Okok

Wow that summed it up

Yea true af

Mirrors the difference between mixed martial arts, where everything seem to evolve about how to fight, versus traditional martial arts, which primarily focus on character development.

@@Daniel_Fo77 Yeah. If there is ONE criticism I have with traditional martial arts, is its "kata" component. Why do you need to learn TEN sets of katas in order to be seen as developing some sort of mastery, when all you need are drills and pressure testing to determine the same thing? Oh, well...

@@dswynne :Kata/Poomse is heavily misunderstood. There are very useful on many levels. The only problem, other than the lack of understanding, is how many ther are in most styles. I am currently trying to get ours reduced by half in my organization.

The problem was Robby was never truly taught the Miyagi Do philosophy in its purest form because Daniel had a vengeful spirit himself. It's a classic case of the blind leading the blind. All the talk about CK students are inherently bad along with Daniel's initial motives of opening the dojo to get back at Cobra Kai influenced his students to hate CK as well. Miyagi would never have approved of Daniel's actions.

@@drestathagangsta8880 Daniel learned this from Cobra Kai first

@@NB-hb3uj Yes, but he looked up to his sensei and mentor Miyagi and took everything he said as law over anything else. And the bottom line is Miyagi didn't initially train Daniel with the motive to shut down John Kreese and the Cobra Kai dojo in the first KK. Miyagi didn't even want to originally train Daniel to fight Mike Barnes after Barnes kept baiting Daniel to do so. Daniel would have disappointed Miyagi greatly.

@@drestathagangsta8880 These are movies or shows nobody is perfect i believe if you really love like Miagi did with Daniel like a son he probably would have supported him. Like giving him a car and letting him be in his life.

@@drestathagangsta8880 I also believe in reality we all have sin again no body is perfect

Perfect

More like Johnny is the hero of cobra Kai and Daniel is the antagonist

Pokémon champion Carson that is also true but the antagonist of a show isn’t a necessarily “evil” or a “villain” or a “bad person”

Yes,they are complex

Both are flawed, but then again who is perfect?

Johnny blames Daniel for "stealing" Ali yet he fails to realize that She didn't really love Daniel either because She dumped him at the Prom for a UCLA Football Player. Miguel and Robby are repeating this over Sam yet when She gets to College She would dump both of them for a Frat Boy. These Guys need to become Friends and realize that fighting over these Bitches wasn't worth it. There are Women that are way better than Ali and Sam.

@@risinghawk4935 Very much so

Same shit with Robbie and Miguel. Lesson to be learned to all guys, stop getting into fights over girls or fights they instigate

Either mistreatment myagi got her to do chores and told her to lie to daniel larusso so they could both get her off their back or perhaps johnny and his cobra 🐍 kai karate group got together with allison and busted up danny's car 🚗 with baseball bats Another possibility is that she left danny larusso most likely for that guy who arrived shortly after danny and Allisons first date and tried to bribe her in the flashy car 🚘 - pretty sure that his name was , Eddie

Hypergamy at its finest.

Very true

But then again, Dimitri started humiliating Hawk during the party. And then his behind the other Miyagi-Do students

Hawk would have eaten him alive if he didn't kick everyone's ass along the way

@@omeg999 Verbal roasting and attempted murder aren't exactly comparable ya know?

what you failed to realize is dimitri is the one who influenced the beef between himself and hawk he talked to much he was wrong for bringing out the bed wetting thing at one point it seemed as though hawk wanted to talk to him and settle their differences at that party but dimitri as usual open his mouth negatively and ruined it how exactly did he embody miyagi do exactly instead of fighting or bullying physically he was a verbal nuisance to everyone

Why would miyagi tell Daniel to go have sex with his wife lmao 😂😂😂😂

@@noonelikesyou1480 cuz sex good

@@benjaminlrd9599 yes it is. And if he ever did tell Daniel to have sex with her I think he would say it like this: Daniel san. Focus on family not cobra kai. Go relax. Have sex with pretty wife

