The therapist that said my wife was the problem was the one we never had a second appointment with.

Probably the worse part of the gaslighting is when the narcissist manipulates you into thinking you are the narcissist and they are the victim. You start to believe it especially when there is that little bit of truth mixed in with lots of lies. I think you mentioned in another video where the person being victimized can act out like the narcissistic partner. This was absolutely nuclear and caused me to question my sanity and I was obsessed asking myself “what if I am the narcissist?”

I am a father of 2 sons, 6 and 8, thank you for taking the effort to make this and other videos, it is a life saver for anyone who is at the brink of mental collapse.

dam its heartbreaking to hear this shit.. shout out to the men and women that deal with this..

The system is set up to protect women from narcissistic males. Protecting men from narcissistic women is another matter. Listening to this brings up the panic and horror of my days as an ex husband with 2 small children. Man I sure needed you 15 years ago.

I stopped being defensive. It works.

100% accurate! My nex has explicitly said to me that we will "not co-parent". She wants total control of the situation. I ignore her now, but I reacted in the past. Big mistake. But in the end, I am happy to have be free from her abuse. 20 years of a failed marriage with 3 gorgeous children, a brand new big house just built 2 years ago, good jobs and comfort. But, nothing is enough for these vile creatures. So, I now live in a rented apartment, in a minimalistic life style, and my children enjoy visiting me. Our divorce was on June 2nd. One day after Narc Abuse Awareness day on June 1st. And I have just subscribed to your channel. I follow quite a few channels for about 3 years now. And I have found out about less than a week ago. You're absolutely amazingly accurate. Thank you very much.

Co parent with a narcissist is literally a hell I pray God every day to help me. They literally want make you crazy 😭

This hits so close to home it makes me sick to think about the situation and how it’s affecting my daughter.

As they yell at you to tell you how worthless you are, what you do is ask them not to do such things in the children’s presence, because you are trying to protect the children. They respond by blaming you for using the children as pawns! I’m not making this up! This is what they do! Disengage as thoroughly as possible!

I know a woman who is a covert narcissist and she had to sign her rights away as a mother and the father has all the say, needless to say I have never met her ex husband but he is my hero for putting that soulless b**** in her place.

This is great advice. You can't reason with them. Pull back, don't give them anything to use against you. Assume the worst in every interaction. I eventually got full custody. So when the $$ disappeared, so did she. Hasn't spoken to the kids in over 12 yrs. Gave all the kids therapy. They are mostly well adjusted adults now, but it took a lot of work and a new partner who was willing to help.

How I wish I had seen this video when my then love of my life took our baby daughter, our beloved cat, and everything that we had built together, and left me with nothing but blame, hatred, guilt, debt, and deep, existential confusion. I later understood that I had inadvertently fallen in an idealize/devalue/discard relationship with a female covert narcissist, everything made sense, and I started working on my own issues (my own codependent traits and need for external validation) that made me a good prey for such behaviors, but for years nothing made absolutely any sense. Funnily enough, I had organically developed all the behaviors mentioned in your video, from the goofy name to separate myself from her judgements, crazy interpretations, and goalpost movings, to giving her no attention or sign of emotion, and most importantly, understanding that she's just a puppet of her ego and I should avoid any kinds of personalization, guilt, projection, or blame. It led me to discover stoicism, and spirituality, and 7 years later I can say that what I am now is a stronger and more grounded version of what I was then, and I have, primarily, learned that there's no such a thing as guilt, or personal doership, and that life never puts an unsurmountable problem before us: just obstacles that help us know and develop ourselves. I wish that this gives hope to anyone going through a similar cycle to mine: it gets better. And you'll be better, thanks to what you're going through. If you need a pointer, search for Alain de Botton , Alan Watts, and Aaron Abke (particularly the mindscience playlist).

Best video on co parenting with a covert narcissist.

I had late stage colon cancer and had just finished six months of chemo when she left and took every penny of saving and took the kids, yet the gas lighting was SO INTENSE AND COMPLETE over all the years, I blamed myself! I begged for forgiveness and for her to come back (even though I’d don’t nothing wrong except get sick and not be able to work).

What's helped me is thinking of her as my own Amber Heard and I try to be as cool as Johnny Depp in the courtroom when speaking with her.

I wish npd was recognized in a court of law. My kids don't want to talk to me anymore and they're two states away 😢 Thank you for these strategies as I'm trying to get to the healing phase.

