Do you believe everything Silver said about his Master from Korea? Or...does this theory add up?

If Sato taught Silver, he didn't do a very good job cause Miyagi dismantled his ass pretty damn quickly. Lol

“There are no bad students; only bad teachers.” -Mr. Miyagi

Wouldn’t Mr. Miyagi recognize his family’s style of karate being used by cobra kai in the first movie if this was true.

Interesting, if Sato trained John Kreese and Terry Silver, this would change everything. Sato would've been the founder of Cobra Kai!!!!!

Danny: can YOU do that, Mr Miyagi? Miyagi: don't know. Haven't been attacked by a tree yet *gets stomped by an ent*

Maybe Miyagi knew this and he felt bad about "Miyagi-do" karate being use to bully Daniel,so he decided to train him

Holy shit! Just imagine Daniel and Johnny’s reaction if they found out that Sato trainee Kreese and Silver, that means that Cobra Kai is really Miyagi-Do!

Any news if there will be a season 4??? Because 10 more episodes is not gonna be enough!!

This is your best theory yet! Because it’s very deep yet realistic, and intellectually makes sense. This would come off as well researched and believable to the viewer.

Also, and someone may have already told you oh, so forgive me if I'm just repeating somebody else's correction, but Miyagi and Daniel went to Okinawa in 1985, despite the Karate Kid 2 being a 1986 film, they left for Okinawa only 6 months following the 1984 all Valley tournament. The Karate Kid 3, took place in 1985 as well and it was the 1985 all Valley tournament that Daniel faced Mike Barnes. This was even specifically pointed out in Cobra Kai season 1.

There was a reference that Kreese's style was Tang Soo Do (Korean style translating to Way of the China Hand). When Silver said that his & Kreese's teacher (in either Tang Soo Do, Tae Kwon Do or Hapkido) was Korean, it's believable. Silver was fond of kicking which is a trait of Korean martial arts. In reality, the actor holds a black belt in Tae Kwon Do. Although cross-training martial arts during the war may have been possible, a reason to disregard Sato as their teacher is that his style was Okinawan Goju-Ryu which is a style that does not use kicks to the degree that Silver used them. Goju-Ryu tends to use more hand techniques and applies fewer basic, non-flashy kicks. Again, more kicking is what differentiates Korean martial arts from Okinawan Karate. Besides, his hand techniques did not resemble Goju-Ryu. So I believe Silver's teacher/Sabumnim was Korean.

So basically the lore of KK is much more thoughtful and in depth than the MCU and Star Wars combined ...

Miyagi's style is based in circular movements. Cobra's is linear and direct. But, I guess writers could walk around and say that Sato taught a militarized version of it.

I like your Karate Kid analysis better than Star Wars. Disney ruined Star Wars, but Cobra Kai is awesome.

Been following your page for a while now and I’ve got to say this is one of the best theories you’ve put out there. This would be crazy if it comes to fruition.

You did an amazing job with this theory and it all makes a huge sense. I hope the producers have already thought about that possibility. It would make the experience a lot more interesting.

Extremely plausible! Philosophies and techniques do indeed change over time as the next generation of students use and develop them. Love this and now am even more stoked about season 3!

Yep, I can see a lot of this coming to fruition. Maybe not necessarily through Sato, but as far as finding out that Miyagi-Do and Cobra Kai were founded by the same person and are basically the "light side/dark side" of the same style....I do think that's where the series is eventually headed.

Dude, this is pretty beast! Thanks for continuing to post these. Can't wait for season 3!

I'm already hyped for Season 4 and Season 3 hasn't even started yet...Cobra Kai never dies!

Could this be the secret Miyagi was hiding and could Daniel and Johnny join their two dojo’s together and in the process bringing balance to the valley!!!😇😉😉✊

This would mean that Miyagis father started everything and the with him teaching Sato karate as an exception to the rule of only teaching father to son would’ve resulted in Cobra Kai

The "Luke I am your Father" moment 🤔😲

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This theory aged like cottage cheese.

i just binged season 1 & 2 for the first time this show is amazing

Most fan videos are unbearable. This was well thought out and well reasoned. Thank you - your predictions are excellent, let's see how they pan out.

Gotta admit the title had me going "Yeah, right" but you made some really good arguments.

