Cold molded diagonal planking our wooden boat (EP 4)

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A boat by the river

A boat by the river

Жыл бұрын

It's time for us to move back to the hull, in this episode we show and describe our way of laying the diagonal planks on Tarkine. With the help of our secret weapon, the plastic nail gun.

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@brianparravicino163
@brianparravicino163 Жыл бұрын
Beeautiful. In my humble opinion, the best balance of traditional wood and modern epoxy. And the plastic nails are the bomb!
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Brian! It surely will be very strong! And a great method for amateurs like us.
@paulvanhouts3365
@paulvanhouts3365 Жыл бұрын
Hi from Townsville. I am not a boatie but love wood. This looks great, my fist view of this build so I am going to binge on previous episodes. The two of you need to pat each other on the back for a job well done. I didn’t know there were plastic nail guns, brilliant for this type of work. It seems that they are up to the task with your strip planking.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Hello there! Hopefully you enjoy the rest! The plastic nails gun is actually an American company that invented it or atleast started it. It’s a fantastic thing!
@jthepickle7
@jthepickle7 Жыл бұрын
The boss was watching a new employee nail up sheathing over the studs. He watched and watched, noticing the the kid hadn't refilled the nail gun in quite a while. The boss yells up, "Hey! - you got any nails in that gun?" The kid yells back, "I thought the nails came up through the air hose." (Why I never let the framers build my stair stringers)
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
That would actually be so handy if the gun got an automatic nail feed! We could have gone even faster that way! Jokes aside, it really is a handy machine for this purpose! Thanks for sharing a joke!
@patchmack4469
@patchmack4469 Жыл бұрын
like an awesome piece of Scandinavian furniture seen the plastic nail gun used to make a tender for Acorn to Arabella in US, i love it when things get reinvented, like the common rivet, makes life much faster and economical, must be a great asset to the build
@riverbigby.swagman
@riverbigby.swagman Жыл бұрын
Wooo looking amazing. The best boat builders i know bar none
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Oh thank you beautiful friend! We always work faster and happier with your tunes playing!
@kimrevell9419
@kimrevell9419 Жыл бұрын
She is beautiful! I can appreciate all your hard work, you should be very proud of what you are bring to life.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Kim for the lovely comment!
@marcushatch5863
@marcushatch5863 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding, great progress.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Marcus!
@propylaeen
@propylaeen Жыл бұрын
You are great together you work so beautifully in harmony with each other nice to watch, great video I‘m thankful for KZfaq pushing it up into my sight.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, that's such a very nice thing to say!
@tommytriglav5181
@tommytriglav5181 Жыл бұрын
WOW THIS YACHT BUILD IS SO EXCITING. I WAS THINKING OF MAKING EXACTLY THE SAME IN BAMBOO STRIPS SO I AM WATCHING EVERYTHING VERY CLOSELY. YOU ARE DOING A TERRIFIC JOB. WATCHING AS YOU GO. WOW! SO EXCITING FOR ME! I WAS PLANNING ON USING 4 LAYERS, INSIDE OUTSIDE THE LENGTH OF THE SHIP AND THEN 2 LAYERS DIAGONAL IN THE MIDDLE. SO I AM LEARNING A LOT BY WATCHING. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR BUILD!!!!!! WOW! SO EXCITING!!!!!!TERRIFIC !!! FANTASTIC BUILD!!!!
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much for your enthusiastic response! Good luck with your build and have lots of fun with it!
@jeremiah1059
@jeremiah1059 2 ай бұрын
I know you're excited but you don't have to YELL!
@jeffmack4995
@jeffmack4995 Жыл бұрын
Just found you folks!! Wow what fantastic work. On a par with the Tally Ho and Acorn to Arabella projects. Thanks for letting us see it.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Wow what a compliment! Thanks so much
@jasonworles9395
@jasonworles9395 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work. You two work so well together. A joy to watch.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thats a Lovely feedback Jason we do enjoy working together a lot!
@TheThriftyWoodworker
@TheThriftyWoodworker Жыл бұрын
Looks great, love the look of the laminate.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It sure is a new look for us too, very nice after looking at the strip planking all last year.
@JenkinsBoatWorks
@JenkinsBoatWorks Жыл бұрын
Well done. Cold molded my Haven 12 1/2 and I remember how it seemed like the next strip should mate up and almost never did
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
That's so true, every plank seems to have a different curve it needs to bend to. It's tricky but it's working!