No one likes you lol how would you know it’s good? Hahaha

That is a main issue I have seen Daniel is taking everyone without questioning motive or reasons. Robby and hawk both have anger issues before karate ever began. If Miyagi was teaching them yes, he would teach them how to channel the anger first. And probably decide one or both don't need a deadly weapon on top of their anger. Its similar to giving them a loaded gun, to fight high school bullies. Miyagi would have seen that, probably declining to teach Robby, and hawk if he had came there. Daniel in the original was angry at times, but righteous anger 5 against 1 fights there was no way to win, and those kids had no intention of laying off him..he often didn't help himself like the bathroom scene with the water pipe,funny hells yeah, smart uh no...not knowing u would have the gang looking for u and payback. He was a kid or played as one lol, and teens think with emotion, not logic often. Hell many adults today still do. Why Miyagi then later Daniel taught karate comes from the mind and heart never the gut. We often associate emotion with the heart, logic with the mind. But doing things in a gut impulse rarely works out well, and usually regretted. Its where we feel emotions truly, get butterflies when anxious ,or nausea, when sad feel like kicked in the gut and so forth. Revenge also comes from there,.when often letting it go is wisest,most logical we still feel the revenge need, and the push to do it be tough, show them, be a man ( or woman) even when logic if we stopped and thought about it would say what u said Mr. Miyagi would say exactly. Why worry about teen rival not hurting you ? You're a success proved yourself let it go. Daniel sure would not be losing his wife, his lifestyle, kids seriously injured over anger, as the anger built between the two dojos,various fights,friendships and relationships within the kids. Daniel would have watched sam closer not begged her to be his friend, but let her know he was instead her parent. Every mom knows they did well if their teen daughter esp says I hate you u ruined my life! They know they don't run the house. Ruined teenage life doesn't come without punishments that last to leave the needed impression..i know long winded but look at the facts in 2 seasons : sam was involved with a hit and run, mom took her phone and internet etc a day tops, AFTER those were taken, she ran to the beach , instead of straight home. Very next scene sam is on her phone. Needed it taken way longer than a day or so. Mom then is a snob says she knows what its like to be in an unpopular clique and be called a nerd. Aisha and sam go way back, she meets popular mega bitch Yasmin, and treats aisha like crap, u don't sit with others with an im sorry smile.and shrug, when they hurt and old, and dear friend that has a hard time fitting in. Next she still stands by her snob friend as she makes a photo of aisha eating adding pig affects and sending to everyone in the school..sam.still gives that sorry smile and i didn’t do it just hanging with those that did look. She should have said not my kind of friends unless they were ? Daniel was chapeeoning, yet in the gym no one asked why all were laughing at a text all got at once u dont miss that daniel wasn't technology dead. You hear 100 or more phones ping,laughter, looking at aisha, then she bolts ? Did they die lol. Camera not even show their reaction. Ok skip to sam back and forth on miguel ashamed of letting her dad meet him cause of his dojo, that's pretty nasty too. Dad would have gotten over it once he met miguel, maybe even realized all ck not bad people even, his teen belief crushed lol. Go forward sam is drinking twice,she is 16 just got her license and is drinking ? Cause for heart attack do they take her license beyond the last.day at school daniel drove her ? I have to honestly doubt it with their record with her. She needs some guidance before tragedy occurs not a half day phone taken or kne.day license taken. She is heading for serious problems if they don't get their self centered needs out and kids in. I know they work ,they can also hire temporary help. If he is going to Okinawa for unknown amount of time he further abandons his responsibility to them. Sam is being the new ali noticeably flipping between two guys, mind gaming. One video before this they said Daniel seen Robby as the son he never had hmm I could swore he had a son Anthony that he doesn't spend the time with he does with sam at all..they both said he was a mistake from karate moves ten years prior how does anyone knows they are unwanted, and not fit in act. Imagine what Miyagi would say about both kids. They are not bad kids, just need their parents in their life as parents, not friends. He is unmotivated, and seems lazy wth daniel sam is grown mostly, she needs guidance yes, Anthony is ten he needs time spent with him. After sam has non approved pool party her mom pulls Daniel away from.trying to assert authority. She should suffer some embarrassment she had an unauthorized party that later Daniel is cleaning up the mess? Sam had the party she needs to clean up not dad..as part punishment and learning consequences. The only stuff Anthony did as a minor part was when daniel did assert authority he just orders another! He would not get that i would break it, sell it, or throw in the pool. Just goes around orders whatever he wishes at any price really at ten? Then when at the beach club I guess it was his dad says get off that let's go get a drink, he replies nah not worth it. Then yells a minute later demanding his soda like dad is his waiter. I have a temper Daniel claims to he would get the soda right over the head. They worry they may become entitled Encino kids, may become ? Think been there. Mix in letting Robby a relatively unknown kid to them move in, they habe a daughter same age, no ground rules set.sje walks in his bedroom, doesnt even knock ,grandma came in busted up making out asking for problems. And no one even notices the attraction that was clearly obvious, even in a minute glance to miguel. So he left upset. maybe its me, Not used to these new crappy parenting styles, kidsmrun the house and parents, meals are requested, as per kids likes,little rules,no consequences. let them treat others like crap to be popular etc. Nope not for me. I raised twins boy/girl now 27 lived on own a long time. No grandkids still,.neither ever had a run In with the law, had jobs at 15, neither ever fired , no drugs in 2020.u call.that a win. They are not perfect by far, nor am I. They had normal kid issues like everyone. They both know one ok two things 1. Best tell me, ( as kids) cause if I find out some other way any hope of sympathy is gone cause I am pizzed lol. And we still have very open relationships. 2. If u are stupid enough to get a dui don't even assume to call me for bail. I think sitting there bored, half terrified gives u plenty of time to decide where u went wrong lol. Lessons learned best are often learned the hard way. I am not mean nor cold,or uncaring..i am like johnny in the sense.of how he sees todays kids soft and crybaby, overprotected,.and coddled that gets you no where in the world. One last thing about moving robby in he was stabbing at johnny he should have seen where and who his dad was as daniel didn't know then. If mom split dad needed to step in, or give permission. In turn when sam was at johnnys after the party , daniel was furious he didn't call him, but johnny didn't deserve the same respect. Daniel feels he is the Supreme parent too and began to rub me the wrong way. Johnny had problems and wasn't prepared to be a dad early on. Later Robby seen thru moms lies about him when she said he wanted him to live with him. Johnny was trying she filled his head to hate his dad ugh. I hope in season 3 he is with his dad where he should be. It may be the best thing for johnny also to stop drinking when anything goes wrong. Robby needs a.parent he can depend on and johnny can be that parent, not at the start,but now yep. He will have food, shelter, electric and not evicted or moms creeps all the time. Be rough work out the past both have hot tempers. Over time they will bond, its never too late to have some sort of relationship. Being responsible for anyone but himself will help johnny a lot. He can also change how he was treated, into how he wanted to be treated by step dad.

