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As Watch Wes Work calls it, the 5.4 Hand Grenade with the Change Engine light on.

this is basically like watching open heart surgery - massive respect to the mechanics that can do things like this!

I love watching a competent, honest mechanic work his craft.

only 1 minute into the video, but had to leave a comment that this will be fun to watch! I just completed my timing job on my '08 expedition with the 5.4 3v engine literally last week, it was a huge job to undertake and in my dirt driveway next to my RV none the less, but I got 'er done. new timing chains, guides, phasers, all 24x roller followers, camshafts, oil pump ( melling ), serp belt, spark plugs, ignition coils, I even went the extra mile and bought the Melling cast iron tensioners and kept the plastic new ones in storage. I followed the FordTechMakuloco video series to the T, with the ford timing kit from amazon, and boy she purrs like a kitten now. I did have broken guide pieces at the bottom of the timing cover and also a big chunk inside of the oil pan, also the seal was blown on both tensioners. it was very expensive to do, probably about 3,500$ in parts and tools, but you know what - I have a lot more tools now than I did before, and i'm driving my expy smiling knowing that I saved her life and also know that I did the job carefully and with a crap load of brand new shiny parts! she drives really good now.

Can we just appreciate how he can do so many things one handed?!

Videos like this give me a true appreciation for why it costs as much as it does to replace a timing chain. This is no small amount of work, plus the cost of the tools involved.

@rainmanraysrepairs this popped up in my feed today so thought I'd leave an update. Engine now has 189000+ miles on it and has been from Sarasota to SC, NV, MT, ID and back across the country to CT...all pulling a 2013 Charger on a uhaul vehicle hauler. Can't thank you enough for all the work you did...my family is grateful.

Raymond, my good man, you are indeed a "ROCKET SURGEON"!

Some people say - put the better high volume pump in it - well that isn't always the answer and here is why The cause is how the oil flow design in the upper end of this engine is - feeds from one driver side which is typically always clean and the passenger which typically looks dirty - pcv circulation here is poor as well and causes alot of the discoloration as well ( I forget what side gets darker or oil flow first but you get the point here ). The fix is more service more often and a decent flush every couple months - like BG EPR - AND KEEPING SOME Mmo in the oil The newer pump will help but there are other steps that are more critical that are more important ** a huge thing with these after doing this job is to not use cheap aftermarket parts ** Be very careful when putting the valve covers back on because if you slightly nick the vct timing leg / finger you'll get correlation codes when done

Ray, the quality of your videos, the editing, and the inclusion of up-close views are all top-notch in your videos. You are doing a great job and I am getting addicted to your content!

Holy Moly! Batman, I mean Ray. That customer is lucky it's you doing the work.

The more i watch of this channel, the more I feel like my Nissan Juke was a super easy project car to rip from the scrapyard.

What a PITA.. I've done several timing chains on my own cars over the years but none on the newer models. Ford should be ashamed of themselves for that mess. Good job Ray!

Absolutely incredible! IMHO, your best video yet. From someone who can just about manage to refuel, check oil, coolant and washer fluid levels, and occasionally inflate a tyre, this blows my mind. I find it totally absorbing. Your knowledge, patience and skills are inspirational. I have no idea what a job like this would cost the customer, or how much you would get paid to do it, but whatever it is, it’s not enough! All KZfaq videos should aspire to this standard.

