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DA Talk: Flemeth (Age, Vengeance, and Purpose for Dragon Age: Inquisition)

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10 жыл бұрын

Flemeth: Asha'bellanar, the Witch of the Wilds, old hag who talks too much.
Question: What is Flemeth's role in Inquisition?
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@zeea6561
@zeea6561 10 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing. I really, really enjoy them. Thanks for helping keep my excitement alive right up to the release of Inquisition~
@TA3DArtist
@TA3DArtist 10 жыл бұрын
The reason she had Hawke carry the amulet that held a piece of Flemmeth's soul is because she expected to be killed by the Warden in DA1 (which means she can be killed). I think Flemmeth is going to be a villain in the end but one that we may have a hard decision about killing.
@marcothegreatpowerful6483
@marcothegreatpowerful6483 10 жыл бұрын
I hope Kate Mulgrew plays Flemeth for every dragon age to come. I love her voice overs. I also hope in the near future Flemeth can be a companion =D
@Miandey
@Miandey 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ash, i do love getting an insight and new impulses from your videos!
@ReyvateilReploid
@ReyvateilReploid 10 жыл бұрын
Probably over commented but I suspect that Flemeth is an Old God, or has a soul of an Old God like Morrigan's child, it's the most likely theory.
@dricsi07
@dricsi07 10 жыл бұрын
Not bad. But what if she want to become an Old GOD. Think abouth it we know that she can posess other humans so easiest way rais a doughter and when a blight came send her with the wardens. And hope for that she will get bed with 1 of them. Tan remake the word ,makeing a ..........BIG CHANGE if you will.
@ReyvateilReploid
@ReyvateilReploid 10 жыл бұрын
O.O Yes I can see that, a very interesting theory!
@scott_money3543
@scott_money3543 10 жыл бұрын
she is an old god when u go on the mission to get her book and after morrigan reads the book looks very scared becuase of what she fond out and thats why she ran away.
@duckslapper12
@duckslapper12 10 жыл бұрын
That would explain why he knew about the Dark Ritual. but if so, who did the ritual before?
@BlondeNordic
@BlondeNordic 10 жыл бұрын
It would make a lot of sense since she is no human no abomination and yet she is very powerful so that would leave an old god because she sees things to come the way no other has done. She has involved her self in so many events i am sure that some we do not even know about yet...
@gyutarosan5311
@gyutarosan5311 10 жыл бұрын
I believe Flemeth is Dumat the dragon of silence and Archdemon of the first blight which predated the chantry and explains how she knows of the dark ritual since she was born from it, it also explains why Dumat has a sort of presence in the world of Thedas as evidenced by the DA 2 Legacy quest "The Altar of Dumat" giving a reward when you complete the ritual of dumat and Corypheus gaining power whenever he pleads to Dumat to grant him strength. As for the "being born in the towers age" thing it could simply be the result of her making her presence known or her being born from the blood of her sacrificed daughters and being noticed by accident. What do you guys think?
@Silenthitman44
@Silenthitman44 10 жыл бұрын
@Ras 144 There's some big problems with that considering the devs ruled out her being a human, an abomination, a malficuar, a demon since both Morrigan and Fenris confirm this. The ogb is only male and any ogb will only be male aswell since the old gods are only male. Whatever Flemeth is will be revealed in DAI.
@jodieburnside2868
@jodieburnside2868 10 жыл бұрын
frewwm87 Old gods are only male, but perhaps Flemeth is a vessel for the old god? the same way as a demon is held in a human vessel, an abomination, or the same way as Anders holds Justice? The story Morrigan believes is a spirit and demon helped her out of that prison, perhaps she struck a deal to have power to get out in exchange for holding the old god? perhaps even helping return the old gods to power, explaining why she struck the deal to have the dragons raised? The old god baby will be an old god, but as morrigan said when explaining the ritual that the old god she wants is not the corrupted one that is the archdemon, but the untainted old god soul... perhaps flemeth wanted to teach morrigan that ritual so that istead of simply killing the old god, it was to free that old god of that corruption? An archdemon wants havock, but an old god would be cunning... perhaps its too return the old gods to power again, but thats just my thought... oh sorry im ranting again :P
@TwinklesTheChinchilla
@TwinklesTheChinchilla 10 жыл бұрын
It would not surprise me at all if Flemeth were to be merely an aspect of the Creator. Her knowledge only seems bound by narrative convenience, (after ME3 I am wary of Bioware's willingness to accept plot holes), and her capacity to engineer events supports this. Her age is also unknowable and she is clearly not bound by the need to inhabit fresh bodies, as was suggested in Origins. Then there is the issue of Sandal and Bodahn, and their overly convenient relationship to people affected by Flemeth...
@mamadobenk
@mamadobenk 10 жыл бұрын
how about dragon cultish? the dragon didnt attack them in story and they think the high dragon is their propet, even so, if there is no connection between them, the dragon wont acknowledge them and still attacking. Or maybe its simply blood magic?
