking up heavily and getting very good advice from much more powerful and older vampires but seems to nod her head then ignore it the next night.

*Leather Squelching Noise* Ah. A Brujah approacheth.

Well, Annabelle has no problems with it and Nines is pretty chill and knows how much she and Victor cares about Mark. And he'll probably make Victor pay the bill for it later. :)

@Timothy Owens exactly, it has nothing to do with being Anarch, it simply doesn't really respect the setting. There's no way a VTM campaign go as long as this with no humanity loss. I only remember one stain being gained, by Jasper back in S1. No frenzy checks unless there's fire involved, and even that only when it's a extreme situation. The best jokes with them and they just talk back and tell it to shut up. No clan banes ever get in play... This is a super sugar-coated WoD campaign. If the acting wasn't frequently amazing I would rage quit a long time ago.

@@HenriqueErzinger The best part of tabletop games is finding a group that's enjoyable to play with and bounce ideas off. Part of that is implementing house rules if the players feel that certain things hinder enjoyment. I see no issue with how they're playing the game, as every group I've stuck with in any tabletop game has always veto'd certain rules for the sake of fun. The least enjoyable groups I played with - and the ones that dissolved the fastest - were the ones that were huge sticklers about the rules, and power-gamed to the max. The only issue I have is no humanity loss, as it's just consistently left Annabelle without any sort of compromise to her altruistic nature.

@@IrisCorven Definitely agree with you there. Game systems are the tabletop gaming equivalent of a writing prompt. They're there to give you a starting point, not to constrict you and stop you from having fun. People should feel free to run Vampire however they want to run it to get the experience they're looking for/are comfortable with, and to tell the stories they want to tell. All decisions/changes are acceptable and fitting, because it's your universe you're creating. You can't do it wrong. Anyone who thinks it should be run a certain way is free to play their own universe. If I'm running dnd, for instance, I typically give my players as many short/long rests as they want. Short/long rests are like a difficulty setting in a videogame. Some people like to be challenged, some people want to relax on easy and enjoy a story. I have no problem going either direction. Similarly with Vampire, some people are really in to exploring the dark themes and some people just think vampires are fun to play around with. I have no problem with running it either way, as long as the players are having fun. I definitely agree with you about wanting to see humanity loss. It's up to them whether they want to do that or not, but I think failure and consequence are a vital component to compelling storytelling. Not including it denies them a lot of character growth and motivation. It would, in my opinion, improve the story.

@@IrisCorven Agreed

I think you mean #VADDY

Yeah I like that character. Very enjoyable

Sardious I’m really tempted to ask you “Z?”, but that might make me #BADDY

Who is Chloe?

@@MommyOfZoeAndLiam Jasper's ex girlfriend, Becca Scott played her.

Nines several decades of experience shows up.

@@poilboiler Ironic for an anarchist to be so philosophically organised in his thinking. It actually isnt... because anarchy does not necessarily necessitate an absence of order but I think you may catch my drift/

@@bartconnolly6104 The Brujah "philosopher king" side. Very hard to role-play extemporizing and props to Nines for doing so here.

#NinesIsTRUEBRUJAH

@@b_g_c3281 True Brujah are detach to their feelings. Nines has too much passion in him to be one.

I thought that Tenebration disables any sort of magical sight? At least, it did in V20 iirc.

@@DAEsaster eh sight might not work but any real gangrel knows you don't need sight if you pay enough attention

Flares are fun! Phosphorus is cool! I like chemicals, especially in Vampire school!

Gangrel darksight works in lasombra obtenebration according to Jason's storytelling when Karsh could see in Lucita's darkness. I think it's fair also, if obtenebration blocks any kind of sight beside lasombra's one it's too OP

The actor who plays Mark is lucky, very lucky :)

Bart Connolly he’s a ventrue, Pieterzoon, Hardestadt, et al used ghouls to run their day to day operations for their corporations. There are lots of behind the desk ghoul jobs Mark could do for Temple of Boom. As of now, it is strange seeing that Victor’s Temple of Boom empire consists only of Victor, his club staff and security. Where are the publicists, studio engineers, lawyers, copywriters, accountants, talent management etc? Sounds like a job a for ghoul to manage all that, especially when the boss can’t be seen during the daylight and literally sleeps during normal work hours. It’s less dangerous, and with a high profile the other kindred will have to think twice before taking any action towards Mark, especially now he has been known as Victor’s son.