I owned a 5.4L in a 2006 Navigator, had purchased the timing set from Ford but never put it in. At 219K Miles, I was talked in to selling the vehicle (which I've already regretted. It's the BEST towing vehicle I've ever driven.) The only time I had problems was when the coil packs started going bad (around 180K) but those were pretty easy fixes. At 190K I replaced them all and changed all of the plugs (I paid good money for the Lysle Broken Plug tool, which insured that I wouldn't break any. I didn't.). We own another 5.4L 3V in a 2013 Expedition that we bought about a year ago. It's the first time I ever bought a vehicle warranty, and it covered anything that the oil touches. It paid off. Two weeks after we purchased the vehicle, the timing chains started slapping and had a knock in the lower end of the engine (@ 112K miles). The warranty not only covered it, but the local Ford Dealer installed a brand new, complete Ford Engine that I got to break in and do the oil changes as I prefer. I did the first at 500 miles, the second at 3K, and the next and from now on at 4-5K miles (5W-20 Motorcraft Synthetic Blend, of course.), like I did with the Navigator, and it had nowhere near the varnish build up that the engine in this video has. The only thing that I really don't like about this engine is at the gas pump. The Expedition is Flex-Fuel, we burn Regular and get an average of 16-17 combined mpg, whereas the Navigator ran 91 Octane and got 15-17 average combined mpg. The Navigator was a good deal "Quicker", though, and that 5.4L 3V turned it into 3 tons of fun, would pass durn near anyone and it was really cool towing a camper up a mountain with the cruise on and passing all of those little rice burners that had passed me on level ground. Really, other than regular maintenance, I've not had to do much in the line of repairs on the 5.4L 3V at all. Now, my brother-in-law had one with high mileage that was running just fine and, for some wild reason, decided to switch from 5W-20 (that is recommended) to 10W-30. The engine didn't last two weeks after that.

YOU'RE TELLING PETEY NOT TO SAY A CUSS WORD WHILE KID ROCK IS PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND-HILARIOUS.

I stumbled onto your channel by accident and am glad I did. I applaud the diagnostic logic you employ. This applies to the use of the scan tool mainly. But, I've seen you use it to isolate problems (sensor/wiring/computer module). My 6 years in the US Navy (4 at sea) as an ET, I learned much from senior techs and passed my knowledge to newer techs later on. Bravo sir!!!

Ford has updated the roller rockers with smaller oiling holes and at a different angle for more direct oil flow on the cam lobes, also any other phaser but oem will come apart. Plus melling HV340 oil pump upgrade adds 20% more volume. Fords also updated the gasket on the tensioners as well. Great video as always.

You are a brave man… due to previous jobs, all I recommend now is a reman engine. Doing just chains never solves the problem.

What a nightmare... I'm feeling anxiety, but I can't look away, kudos to your skill and patience

The valve tool @$220 was well worth the money Ray. There’s so much more working modern car engines, no winder maintenance costs are high. Great job so far. Much respect from a old spanner man.

You're a good sport, there's no way I would have done that job ,without pulling the motor.

Man, this video gives me flashbacks to the 5.4 I had that I done plugs, followers, lifters, and phasers on

My mechanic told me sternly DO NOT BUY A 5.4 3v and what did I do? I bought a 5.4 3v and I am very close to having him do this exact job to mine. Can’t stress enough use ONLY Ford timing components in these engines or they will fail. I’ve removed my valve covers a few times now and just that job I wanted to burn the truck. I give you a lot of credit for not refusing this job 👍. You definitely got a tappy tap on the like button for this.

I know of 3 people at work that have had this same repair done on their f150. One told me the quote was almost $3400 for the job. I really appreciate the videos Ray. I used to turn wrenches but went another direction in my career. Joe

I always thoroughly enjoy your videos. Watching them should be mandatory for a customer who complains about the amount of time charged for labor.

I work on our tractor, just a bit, but I curse a whole lot more than you do while wrenching. You're a better man than I am.

Open " heart " surgery!! So much work involved. You are the man Ray !! Wish I could send my 06 Volvo "EV"90 V8 for valve cover gaskets. [Exxon Valdez]

Absolutely love your videos ray, I have never owned one of those because I heard about all of the awful things that happened to them and definitely decided to steer clear of that I love watching you work I love how organized you are how detailed you are and I love your sense of humor looking forward to part 2 and part 3! Will be here eagerly waiting hope you also remember to have yourself a good day! Peace out! ~Loyal fan from Fort Worth Texas

I’ve done this before on my 05 F150 and the passenger side is an absolute beast to remove. Getting it back on and keeping the gaskets in place is also a bear. You will probably find this job very frustrating.