"First of all... Its a Dell"

Yeah, poor guy is a caveman that doesn’t even know what a computer is which is quite sad and frickin hilarious to watch.

I remember when Johnny looked up hot babes😉

Put one of those hashbrowns on there! AND SEND IT TO THE INTERNET! 😂

@@PotatoChicken-gg1ju 😂😂😂

denis mourot bruh that’s cringe

@@francoperez2868 well maybe not a new dojo, but they will merge the two philosophies at the very least.

IMO. I actually hope that Johnny brings Mr. Miyagi up again in Cobra Kai. I wouldn’t mind knowing what Johnny thought of him, even though they never really spoke to each other. I mean, he did save Johnny from getting choked out.

That sounds cringe af😂😂

i actaully hope one day the two martial arts can be blended together as one. yin and yang

Robin Lee or more like perfectly directed force and that not everyone is an enemy

Naw. Miguel was a meek and good kid and cobra Kai turned him into an Aggro billy. Same thing with Hawk who turned on his own best friend and bullied him for simply being himself. His students fought dirty in the tournament

@@youtubecommenter37 that was s1. In s2 Johnny tries to reshape them and teach them the difference between no mercy and no honor. That's why Miguel tried ending the fight with Robby, and hawk didn't attack Demetri at first during the offensive stand-up BS Demetri pulled.

@@j-ice5161 Hawk did try to attack him. He was just stopped.

J-ice yeah hawk is a bad example because he’s constantly going against Johnny’s cobra kai, he chose Kreese. But that is the whole point of the season, how Johnny regrets turning miguel into a bully and wants to fix cobra kai before it’s too late

Season 2 was not a Miyagi Do victory. A Miyagi Do victory would be peace between dojos, not people hurt on both sides. Also looking at the numbers Cobra Kai was still way ahead, Eli and Stingray beat multiple people while Aisha remained undefeated

Great analysis. Although I wouldn't call Season 2 a victory for Miyagi Do outside of Sam being the lone exception beating Tory. Robby cheapshotted Miguel after the fact out of pride and anger because he knew Miguel bested him again imo. And then Eli and Stingray beat up countless Miyagi students during the brawl.

@@drestathagangsta8880 Sam didn't exactly get the purest of victories, either. She went to the hospital while Tory went to karate class, and it isn't like Sam didn't play her part in causing the whole situation to begin with. Robby was angry about losing, sure. But he also had a lot of other things going on. His mother, who abandoned him for at least two months, went off to rehab. Less than 24 hours after that, he lost the place he was staying, his mentor, and his dojo because Sam decided to be a drunk idiot. And while he clearly accuses Miguel of taking advantage, I have to wonder if he doesn't suspect deep down that Sam simply cheated on him. We know he's insecure because we saw it with the Medal of Honor situation.

Milla Ray True about Robby as an insecure person. His feud with Miguel is personal because of Johnny and Sam. Johnny, because Robby sees him as paying more attention to Miguel than him. Sam, because Robby is envious of possible lingering feelings between her and Miguel.

@@millaray9912 Robby is one hundred percent finding out the truth whether it be from Daniel, Sam, or someone else that Sam and Miguel's kiss at the party was mutual. Once he finds out Sam still has feelings for Miguel, he will be furious and upset with her. Robby will probably accuse Sam of using him to make Miguel and Tory jealous, although that's not true. Sam had feelings for Robby but they were not as intense as they were for Miguel. There will be a rift between Sam and Robby in Season 3 but they will eventually resolve things as friends. Miguel is Sam's true love and Robby was more of a rebound.

It’s wax on wax off 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

that made my day

**floor gang is shaking**

@@aryanvirdi458 that’s what he said

@@gtm_dev He edited it

Yessss

If one them plays the bigger man and pulled his head out his own ass then it will definitely happen. I bet 50 bucks that Daniel will make peace with the bastard one last time.

