Anyone watching this video remember this man. He is a Canadian hero fighting for your rights as a Canadian. Not enough people know the name Rod Giltaca. This is the CEO of the CCFR (Canadian Coalition of Firearm Rights) if you are new to the sport please donate and subscribe to the CCFR. Thank you Rod.

Where city cops are concerned there is no such thing as safe storage. Consider the case of Mike Hargreaves in Toronto. For two days, thieves used sledgehammers and blowtorches to blast open his 1,700-pound, concrete-and-steel Brinks safe. After that they made off with about 35 guns. Toronto Police still charged Hargreaves with unsafe storage and he refused to return to Canada from Florida. It took 11 years before they decided to drop the bogus charges.

I know this is an older video, but I am going to weigh in here. I have a gun "cabinet" which is all I could afford at the time I got into firearms. Now I have a small gun "safe" which I store my restricted firearms in, which happens to fit in my bedroom closet. The cabinet now just holds non-restricted and ammo.

most safes arent any safer than those stack-on cabinets. you can easily cut throught 18 gauge steel with a cheap angle grinder

Hey guys,Hi Rod, love your channel,best Canadian specific channel out there.New shooter here from Red Deer AB (and first time poster). I know that the "stackon" argument has been beaten to death but I just wanted to put in my $.02. I thought it was settled.. ie: As per the previous ruling The crown vs Harry Barnes in Ontario June 24,2011 before the justice Carol Brewer ..The judge ruled that the metal school lockers Mr Barnes was using constituted a safe thereby negating the need for trigger locks. Below is an excerpt from the judges ruling. "[22] I find that the cabinets in which the defendant's prohibited firearms were stored fall within the definition of a· safe. Both of the lockers in which the prohibited firearms were stored were made of steel. Each cabinet was securely locked: one by a key and a padlock; the other by a locking system that uses a key to unbolt rods in the door from the frame of the unit. Indeed, despite their disagreement on other issues, the Crown and the defense expert both accepted that the units were securely locked. The Crown has not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that there was non-compliance with the regulation. The charges are dismissed". the first locker sounds like a school locker and the second sounds like a stackon. Before anyone says im arguing semmantics let me remind you this is legal precedent. Am I incorrect?

Thank you Rod for getting the ball rolling on these discussions. It needs to get out there more.

Thank you again for these excellent videos! I know that, as you say, you're not a lawyer. But you provide common-sense interpretations that most of us can understand without spending four years in law school. I've learned more in the past half-hour watching your videos than the sum total of what I've learned elsewhere in the past 10 years. Please keep up the good work!

you are the best information i ever need it thank you for your work

Great information,great channel!

Oh sorry, one more comment... 3:54 I have that same gun cabinet, I use cabinet and not safe as you did for the following reason. Most people do not know that Stack on has a trigger switch to unlock those electronic safes. There are even videos on YT showing how to break into that safe in under a minute. I called the company and it does void your warranty, but all you have to do is take the interior cover off the door, follow a wire down to the trigger switch and disconnect it. That being said, the gauge of this "safe" made me uncomfortable and I now only use it to secure ammo. My guns are now locked in a heavy duty 875 pound Liberty Safe.

My rifle which is bolt action is stored in a locked box, and within it I removed the bolt, now unless you've had any experience on that specific rifle, it's very tricky to put the bolt back in, so I think I'm good there :D

Thank you Rod. Keep up the good work! Any updates with the petitions?

Great tips man, thanks!

As a locksmith I would hardly call a Costco locking box a safe. I have open many and it usually takes a few minutes with a 12-inch pry bar. Maybe that's why they are called a "Fire safe" safe from a fire but not safe from burglary.

Problem with those costco safes in this video is the lock actuator are easily fooled into opening with a speaker magnet in a sock. About 3 seconds and your open.

most firearms owners can't really afford the 3-5000$ for a "gun safe". most of the cheap safes are just that cheap, tin. have the space required to hold a 1/2-1ton steel block. as far as the law is concerned , a room with restricted access which means one ent/exit with lock is considered safe storage. storage with electronic locks can be hacked easy enough. tumbler/dial locking systems less so.