Sounds like the only way to win is "I can either have full custody or you can. Either works for me, I don't care. Make your choice" At the end of the day... kids aren't fun. Narcissists get bored easily. So go ahead, take them, have fun with that OR give them to me I know how that will turn out. Me with the kids.

I wish I had watched this video 20 years ago when I was struggling alone with my narcissist partner. I didn't know at that time that my partner was dysfunctional and had npd behavior. She had made me believe that I was THE bad guy and I couldn't even figure out that SHE was the abuser. Since then I have struggled a lot with my "coparenting" experience, luckily enough for me we split up quite early after we had our daughter and have lived in different countries since then. The physical distance between us saved my life and my soul, although we still had to tackle with a lot of issues and I still had to engage in the relationship as the father of my daughter. I tried to provide to my daughter the safest environment I could, I realize only since 2 years that I was at that time completely unaware that she was living with a toxic mother. May be that was better for my mental health, I would have felt so guilty had I known what was most likely happening to my daughter in her relationship with her mother. That was meant to be. I learnt alone to deal with such a character and I would resume in : don't react, don't engage emotionally. As you said: (learn to) behave as a robot. I felt so often overwhelmed by this extreme experience, but I feel now grateful as it has built my character and lead me to find a deep inner connection within myself, which I was hugely lacking of when I was younger. That's what the narcissist points out to. Now my daughter is 17, I haven't seen her since one and half years, she's had been convinced by her mother that I am an unworthy and full of flaws father. It's such a pain for me but I keep faith. I found so many hidden resources within me during all theses chaotic years, that's life's reward for such a difficult path. Thank you for all the contents you provide for men and women to acknowledge them and empower them and allow them to deal with more confidence and less shame with such issues. Especially men need to know that female abusers exist, their toxic behavior may not be as easily put into evidence as male toxic behaviors are, but the psychological and emotional violence they perpetuate can cause as much damage in your being and in your life.

My ex wife is an undiagnosed narcissist. Our mediation was done after 4 sessions bc of her crazy demands. The head mediator even gave me a courtesy call a few days after she closed our case. I believe She knew this in a roundabout way and wished me good luck

Adjust your expectations, Big game changer, goes along with Radical acceptance.

I married and had kids with two narcissists. It's extremely difficult. My kids with my first wife are 21 and 18. Unfortunately my 18 year old has chosen to move in with her mom because she let's her do whatever she chooses. My firstborn and youngest is currently living with me and sees what's going on. Having said that I never demean their other parents but I do the best I can to support them. emotionally. It really is a balancing act because the other parents do everything they can to keep them with them but ultimately end up showing their true colors.

Will have my divorce finalized with the narc by end of August. She only has to complete court mandated parenting course by Aug 30. I appreciate the advice very much. Hard to give up my child but she'll be 18 in 16 months and divorce agreement allows her to live with me at any point without court intervention. My attorney did an excellent job with an agreement with a narc. Attoreney knew more than I did about her. Mutual no contact order in the divorce and all communication about our child goes through talking parents app and is recorded. I will follow all this advice.

Lise, a message from a Brazilian Father and University Professor. Thank you very much for the educational videos! You have no idea how what you are saying is helping me. Keep doing it! Love and Respect.

My situation. After six years of bliss she discarded me from the family home after I stood up to her, she'd found new supply and started an affair with a man who looks a LOT like my late father. She has the children 5 & 3y/o. I am going to fight for their custody. I learned the fourth man across her adult life that has had to do so. She has a habit of alienating her own family including her adult daughters. Two of her living exs, and the two adult daughters have rallied to my aid with statements and evidence. I know she's smeared me a lot, I've seen her friends chat logs. Im praying I can get my little children.

This video is so true. My ex-narc has caused 2 CPS cases against me, a social worker case at my daughter’s doctors office, to the tax board for tax fraud and has written many letters to my daughter’s doctor for anything she can to get me in trouble. I’m just lucky that nothing ever sticks due to it being a false claim. Channels like this have really helped me through this horrible co-parent experience

I have friends in this situation and it is so incredibly sad to watch how the children are being used as pawns. It’s difficult to know how to support someone in this situation so thank you for this video. I will be sure to share.

Prayers they do not love their children. I was shocked when he let the new supply damage our son car at his BK job. They are sick protect your babies/ children. My mother was even narccistic and it was brutal. Thank you 💜🙏🙏🙏🙏Remember they want to hurt you and these poor babies 😪are fair game.