Hopefully not - lamest ending imaginable

@@bibihassberg1570 thats just your opinion, so tired of people thinking because they don't like it, it must be trash.

I was looking forward to their Rocky III Rocky Apollo fight they were going to have after hitting the bar. I hope they get back to that place again some day.

i can see the motto now: Join iron eagle karate, be a badass

this is it

Perhaps a mixed philosophy is the only sensible and practical one. Any other philosophy is either too lenient or too extreme.

I would love this, and then have Aisha & Miguel reject Kreese, and Daniel kick out Robby. Aisha, Miguel & Robby join Iron Eagle and you have the whole in house rivalry between Miguel & Robby and Johnny having the inner conflict of choosing between his son and his protege. Aisha vs. Tory vs. Samantha at the all valley fighting for 3 different Dojos would be hype. Then have Kyler join Cobra Kai and Hawk becomes apart of that "cool kid bully" friend group at school. Miguel spends the year helping Iron Eagle train since he is out of action, and him and Robby still have beef through all of it, but then Miguel finds himself secretly rooting for Robby at the All Valley and there are seeds of them mending their relationship. All that's missing is a top male fighter at Miyagi-Do. Theoretically it's Demetri but I think they should bring in somebody new to take that role and stretch out Demetri's learning curve a little longer. Am I getting too ahead of myself? lol

Yes

He's dead.

Remco Schedel-the SKULL oh don’t worry Cobra Kai Will some how Use CGI

Dude the budget isn’t enough

Kyle Stark I agree

Actually when it comes who teaches better it’s Lawrence cobra kai > larusso miyagi do > krees cobra kai > miyagi’s miyagi do I’m Saying that miyagi’s miyagi do is worse at teaching (harder to learn) because Look at Daniel when he was young, the only thing he knew was defense (which it wasnt Even that great) the only reason he beat chozen and won the tournament was because of the plot, and Now Look at robby His ofense is good and gis defense is pretty good, no hate

Kyle Stark larusso karate IS miyagi do, AND his team won so Daniel > Johnny

Phantom :D that fight was a stalemate man easily

@@xxalindasavagexxthefortnit8898 No True because Miyagi is only 1v1 student teaching and is more of a LIFESTYLE teaching not just martial arts. Miyagi teaches no-combat philosophy.

How about neither. Students from either dojo’s would get their asses kicked by students at an mma dojo

@@youtubecommenter37 Depends on the rules of the fight. If they're fighting on MMA rules the MMA student wins, if it's karate ruels (three points and no grappling) the karate guy wins because of experience. On the street? My 75 year old grandma with a shotgun would beat both at the same time.

@@youtubecommenter37 The show and movies are a Karate fantasy. Sure in reality Karate isn't some godsend martial art that will let you beat all your opponents, but it is the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai universe. It's not real.

@@theazureknight9399 had me in the first half ngl

😁Tell that to Tory.

By that logic one can argue that a true Cobra Kai Master will never allow defender to counter and strikes only when he can guarantee victory or sufficent advantage from the first strike.

@@aigryz I don't believe we've seen that level of Cobra Kai master yet. In fact, we've only seen one true Miyagi-Do master so far: Mr Miyagi himself. The ultimate Cobra Kai master would have to be lightning fast, and incredibly deceptive in attack, and defense. An impossible to read/anticipate fighter. He'd have to be like a Karate version of Bruce Lee, Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson combined.

WallKenshiro cobra Kai takes the military KISS “keep it simple stupid” take down an enemy fast and without mercy think of it as karate with no spirituality once so ever makes sense cause cobra kais founder was a soldier in the Vietnam war

The first punch can be the last punch

Or mma /wrestling /Tony Ferguson.

Nick I don’t think this show is ready for cold blooded murder but hawk targeting miyagi do kids would make for an awesome plot

Reptile 25991 how old are you? 12? The karate kid franchise brand has always been family friendly and the show is no different. With school shootings being a serious reality, cobra Kai would get cancelled immediately if they went this direction, not to mention it would drive away the core fanbase

That's tory with a Y

Exactly. Since the first kk you could see Daniel’s ego grow bigger when he started karate. After everything was peaceful, he started another conflict with Johnny in the party which led to his ass being kicked.

Yeah both daniel and johnny are stuck in the past. Johnny not so much in season 2 but season 1 he was very stuck in the past possibly worse than daniel.

He’s not going for them because of Johnny, He’s afraid of people turning into bullies, and he doesn’t agree with strike first, no mercy, strike hard, Miyagi Do is the opposite of cobra kai, And u see Miyagi doing the opposite of what Cobra kai does and he always wins his fights, Point is, it’s not Johnny he’s going for, It’s what cobra kai did to him, did to the students(made them merciless jerks), and Doesn’t want anyone to experience the same thing

When I said It’s opposite it’s because 1.He doesn’t strike first 2.He doesn’t strike hard(doesn’t look hard but he usually wins fights with like 3-4 hits thrown so it’s probably hard) 3.He shows mercy

@@shadowfighter3100 But Daniel didn’t have to attack them afterwards. The waters were calm and nothing was happening. He could have still learned karate but he decided to start another conflict for zero to no reason at all.