I just want the cheapest option that won't get me thrown in jail 😒

Answered my question thanks

Great topic. However, it is not a fireproof safe. It is fire rated, which is a HUGE difference. You also have to check the temperature rating. Some FIRE safes are rated only 0.5 hours at a very low temperature. Whereas high quality safes will be much higher temperature rated AND for more than an hour. I have seen them rated up to 2 hours, if my memory serves me correct.

Hey Rod, just a follow up to my previous post regarding reclassification of firearms like the sig . Well don't look now but here we go, the sig is now prohibited! So it begins, we now have 1000 to1800 new criminals thanks to this unjust change. Remember that call to action that you said was coming.....is that time now? We need to organize, we need to educate not just the government but the public as well. We as firearms owners need to lobby like never before or else we will see ours rights continue to erode. Time to be an activist whether we like it or not.

So i guess it is okay to use costco small safe .. they weight about 50 or 60 pounds,., they offer fire resist up to 90 minutes which is better than some gunsafes.. and they can be bolted on the wall. They seem more sturdy than gun cabinet.. using those small safe will allow to store handguns without trigger lock.. but in case we doubt, adding a trigger lock to each gun will make everything 100% legal.

Any thoughts on gun rooms??

My 2 yen.... As a firefighter....secure your ammo in a metal container Like an....ammo box? I'm not asking for much....a bullet cooking off out side a firearm doesn't need a lot to stop it But...the number of times I've put out a vehicle fire only to find that the owner forgot to mention the 100 rounds of .308 in the back of the truck...when a round or two go pop beside your head Not nice pouring the piss out of my boots...

hey rod took the cfsc and rcfsc with you great teacher loved it got it about a year ago at poco military and I'm 12 guns in so far Lol. had a question I asked the cfc if I can store ammo in the safe but it has to be in a locked box in the locked safe. is that right I was quite confused and sometimes I hear the cfc can be a little dull.

For me the problem with drilling holes into the floor and into the wall is I'm a person who lives in a basement apartment the owner of the house would not appreciate me drilling holes in the floor or the wall to share my safe unfortunately so drilling holes to secure the safe to the floor Etc the house in a lot of cases is not an option because you do not own the house in this case for me

I'm buying an actual safe after watching this

I go above and beyond. All of my firearms have either trigger locks or cable locks and all are locked in a gun cabinet in a locked room/vault with concrete walls on three sides and a heavy reinforced wall and oak door on the remaining side. All ammo is locked in a separate cabinet in the same room. When transporting, all non-restricted have a cable lock and locked in steel transport box. Restricted Long guns are cable locked, then locked in a specific transport case and locked in the steel transport box. Pistols are cable locked, locked in a specific case and then locked in a separate (from the long guns) steel transport box. Ammo for the pistol is locked in the steel transport box for pistols. Other ammo such as shot gun ammo is locked in a separate locked box. It may seem like a lot to get ready to go to the range. However, I don't want any drama doing so. No one can accuse me of cutting corners and being unsafe. I give the criminals nothing. I also give the law enforcement nothing. Great videos. Keep up the good work.

What is the second channel?

Hey Rod any input on the 'legal' transport of ammunition? Seems like an easy subject to find info on but in fact there is little or no mention of the ammunition transport part of your trip to the range. So off to the range with my SR9 all locked up and unloaded and case locked etc. ……what about the ammo?

Sentry safe its not a safe at all , it's just a metal box , once i lost my keyes and i have to remove important papers asap , it took 20 second to open with 2' prybar and sledge hummer . And my expirience with safes was ZERO .

So we can have firearms in Canada however they must be stored in a way that makes it impossible to defend yourself … We need serious gun reforms like the castle doctrine.

A bit fuzzy logic at the conclusion of the video. Previous non-restricted firearm storage videos instructed that a secure locking device and under the bed is okay. Is this video now suggesting that even these non-restricted ones go into a safe? Or is a locked cabinet or room, still okay? Granted, restricted firearms should go into a safe. Good policy. But someone please confirm the answer to my question regarding non-restricted firearms.

What about these nightstand handgun safe that has an electronic lock? They only fit a handgun and are screwed to the side of the nightstand. Thank you for the instructions!!!!