@drowned3
@drowned3 10 жыл бұрын
This theory o yours makes sense; we have to consider DA mythology is a recreation of our own worldwide culture, thereby God is considered as an absolute who is in every single form of life (in this world and the others) -Flemmeth is a remarkable shapeshifter, so there's an aspect of the Maker herself in order to accomplish a proposal to the world and its beings.
@cfalde
@cfalde 10 жыл бұрын
"is it coincidence or fate....I can never decide" She then gives you some information and offers a warning to Merrel and condolences to the Champion. This and her actions in DAO suggest that 1) she can see the future and it's possibilities 2) that through something even she isn't clear on she seems to be presented with opportunities to nudge the future toward a specific outcome. 3) is like Mab in the dresden files and is playing a VERY long game.
@ulrocks23
@ulrocks23 10 жыл бұрын
My guess is a mix of #1 and #3
@cfalde
@cfalde 10 жыл бұрын
***** given the events of Cold Days in the Dresden 'verse, I wonder if Flemeth is keeping a bigger bad at bay.
@mobius1b470
@mobius1b470 10 жыл бұрын
Well in the lore it is established that the old gods of the Imperium were Dragons of great power and cunning. I suspect that Flemeth is one of these seven old gods. It would explain many of her motivations including sending Morrigan with the Grey Wardens to save the soul of the Archdemon. Also it would explain why she is waking Dragons throughout Thedas and why she's would say she is older than the chantry. Also if chantry doctrine is to be belived her motivation is to seek vengeance against the Maker for imprisoning her at some point in history.
@Beowulf_DW
@Beowulf_DW 10 жыл бұрын
I have two wild theories regarding Flemeth. The first is that she is Andraste. Many of the stories of Flemeth and Andraste are strangely similar, you just have to change the timing. Both were said to have raised armies, both have mysterious powers due to contact with an eldritch patron, and if we assume that Andraste wanted revenge on the Imperium they both have an initial motivation that could embitter them. Considering her ability to "come back to life" by transporting pieces of herself, Andraste's pyre would have presented little obstacle for her. Anyone remember the quest for the Urn of Sacred Ashes? Perhaps Andraste/Flemeth was revived there (which, btw would help explain the cult's reverence for dragons, no?). After this revival, she looked on in horror as the faith she had initially spread was warped into a tool of oppression. Now, like an artist disgusted with her own work, Flemeth seeks to destroy the Chantry, and complete the change to the world that she began as Andraste.
@moiravoss7019
@moiravoss7019 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Ashe! I always love your videos, there is so much lore info scattered in little pieces and you gather them up nicely:) Now that DAI epilogue dlc is out, would you make an updated video on her character, with all new info we have? That would be great! She is a very central character of the series, one we see in every installment (the only constantly repeating character, even if it is for a few moments) and surely she will play a major role on the next games. (also I would like to point that Morigan is not her daughter, she says so in DA2, when hawke asks her if she is her daughter or enemy and she answers she is not either-daughter or enemy-. ) And again thank you for all the great videos!
@aidanjg1
@aidanjg1 10 жыл бұрын
I feel like when Hawke brought the piece of Flemeth to Sundermount to be "born again" that kept her alive, even if the Warden "slays" her in Origins.
@VegaSlides
@VegaSlides 10 жыл бұрын
I can't remember where, but I read that when hawke escapes from the blight, he meets Flemeth right before the warden is tasked with killing her. So you're probably right.
@Chris_Meade
@Chris_Meade 10 жыл бұрын
It was a horcrux. Flemth=Voldemort!!
@MCPunk55
@MCPunk55 8 жыл бұрын
In the "Default World", she reveals to be Mythal and, depending on who drinks from the Well of Sorrows, she will have a different reaction. Then she appears with Solas and something happens, as if she transfers her soul or energy to him, and dies. I can't say what intentions are, honestly.
@IgorValar
@IgorValar 8 жыл бұрын
she is Mythal no matter what world state u play with... Mythal merged with her ages b4 any of the games and the purpose of that between solas and her? well no doubt solas took her power for his own to make himself strong enough to eventually tear down the veil as h plans to do
@xretfdla4854
@xretfdla4854 10 жыл бұрын
I must simply thank you for these informative DA Talks. Keep up the good work ;)
@lucky8dog
@lucky8dog 8 жыл бұрын
I believe Flemeth is not just carrying on the spirit of Mythal but I believe she is/was Andraste because she told both Morrigan and Inquisitor that both she and Mythal were betrayed and they both want revenge. Andraste was betrayed by her husband and Flemeth was betrayed by her husband. Andraste lover was the Maker (who was Mythal) and her husband was jealous and Flemeth's lover was suppositively murdered by her husband. I think Mythal came to Flemeth/Andraste and saved her and transported her to the Korcari Wilds where she had daughters who willingly gave themselves to keep Mythal's spirit alive. Can you imagine the Chantry's shock to find out that their most holy was so called possessed by an Elven goddess who is also the Maker lol Now that would be a great twist!