I’m sorry if I sound rude by requesting a video but I was thinking you could do a video on what if mr miyagi never met Daniel and maybe explain the storyline of the future of Daniel and Johnny or any other character from the series

I've been saying this since day one I also think that Miagi's father taught both of them but Sato took the darker more violent version and Miyagi took the light more defensive version. Everything comes full circle and with the two combined one learns to be a confident badass (Cobra Kai) but how to harness the badassery and maintain complete balance (Miyagi-do). Its basically the philosophy of Jung wrapped up in a TV show one cannot know their true self until they know their shadow. Harnessing that shadow is not as simple as ignoring it that just makes it stronger, you need to know your shadow and how to use it so it can stay placated.

Legit forgot you had this channel, awesome

Very smart and creative theory. You come up with some good stuff that nobody else has theorized. That would be very interesting if it happens and they go that route.

Feel like I just watched season 3. Can’t wait for season 4 now.

That makes perfect sense I never thought of it that way it would be a wonderful plot points span and unite the two

I really enjoy your videos. Thank you so much !

I've been kicking this Theory around for a few months and it seems like the best. The only thing I would add is that Cobra Kai is the Yin to Myagi Do's Yang so Johnny and Daniel may eventually teach each other, their Karate...

Sato's style of karate was totally different from what Kreese taught. Sato was Okinawan and taught Okinawan karate. Silver mentioned that their instructor was from Korea in kk3 and you can clearly see that the style is very korean like with the kicks and flashy moves. It looks more like Tang Soo do. Sorry but doesn't seem possible to me.

For a future "Who vs who" video, I think "Hawk vs Dutch" would be cool.

You have no idea this means everything this is super real thanks for the outing this out there stuff make a lot of sense and just push the show longer and really good ideas this is mind blowing thanks a lot your videos are A1

This is your best theory yet! I hope it comes true in season 3

Kreese/Silver/Cobra Kai is clearly different in style than Miyagi-Do.

That would be a real shocking twist

This is the best Cobra Kai theory I've heard. Everything you state in this video, makes sense and can play out exactly as you said. I'm curious to see more of Terry Silver and any information, that can help us learn more about Cobra Kai. There's so much potential for the show it's crazy. Love the show so far. Season 3 will enter w whole new level of crazy, epicness. TERRANCE OUT

It is rare I make a comment, prefereing to just enjoy the material and chill while going about my business. But every once in a while I see a video that causes me to think Woah... that is really well thought out and good. You Sir, just blew me away with that one. Outstanding job and theory. I really thought about this one and feel this has strong merit. Thanks again and keep making great content on all your channels ( I watch them all lol ). 💪😎👍

This is also a possibility maybe Sato knew the teacher that taught Silver & Kreese & perhaps maybe even being friends with him as well.

This theory was very clever, I would've never thought Sato trained kreese. I have a feeling that Mr. Miyagi knew about this, hence the statement "No bad student, only bad teacher".

Damn, rhis show just keeps expanding and getting even more interesting, my mind is blown away right now.

I’ve been following the SWT page for over a year and I remember when this page started, I didn’t have RED so I couldn’t watch spoilers but now being caught up. This is the most solid realistic theory you’ve dropped good sir

He did train American soldiers in Okinawa Daniel girlfriend even said so in Karate Kid 2 and Chozen his nephew was his number 1 student and helped Sato train American soldiers

Wow.. great theory!! I hope this comes to pass. Adding more depth into the already fantastic story line. Thus more great seasons and storylines to work with

OH MY GOD, i was picking around your channel since I had just finished cobra kai and I was wondering why your voice was so familiar, then I realized you were actually star wars theory!!! you have a lot of range huh :D

Please do Miguel vs Mike Barnes( Karate Kid 3 )

Love it can’t wait for the next season

This is the best channel ever, you need to write season 4

Either way you have come up with a great story line for season 3 if the writers of the Cobra Kai series have not included these plot veneration in the Cobra Kai Story the really need to as it will give this series some real dept and meaning.

This is very possible 🤔 very interesting too...

Entirely plausible, all of the above. Well speculated, as always. p.s. Always assumed that Silver was lying about Kim Sun-Yung. I doubt very highly that any of what he said was true.