Then he'll need another car mod scene

I like the eagle idea,it would be a way to take the good cobra kai aspects and his own philosophy.

I've heard Iron eagle karate been mentioned a lot. Where does the idea come from?

@@dave4657 It's Johnnys favorite movie. Plus think about it as an Easter egg, the eagle eats the snake. Iron is strong and dominate like cobra kai while the eagle is graceful like miyagi do which can soar above both dojos philosophys by mixing them together.

@@j-ice5161 to be honest that dodge challenger looked noice

I politely disagree. Different students need different teachers. Demetri and Chris are examples that certain styles aren't always for everyone. It's easy to dismiss a whiner like Demetri, but the best teachers will try to get on their student's level. The way I see it: Johnny is the best sensei for students _looking_ for the strength and power to fight back, but Daniel is better at teaching students that are lost and want to find direction and guidance.

Well considering Carmen said Miguel was a sweet boy before Johnny influenced him i would have to disagree with you. Now try to imagine if Johnny got a student who was a drop out that hangs out with criminals who learned martial arts for the wrong reason i highly doubt Johnny would have been able to stop him from helping criminals, much less get him to think about his future

Robert C., I totally agree, Daniel is a complete failure, Johnny atleast caught up to his sensei somewhat whereas Daniel is no where near miyagi

@TheCeilingFanCollectorHD Most people don't realize their mistakes that way. Johnny had to see the pitfalls of the philosophy in action before he could know he needed to make changes. Even then, Kreese was able to get in the kids' heads because Johnny is still uncertain about what he's trying to teach. But remember that Johnny has been teaching karate for less than a year. Everyone makes mistakes while trying to learn a new job.

@Leon Russell which actually upsets me! Miyagi students won all of the brawl scenes (two big ones are the Mall and School). I get it Sam is an experienced practitioner while Robby is a prodigy, but practically getting ganged up with other martial artists 2 vs 5 (?) even with less skills does not make the number advantage any less dangerous. ALSO Dimitri vs Hawk?! wtf cant believe a whiny germaphobe with weeks worth of experience won against a bully with months of practical experience.

lol calm down this is not wwe dude

I like how in season 1 when Johnny and Daniel are test driving the car. They go to Daniels house and you can hear Johnny make a reference to the rocky Apollo private fight. Like he wanted to do a “friendly” match to see who would win. I hope we get to see that one day. But yeah that would be cool to see Daniel cornered by three and Johnny shows up to back him.

@@strongking2809 LOL

Daniel, Johnny and Chozen are team of miyagi do versus John kreese, Terry sliver and mike Barnes are team of cobra kai

“Asian muscle” HAHAHAHAHA. Science fiction

Asthma is for pussies!

That's true ngl

In tournaments defense wins, in the street defense can only get you so far if you don’t lean offense.

How I met your mother 😂

I think maybe Robby did what he did because he wanted to end the fight. He wanted to be the victor

Nice breakdown

@@K1ng1995 Of course he wanted to be the victor, especially because he felt Miguel stole his dad, he felt justified in the karma turn about from when Miguel pulled his injured arm during the tournament when Robby offered to help him up, and kissing his girlfriend when she was drunk. Now if you mean end it by knocking Miguel over the balcony i don't think Robby did that on purpose

FullMetalJedi what I mean was he didn’t want Miguel to show honour because Robby didn’t want to be in the wrong he knew that if Miguel showed honour and stopped fighting then he won and if Robby continues trying to fight then he looks like the asshole

@@K1ng1995 You have to remember Robby wasn't clear headed at that point. So it went way beyond being about just winning. When Miguel said "Like that move, i learned it from you dad" it fed the darker impulses in Robby. When you use psychological warfare like that it shouldn't be a surprise when the target to becomes mentally unstable

