Clutch Dog Shifter System Overview & How to fix motor jumping out of gear.

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@chriseisele9969 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike I love how you show all steps of what to do Chris from OHIO

@curtisballer688 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos man do I wish you did larger HP vintage motors 😉 I learn so much from this channel! Thx again for taking your time T-Mike!!

@chriseisele9969 2 жыл бұрын

T Mike. Thank for your teaching. I total honestly I've never worked on an outboard motor. But after watching your and others videos I fell i could do ok. Thanks to you I've got an appreciation for the vintage outboards Chris from OHIO

@TimsWorkshopTJY 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, Another good video on the clutch dogs.

@AlexNorway80 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, did my shifter today, and now it runs again without "jumping" 👍👏

@TheFalconJetDriver 6 ай бұрын

Justin Wilson would be proud of you! As kid on my 1963 Evinrude 10 hp the forward gear and the clutch dog were rounded over. I milled them using a Bridge Port mill back into the original shape and it worked. I was too cheap to spend money on an outboard motor when my priority was on leaning to fly airplanes. 😁🛫 what a great series of videos! Outstanding!

@richardgodwin3671 4 ай бұрын

Great video step by step, I might try this on my motor now that I know the steps

@shaneodom6574 10 ай бұрын

Loved your video ! Would like to more from you as I learn how to work on these outboards. Thank you.

@davemilster 10 ай бұрын

Great video Mike

@alcheckalski9716 Жыл бұрын

At 4:50 you mention that the clutch dog slides into the gear and then spins the gear. I always thought that both forward and reverse gears are always spinning. Depending on which way the clutch dog is positioned determines which way the shaft will spin. The gear spins the clutch dog which spins the shaft. a very thorough video

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

You are correct.

@kentyler966 2 жыл бұрын

Sure looks easy when you know what your doing.

@garymobley5052 Жыл бұрын

I recently started watching your videos your a great teacher keep it up I noticed that since you didn't have the correct gear you only changed the shift dog my question is couldn't you put the reverse gear and put the forward gear in it's place since it's not used as much ?

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Yes. You are correct

@Sonickart 9 ай бұрын

i'm wondering, do you really need to remove the whole lower unit to access the clutch dog? in theory... could you not just remove that bottom portion with the lower unit on the motor, just with the whole motor flipped upside down? the only thing being the shift rod having to be moved out of the way enough... which that i don't know if it'd be possible

@Gareth96v1 Жыл бұрын

Wish they made them reversible.. don't need as much load on reverse.. My 1978 35HP forward is slipping due to a worn dog and gear

@lasbenols 2 жыл бұрын

To disconnect the shift linkage on a 25 hp Johnson do you just have to loosen both of the bolts? Need your expertise please. old Johnson motor owner

@nazmen040 2 жыл бұрын

Great video - - showing the worn part and what to look for during its inspection was key. You made the reassembly of the lower unit into the power head look way too easy. 😀 In your opinion what caused the clutch dog to wear. Was it excess end play of the prop shaft in the lower unit or possibly the operator sliding into forward gear too slowly. Thank you.

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

I believe putting it in gear with too much rpm - not at full idle …

@mrsfireleg 2 жыл бұрын

Is that a Lauson I see in your outside area?

@davidfuechsel4914 Жыл бұрын

very informative T MIke, thanks so much your videos are very clear. I have a new to me 1957 Johnson 18HP and ran it all summer last year without issue until the end of the season, where I noticed that getting the shifter into forward gear was difficult. Am I correct in thinking that too is a clutch dog issue or would gears be involved. I also had noticed some gear oil near the top of the motor and though that was strange. We are about to get into the boating season and would like an idea on what you may think the problem is. thank you for your time

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a clutch dog issue. Oil could be a leaky seal.

@davidfuechsel4914 Жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon thank you TMike, I am hunting down the seals now. Would you happen to have any on your eBay shop? I have the original catalog and searched for them on your site but nothing popped up. Thanks agaon

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

@@davidfuechsel4914 not selling seals yet - I do offer a mail in repair service.

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

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@randycape3146 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your videos! I'm working on a 15hp johnson (1976). Should there be any resistance in lower unit when in gear? With the lower off the motor I can feel every gear tooth engaging as I spin the prop and it feels tight. I've replaced prop shaft bearings and all gears (used gears but appear in great shape). It feels to me like maybe the pinion gear is "too" engaged with the forward and revese gears. I don't have anything to compare to so I don't know if this is normal. I'm messing with the lower because I couldn't get above 4500 rpm with it attached to the upper and got 6500 rpm with it off.