I promised myself when I divorced I would never bad mouth my ex to his sons and while they were living with me I never did..I don't know if he felt the same..I had physical custody and he had visitation ....the boys would come home with stories of their Dad that angered and horrified me..He called at 2 am one night and told me to come get your *+×&% kids !..( he lived 100 miles away in a different state..) They won't listen to me!!! I explained to him how I got them to listen..DON'T SWEAR OR ORDER THEM..tell them what the consequence is and let them choose...then carry through..that way your showing respect and value for them and their decision...My middle son wanted to leave at 11:30 pm to meet a friend at the Cafe..I told him. Ok go.. but the house will be locked when you come back and you'll sit on the porch all night until I leave for work...he looked at me for several minutes..then took his jacket off and went to bed..and NO..he didn't sneak out...he understood the consequence.. my ex couldn't comprehend and I'm sure the kids suffered... 30 years after the divorce I discovered my oldest son ..who chose to live and work for his Dad at 18.. has taken on his Dads narcissistic alcoholic personality and after his Dads death has transfered all his anger and resentment on to me and now despises me and refuses to speak to me or his younger brother...You can't MAKE someone love you if they don't and you can't MAKE them stay if they won't...he's an adult and responsible for his own actions and life..there's nothing I'm able to say or do to change him..

This weighs on my mind.. every single night i spend agonizing over wtf i can do to get my kids out of here.

my solution was to take custody and set the rules of the relationship

Thankyou Lise, and especially also for not assuming that the narcissist is the man/father - as so many others do! I am sure the ratio is 50/50 % between men/women. I have a baby daughter with a covert narcissist (the mother). I recognise everything you say here. There is no co-parenting, just separate parenting, and it is absolutely necessary to get the court involved. No other way. The covert narcissist is pure evil. She has no empathy and she uses our daughter as an instrument. It is horrible! But I will do everything to protect my daughter. Thanks for your videos!

OMG, wish I could have talked to you 15 years ago. All the things you are saying to do, it took so much time for me to get there, but I eventually did all the things you are suggesting. To anyone who is in this situation, what this person is saying works, trust me. Do not show the x any emotional responses. I use to get really triggered and type out all the crazy things I wanted to say, then print them out and put them in a folder. When enough time had passed, and I felt like the initial emotional response had passed, I would take out the printed response, read it then trash it. It really helped me to move on and teach self control when it came to emotion with this person.

I’ve been bullied for years . And it’s been sooo difficult to stay quiet. But as time goes on, I’m able to see that arguing back gets me nowhere ! Then I’m left feeling drained all over someone that seems to have no true feelings or compassion. The hardest thing to do is to stay quiet ! Easier said than done . it’s soo worth it tho ! I’m working on it . 😅🤐

Great video. I have been attempting to coparent with a malignant covert female narcissist since 2008. It is impossible. She has almost destroyed both our son and myself. Thank you for bringing awareness of this plague upon humanity.🙏

"The therapist that said my wife was the problem was the one we never had a second appointment with"... of course this happened three different times, with 3 different marriage counselors...she always cut-off those sessions when the light came close and searching on her issues!

I need to tell you that your videos changed my life shuck me awake I'm forever grateful 1 months no contact

First off, I truly appreciate the support and information as grim as it is. I’m currently living in a Rv on our property to have my parenting time or in the attic in the house. It’s not safe in the house around her due to the constant gaslighting, the induced conversations, belittling, minimizing, invalidating, bashing. This has got to be the most horrific experience I’ve ever gone through. I have three children two older and one that’s two we share. The two older children will not come over anymore due to her rage. So I make time outside the house to parent. I have no choice with my youngest. I have her blocked and only go through email. The more I set boundaries the more extreme she gets. Thank you for making the choice to support men. This is a real issue that needs more attention. Your truly appreciated.

This is my favorite video so far that I’ve found on KZfaq, because you are extremely informative and giving us tools that are needed to keep this as peaceful as possible. Every interaction with them is like disarming a bomb. You have to be very precise. I swear this should be considered hazard pay 😂. What I like about this video as well is It’s also genderless and not directed at “getting back” at them. I don’t want to “get back or get even” with them. It took me awhile to realize they are mentally sick. So, I’m going to need to be Consistent and clear headed for my kids. I unfortunately have two kids with my ex so I just want to learn how to deal with them without losing my mind. Thank you so much. I will be sharing this video with some of my close family. Much love❤

Yes this video is especially helpful for men going through situations like this. When you are in it, it so bad you have no idea who you are or what even is going on. At some level you understand all of this but because you have been belittled and denied so much this information needs to be heard by patient and loving people like you. Thank you. And guys, once you go through this though, you can gain the power of discernment and you no longer need to be effected by the covert narcissist's manipulation tactics, or take the bait.