The Car Wizard's favorite engine.

Ray, you are living the life I wanted to live. After going down a different path at 59 years of age I regret every minute of it. Keep yourself strong. This job will ruin your body. Keep up the good work

I agree with Ray on what he says in the video "This won't happen on a GM engine" on a GM engine it would just bend push rods and collapse lifters from AFM and DFM systems they both have there problems

The disassembly went very well. Hopefully the reassembly will run just as smoothly.

'06 Expedition. Started hearing the clatter for a second on startup about 110k miles. Did a complete timing job replacing everything except the oil pump with Ford Motorcraft OEM parts. Installed a new Melling M340HV oil pump, and since the valve covers were off I went ahead and replaced the roller followers too. Put it all back together, and upped the oil weight to 5w-30 full synthetic. That was about 20k miles ago, and I gotta say, this motor runs as smoothly as it did the day I drove it home. Shout out to FordTechMakuloco for suggesting the Melling oil pump and roller follower swap.

Watching you work makes my back aching 😂

I got the 5.4 2V it's a champ, runs great at 340,000 miles. The only reason I haven't gotten a newer truck is the whole 3 Valve catastrophe, Ford's motto I guess was if it's not broke, fix it until it is. Great video.

That's gona be an expensive repair! Impressed with your abilities to squeeze into the engine bay!

Upon reassembly and setting the timing, don't forget to make a "set phasers to run" joke. You're welcome! Live the videos Ray.

the most underappreciated person doing this honestly and successfully

You should talk the customer into the high flow oil pump. That is one of the causes of roller/follower, timing chain, phaser failure. Definitely take a look at fordmakuloco channel. He is the man when it comes to the 5.4 3v. I do have that motor in my 06 f150. I have been lucky so far with mine. It only has 150,000 mi. This job is the most common issue, besides the spark plugs, for the 5.4. And will be doing it here before long.

I had a 2005 F-150 that got the rattle around 150K. I knew it was something in the valve train and toyed with the idea of doing it myself, and after watching a number of you-tube videos I was convinced I *could* do it. I would probably need to take a week off work. Decided to take it to a local garage. They did it in 2 days. It was worth the price (ended up being a broken tensioner).

What a job! It kind of reminds me of an Audi RS6 my daughters partner was working on doing the same type of repair. To do that you had to remove the whole front of the car. Not so bad if you are in a dealership. A bit more awkward if you are in an ordinary professional garage. Very awkward if you are doing this in your own home garage. But he did his in the street outside his house. It was a task and a half! But he is the most thorough person I know, and he breezed it. Well done for such a great video.

I totally can't wait for Freevalve technology to take a bite!

I worked for the company that produced the special machines that machined the heads for Ford. We did all the machining like the valve seats, all the flat surfaces and all the bolt holes. I remember that this equipment was produced to handle more than the 5.4. It also did the V 10 as well. Called flex machining.

Ok, nightmare job to be sure. Still amazes me as to how you just plunge into a job like this. Pulling bits off left right and centre. Nuts bolts flying every which way. But at the end of the day still know where each bit goes.Totally amazes me l certainly would not know where to start.Frightening really. But it show’s your vast knowledge of engines etc. Great vid , entertaining as always. Great work Ray . Definitely makes my day watching you at work. Totally fearless and dedicated. Which brings me to reminding you to have a great day. Back ache and all😃😃👍🇬🇷

Nice, the Hot Rod TV style montage with the music and everything!

8:43 into this before the first doo doo dee doo! And you called it out. I love it!

My back aches just watching you do this job. How on earth do you keep track of all the bits and pieces when you go to reassemble? I guess that is why you are the pro.