@JesseColton
@JesseColton 7 жыл бұрын
That's a really good theory. Also, I just like for Kate Mulgrew to be the center of anything she's in. Flemeth is far and away the best character in Dragon Age.
@lucky8dog
@lucky8dog 7 жыл бұрын
Yes she is also the most intriguing character and she has been in all of the Dragon Age. I wonder if in DA4 instead of going to Tevinter it is going to focus on the Grey Warden in fighting and be set in the Anderfels? If so I hope we met up with both the Hero of Ferelden and Hawk along with Flemeth of course! Oh and did you see that in Tevinter there is a place called Solas, I wonder if the Dread Wolf took his alas from that place?
@JesseColton
@JesseColton 7 жыл бұрын
Glennis Gill Solas isn't an alias, it was truly his name before he became known as the Dread Wolf.
@lucky8dog
@lucky8dog 7 жыл бұрын
Oh I see, it was still interesting that here is a place in Tevinter named Solas, it would be a place to start looking for him and to find the next protagonist to play and they meet up with Nathaniel and maybe even Anders. But I hope in the next installment we are off to the Anderfels checking out why the Grey Wardens there have gone quite and our new protagonist finds Hawke and the Hero of Ferelden who joins. them
@bettinaostersen4015
@bettinaostersen4015 10 жыл бұрын
I read a fan fiction once, where it was suggested that Flemeth was fen'harel, the dread wolf. An idea that makes quite a lot of sense in my opinion.
@LilithWolfheart
@LilithWolfheart 10 жыл бұрын
Flemeth is definitely the most interesting character to discuss; thank you for making this!
@Partyffs
@Partyffs 9 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned Flemeth is Andraste.
@DG0398
@DG0398 9 жыл бұрын
That could actually make sense seeing as she rages about being wronged and seeking retribution like Andraste was by the Tevinter.
@Partyffs
@Partyffs 9 жыл бұрын
Drew Gaughan And the story of Flemeth and her husband. And the fact that Flemeth is insanly old.
@DG0398
@DG0398 9 жыл бұрын
Mystogan Edolas Exactly!
@thomaswest2583
@thomaswest2583 9 жыл бұрын
no but close DO NOT READ IF U DON'T WANT A SPOILER Flemeth carries a a eleven goddesss this makes her powerful beyond belief
@DG0398
@DG0398 9 жыл бұрын
Thomas West Yeah, but what if she's both?
@Trialwolf
@Trialwolf 10 жыл бұрын
Flemeth is a riddle wrapped in an Enigma. It's hard to say if she is truly good or evil though I do not see her as the main culprit in Inquisition as she feels like a character Bioware likes to use to work in the background, only revealing herself when a task from another is needed. She truly is an unknown, she gives advice which can have alternative meaning yet she seems to enjoy those who can laugh despite the serious events around them.... she merely is... that is what makes her fascinating
@Candiissimo
@Candiissimo 10 жыл бұрын
Note how your Warden and Hawke have both encountered Flemeth and now they are both missing. Coincidence? I think not!
@Eldagusto
@Eldagusto 10 жыл бұрын
I think Flemith may be one of the Old Gods herself reborn through her own bloodline, where her daughters grow to be identical to her. She seems to have multiple redundant contingency plans in place to ensure she doesn't truly die. I killed her for Morrigan in my game, and though I chose Leliana I sired Ulthamiel's next incarnation with Morgan. I also stayed on Thedas but made piece with Morgan when she went through the mirror.
@LourencoPeter
@LourencoPeter 10 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this! Thanks Ashe!
@DaniMacNCheese
@DaniMacNCheese 10 жыл бұрын
I always thought Flemeth was one of the old mages of teventer, she entered the golden city. Colored by her shame, she is still seeking some kind of power? Could be a possibility.
@smartmouth4444
@smartmouth4444 10 жыл бұрын
Maybe Flemeth is actually Andraste or the daughter of Andraste and the Maker. Far fetched yes, but it would be mind blowing.
@WarNDeath2000
@WarNDeath2000 10 жыл бұрын
As Morrigan once said "I will kill her again and again if need be",that are exactly my thoughts when it comes to Flemeth.
@Flastew
@Flastew 10 жыл бұрын
In DA2 she talked about the coming trouble perhaps she knows who will open the rift between the worlds and was telling Hawke so he or she could prepare and train. The problems in Kirkwall were just the start of the troubles.
@nulius1
@nulius1 10 жыл бұрын
One thing just occurred to me looking through the comments and that's the first archdemon (old god to rise) was killed and only AFTER that the grey wardens formed again and it states in the lore a grey warden is needed to truly kill an archdemon and eradicate its soul so I think and this is pure speculation that flemmeth Is the original and somehow during that half death she was cured of the corruption but still maintained power to manipulate the dark spawn and is trying to restore what her kind created
@kai42330
@kai42330 10 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite DA Universe characters. I shall indeed meet her again with my mage inquisitor.