@JenkinsBoatWorks
@JenkinsBoatWorks Жыл бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River should be nearly bullet proof too.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
We hope so! The thought was that we will never regret going the extra mile to make her stronger. We can only really regret not spending the time and money on her seaworthiness and this method will hopefully give that peace of mind in rough weather conditions! Are you happy with the result on your Haven? Sounds like a really cool project!
@JenkinsBoatWorks
@JenkinsBoatWorks Жыл бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River very happy with the Haven. I did loads of video of the build. here is a clip of sailing "Enchanted" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fqykhJV8y9fXeqM.html
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Awesome!! We will go and watch them! Thank you for sharing!
@roblescurbappealconcrete
@roblescurbappealconcrete Жыл бұрын
I had no doubt that y’all would get it in at 45•, it looks amazing. I’m sure y’all were excited about getting to this part of the build. Keep up the good work. Texas
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes it was very exciting and addictive, you just want to keep putting them on!
@rogerbayzand4455
@rogerbayzand4455 Жыл бұрын
I love the plastic nail gun, it sure beats the wire staples shot through a piece of cardboard so you could pull them out after each lamination. Looks like you are going really well and a beautiful fair job.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Roger! The plastic nail gun is really pulling though and we are happy we gave it a go! I think we will be thanking that decision in the future. We were also surprised and pleased how fair the laminations are curving and bending along the lines. Thank you for leaving a comment!
@kennethkay1
@kennethkay1 Жыл бұрын
Looking fantastic ! The glue lam hull is exactly what I would build .
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kenneth it's such a strong method! We won't have to worry about her hull strength in a bit of weather!
@bengtrosengren9624
@bengtrosengren9624 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!!
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Bengt!
@nena4215
@nena4215 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I’ve never seen anything like that, it’s amazing and gorgeous!
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Nena! Happy you enjoyed the process and the results!
@n01k32
@n01k32 Жыл бұрын
Great Team, lovely to watch
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's so nice to say!
@user-bc7gc5wr3n
@user-bc7gc5wr3n 6 ай бұрын
55 years ago when I was 14 I helped my brother double diagonal plank the hulls of a 35 ft trimaran very strong method we cruised Mexico!
@TheArtofBoatBuilding
@TheArtofBoatBuilding Жыл бұрын
Great example of cold molding. What size are your first layer of strips. I've only carvel, strip and lapstrake planked. Looking forward to a new build that is cold molded. Thanks. Just subscribed! Cheers, Bob
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
What an honour to have you watching our video! (We obviously closely follow you and your amazing work). Our first layer are 25mm/30mm +/-. It is surprisingly quick to cold mould, we expect less than a week to finish stbd side and that’s including machining stock and hull prep with only the two of us! Cheers, Matt and Iefke.
@martinshields4172
@martinshields4172 Жыл бұрын
Nice video once again.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Martin!
@OurFrenchHouseRenovation
@OurFrenchHouseRenovation Жыл бұрын
New subscriber, what a thing of beauty this is, looking forward to watching the progress, thanks for sharing
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks for watching. We tried to find your channel but couldn’t work out what it’s called?
@OurFrenchHouseRenovation
@OurFrenchHouseRenovation Жыл бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River thanks it’s called “Our French House Renovation” cheers
@1958HHH
@1958HHH Жыл бұрын
Diagonal cold molded boats are gorgeous especially when left clear for the wood to show thru. Here in the USA western red cedar is mostly what ya see and it is beautiful done clear. Don’t know what the wood you’re using is and if it would even look good clear coated. But that’s what paint is there for.
@user-bc7gc5wr3n
@user-bc7gc5wr3n 6 ай бұрын
You kids sure work fast!!!
@glennjaggard7065
@glennjaggard7065 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Glenn
@scottieson88
@scottieson88 Жыл бұрын
Great channel guys….😊
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Hopefully quality and content is improving also, we’re trying!
@nicolasmejia1736
@nicolasmejia1736 Жыл бұрын
Great vídeo
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thank you Nicolas!
@87Benz-tf9qs
@87Benz-tf9qs 2 ай бұрын
I have always used wood flour to thicken epoxy . It is much cheaper than the west system epoxy powder and works just as good. I have tried to split a joint using wood flour and epoxy and have always broke the wood before the joint would break.
@vogs72
@vogs72 Жыл бұрын
Liking great, and those nails will save so much work and grief later.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
We are so excited about it too! No corrosion no troubles!