Wow Ray. Back breaking work for sure! Great video as always. Much appreciated. Some day someone will make an engine that is on slide rails that unscrew from the frame with quick disconnect from the Transmission etc.

Completely agree with Perry Hampson! Your videos are so amazing. Thank you for sharing!!

Your videos are the highlight of my bus ride home. Thanks for all of it. I tap tap tapped my subscribe button a while ago.

Amazing job! I could probably take it apart but I’d never get it back together again. Lol

My wife had a 2007 Expedition with the 5.4 Triton for 10 years. I liked that engine, never had a problem. If I had to complain, it would be the spark plugs in the back, they are tucked under the firewall. Other than that, it was a reliable SUV. I think I got 125K+ miles out of it. If it wasn’t totaled by hail, we would still have it.

Wow this guy was lucky this engine didn't go bang nice one Ray 👍

Hi ray I I think you are so smart I watch every day Iean so much my name is Thomas Krakowski I live in Saint Paul Minnesota thank you your friend tom

"How do you keep track of all the fasteners?" The classic question asked of us mechanics. It's really quite simple. You put them all in a container, or you distribute them all around the lips on the quarter guards, the arms of the hoist, and all over the bench. Then when you're finished re-assembling the vehicle, generally there's none left. On occasion, there's an extra bolt, and when you see it, you know where it came from by it's shape and size alone. If it's an important one, (like a bell housing bolt, or a sub frame bolt, something REALLY serious like a brake caliper bolt) you put the vehicle back in the air and put it in it's hole. If it's the second bolt for a shitty little bracket that holds a harness with two wires in it and nothing else (that you had to fight with and lost skin while removing it from the back of the cylinder head while leaning over the hot engine with your tongue hanging out, blind and on one leg with one eye shut and only able to get 1/32nd of a turn without repositioning your spanner) you throw it over your shoulder and continue on to the next rust bucket.

First, loved the video. Second, yes, I own two of them. Third, it's a Ford. Serviceability sucking is built in (And I'm a Ford guy through and through).

The Ford expedition is one of my favorite vehicles and its cool to see you work on one.

Wow! What a job!!! Got the right man on it!

I've done this repair. It is easier to remove the cams and remove the followers that way. Since you are doing the timing chain as well especially.

The unpredictability of this problem is scary too. I’ve worked on oil-field trucks with 250,000 miles, and innumerable idle hours that still hadn’t had this issue, but I’ve done this job (or replaced the engine) on vehicles with less than 60,000 miles.

man this channel gets me excited to go to work, and its a sunday... idk whats wrong with me

Finally a job worthy of your expertise!

The way you was sitting on the radiator support defiantly makes you feel older that's for sure. I miss the older vehicles like from the 80s and back when I could actually sit in the engine compartment

Just had this done on wife's 2011 expedition. Had oil pump upgraded to high flow while I was in there. 2200 in labor and 1700 in parts. But cheaper than a new engine for sure, or new vehicle. Hopefully I'll get another 140k out of it!

Enjoyed this video. I owned a new 2004 F-150 Lariat with the 3v engine. Did not change the plugs until I had 160000 miles on it due to the potential to break off plugs. Once I got the tool (version 3) to remove a broken plug I ended up breaking 7 of 8 plugs following Fords recommended procedure. At 209000 miles I started to hear the timing chain noises. Bit the bullet and got rid of it in 2021. Still loved my F-150 and babied and took care of it. Feel lucky it lasted 17 years with very few problems. Now I have a Tacoma 2.7 L. Probably out live me.

I love your attention to details. You don't just pull a part and swap it out. You examine them to find out why they stopped working they way they were designed. Great work and keep it up. You are a credit to mechanics.

Every shop needs a "petey". I was there once. Started out as a floor sweeper, trash gatherer, parts chaser, etc. Asked questions of the mechanics, watched them work, learned theory of carburetors, brakes, wheel alignment , generator and regulator operation. All aspects of vehicle operation and maintenance.