MES or OWBN perhaps? (Larp versions)

Thanks very much! Glad you're enjoying our story. :)

@@AirellSkye Not a LARP. Just another version of vampire. :P

@@DeadHierophant fair enough. I hope you have a wonderful time! I do the larp version. Specifically Owbn (one world by night) it's a world wide organization and is super fun! I've done Vampire the Masquerade 15 years, I'm hooked.

also wanted to say, maybe some hardcore fans of VTM are used to grimness et al. I'm not, i come from some D&D ppl who emphasize on range&imagination. so: the revolution of these Brujah, spiritual BEFORE raw power, really talx 2 me. and J. Carl frames it better w/each season (creo). 💛🦇💛

​@@felipeparra551THANK YOU As another DnD I always get a little scared by how hardcore these VtM players are with how every single thing should backfire on the players

Maybe he should change it to Bishop since he apparently spent so much time on his knees anyway.

No clearly Ramona is a good option.

She is 12th as i remembered

@@drukhsynasusy207 I recall Jason saying she was the second weakest vampire generation. So that would make Annabelle a 13th generation with a blood potency of 1. The weakest being the Thin-Blood lines who have a blood potency of 0.

Because they're greeeeeeeeen!

Nosferatu are pretty good at finding shit

Totally is Chloe. When Jasper was in danger, and the rescue mission was about to start she told Jasper to "hang in there" through the radio broadcast. Also my kindest regards to the fine people of Ecuador, (and to the cast of LA by night of course... and pretty much everyone :D )

@@ExarchiasGhost Yeeeeees! I´m pretty sure is Chloe...but well, I have to wait to watch more episodes here in KZfaq

@@mishellemacias I recommend you to see the whole series from the beginning and to enjoy the journey. :) I watched all the videos so, far and I am planning to watch the playlist again one day :)

@@mishellemacias HTe voice is by the same actress. that does not mean the character is the same.

That does bring up the question of how Archangel/Chloe is getting her info.

Oohh, Annabelle didn't embrace Eleanor herself? Who did she ask to do it? o.o!!

Yeah, tends to cross boundaries. Wouldn't recommend. These players, however, are also actors .. allowing for some more physical embodiment of the characters, with the professional understanding that there's a separation between players/actors and their roles.

Agreed - physical contact must always be consensual. Good rule of thumb for any larp or tabletop. In fact, no player should ever feel compelled to interact in a scene that they are not comfortable with.

clarissa35f that is ok if consensual.

I meant the GM someone described in the comments that was kissing a player. I think Jason Carl is awesome! Sorry for the confusion.

clarissa35f whoops. I miscommunicated my point. The GM in these videos is excellent. I was referring to the person you talked about in your anecdote.

Annabelle rarely does TBH ^^;

So true, Nines didn't even flinch about it being a curse and all, they act as if geting the embrace was'nt the last resort for every kindred, but the sabbath

To be fair they don't have VTM books to actually catalog every different clan of kindred and all of their abilities, it's mostly word of mouth in the WoD, and if not engaging with certain clans for a long time (Lasombra and Tzimisce for example) their notable characteristics would only be know by elder kindred who have battled against the Sabbat at least in pre-V5.

I think that they are probably a Glass Walkers/Shadow Lords business, since they have shown up after Strikes appearance. Making contacts, gathering information and good disguise to get a meeting with data sensitive people.

They didnt but they do noooooooouuuuuuw

Yeah lmao

This makes a lot of assumptions. I am curious what your take is at the end of series.