They need to meet in the middle, and I believe it will come to that eventually as the show progresses. Johnny and Daniel showed signs of getting along, until something arose stopping it, then kreese. Johnny seen all he needed of kreese to never return to him, or I believe so. Never know show twists and turns. Johnny needs Robby as much as Robby needs him. He seen past his moms lies, then abandonment. When she said he wanted him to come live with him, he was going to see if it was workable, sadly he seen johnny and miguel and got jealous and left. He loves Robby or wouldn't try to protect him, even say he was sorry. He just was ruined by kreese who was a dad to him, abused by his step dad,mom died and natural father unsaid. He gotnwith that nasty woman, got her pregnant, he was just too deep in his issues to be the father he wanted to be. He is ready now. It will help him thru his demons of kreese, and sid being the father he wanted instead of like them. He learned so much so far. I think having robby live with him will also make him stop drinking to solve his problems also. I hope he and Carmen get back together he seemed to really like her, and she liked him. He needs a good woman not trash to help him in dark times. Not to be used, hurt or abused anymore. I imo think once miguel is back where he can speak and stuff,he will get his mom back with him. In the storage room when she was dating the Aussie still, miguel had great concern if she was happy, so no doubt he seen her happy with Johnny while they were dating. Grandma has always been for johnny so she will help. And miguel never had a male influence he needs at his age.. so imagine it may, just may end up johnny,Carmen, Robby and miguel living together that will make for interest, with the two dojos sadly now only 1 as kreese took ck. One thing most are overlooking beyond kreese being a compulsive liar and manipulator ( like waiting til johhny got ck back in tournaments before he resurfaced so no one knew he was around or even alive) Kreese is living in some sort of halfway house or something 🤔 has mental problems,.kids caught him lying about where he was enlisted. How does one pay all the back bills, and have credit and money needed to buy a dojo ? If henis on va pay or soc security that's not enough to buy a pair of shoes. Why he is living where he can afford the rent not a house or an apartment. So one person comes to mind paying the bills....but at what cost, and to whom now ? I am.still certain tory is silvers daughter born outside of marriage like.robby has moms name at birth, so we won't know til they want us to. Could be nutcase fighter in kk 3 but he didn't have money like silver. Tory said mom worked fed her and her brother,never mentioned a dad or if knew who he is. She may or may not know. And Silver is jjst the type of scum to deny paternity, buy way out of tests and not pay child support. Hurry season 3 we will die of curiosity waiting lol. And guessed aliens 👽 next haha. They run their series around the national channels as they are then in reruns so not compete against them for air time. People turn to straming when they go on hiatus..they air channels will always draw more as they are free and many cannot afford,or are happy with just a few channels, they pull ratings away from streaming..so that being basic fact they start new shows in late sept. Ratings sweeps and end in May for rating sweeps so ya all nearly summer 2021 probably before we have answers uhh. Need a new binge show,nothing toos.cobra kai tho lol I can live for stablers return to svu til then to satisfy me just enuf roflmoa

nah I’m with Miguel on this one. He may have gotten drunk and fucked up on the beach, and honestly it was understandable. Robby was definitely moving in on Sam. but besides that, he didn’t really do shit to Robby. Unless I’m forgetting something, I don’t know. He even returned the medal, which Robby then hid. In the end, he was the one that showed mercy. Robby was in the wrong imo

Bruton Gaster To be fair looking in Robby’s perspective he was kind of jealous on Miguel for spending more time with his dad (just when he decided to let go of his anger and visit him the day Johnny gave his old gi to Miguel), was just being friendly with Sam after realising he had a boyfriend and actually gave her a useful advise (cause she is the daughter of his sensei) and in the tournament when offered his hand to Miguel he injured him in a low move. Basically Miguel’s mistakes in S1 ending made Robby believed Miguel was just an aggressive thug and when the moment came he made the same thing to Miguel (showing Mercy or Respect) only this time Robby’s mistake resulted in tragedy...

@@creedbratton7237 @Bruton Gaster Miguel completely lost his way through the teaching methods of Cobra Kai it turned him into an angry and very arrogant individual, Robby obviously liked Sam but he never crossed any line plus he was respective at first she had a boyfriend until the beach incident, Miguel jumped to conclusions and pushed Robby and resulted in hurting Sam in the process. In the karate tournament Migel acted dishonourable in the fight targeting Robby's dislocated shoulder multiple times including pulling his arm out of its socket after Robby had downed him. Robby isn't all good like I'm not saying he is, he's the son of Johnny aha but he's learnt the ways of Miyagi-Do and found balance, the show blurs the lines of right and wrong perfectly and it shows how these 2 boys have been impacted by Johnny and Daniels rivalry. Robby acts the way he does over the medal but hey can you blame him? I know season 2 tries it's best to paint Miguel in a new light and it does work but these 2 guys are already at odds and with Robby trying to break up the fight in the school Miguel is the one who engages and attacks first, then he proceeds to mock Robby about Sam all this build up caused Robby to get even with Miguel which is understandable given the circumstances. All I'm saying is that Miguel's actions wether you like it or not, even if they are influenced by the Cobra Kai methods are still down to him. Think about it, a guy saying your girlfriend loves him instead of you, after cheating you in a tournament, making passes at your girlfriend, plus being involved with your father in a stronger bond and on top of that starting a fight with you and telling you your girlfriend loves you then pinning you down about to re-injure your shoulder, then suddenly decides to ease off on you, how insulting is that?!?! Of course Robby is going to lash out aha

Damn straight all the way. He was acting the same way as his teacher did in the movies. Jealousy and no mercy crap is not a good combo it can screw any good relationship with anyone outside of the cobra Kai unless of course is someone from cobra Kai then it would be fine.