My ex has done everything a narcissist mother and ex can possibly do yet she is still convinced that I am the problem and that *I* am narcissistic. 🤷‍♂ Now this could be my version against hers, but the thing is, the Court, the kids (and the kids' laywers), experts opinion, child protective service...everyone is telling her she needs to stop behaving like she does. Her ex-boyfriend (and the laywer) even reached out to me to see the kids and apologized personally for siding with that horrible person. I keep feeling bad for my kids because they absolutely do not trust their mom and i cant imagine a world not trusting my mother.

The cartoon character, energy bubbles, and grounding kit are very helpful tips.

I am going through this with custody right now my stress level is making me sick

Ms. Leblanc, thank you so much for this video. This is spot on. You're not being pessimistic, you're being honest. It is absolutely true. It's as if you had been following my divorce case. I only wish I had known this back in 2017. The divorce case is still open. She is doing NOTHING that the court has required. My son was old enough to move back in with her in 2020, unfortunately. My daughter has been with me since March of 2017 full time. She is 15 now and a very well behaved, good person. I am remarried and happy and my ex-wife is still absolutely obsessed with trying to ruin my life. I was writing everything down in a calendar during the heat of the divorce and in one day, during work hours, she text me 165 times, in one day.

If you are here, thank God you made it this far. I spent years thinking my natural faults were all our problems. Then I started to feel like the umbrella. Like why am I catching it all? Almost 20 years later, I learned to better myself and noticed the person I parent with isn't. Then the therapy and self help started by myself. Now I know I'm dealing with a person who never had good intentions because it was never in her. My faults fed hers and as long as I didn't better myself, she always had a reason to be mean spirited naturally. It validated her ill will. Now we co parent and I'm getting better at quietly playing my role without speaking as much because that's where she disturbs the peace on purpose.

Thanks Doc, I didn't realise this is what my ex is. She gets to me hard, kids caught in the middle and she does all she can to use my kids as weapons. I need healing and will look into the strategies and tactics to make life better. Thanks.

its a heartbreaking battle everyday. I filed for divorce to save my children. full stop.

Once I learned what my ex was, preempting her behavior was much easier so I had more time to come up with strategies to deal with her. She backed off but every now and then it’s as though she tests me to see if time off from her behavior has made me drop my guard. It’s been 4 years now and she still does this. They are relentless.

All valid points.. I had to discover the hard way.

Thank you so much for this video I have been dealing with the co-parent for 6 years. Your tips really do work it took me 3 years of therapy to get to a healthy place for my kids and I.

You have the same mask has the Narc has. You know how to make it, you know how to not care. You had the best teacher. Put it on just for them, don't hate that shows you value them. Embrace indifference to save yourself, remember who you were before they broke you. Find where exactly where, you left you behind.

I have so much built-up resentment toward her for the years that she spent manipulating the situations and turning me into the perceived bad guy, that I sometimes catch myself venting to my adolescent children and warning them not to do what she has done.... then, after catching myself, as well as watching these videos, I wonder if I am also a narcissist...

SO TRUE! Wish I heard this 15 years ago. 🤔

It's so refreshing to hear how much she cares while she talks

I can TOTALLY relate to this! My son's mom, her mom, her sisters and her grandma are SUPREME NARCISSISTS! Anytime my son is around his Grandma from his mom's side, his Grandma ALWAYS has a negative comment to say about me to my son, like "your dad is an idiot and he's slow", "he doesnt know how to drive", "he has no job", etc. I can care less what they say to me amongst her family, but amongst my son, OH HELL NAH! I know they're purposely trying to paint me as a lazy, jobless, no income person which is all lies. I don't give them access to my success. I keep my personal life private from them because I know they'll try to take anything and everything from me. Thank god my son is not vacuous and understands why they say bad things about me and try to undermind me and belittle me. Thankfully my son defends me. I unconditionally love my son. Whats funny is my son's mom had another kid with her current "husband" and she cheated on him with a co worker from her job. My son's mom has seen i few glimpse of my progress and success in life and she's been trying to give me those I want your attention and affection" gaze, but i dont even look at her at all. I don't respect, as the kids say nowadays, 304s. She and her family can go to hell.