I think Terry was telling the truth about who his teacher was/is in South Korea. When they were at Cadena Air Base (most likely) before Nam they were maybe Karate trainers and maybe worked alongside Sato. What if Terry and Sato both founded Dynatox Industries? In part 2 Myagi does say that Sato’s family “was richest in village.” So maybe already having this wealth allowed him to go into this entrepreneurship with Terry. Remember the shirt Sato is wearing when he says “I come help rebuild?” Its like a recycling logo with fish. So is that an environmentalist shell company for Dynatox?

When Daniel had Kyler over for dinner and was talking to him about the knife he was using, he mentioned "on my first trip to Okinawa"..kinda implies he has been more than once. If Chozen wanted him dead and hated him, seems he wouldn't want to hang around Okinawa much. Which says to me him and Chozen have made peace at some point. The japan POV from the KK story has always been very interesting and I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with any secrets

Sato taught Miyagi-Do karate, which was more of an offshoot of Goju Ryu, a traditional Okinawan art. He may have emphasised the more brutal aspects of the art, but it was still Miyagi-Do. Cobra Kai, was more of a taekwondo style, which is based off of Japanese Karate and is quite different. I doubt Silver was lying about it's origins. That said, didn't Miyagi fight in the Korean war? Perhaps, he actually met their teacher in Korea as an enemy and fought him, not knowing his name. Or their teacher was saved by Miyagi, watching him fight and this inspired him to learn karate. I think that would be a much more interesting reason for Cobra Kai's origins. That it's formation was inspired by Miyagi Do in a positive way, as a means of hope and it was John Kreese and Terry Silver, who perverted it's teachings. It would give Johnny and Daniel a stronger connection and perhaps inspire Johnny to want to search for a greater meaning to his art, while teaching Daniel that Miyagi's legacy has a far greater reach than the art he practises.

This doesn't make sense, Cobra Kai is Korean karate most likely Tang Soo Do. Miyagi Do is Okinawan karate which is closer to Tae Kwan Do. I don't think everything and everyone is going to have that close of a connection because it would massively shrink the Cobra Kai/Karate Kid universe

I do believe everything that Silver said about his master from Korea. For 5 years, I studied Sansei Isshinryu Karate, which is an offshoot from Okinawa Isshinryu Karate. My sensei learned Isshinryu while stationed in Okinawa, and while his other travels in the military, he studied judo, shotokan and other forms of martial arts, then combined what he learned into his own style. So it's possible Kreese and Silver learned karate from Korea, and in a layover in Okinawa, could've picked up karate from Sato.

I love this theory, awesome tie ins and adds depth and connections into the 3 movies other then just Daniel and Miyagi's friendship

Taking information from the past movies and building on that history makes a lot of sense. It also fits with what Johnny's son Robby told Johnny: in Episode 10 of season 2: " You can learn a lot from each other." So if Daniel and Johnny learn that Cobra Kai games out of Sato's teaching, then they a have common foundation to form an alliance.

I think Kreese and Silver twisted Sato's teachings.

You say it's "just a wild theory", but I don't think it's wild or far fetched at all - I think it sounds absolutely badass! You really did some brilliant thinking here, my man ;-) The theory absolutely holds water! It would be such a cool way to tie together the world of Miyagi-Do and Cobra Kai, THROUGH Sato and Miyagi. It would also give the known phrase, "different but same" a much BIGGER meaning going forward ;-) Absolutely love this!!

The fact you are doing this is amazing. I love me some daniel.if Jonny fights by his side is epic.👍🔥👊

I could see it, easily. When he meant "Korea" he could have easily just meant during that War.

After all this speculation it'd be a huge disappointment if Terry Silver doesn't turn up in season 3 lol 😂

I was in mood for part 2 last week lol. I watched on Showtime or Starz. Remember it in theaters when i was 13!

I wish they will have a history of Miyagi and Soto when they were young and learning Karate and how their rivalry started.