Im with Miguel on this one. Robby is a douche

Johnny and Daniel to need to create a hybrid dojo of cobra Kai and Miyagi do how to fight offensively but still show mercy and fight with balance and peaceful intent I hope that happens in season 3

Revenge of the nerd. Not only is your piece extremely well written, your interpretation and understanding of the opposing philosophies is very profound. Outstanding. 👋👋👋👍🙏

I agree! I think by Miyagi-do helping Miguel recover physically and mentally, both Johnny and Daniel will realize that merging both dojos is the best thing to do. Perfect balance.

That’s incoherent

The whole series is becoming like the Star Wars version honestly but love it

I think you missed a yin yang interpretation. I don't believe it is a matter of one philosophy being better or worse than the other. I see them more like Yin and Yang. And like yin and yang energies it isn't a question of which is better so much as which does the situation call for. . Being aggressive and forceful is often times necessary in life and not just in a physical fight. Cobra Kai is not wrong to teach kids to be tough and impose their will upon their circumstances as much as possible ( and within reason). But at other times the best course of action would be a more passive approach seeking peaceful resolution that allows all parties to walk away content if possible. . So yeah, I have to object to the premise of your question - at least regarding the underlying philosophies. They are two sides of the same coin. But if you just want to talk about the dojos themselves then I'd agree Miyagi do is better...but not because the philosophy there is better.

The potential Miyagi-Do/Cobra Kai blended dojo should be called Cobra Koi.

but where do you stand on the question? Personally i think a merge of both is needed.

Mr. Miyagi was like: *Kreese a big fat loser compared to me.*

I agree, there is space for both.

No too much off Daniel’s Cobra Kai but Mr. Myagi’s Cobra Kai has a WAYYY higher cap

I thought it was over the top at first but seeing what is happening in schools today, I thought it was brilliant after the third time I watched it. I just hope they handle the aftermath in a realistic manner. I mean, no one was arrested and Tory was just chilling at the dojo at the end. And not one adult was looking for Robby? That was sad.

@@humzaqureshi1391 - My friend - can you can see the contradiction between your chosen preference and the tone and language of your response?

Miguel was literally the only student in Cobra Kai who showed mercy. Sam and Demitri were the only students from either dojo that conducted themselves with grace throughout their encounters. Both Sam and Demitri tried to avoid fighting. They defended themselves only when there was no other option, and neutralized their opponents. Chris was much the same, aside from using the book at the end. Robbie tried to stop the fight from escalating but Miguel's misunderstanding of the situation led him to ignite a larger fight when he tackled Robbie. When Miguel realized his faults, and offered a truce, Robbie attacked.

@@4L3XW4ND3R You're forgetting about Aisha from Cobra Kai who was also trying to stop the fight and not get involved until the one little punk from Miyagi Do shoved her into a locker at which point she needed to defend herself.

Alexander Holloman If Sam had really wanted to avoid a fight, then she would not have confronted Tory in the hallway after being called out. Of course, not cheating on Robby by kissing another girl’s boyfriend would’ve helped enormously too.

tylor calvin Robby Kicks Miguel From a 2 story building.

@@jamesxm4240 don't you mean Miguel?

tylor calvin What defense Robby is a pussy

First punch can be the past punch

Lol Daniel is a hot head

Kevinus Maximus Thomas wrong. Kreese is just trying to bring Cobra Kai back to where it should be. Johnny is the one who has lost his way.

steelerfreak1977 wtf r u smoking? I wanna try some of it

@@steelerfreak1977 You understand Kreese himself realizes he's sick in the head right? He stated that to Johnny, what war did to him is irreparable. He's training them to become cold-blooded killers ready to go to a war but the thing is they aren't soldiers, they're in a civilized world and in a civilized world you get into a lot of trouble if you go with such attitude, Kreese is merely a veteran who couldn't let go off the horrors of war, you could say he's a victim, but at the same time that turned him into a horrible human being.

Blue113 nothing you said refutes my point and I agree with your post. Cobra Kai is Kreese’s vision. It’s tenets are Kreese’s. Johnny changed it into something that ISN’T Cobra Kai.

@@steelerfreak1977 Yeah, now I get your point sorry. Johnny wanted to change cobra kai, make it something that wasn't all peace and flowers like Miyagi-do but he also realized that being completely merciless wasn't the way either. He's in between with being brutal is ok but also knowing your limits. Unfortunately after how everything went down in season 2 finale I think Cobra Kai is cursed forever and back to its original roots, a dark path for those who can't see the difference between mercy and honor.

A victory so painful that he lost everything that he cared about. Their styles also reflect a different approach to the goal of fighting. For Kreese, winning the fight is the goal. For Miyagi, ending the fight (and going home) is the goal.

@@hweidigiv well said

No. Miyagi-do with a Kata foundation, can stand on it's own. It's already been shown that Miyagi style karate was corrupted by Sato and Chozin, and proved fallible against Daniel's training. Kreese failed against Miyagi. Even "bad boy" Mike Barnes fell to Miyagi-do. Karate based in anger and revenge will always fail.