It’s a relief to hear all this. You’re describing the approach I’ve come to organically over the last 3 years but so many of my friends can’t understand why I’m not being more aggressive with my kids dad. I wish that I was able to encourage him to be reasonable and co-parent responsibly, with our boys at the centre of everything, but it’s never gonna happen. Best I can do is nurture a safe, engaging, healthy space for them in my home.

They always look at faults in others, even love putting diagnosis on their own kids without seeking professional advice in order to control them also and recieve indirectly teraphy for themselves.

What kind of sick person can hurt her children, manipulate them, incite them against the other parent all this and much more with only one intent - hurt other parent. SICK, SICK, TWISTED individuals.

thank you, soooooo much for that video. Your video is the story of my life since I got divorced, 11 years ago. It really is HELL. No one understood me, but I actually did exactly as you say. Every one saw me as the bad guy, teachers, socialworkers, and so on. You just can not explain, the un-explainable to people. Fortunately, the strategi that you descripe, and that i have used, works. Still. To this day, I know, that I would not have believed any one with my story. In so many ways it explains why this problem is so difficoult to resolve. Its not that people dont listen or trries to understand. They simply can not understand.

My wife bullied me for months,than she kicked me out of the house. Before that she cleaned our saving account, and called the cops on me. Was not enough, she also contacted my job and wanted to destroy my image. Now I'm 43 and i had to go back to my mom's house. The only reason that I have still energy are my kids.

This is me 😥 Thank you so much for the guidance. I am already doing some of the strategies you mention but I will now look at incorporating some more. I am also seeing a counsellor which does cost money, but it is probably the best investment I have ever made in myself. Thank you, GB

You are absolutely right, unfortunately. I strongly suggest to ONLY communicate via a parenting platform, like Talking Parents. All communication is definite, unchangeable and can be used in court as is. You can find any subject in the complete PDF file when searching for a word. It saves so much time and energy! They may even watch their words, but in my case, he doesn’t, which is perfect to show the constant personal attacks, inconsistency and what not. Only respond to children’s logistics, all else “crickets”. Disengage from the personal stuff, discuss children only. My ex is actually retreating more and more, canceling timesharing, because he can’t get to me. And our children are becoming more and more aware of his toxic behavior, not wanting to see him anymore. I wish everyone who is dealing with this strength and wisdom. Your tips on this video are priceless, very on point and helpful.

Wow, you are great. When you talked about giving him a character name. That is hilarious because I did that years ago and thought I was crazy. I even found clips in the movie that made me laugh. Toxic Ex - Hades from Hercules and the enabler was Nikko the flying monkey from Wizzard of Oz

I have to co-parent with a narcissist. Unfortunately I have the misfortune of co-parenting with someone who would be living 75 miles away and would rather my daughter live at her grandmas with her from tues afternoon to say morning. She also has shown countless times to ignore any custody orders or to take the carseat or to jump into my car ect ect ect. And in each instance over the years the sheriff in various towns have told me outright that it’s a matter for family law. They have no interest in helping or lifting a finger. Unfortunately you can’t do much with family court unless you can prove instances. And beyond having some texts it’s not like you have much power in these instances. So I’ve ended up just allowing her to live with me and I get to have my daughter here all week and most weekends. It can be hell to deal with at times, but there are some silver linings. Things like, having my daughter most of the time since her mom ends up napping or doing other things when she gets out of school. And i have a chance to see how she interacts with my daughter and course correct when I feel that it might be something my daughter needs to understand. While it totally sucks, I am hopeful that it ought get better in a few years when my daughter is old enough to understand and I can hopefully figure a plan out to get some distance and have my own life back, while ensuring that my daughter doesn’t have to suffer from a toxic environment. It’s not great but it’s the best I can do

Thank you for the video, wish I would have figured this out 14 years ago!

This is so true thank you for sharing this, my x has used our child against me and abused and played the court so much and got away with a-z, to the point I had to manage my sanity over fight with her over and over, sad but true the courts did Not care what she did period. I feel for my child and there was no way around her control issues. Im sad I gave up on her bs not my child. Im helpless.

Gosh 8 months ago wife left robbed me of my little girl. Manipulated me to go to counseling that she would join yet she never did. Instead she secretly filed for divorce and used my going to therapy as a reason for her to get full custody. I got 9 hours a week. Sadly the court gave her this power and made her more controlling. It’s like a nightmare and I have been a mess without my girl. I don’t understand how co parenting without communication can even happen.