FACTS: The writers of Cobra Kai would NEVER be desperate enough to make it so John Kreese and/or Terry Silver were trained by Sato. We live in a small world, but not that small. This video is so dumb that I literally thought you were going to say that Terry Silver inherited Dynatox from his father - a man who, according to the timeline, was old enough to know Sato so that both the Silver family and the Sato family became wealthy as a result of dumping radioactive waste in the area of Okinawa and Japan. Radioactive waste being dumped in the areas of Okinawa and Japan in that time period of 40 years prior to 1986 agrees with when a radioactive monster named Godzilla attacked Japan, so obviously Godzilla must be linked to Sato and Dynatox Corp. ... Sorry, this is just too far fetched. ... There would be far too many coincidences. If the writers were that desperate, it would be a BIG turn off! The way I interpreted the Karate Kid movies and Cobra Kai series, John Kreese and Terry Silver are associated with war in the geographic region of Vietnam, not Japan or Okinawa. The movies make it clear that John Kreese was definitely a karate master and repeated karate champion at the point he was in the Vietnam War. We also know Terry Silver was in the Vietnam War with John Kreese, and that John Kreese taught Terry Silver. Also, I got the impression that John Kreese was already a well-established karate master before he was even in the military. John Kreese simply displayed his skills as a champion of karate once he was in the military. If John Kreese was associated with Sato, wouldn't we have seen something associated with Sato being his teacher in the Cobra Kai dojo. Also, both John Kreeese and Terry Silver are very racist against people from the geographic region of Japan and Okinawa. Remember how Kreese called Mr. Myagi a "slope." If John Kreese had been trained by Sato, John Kreese would indisputably NOT be displaying such racist behavior against Myagi. There is no doubt Terry Silver was lying about his master being Kim Sung Yung of South Korea. Virtually everything Terry Silver said in that particular scene was a deliberate lie meant to deceive Mr. Myagi and Daniel. For example, Terry Silver also said John Kreese died in that scene, but that was a lie. Another example is Terry Silver saying all those lies about how "War does something to a man," and then saying "442nd" to Mr. Myagi. All of that was a setup so Terry Silver could once again "lie" to that guy at the dance club in order to hire him to start a fight with Daniel. Terry Silver "lies" more than any other character. There is NO DOUBT Terry Silver was LYING about "Kim Sung Yung of South Korea" being his teacher, because John Kreese and Terry Silver are HUGE racists and would NEVER allow themselves to be associated with "slopes" like that. There is no doubt Terry Silver was "taught" by John Kreese. Terry Silver was "taught" by John Kreese during Vietnam when Silver was young and Kreese was older and more experienced - a "champion." We were never told who the teacher of John Kreese was. But, there is no doubt John Kreese did not have a teacher who was a "slope" type of foreigner, because Kreese is far too racist. We were not even told if John Kreese had a "teacher" at all. We know for sure that John Kreese was the founder of the Cobra Kai concept and the "Way of the Fist" used by members of the Cobra Kai. We know this concept is based on the principles of: "Strike First; Strike Hard; No Mercy." We know John Kreese taught the concept of "When a man confronts you, he is the enemy; the enemy deserves no mercy." We also know Terry Silver purchased the Cobra Kai dojo for John Kreese. And we know Terry Silver planned on expanding this to an entire chain of dojos. We also know Terry Silver taught Daniel "The Quick Silver" concepts of "If a man can't stand; he can't fight. If a man can't see; he can't fight. And, if a man can't breath; he can't fight." Those may or may not have been actual lessons Terry Silver created on his own. Those three lessons also simply may have been another group of "lies" Terry Silver created simply for Daniel. This is a strong possibility simply because Daniel said, "You can't make me do something I don't want to do," and then Terry Silver responded by saying, "Ever since I met you I've been making you do things you don't want to do." This seems to imply Terry Silver may have created the "Quick Silver" concept simply as part of his plan to get revenge against Daniel. The bottom line is, we indisputably know for a fact that Terry Silver was taught by John Kreese. We know that John Kreese was the founder of Cobra Kai and The Way of the Fist. We do not know who the actual "teacher" of John Kreese was or "if" John Kreese had a teacher at all. We know for an indisputable fact that John Kreese and Terry Silver are very racist - they would never be associated with foreign people from Japan as part of their dojo or learning from them. If the writers were to say this is the case and claim we simply live in a world that small, the writers may as well just say Dynatox is a corporation owned by the wealthy Silver family and the wealthy Sato family, and then claim Dynatox and Sato are responsible for dumping radioactive material in Japan - which gave birth to Godzilla in the timeline of 1954 (which matches up with Sato being in the area at the time).