@kegparr9536
@kegparr9536 10 жыл бұрын
Ashe, next DA Talk I think thing you should talk about the qunari possible influence in Inquisition and Sten becoming the new arishock. Please & Thanks!
@jonnyso1
@jonnyso1 10 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: Flemeth is the Maker ! TA DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM !
@Paddict227
@Paddict227 10 жыл бұрын
Andraste's tits, that'd be a surprise for sure lol
@ThePoisonProphet
@ThePoisonProphet 10 жыл бұрын
THATS WHAT IVE BEEN THINKING ALL THIS TIME, i hope im not right...
@BadassArabianMofo
@BadassArabianMofo 9 жыл бұрын
Well... We don't learn much from her role in Thedas in Inquisition, except who she truly is and that she seems to be collecting.
@jcaston83
@jcaston83 10 жыл бұрын
These DA Talks are fantastic Ashe, great work
@ssmmav10
@ssmmav10 10 жыл бұрын
Flemeth is probably the result of a previous OGB ritual. She can touch darkspawn (DA2) and not be corrupted. Her magic can repel drakspawn (DAO). She can't see the future but just has a good insight into events. I think her role is smilar to Theresa from Fable series
@kiwikabuttle
@kiwikabuttle 10 жыл бұрын
For Flemeth I Have a theory regarding the "Demon." on the DA wiki it has a timeline taken from the Draon Age: The World of Thedas Source book. it notes in the Ancient age Pre-Imperium that: "5185 FA or -1220 TE: The Alamarri tribes cross the Frostback Mountains and settle in the lands that will eventually become known as Ferelden. Alamarri tribal legends says they were fleeing a “shadow goddess”, but modern scholars believe they were escaping a sort of natural disaster." As Morrigan states the mortal woman Flemeth made a deal with lord connobar that went bad, she also states Flemeth practices shamanic magics in various conversation. My theory that the mortal woman Flemeth made a deal with the Shadow Goddess, an entity that in my opinion pre-dates the fade. The Mortal Flemeth then became a host for the goddess, the two fusing to become one being but with the Goddess half being the stronger. THe second part of my theory is regarding the origins of the Goddess and in part the old Gods, in Elven lore regarding the trickster deity Fen' Harel it states the Dread wolf tricked the Elven gods and the Forgotten ones, sealing both pantehons away. My theory is that the Forgotten ones are the old ones bound into the bodies of dragons by Fen'Harel and that the "Shadow Goddess" is one of these deities who either manged to escape or undo the binding.
@JadedWarlock
@JadedWarlock 10 жыл бұрын
Flemeth's purpose in Inquisition: 1. A guide for the the Inquisitor and savior in the beginning just like with the warden and Hawke. 2. The mastermind behind the veil tearing and seeks to join the Fade and Thedas together. 3. Wants to create a dragon army with the blood of Maric and control it with her own will brand of forbidden magic. Ultimately I don't know, we'll have to play the game to find out for sure.
@duckslapper12
@duckslapper12 10 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that in the trailer for inquisition, the dragon looks like Flemeth's dragon form from DA2?
@FloraAnneFauna
@FloraAnneFauna 10 жыл бұрын
i think that flemeth actually IS an uncorruptedbold god that somehow managed to avoid being imprisoned and that the ritual purpose was the comeback of one of her former companions into our world
@manasama111
@manasama111 10 жыл бұрын
One of my theories is that Flemmeth is actually Andraste. Perhaps she made a deal with a demon while burning at the stake and was reborn as Flemmeth. It's a little far fetched I know but it would truly be epic none the less.
@mstrickster1
@mstrickster1 10 жыл бұрын
They plan on making it a five game series, right? If so then the child with the old god will most likely be the main character in an upcoming game. That will most likely be when we find out all the little details to Flemeth's plan.
@sebasmanders2356
@sebasmanders2356 10 жыл бұрын
Think about this, the architect is a puppet of Flemeth. He did something wrong in making the old god a disciple, and I think Flemeth did this. So that Flemeth could not only flee Ferelden, she could do it with everyone thinking she would be dead, killed by the Warden, or by the darkspawn. The Architect is later released, and starts doing more of his own experiments on darkspawn and Wardens. And Flemeth can pursue and become Morrigan, who, in the mean time has become a powerfull woman in Orlais and is trying to raise her god-child. In the end Morrigan and Flemeth have the same goals, to have dragons bend to their wills. And ruling the world.
@brettonalwood4173
@brettonalwood4173 10 жыл бұрын
Personal speculation is that she could be Andraste herself that was not satisfied with how stagnant things had become under the Magisters rule so after the first Blight used her Magic to rebel saying that the source of her power was the Divine which explain the convenient natural disasters and the rumors of Andraste being a powerful mage. Once she was betrayed tales speak of how she had several children but they mysteriously vanished so I think Andraste took control of one and escaped that way.