#5 😆😄 I love all your advice in this video,wish I had seen it years ago when I needed it.I had naturally applied them in my situation,by the time you got to 5,I couldn't help but laugh because this was definitely a must for me,never called her that out loud,just made it her contact name. 😂 Again,tbh,these things were what I did naturally,like you stated,just for peace of mind,I didn't care how she twisted the narrative (as she often did),and,like you stated,she always blew up at me even though her life was on better grounds,she had new relationship,kid,home,made more money,etc,while I was just trying to pick myself up with what little dignity I had left and carry on. This video really hit home,glad I watched it.

The advice about substituting a cartoon persona and saving “energy bubble” is really powerful and really practical. You’re very good.

Like many here - thank you for this video, it is valuable to all us parallel parenting with a narcissist... My ex is using more weapons than Vladimir Putin, including access refusal under a pretense of covid safety (in 2023), false accusations of racism and abuse in court and she moved across the other side of the country without any notice, refusing to disclose her address. But then like you said non of this is a surprise and is what makes a narcissist a narcissist. But when it comes to battling for the betterment of my daughters future I can assure you Putin will not have enough ammo for this fight!

I am a single dad and this I had to figure out all alone for I find it humiliating what I still have to sometimes go through .

Wow, this video hits close to home for so many co-parents out there. Coparenting can be a challenge on its own, but when you're dealing with a narcissist, it can feel impossible. This video offers valuable insights on how to navigate the situation, with 10 practical tips for surviving parallel parenting. If you're in this situation, I highly recommend checking it out.

My God! You are so accurate. I'm sure everybody is watching your video, thinking: this is exactly it! THANK YOU. It is actually a relief to see that their paterns/modus operandis are basically kind of universal in the narcissists'world. And we, the prey, the victims, whatever we call us, are not crazy (but they may made us become crazy). THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Thank you for creating this video. I needed to hear all of this at this moment.

Thank you for these videos.

Thank you, this was really helpful❤🙏

You are helping a lot ❤

Appreciate your videos so much. Thank you.

This is worth more than gold, thank you!

This was all very helpful. Thanks

This video might be a life saver for right now....I am going through hell right now with my narcissistic ex...she is using the our child to punish me...not letting the kid visit his father at all despite his crying and my prayers to her....she is just trying to destroy our relationship... taking advantage of a corrupted judge that approved an illegal decision.... there' s no visiting program for me ..even if the custody is together....as she is extremely jealous that our son prefers his father....Of course I sued her..and appealed against the decision ....and now we are waiting to see what is happening while I m trying my best to survive...

Excellent advice and analysis. I lived this. You are 100% spot on.

hats off to you! you speak a lot of wisdom and truth

Thank you for being so realistic and offering practical ways to deals with these troubled souls.

Excellent video!!!

All your advices match perfectly! Family courts should be instructed that co-parenting really is impossible with narcissists. I'd like to add one important point from my personal experience: Sincere real empathy! Narcissists don't have it, but children urgently need it. It is essential! My ex overwhelmed our only son with extreme attention, superficial love and pretending to be a super-mum, but it couldn't replace real empathy even when he was very young. It was for her but not for him - and he would feel it even at a very young age. The more she manipulated us and the more she finally attacked one of us, the more she unconsciously pushed him into my arms. Today, he lives with me and refuses any contact to her since being a teenager.

YOU CAN WIN …🤔 Walk away and never ever LOOK 👀 Back, GO NO CONTACT…Get On with your LIFE …

Thank you. I an similar to the most liked comment in this thread, and this provides so much confirmation, which I find really sad, but have finally found strength.

Thank you for this

Please keep posting this material. So much of what is discussed here IS SPOT ON! ❤

Spot on, ESPECIALLY about phone contact. If you really think about it, who is really reaching out to who? You can cut out like 95% of unnecessary contact and dialogue with this person and have so much more freedom.

This video was truly amazing. Thank you so much. It was incredibly uplifting. I'm not alone in this.

Wow. She is reading my life. Thank you so much for this video. I’m not alone.

I needed this thank you

I did let my child go as I could see where things were headed especially being the male

Thank you so much, Dr. Lise! My son's in an emotional trap with a young woman who fits your behavioral descriptions perfectly. She uses their child to compel him to serve her needs. Is there a strategy for dealing with this kind of emotional blackmail?

Thank you very much this is very helpful

Thank you for this video. I will definitely apply what you've taught me

This helped me sooo much. Thank you. I’m going to start this asap

Very good advice!