@MurfittTim
@MurfittTim Жыл бұрын
Really love the diagonal veneer. Do you know at what size boat it is recommended that you diagonal veneer over strip planking. I have only ever seen smaller boats and canoes where it has just been strip plank only.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Hi Tim! Good question, in boatbuilding there is always 300 ways to do something! This is the advice of the designer and she was designed for this method. Diagonal planking has been used for many years for different types of vessels. At work we are working in a 45ft boat from 1898 that has three layers of diagonal planking!
@fonhollohan2908
@fonhollohan2908 7 ай бұрын
I can't imagine the amount of epoxy you must need for that size of a project but nevertheless the boat is gonna be a sold haul when its done. I'm guessing you will need two layers of diagonal layers of stripe planking to have a tough enough haul?
@multihullminion9201
@multihullminion9201 10 күн бұрын
Many thanks for publishing this… how many board ft. /m of veneer were needed to plank Tarkine?… Any leads to veneer suppliers? Much obliged for any info.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River 10 күн бұрын
Ooooh a tricky one, we made our own veneer from 75mm x 35mm hardwood, we ripped them into 4 pieces. It’s on the verge of not being a veneer at 5mm but we did really search around for veneer company as money was tight! Haha
@MrMichaelcurran
@MrMichaelcurran Жыл бұрын
Ist time viewer! Watched this video because I was impressed with your cold molding hull layup. Would very much like to follow your progress. Am I wrong in thinking your New Zelanders?
@ArtifexBarbarus
@ArtifexBarbarus 11 ай бұрын
Tasmania is an Aussie Island southeast of Australia's main island\continent
@russellesimonetta9071
@russellesimonetta9071 Жыл бұрын
Uhh, I,d love to build a big Wharram Tiki and cold mold the hulls! I think better than mustleing sheets of ply up on the hulls and torturing the ply into place!
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
We really enjoyed the cold moulding process. It's relatively easy for amateurs like us. Hope you start your build and let us know when you do!
@predictabledd
@predictabledd Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thumps up!
@blackbirdxx4613
@blackbirdxx4613 Жыл бұрын
I've been working timber for 50 years.... You're doing an excellent job........ Can you estimate what the boat would have cost you guy's
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Ooooh that’s a tricky one, we try not to think about it to be honest. Never actually kept a tally
@KitLaughlin
@KitLaughlin Жыл бұрын
What is the timber used for the fore-and-afts and the diagonals? Very nice work.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
It's all Tasmanian Oak!
@KitLaughlin
@KitLaughlin Жыл бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Eucalyptus regnans, or one of the other two that go by the same name (delegatensis or obliqua)? I ask because several species of Victorian eucalyptus hardwoods are called "Tassie Oak on the mainland; the naming seems more about marketing than geography! Go Tasmania!
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Yes it's a funny one! It's often difficult to know what sub species we are using as the mill gets the log and its usually hard to tell at that point. Our fore and aft planning was all swamp gum - Regan's which we saw before being cut.
@KitLaughlin
@KitLaughlin Жыл бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Thank you. We do not have these timbers here-you are fortunate. Keep going! I've subscribed.
@robertogeyer4343
@robertogeyer4343 11 ай бұрын
Please inform how many hours you take to do one side of the boat,or average how many minutes by sq feet
@alexanderturl
@alexanderturl Жыл бұрын
Great bull vid mate. What type of wood is the veneer?
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
It's Tasmanian oak as well! We don't know the specific sub species we used for the veneers unfortunately, most likely a collection of the main species. The fore and aft strip planks where Tasmanian swamp gum. Thanks for watching Alexander!
@paullenton8351
@paullenton8351 Жыл бұрын
Hi!!! I love the way it looks!!! Now, I have a question... Why cold molded and not marine ply? Is there a great difference? (Pardon my ignorance)
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Ignorance is bliss! No worries, plywood is firstly not long enough in sheets.. when water gets between plywood it goes crazy with rot. And it won’t be as strong length ways ones it’s cut into thinner pieces… but we did contemplate it at one brief point haha!
@ArtifexBarbarus
@ArtifexBarbarus 11 ай бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River you two are doing a fantastic job job - One of my favorite boats combined with my favorite hull construction technique! I live in the Pacific Northwest where a cold-molded Bob Perry-designed yacht named the Nightrunner has dominated its' class in Victoria>Maui and local races and proved its seaworthiness by "doubling" the Horn - Beautiful, light, strong, and durable.
@timmedcalf1357
@timmedcalf1357 Жыл бұрын
Why is it that you orientated the diagonal planks that way around? Can the diagonals run to the rear as they come down the boat from the gunwale to the hog? (I ask as I would have assumed that running them that way would be the intuitive way - for me at least!).