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Don’t really understand your question ? Are you saying you’ve lost speed ?

@kevinblanchard611 Жыл бұрын

Those older lower units are so much easier to work on! Why did they change???

@lewisbrooks9760 2 ай бұрын

Great instructions T-Mike. Is this the same system for a '68 Evinrude 18hp Fastwin? And do you carry clutch and forward gear for same motor?

@michaeljsimon 2 ай бұрын

Yes

@isaiasrodriguez6270 2 жыл бұрын

Hello , I was wondering if this is the same procedure for a Johnson sea horse 40hp ? Thank you

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

Yea

@tonywright510 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering if you could turn the clutch dog around and would that work if one's bad put the war outside on the reverse and the good side back on forward?

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Most times that works.

@joeycollins6968 2 ай бұрын

Can I flip the clutch dog so the wore side is to the reverse?

@michaeljsimon 2 ай бұрын

Yes

@randy1ization 3 ай бұрын

could u just flip the clutch dog around so the worn part is facing reverse gear and use it like that for a while?

@michaeljsimon 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@djcue7608 9 ай бұрын

Does lower unit have to be removed to replace gears

@michaeljsimon 9 ай бұрын

Yes. I do

@bain19 10 ай бұрын

if your clutch dog is worn out but the gear is alright, could you not just flip(rotate it 180 degrees) the clutch dog and then reinstall it ? when you flip it, your using the clutch dog teeth gears that have never been engaged before.

@michaeljsimon 10 ай бұрын

Yes on some motors.

@chriseisele9969 2 жыл бұрын

Question if you didn't have extra dog clutch could you reverse it because it only kicked out at high rpms

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. Did not put that in my video for reasons of quality of my work but you sure can. Good thinking.

@chriseisele9969 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon was thinking if in a pinch plus im sure the damaged side would eventually damage reverse gear

@lasbenols 2 жыл бұрын

I did that on my Johnson 25hp just like new Thanks to TMike for the videofixing that old motor was easy seeing his video.Now I'm going fishing every weekend!!!!!!!!?

@lasbenols 2 жыл бұрын

@@chriseisele9969 I. Don't think it would damage it because you don't use reverse that often or at high speed so you should be good I turned mine around and it works great.

@christsaparis6904 Жыл бұрын

I have a 61 johnson 18 horse, it seems to be the opposite for me. When I am driving slow it jumos out of gear, but when fast its fine. Any ideas?

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Try adjusting the shifter lever.

@christsaparis6904 Жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon ok, will do. it is connected with shift and steering cables, do you think the cables could be worn? thanks for the replies, love the videos, you remind me of my grandpa, lol!

@steveott1884 2 жыл бұрын

The 10hp and the 7.5hp are different lower units in most years Up to 1957 the 10hp and 18hp LU's were 5 bolt (like the red one you showed) and from 1958 on the 7.5 and 10 were 4 bolt.

@thepickn Жыл бұрын

Can you order new clutch cradle and gear.

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Sure

@am932 3 ай бұрын

Will flipping the shift dog work for a while longer ?

@michaeljsimon 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@am932 3 ай бұрын

I flipped it, lets see how much longer it lasts. Btw is the shift linkage supposed to be straight? The linkage in my outboard has a bent. Im thinking it contributed to the gear not fully engaging. Also looking at the adjustment on top area.

@michaeljsimon 3 ай бұрын

@@am932 it’s bent.

@samtate1260 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t get your eBay store I put in T Mikes vintage Outbord motor parts I get mr T tee shirts everything but your store

@dttprice 2 жыл бұрын

Here is a link to his eBay store: www.ebay.com/str/simtechfarms

@regio81 2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever repaired it by grinding? Those gears are hard to find.

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

I have not.

@cgodfrey19 2 жыл бұрын

They're not hard to find, just painfully expensive. I've acquired running motors for a fraction of the cost of some new gearcase components.

@regio81 2 жыл бұрын

@@cgodfrey19 yes I know 300 and up a gear, the clutch dog is still available and not very expensive.

@Dustiehippo 2 жыл бұрын

What does something like this cost to have done thanks?

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

$200

@Dustiehippo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks I just ordered a clutch dog from you on eBay, I may call a few local shops but I’ll probably do it myself if I can find the time! Wish me luck!

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dustiehippo good luck

@Dustiehippo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks just received the dog clutch from you looks like it’s in good shape! Do you know if I can change the dog and forward gear with the motor upside down without removing the lower unit? Thanks