@ThaPimpminista
@ThaPimpminista 10 жыл бұрын
I like the Kreia from KOTOR 2 comparison. They mirror my thoughts that she's gonna wind up being the villain who caused all the drama in the first place.
@nickbrown762
@nickbrown762 10 жыл бұрын
Flemeth could be the main antagonist, she has always been a puppet master and her plans, what ever they are, are still moving forward. I don't think she will have another important but mysterious roll to play. I hope we can find out what she really is
@brandonwantroba8256
@brandonwantroba8256 10 жыл бұрын
I think Flemeth will probably help I would love too have her as a Companion in Inquisistion
@stuartharam1742
@stuartharam1742 10 жыл бұрын
Ok biggest question in my mind relating to the dark ritual, the Old God child and if the warden was used to enact the dark ritual. In particular relating to the finale of witch hunt if the Warden followed Morigan through the eluvian by refusing to leave her side (I have done this twice, once in both my playthroughs). In this circumstance wouldn't the warden play a prominent role in inquisition or at least be found by Morigans side and what effect if any does this have on both the factions of the Inquisition (possibly explaining the wardens sudden activity against their normal neutrality) and the overall story for Morrigan and the Old God child.
@mrmax9975
@mrmax9975 10 жыл бұрын
I think that the change in Flemeths character model was to show that we saw her in the form of an old lady in modest clothing because she wanted us to. I think in DA2 we see Flemeth as she really is in the sense of appearance. (or realer)
@SunnyDragonfly
@SunnyDragonfly 10 жыл бұрын
I've noticed throughout this video, you've kept connecting her to Vengeance, which makes me wonder if Flemeth somehow orchestrated Ander's joining with Justice to create such a fade creature (not quite spirit, not quite demon, and not quite human) to naturally fulfill her goals. Maybe Flemeth smiles upon Anders actions at the Chantry because it is what she wants. I saw a comment that suggested that Flemeth is Andraste, which might also explain why the Reavers near her ashes thought that their dragon was Andraste, because they might have seen her turn into a Dragon one day. Andraste might have been a good person, and maybe she still is, but seeing what her church turned into makes her despise the wishy-washy "Let the oppression of these people continue because it's always been that way instead of being open to new way of thinking" attitude exhibited by the Grand Cleric. I've always thought the Circle would be vastly improved by being more of a school and registry, with vacations to see their families and allow visitors so they feel more like humans with something to lose and less like weapons that no one really wants to use in an arsenal.
@Seyeiin
@Seyeiin 9 жыл бұрын
She is the symbol of mistery and the connection between the chapters. Also she is the dragon that's era we call the game after XD What did you think?
@DylPickleman
@DylPickleman 10 жыл бұрын
I believe Flemeth is one of the original Darkspawn (note Corypheus' apparent ability of possession and Flemeth's wish to reform Urthemiel); along with this, I believe the reason Arlathan was sacked by Tevinter was for the Eluvians - which take one "somewhere beyond the Fade" (Witch Hunt): the Black City. Unlike Corypheus, though, Flemeth has her wits about her, and has been plotting the resurgence of the Old Gods for centuries.
@SephirothsStudent
@SephirothsStudent 10 жыл бұрын
Also Ashe, I believe you once mentioned a theory that states Flemeth is one of the last of the Old Gods? Could I get your thoughts on that?
@quadudeful
@quadudeful 10 жыл бұрын
I think that Flemeth has the soul of a old god. If she dates back to around the first blight then its thinkable that she might have the soul of Dumat within her. It would also explain how she know what happens to a gray warden when a archdemon is slain, and how she know of the dark ritual.
@Manos515
@Manos515 10 жыл бұрын
I think that Flemeth is one of the slain Archdemons during one of the blights. Probably saved in the same way Morrigan is saving the Old God soul in Origins. But i don't think that the Old God child is the one that will tear the veil open.Because of what Morrigan is saying in the Witch Hunt that she didn't know what Flemeth was truly planning, so i assume that is Flemeth that brought this catastrophic event in Thedas and that with Morrigan's assistance (either as a follower or just a guide in game) that we will kill Flemeth. In that way we making way for a new Flemeth (Old God child) to come in her place with an unknowing cause. No matter what is true or not i am more than happy to be amazed in the secrets of lore they created for us! - But also Morgan could manipulate us until the very end and she might be the one that causes this event.-
@DuelSoul
@DuelSoul 10 жыл бұрын
It's too early to say what Flemeth has put into motion exactly, but the world changes as she sees fit as she the pieces into position. Whether we agree with her vision, reject it or take the third option will probably be a poignant choice down the line, but I don't think it'll happen in Inquisition. We may get a few more hints, especially with Morrigan's involvement and with whatever happens to the Inquisitor will give us a clue to where the Warden and Hawke may have disappeared to.
@lde1268
@lde1268 9 жыл бұрын
What if she was the product of the dark ritual and has the soul of an old god? That would explain her knowing the ritual as well as not being an abomination or human.