You would love the overkill I did with my firearms, I built a 5ft by 5ft by 8ft fire resistant vault in my basement against a 9 ft concrete wall 1 layer of fg drywall 1 layer of concrete board 3 5/8 steel stud with fire proof insulation then concrete board again and 2 layers of fg drywall. access is a 90 min. steel door with 3 locks BUT this door is hidden and I have a dummy door that is just for show, the whole thing is then covered with Hardi plank siding. Inside I use a safe I bought at Costco ( supposed to hold 14 guns but I think they lied) I keep my handguns inside this safe, but they have trigger locks and inside a separate Sentry fire proof safe. My ammo is kept in the vault but locked up in bolted lock-boxes. PS my wife just rolls her eyes at all this LOL

Why do they have gun cabinets for sale if they're not acceptable?

Can you have an old-school glass and wood gun case still?

Rubbermaid small action packers are tough, portable, and take a padlock on either side to make your ammo pretty hard to get at.

A lot of the surplus ammo crates are hinged and some even have latches with holes for a lock!..........If you were of the mindset to lock your ammo. just sayin

O_O this legal stuff really is silly, it seems like it'd be easier to break in and destroy the hard copies of the law rather than comply.

the letter of the law is always different from the law in action

What about my stack-on "cabinet" that is bolted to cement floor and wall?

Mens Rea - Intent

Is there a way to safely store a .22 rifle without spending more than the rifle is worth? Seems kinda dumb to me otherwise

I have recently done the cfsc and I appreciate the information! One thing is even the "safes" you show as safes can be cut open by a cheap angle grinder in literally a few seconds. I would support if the local police departments allowed me to rent a locker for a monthly fee to store my guns a with them.

What about reloading components?

But I thought safe storage is a strict liability offense, ie no mens rea is required for you to be convicted?

Are you going to talk about High River and what the RCMP deemed "unsecure"?

What are your thoughts on the Gunvault SpeedVault SV500? It can be mounted to your wall beside your bed? Anyone? STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS "a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked" laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/page-3.html#h-4

hey man ive got a locker housing unlocked unrestricted guns plus all my ammo is that legal

Mens rea.

What is that scoped rifle next to the CZ?

14 gun safe at Costco today for $200. Going back there soon...

Its funny the add youtube put at the beginning of your video was a Liberal advertisement lol

I keep my guns loaded and unsecured for easy access if someone was to break into my house

gun lows suck ass in Canada

When it comes to the law, it has to do with what the court defines as the minimum requirement. The language is very specific. A safe is not a vault. A container, safe, vault can all be defeated with tool and time. There is no established standard on locking type/metal composition/thickness, etc. Your definition of a Safe is not outlined in precedent. Blacks Law and the dictionary defines it as a metal container with a locking device to secure valuables. That could be anything. The law is ambiguous and your opinion on the minimum container that could be classified as "a safe" is far beyond the definition. Do you want to test this in court with you standing in front of a judge? No, of course not and so your advice to exceed the standard is the right call. But if your trying to tell people what a "safe" is, you need to point these things out.

The funny thing is the police evidence vaults in Saskatoon were broken into once in the 90s. I know one of the guys later convicted of the burglary. Tons of criminal cases were tossed out as a result of the burglary i heard. So if the police cant stop a determined thief then how can they prosecute anyone that at least tries to lock up their guns. And yes i did see the evidence pics of the police vaults cut open. The burglars used cutting torches and cut their way through the doors. There was 2 walk in vaults if i recall correctly. Sure shines a light on the police in my opinion. They sure have double standards for sure. Oh and the kicker is... The vaults were in the Saskatoon Courthouse. So the burglars actually broke into a main law enforcement building and robbed the criminal justice system.

I dont agree with your assertion of exceeding the law, such as locking ammo. Either you comply with the law or you don't, "exceeding" the law is a curious concept to me. Also, something is either a cabinet/box or a safe. Lag bolting it to the floor/wall does not in any way change the legal characteristics of it. Besides those points, I appreciate this and all your videos. Keep em coming. Thanks.

No wonder america makes jokes of us. We have have clowns running our gun laws.

Mens rea.