This theory of Kreese and Silver being trained by Sato will ABSOLUTELY demolish the history of the Karate Kid Saga because right from Karate Kid I, we saw the mentality of both Kreese and Miyagi were completely different - Kreese, the type who goes round 'looking' for trouble by saying 'here - on the street - in competition, if a man faces you, he is the enemy.' This is an absolutely neurotic way of thinking. On the other hand, there is Miyagi - a very calm and placid person whose philosophy is 'let the fight come to you, if it is a matter of integrity'. So Sato could not have trained Kreese & Silver.

That is the best theory I have heard. Well done .

I watched a vid with Martin Kove talking about how astute the show writers are, so it wouldn’t surprise me that this content could be true. Or at least excellent theory. Martin was saying the writers are pretty much ahead of things when it comes to creating content more so than other writers. I haven’t actually seen season 1 or 2, but hoping these are also on Netflix which goes live on Friday for us.

This is an interesting theory indeed that could have legs. If this is true, then of course Sato, Chozen, Kreece and Silver could all be connected. I think it is possible that Dutch may have been Kreece's biological or illegitimate son using his mother's maden name. Dutch was really loyal to Kreece to the point that he wouldn't help Johnny when Kreece was choking him out.

Imagine Chozen fights Terry silver in order to avenge the mistakes he made in Karate kid 2. So in order to defend his uncles honour he fights Terry silver in Season 3

I love your theories man so fun!! I don’t think this is what the writers had in mind when they wrote the second karate kid. To my knowledge there wasn’t even a planned third sequel until later.. However if cobra Kai wanted to utilize some of this narrative it would be kind of cool

Things different from Miyagi and Sato vs Kresse and Terry, Miyagis best friend is Sato and Kreese bestfriend is Terry,Silver is the true owner of Cobra kai and a billionaire,While Sato is the greatest Karate master in Okinawa and has trained the U.S Military.

Theres so way miyagi would of known from the terry's fighting style

nice theory but the styles are too different. Cobra Kai is Tang Soo Do. Plus Terry Silver makes reference to his Teacher from Korea.

This is the best theory i have heard so far!

i've been playing with this idea in my head for a long time, and even more so after the trailer lol

This is the best "theory" I've heard so far. I'm really hoping it makes it into the series.

Interesting theory. Feels like a bit of a reach though. We shall see...

Just noticed the ad above in yellow for the first time. Sato didn't just train GIs, but he also looked after them, making sure they didn't get lonely all those thousands of miles away from home. Lol

BOOM!! My mind was just blown, thanks

Na, the founder of Cobra Kai is definitely Korean it wasn't Sato

Nope. In KK 3, Silver clearly says our masters in KOREA heard about Kreese. Cobra Kai is basically Tang Doo Do.

Nice that was a great video I Really enjoyed it that would be awesome if that is mr Miyagi secret !

I love your channel. I have a lot of theories about Kreese and Silver. Maybe we could collaborate? (Got to do something while waiting for Season 3 to come out. Got to keep the fandom alive.)

Hmmmm idk how I feel about this theory tbh. Feels like something that would happen in Star Wars. I mean it could be kinda cool if this were to happen but at the same time, this isn’t Star Wars.

Im not convinced based on the trainging styles,Miyagi do is all about the Kata, Cobra Kai is all sparring and conditioning,this could just be a preference in the teacher but its a massive difference...I do think that if Johnny gives up on Cobra Kai he will convert to Kyokushin like style. A form off karate where perseverance (toughness) can be your biggest strength

Dude your videos are really good 😁🤘🏻

After reading the comments, I personally know guys who trained one way (art) then went onto learn from others ie UFC. Sensi Kreese & Silver couldn’t train via Korean karate and still visited Sato at some point!

Heres a Theory: Will Daniel find Robby in Okinawa?

Makes a lot of sense. Two sides of the same coin, the yin and yang of Miyagi-do....Balance.

The hilarious thing is the actor that plays Terry Silver is actually 1 year younger than Ralph Macchio. Ralph was playing like an 18 year old in that movie while Silver was playing someone in his 30s. In reality Ralph was 27 and Silvers actor was 26.

I love this channel 👊💯 🥋