@Genjutsusimpa
@Genjutsusimpa 9 жыл бұрын
im going to play through all the dragon age stuff now. i wonder if ill finish before the dai release. flemeth is an old god.
@Silenthitman44
@Silenthitman44 10 жыл бұрын
@Logan Strickland There's no five game nor is their a limited amount of games in the series since he said he misspoke but there is a story arc planned that spans an x number of games.
@Bordelined
@Bordelined 10 жыл бұрын
What most don't know she also saved Maric, Alistair's dad which changed a lot of crap. Just like how she saved the Grey Warden and Hawke.
@pungivergiverofpuns3611
@pungivergiverofpuns3611 10 жыл бұрын
I think Flemith will end up being an old god honestly.
@nessycyrodiil
@nessycyrodiil 3 жыл бұрын
omg this has aged so well xD
@cameronpearce5943
@cameronpearce5943 10 жыл бұрын
I think that Flamith is the Makers Wife, Remember that cult that worshiped that Dragon because they thought it was the reincarnation of the makers wife, and then there was that ancient darkspawn in 2 who claimed that the Golden city was already fowled before the Magistrates got there, and how Flemith pre-dates the Chantrey
@JoshuaIsaacAlexander
@JoshuaIsaacAlexander 10 жыл бұрын
I personally think that Flemeth wont assume the role of villain until (perhaps) the last game in the series. Her character always struck me as the puppet master, the one pulling strings, and everything is a means to an end. Also it could be very interesting to see if there are other people that are like Morrigan, in that they are Flemeth's "daughters", as was eluded in Origins that Morrigan may not be the inly one.
@zenodinx
@zenodinx 10 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what your thoughts would be on about one of the original darkspawn you fight in dragon age 2 DLC Legacy. After the fight he jumps into a warden and walks away. Any thoughts?
@Blackemperess
@Blackemperess 10 жыл бұрын
This is a little late I know, but Yevana mentions Morrigan in her conversation with Alistair stating that she (morrigan) didn't understand what Flemeth had given her and that she was blind. Not an exact statement but I thought it was a rather strange comment to make.
@ussumane22
@ussumane22 10 жыл бұрын
Flemeth has been around even before fereldan had its name
@horusrage
@horusrage 10 жыл бұрын
I think the following things are possible. - Flemeth - is an engineer for change positive/negative ... and that change regardless can be scary. (Sandals prediction) - Flemeth - could be Andraste as much as she is the witch of the wilds. Escaping death at the imperium hands to the wilds to be safe .. changing bodies and falling in love after her first change. After all to call to demons you need magic or a thin veil. - Flemeth - goals are different death of many is certain of all avoidable.
@saltykenny5370
@saltykenny5370 10 жыл бұрын
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say that Flemeth is whats left of Andraste, when she was burned at the stake she was saved by the Maker but the Maker was not what she expected, the Maker was in fact.......a powerful demon TAN TAN TAN, turning her into Flemeth.
@TheVioletfox01
@TheVioletfox01 9 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it make more sense if Flemeth was the daughter of Andraste and Maferath? If the chantry was founded on its hatred of mages at the start when andraste perished at the hands of the imperium, it would make sense if they tried to sweep her under the rug if it turns out **surprise** she's a mage! A few decades imprisoned by your mother's creation would, no doubt, make little Flemeth a little bit bitter about the whole business. Her powers are a mystery to me though... it seems less that a demon possessed *her, and more *she* possessed a demon... gaining it's powers of transformation, possession, and control over a portion of the fade.
@Stargeek2006
@Stargeek2006 9 жыл бұрын
It seems to me like Flemeth is, in simpler terms, just sick of dealing with men and mortals, and conspiring with demons and all has probably given her a sort of malevolent enlightenment. I've had it in my head that she used Morrigan and the ritual to trap the Old Gods soul in her child to basically gain an old god grandchild, and it was her plan to possess the child rather than morrigan so she'd have some extreme power. It also works out because it would be extremely possible that morrigan could have died while with the warden, and if she did Flemeth wouldn't be able to possess her and Flemeth would die too. I think really flemeth is just power hungry, except she's not violently power hungry, she's cunning about it. She's finding and making just the right contacts and probably shaping everything to how SHE wants it. With all the dragons in Inquisition, it wouldn't surprise me if she was behind something, or behind something to do with the inquisitor.
@drowned3
@drowned3 10 жыл бұрын
... according with most of you say, I think Flemmeth could be one of the ancient gods who rebel against the Maker and were corrupted though, thereby she's trying to be perpetuated in the world. By another hand, she could be a mage with Andraste's spirit within who's intending to accomplish a task for perpetuation (not neccesarily for the Maker's sake), however, this second theory is far fetched considering The Guardian's declaration about Andraste and the dragons cults before The Test of Faith in DAO.
@Callimachus33
@Callimachus33 10 жыл бұрын
I thing the Elven Fen'Harel or "Dread Wolf" is in fact the entity to which the Chantry refers as "the Maker". The Forgotten Ones are probably the Tevinter Gods. Flemeth is working for one of these groups, or for the Dread Wolf, but I don't think she is one of their number.