I really got inspired by your comment btw

@@JacySanjunXiao me too

no its all wrong john kresse has the best fighting shit asshole

Depends on what you mean but either way mr miyagi miyagi-do is on top

Um....... Daniels style is worse than kreese style? Someone is biased

@@ehsanulhaque7312 Johnny taught Miguel too quick it took to Johnny to learn in 2 months don't u read descriptions from Google?

Jordan Rucksack 123 Robby almost killed miguel dont bullshit That.

When one punch can knock a person out, you're wrong.

styles can not be skilled, people can be. So the skill level of either student can vary greatly the philosophy has nothing to do with it. But in a real lfie sence Cobra kai has a huge advantage in real life or death scenarios. but only there.

J͙A͙M͙E͙S͙'X͙M͙ 卐卐 yeah I know, he just wasn’t taught right, I do prefer Miguel over Robby as well but I’m talking about the actual style not the individual students, just all of them in general.

I agree with all of your statements and you made very good points.

Sorry, it won't happen until next year.

@@peterkrug2327 NANI!

It's because the Corona virus sorry

I read that it’s all filmed edited and ready

@@pjk6193 yes that is true, it's so frustrating that they won't release it!

Can’t really fault Amanda for how she feels. This woman has been doing all the work running a multimillion dollar company and has to deal with difficult business situations like losing valuable employees while Daniel was more focused on karate. The whole Cobra Kai vs Miyagi Do Rivalry put a strain on their relationship.

@@Vietmac1993 i think Amanda needs to learn to give Daniel some space, they already work together. Given all Daniel has done he deserves a hobby that is separate from her and should be allowed to indulge in some mid life crisis time, she couldn't even ease up over the course of a single summer with that in mind.She said it wasn't about the work so it seems she is just being clingy

Daniel already has a great life. He is a millionaire with a beautiful wife and kids. He does not need to be teaching karate. For him to try to foil Johnny’s plans to rebuilding his life was just flat out wrong. It’s partially his fault that Miguel is in the hospital now. There is a lot of blame to go around. For all the things that have happened. Yes Daniel has done some good like helping Robby and a few other kids but he done some slimy things like screwing with Johnny’s livelihood and trying to be a political rat to keep Cobra Kai from being banned.

@@Vietmac1993 Miguel being in the hospital is on Johnny for not teaching his son any better and telling Miguel he wasn't there for Robby. When Miguel said "you like that move, i learned it from your dad" it fed the darker impulses in Robby stemming from 16 years worth of abandonment issues and falling into the wrong crowd because Johnny wasn't there. Miguel and Sam are also the cause of the riot because they cheated on their partners. Also considering the history of illegal contact in the first and third Karate Kid movies Cobra Kai should be banned, heck this is further reinforced seeing how Eli kicked Robby when his back was turned then Miguel pulled on that same injured arm when Robby offered to help him up. Daniel isn't psychic but he does remember the past and reacts accordingly because if history repeats then someone needs to protect kids.

@TheCeilingFanCollectorHD Sam and Miguel cheating on their partners wasn't because of Miyagi Do, that would have happened regardless. Most of the conflict came from Kreese but even before then Cobras behaved badly at the tournament, Aisha acted very poorly telling the guy who beat her to "eat shit asshole", Eli kicking someone who had their back turned, and even Miguel pulling on the injured arm of someone offering to help him up.

Cobra Kai training with miyagi-do philosophy would be a powerful and balanced combination.

​@@derek96720 Yeah there's bit of that about. The style I'm doing in Osaka, Itosu-Ryu (falls under the Shtio Rya family), Fits the Bags, conditioning, kumite and kata into 2 or 3 hour training sessions.

They merged.

Me too I possibility huge fan Daniel larusso and Mr. Miyagi so i'm 100% of miyagi do team

Daniel is lame

Jonny did notice what Miguel and Hawk were doign and tried to get them to stop. and his first move afterwards was to correct the flaw. He is the best because out of the three he is trying to improve his style the other two are not.

True theres a lot of plot armour but cobra kai students come out on top a decent bit, like at the all valley or when miguel beat robby in the s2 final

Damp Astrylix that’s literally the only time they came out on top . And they had to add that cobra Kai needed to cheat even though Robby only waxed a few cars and painted fences yet all of a sudden is a karate master .

@@filthymcnasty3788 facts man, lets be honest theres A LOT of plot armour, especially in demetri vs hawk

@@filthymcnasty3788 Myagi-do is better, no mistery.

Louis Rodrigues umm whatever you say bud . 🤷🏻‍♂️ miyagi- do is like the virtue signalling version of karate . And I think you mean “mystery “

That’s not true. Just look at Miyagi when he fought Johnny and his crew, Kreese and Silver. Those dudes had no honour yet still backed off when Miyagi beat them down.