​@@nateperkins9860is he not right though? She cries&rages when people do something wrong but she goes to embrace someone else's son without even asking them

@ she never embraced anybody

@@nateperkins9860​​⁠yeah, because her “I won’t but you can ask someone else and I’ll then be ok with it” is a bullshit mind twist of her own not to take responsibility over the things she fucks up, and the whole “this will help you be safe” is just another bullshit excuse to not cut her ties with the mortals she obsesses about. She just pulls them into her bullshit, keep pulling them into more danger, because god forbid she doesn’t get what she wants, face the consequences for anything she does or actually do the right thing for the ones she claims to care about and let them go. Every kindred becomes a kind of monster on their own right, she is the kind of monster that will suck everyone around them into the chaos she creates and expect to be told “oh, no, you are great sweetie, you are so smart and so right, and everyone will go along with what you decide and we’ll forgive you for everything always because your intentions are good”. She is completely self involved, narcissistic and self righteous. Honestly one of the main issues with how they outlined and hard railed the game is how forgiving they are of Anabelle’s bullshit, she suffers from great main character syndrome (awful to have at a table, but also why she is the weakest and most disliked character)

cause shes a stupid character

I’m pretty sure that’s his way of letting everyone know that he wants them to find their own answers. He even says it at some point

Seasons 4 and 5 are on the World Of Darkness KZfaq channel.

Victor would make him a thin blood too, he's the same generation as Belle, even though he's been a kindred for longer.

@@tudornaconecinii3609 I think Ramona is the one they need.

I actually think she turned Eleanor and now she's a thinblood.

@@tudornaconecinii3609 oh really when was it mentioned that Victor was 13th Generation?

Blade of Ashtaroth Annebelle mentioned she had someone else turn her I think

I'd so love to see a VTR game of this quality.

Honestly, I love all the players, but... I can never keep interest in Annabelle's epilogues. They're always just kinda weak...

Real deal, in my opinion is that for it to work she needs to be with players that know what they are doing, clearly they want to avoid fighting as if they don't know how it works.

Im late to the party, but I agree with you. I think in this instance at least, the reason is because of the content, the context its being discussed, and the tone. Compared to the other PC epilogues, this is such a casual discussion that doesnt carry anywhere near as much weight as the others. There isnt much of anything at stake, no big reveals, no tension between characters, nothing. Jasper and Eva were discussing their dynamic, revealing secrets to eachother that they werent sure how the other would take it, and were interrupted by an important character reveal. Victor found out A Lot about Ib, her thoughts on their friendship, where she's been, her new role as Sheriff, and how thats been affecting everything including how they were set up to save Jasper's life. Nellie found out her FBI Agent Ghoul's secret life, more about the inquisition, how things may be getting worse, as well as a secret almost meeting with Susanne. Then we have Annabelle and Mark here trying to be cute while talking with Nines about possibly making Mark a vampire. In content alone, one of these epilogues isnt carrying the same weight as the others. But then theres also the tone of all these different conversations. Annabelle's is just so... playful, whereas you can feel the anxiety about the future in all the others.

I was thinking the same thing, i havent finished thew whole season yet but if they make him a thinblood i'll be so upset the guy has potential to be a good bujah but not if he follow annabelle he needs to learn with nines, the one in the game btw, this one is broken

yes... and apparently into playlists

I suspected as much since the S2 epilogues. I was pretty sure that Annabelle turned her and that's why she was so evasive.

I've had so many FEELINGS about dear Ele and Belle, and now I want moAr...! :3

@@iniyariradio5829 riight? they're soooo cuuute /o\

And I *loooove* Belle's relationship with Mark! :3

@@iniyariradio5829 i actually don't like him that much. i mean he's fine and all but i always was more invested in Ele's half of the relationship. maybe i just can relate more, since i'm mostly into girls myself :P

Or maybe the ninth leader. If Nines reaches final death, Ten will replace him.

Nines is really a Toreador, "Dressed to the Nines."

@@lokithecat7225 Wouldn't it be Tens? but if they used Base-9 numbers, could be nineties next (90)