@Gorvar100
@Gorvar100 10 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of ways we can see Flemeth in D:I. She could be the one who opened the Vale and she is the antagonist but she is playing her old game. For all we know she could be Andraste reborn and she had enough of humanity hence she wants to drag them into a new age. Her age. Or she saw the end was coming closer, as she stated to the Warden and Hawke, and she is in fact setting up the pieces for the grand game she is playing against a unseen foe. Someone bigger then all the bads we beat.
@brittneyharrell2391
@brittneyharrell2391 9 жыл бұрын
Ooh new thought could Flemeth be one of the last dragons, intent on bringing back the days of dragon worship?
@amiliablue2267
@amiliablue2267 10 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Flemeth is sephiroth's Mother.... Bwahahahhahaha..Oh shit..
@Silenthitman44
@Silenthitman44 10 жыл бұрын
all of the legends could have some truth to them due to what Arliene said which was that Flemeth has fooled people into thinking they killed her only to return after various years or centuries, she's most likely a dragon who gained the ability to shapeshift from something that could be the antagonist of DAI
@PlutoGamingg
@PlutoGamingg 10 жыл бұрын
This is my theory i have created. She is an old god. She trapped all the other old gods. The other old gods made the Tevinter Imperium by communicating to Mages using the fade. They did this so the Mages would enter the gold city (where the old gods are trapped) to corrupt the men (the blight) and free themselves by using the blight to dig for their bodies. I believe Flemeth made the chantry to control Mages so this would never happen again. Flemeth was Andraste. Andraste was a women and spread the chant all over the Continent (seems to be a very hard thing to do for a human) then died (Flemeth's work was done with the chantry). Flemeth responded to the blight by creating the Greywadrens (This would explain two things 1. Why she helped the Greywarden so much. 2. How the grey wardens could defeat the first blight.(Using here blood (She is an Old God). Hawke was nothing to here. She probably foretold the Mage uprising and Hawkes role in it but nothing major. Still using all this i don't know whether she means good or bad. My guess would be she is for herself. She wanted the world for herself. I don't think she opened the veil but i do think she will help close it but this is all future stuff so i cant make a logical guess on it. I will say i think she is in control as in nothing is unexpected even Morrigans baby. Her plan is folding out nicely.
@josephcresswell5453
@josephcresswell5453 9 жыл бұрын
Flemeth seems to dislike the races of thedas but has took measures to save them for example saving the warden so he/she so either flemeth is waiting for the right moment to strike or there's something more complicated going on
@ZackLitchfield
@ZackLitchfield 10 жыл бұрын
I believe that Flemeth's role in DA:I, will be large but I don't think she will be the primary antagonist behind the tear in the veil. I'm hoping that while she doesn't play ally to the party, her actions in DA:I present unique challenges to the Inquisitor in their ultimate quest. She is a character which I am hoping will get a good deal of "screen" time.
@tourniquettspearman5020
@tourniquettspearman5020 10 жыл бұрын
could flemeth have absorbed the first old god spirit? if it was killed before grey wardens were able to be met it could go to another so why not flemeth? it explains the dragon transformation and her power
@jodieburnside2868
@jodieburnside2868 10 жыл бұрын
This is a half formed thought, so if there are holes in this theory forgive me, but it occured to me while watching that perhaps Flemeth's demon, the one that gave her power, perhaps worked a little like that of Justice with Anders? Her dragon form, the Old God and dragons waking may be because the demon that helped her was in fact an old god? Giving her power but also keeping Flemeth's personality in the same way Anders is in control most of the time, perhaps Femeth intends to manipulate the world and raise the dragons in an attempt to return the world to the control of the old gods, before the old gods became corrupted? Perhaps Flemeths promise in return for that old gods help was that she bring about the return of the old gods to power, in the same way demons make deals with the mages in return for something? As I said, half formed thoughts likely have a lot of holes but I thought i may as well put it out there for debate... Morrigan says what Flemeth wants is not immortality, but so much worse, that was the part that originally sparked this idea... poke holes in my theory guys :P
@dylanmackie8299
@dylanmackie8299 9 жыл бұрын
''A Herald to come''? Ins't The Herald what Cullen calls the Inquisitor in one of the trailers? could be a long shot but could you be Morrigans son? or will he be in the game?
@anim242
@anim242 9 жыл бұрын
well morrigan's confirmed to be in the game so i imagine if not directly in the game the baby will be mentioned.
@74badreaper
@74badreaper 10 жыл бұрын
I think that the important to thing to remember when talking about Flemeth is that she is not mortal. She implies that she has been living for centuries so her motives are unknowable. I think she will be the main antagonist of the Dragon Age series but is content to let things play out that she may have planned out herself. Could she be Andraste? She forms a new body on a different continent, pretty handy if your being burned alive by a Tevinter Magister huh? She reminds me of the Reapers
@DeclanVogt
@DeclanVogt 10 жыл бұрын
It sounds to me like she may have something to do with the dragon cults. Perhaps even be their leader?