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Yes we gave that some serious thought as you said we could have gone the other way and most diagonal boats have a couple of diagonal layers so it doesn’t matter as much. We based this choice on when Tarkine pounds into the sea she has a heap of strength transferred to the stem and we can also run the diagonals nicely from the stem post to top of transom.. And it looked better, which is generally the way to go.
@timmedcalf1357
@timmedcalf1357 Жыл бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Thanks for the reply, and good luck with the rest of the build.
@bendaves77
@bendaves77 5 ай бұрын
Does the layer of diagonal planks just mean that you don't have to lay as much fiberglass down on the hull?? Guessing that's the point of it. Ran sailing did a single layer of cold molded strips but used several layers of fiberglass on the outside.. how thick are the planks you have cut..
@user-bc7gc5wr3n
@user-bc7gc5wr3n 6 ай бұрын
Yes I'm old!!
@bogus_not_me
@bogus_not_me 6 ай бұрын
Not sure of the reason you did that diagonal planking on top of the horizontal???...
@johndaniels5629
@johndaniels5629 Жыл бұрын
When putting in the nails, why did you not have them all equidistant apart?
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Our priority was making sure the veneer was nailed down everywhere it needed to be. They are roughly equal distance! Haha but they will be covered with fibreglass and only there to hold the veneer while the epoxy cures.
@chuckaddison5134
@chuckaddison5134 Жыл бұрын
Tell me more about those plastic nails
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Made my raptor nails, an American company, heap of info on the internet but they basically melt slightly when they go in and work almost like glue!
@billiam4054
@billiam4054 10 ай бұрын
hi I know this comment comes late as I've just discovered your channel, .....i was wondering were you not concerned about the amount of nails you used to pin the veneer for both cost and structural integrity ( so many stress points in the woods grain)?.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River 10 ай бұрын
Hmmm a valid point but we never saw that as a concern, with a thin veneer it so impregnated with epoxy it’s basically bullet proof, we run over all the nail holes with thickened epoxy also. Epoxy wood boat building! Ahah
@alfonsotablante6653
@alfonsotablante6653 2 ай бұрын
Greeting friends, where can I buy this plastic nail gun and the nails, thank you
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River 2 ай бұрын
A company called Braford industries in Australia
@user-bc7gc5wr3n
@user-bc7gc5wr3n 6 ай бұрын
Be careful I shot a staple through two fingers and pinned them together needed pliers for extrication
@gtalckmin
@gtalckmin Жыл бұрын
Do you all need any help?
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
There is plenty to do! Help is always very much appreciated!
@user-bc7gc5wr3n
@user-bc7gc5wr3n 6 ай бұрын
Try not to point the gun towards your head!
@jeremiah1059
@jeremiah1059 2 ай бұрын
I can see the budget spiraling out of control with every fastener in excess of 27 in the first meter of 1x material.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Ай бұрын
Oh yes, lucky they are plastic and we don’t have a budget! Haha
@jeremiah1059
@jeremiah1059 Ай бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River nice
@jeremiah1059
@jeremiah1059 Ай бұрын
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River I actually thought about using the "leave-in" plastic fastener method on the next cold molded runabout I build. It seems more efficient and less time consuming than the usual "washer/screw while the epoxy dries" method. What do you think?
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Ай бұрын
Yep! Plastic fasteners are the best, they pin it all together while the glue cures and then they are easy to sand off the heads later! Good idea
@klaasvanmanen8214
@klaasvanmanen8214 Жыл бұрын
I started watching this video because KZfaq suggested it to me. After 4.5 minutes I still had no idea what it was about. So I quit.
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
Oh sad.. you didn’t have time to read the description or see our first video in the 4.5 minutes?
@klaasvanmanen8214
@klaasvanmanen8214 Жыл бұрын
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River My comment was intended as a hint for you: it might help your channel if you pay attention to clear explanations as to what you are doing. Maybe start every video with an introduction. It should not be necessary for any viewer to go back to a description that comes with the first video in the series. Having seen the rather short description under this video, and the poor or even absent explanation of what was going on in this video, I had no reason whatsoever to expect something more elaborate with the first one. On most channels, quality of the videos improves over time, partly because the creators take some of the comments from their viewers into account.
@vette8121
@vette8121 7 ай бұрын
see ya.
@JeremyFairbairn-mv3sz
@JeremyFairbairn-mv3sz Жыл бұрын
what is the beautiful hull inthe background lokks dragonish
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River
@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Жыл бұрын
She’s called Ninie, and looking for a good home!
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