If customer plans on keeping it, I recommend a Melling high flow oil pump. Keep up the great work Ray

Ain't no way in hell I could keep everything together without lose shit. Ray is masterclass 👌

It’s amazing, just as I thought “Topside Creeper” you added the insert

I would have loved to heard the scraping sound it was making. Sound like VERY useful information for any or the poor SOB's that might own one of these rigs. I'm sure they would love to save their engine if possible.

Ohhh a 40min video... Give me a sec I'mma go grab some snacks 😂

The booger picker is one of those tools that saves the day and takes out the followers.

Oh thank you. You answered by earlier question about keeping track of fasteners!

Ford should be held accountable for this repair, they have known about this design flaw for quite some time!

Great work as always Ray. Vehicles these days are getting too complicated. I own a Camaro with a LS3 due to the lack of DOD lifters and the presence of a Manual transmission.

Great video and awesome music. Keep doing what we do. From a 63 year old fan!!

Lol. I like Pete. He's quite the character xD I also love these more internal engine repair videos

Very educational and your humor is most uplifting!

Bookmarking this video because I have a 5.4 Triton

So Ray, do you look forward to the chance to focus on one long highly involved job like this, or do you prefer to work on a number of smaller jobs in the same timespan? Seems like both options have their pluses and minuses. And I wonder if Peetah realizes how much joy he brings to 301,000 people he doesn't know when he pays you a visit :)

Please forgive if this is a silly question from a back yard mechanic .. since you have the fiddly job to remove the followers needing special tools and your plan is to replace the chains etc as well, would it not be simpler to remove the cams themselves? I would have thought this would allow inspection of the cam seats as well plus be easier/quicker to do without the special tool needed. Im guessing this would make it more complicated in another way but curious as to why you choose the fiddly path.

Looking forward to re-assembly of the engine! This is nerve-wracking , especially with the "head-banging music playing! Thanks for posting!

That customer needs to B called and told to buy a lottery ticket.. U saved a lot of money for that person...good call.good man.good job!🥶🐲

Curious as to why you spent so long removing the rockers before removing the chain, would it not be faster to lift the cams after removing the chains etc and removing all the rockers at the same time?

What does this procedure cost to have done for those that have this engine besides expensive? Also, great job by the way!

Awesome job Ray looking forward to the reassembly

Awsome video! That customer for sure got to you just in time. Be sure to give them kudos for catching it and bringing it in.

Serviceability huh? I think if it were me, and there was no compelling reason not to, I'd slap in a new water pump, since you've done all the work to get to it.

All that debris and dust landing on the cams makes a good case for keeping the engine clean over the years. Or for a good wash and scrub to be part of this service...

I've never watched service on this type of engine. Wow... Thanks for sharing Mr. Ray!

This repair is in the stratosphere in complexity and sucking up time. Good job Ray !

I have no knowledge of this engine, apart from KZfaq, so I can say with certainty that whatever actions Ray carries out will be correct/incorrect/useless/necessary but above all triggering. 😂🤣😂

I've always been vocal lately on how incredibly poor Ford has been the past decade. If you own a 3 valve Triton, 150k is about all you'll get. Ford has been making cars longer than anyone else and no one does a worse job at it. Never again will I own one.

Thank you for this video, it's rather timely. I have a 5.4 3V coming up this week, it'll be my first of those & it's for the same issue. Watching this gives me pointers!

Cam Follower Boogie! Love that song. Sounds like a Lynyrd Skynyrd instrumental.

Good video. Wish the mechanic who worked on my valve train 5 weeks ago had been half as good. He found a damaged spring on an exhaust valve in my 6.7 Cummins Limited RAM 3500 dually (only 57,000 miles onit), 6 days and 126 miles after installing new lifter, spring ,retainers etc on it it dropped that valve. The dealership are currently installing a new engine, under warranty. A total pain in the arse.