@glasses4500
@glasses4500 8 жыл бұрын
just want to ask if Flemeth wears the same tiara Andraste wore? Bump Bump Bump xD
@Sauronisbest
@Sauronisbest 10 жыл бұрын
I think, Flemeth will be much more intertwined with the Plot in Inquisition than she was in Origins or in DA2. I think it is more likely for her to take on a Role similar to the one of Kreia in KotoR 2, which means basically to appear as an Ally to the Player but reveal herself as a, if not THE Villain of the Game (she certainly has the Power to cause something like the rift of the Veil). Although she could also be the exact opposite, a seemingly Villain who is revealed to have been good.
@SirDifferent
@SirDifferent 10 жыл бұрын
Is it crazy that that is exactly what I thought halfway through this video?! lol I'd believe it. I feel like Andraste and the Maker are going to be playing MUCH larger roles than before. Since the fade and the real world are like connected maybe the inquisitor journeys into the fade for answers and finds the black city or whatever its called where the maker is just chilling and it turns out he's the main enemy and his plan is to kill everyone and start anew, like God and noah's ark :0
@MrAlexanderLang
@MrAlexanderLang 10 жыл бұрын
Remmember the vial in elven forest which gives you Arcane Warrior specialisation? If you do you will remmemeber that he let warden see the pictures of battles of elves and humans fighting an enemy that appeared not human nor elven that was before chanchry at the time Flemeth was born and lived.My guess is that things we saw happen in inquisition happened already and Flemeth knows about it so she is preparing.
@ulrocks23
@ulrocks23 10 жыл бұрын
From my own perspective, I think that Flemeth might be an Old God herself, perhaps one that exists outside the 7 Main ones. Or she could simply be a very old dragon, one that has withstood the ravages of time. Or she could even be Fen'Harel.
@SiberianSoldier
@SiberianSoldier 10 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the Archdemon from the first game is a part of Flemeth..
@horusrage
@horusrage 10 жыл бұрын
part 2 However if Andraste and Flemeth are the same person it puts to question her motivations regarding the Darkspawn. Remember what she did started the chantry and led to the Dales as a Dalish and when she meets Merril she seems slightly disgusted if they show subservience perhaps thats a reaction to knowing how proud they were and already freeing them in the past. Certainly destroying the darkspawn for Flemeth makes the most sense but what if they are another means to an end?
@khatack
@khatack 10 жыл бұрын
Flemeth could be a the manipulative mastermind that is secretly behind everything, like Kreia in the Sith Lords. She could be a dreamer, and maybe the spirits and demons she communicated with were actually slumbering old gods, which would explain some of her abilities and interests, and if that is the case then she probably seeks to save the old gods from the darkspawn taint. Or claim their power, or something. And she may very well be the one who tears down the veil for all we know.
@jakisz
@jakisz 10 жыл бұрын
Well more then likely Flemeth is going to save us, but the price of it may be higher than Hawke, maybe on Maric's level. She is going to use us for something, no doubt about that. But I also doubt that she is the antagonist, she could be a anti-hero. Too obvious to make her the villain.
@min181094
@min181094 6 жыл бұрын
jakisz you were so right!
@juggerdawg4505
@juggerdawg4505 10 жыл бұрын
iv heard a few interesting things about Flemeth the most being she could in fact be... Andraste the more you think about it more and more it makes since
@belindawalker6601
@belindawalker6601 3 жыл бұрын
So many theories and yet considering she ended up being so much more than any of the theories
@KhanGarth
@KhanGarth 10 жыл бұрын
i think shes gonna be a boss in Inquisition, maybe not the main boss but a secondary one.
@jodieburnside2868
@jodieburnside2868 10 жыл бұрын
I think there are too many possibilities with Flemeth to waste her on a simple boss... to many possibilities for the story with her there, I don't think Bioware would waste her as a boss.
@iloveredalert3
@iloveredalert3 10 жыл бұрын
Jodie Burnside True, it was quite easy IMO to defeat Flemeth back in DA:O so i'm not surprised if i have to do the exact same thing, Only to find out Flemeth is dead, but not dead.
@daigustoelfie7365
@daigustoelfie7365 10 жыл бұрын
*SPOILERS* In regards to Morrigan: During Witch Hunt, my male warden romanced her and they went through the portal together. Does this mean my warden makes some sort of appearence in Inquisition?
@Areszvt
@Areszvt 10 жыл бұрын
I believe flemeths role is da inquisition is based on the actions of the warden in origins. If you decided to kill her and go with morrigan in the portal, she will feel anger and revenge towards her daughter and try to stop her, depending on what morrigans role is in da inquisition. I'm just curious to know how will a romanced male warden will tie into this. Will it be a brief discussion like in DA2, or a more in depth conversation or confrontation
@natachacote9918
@natachacote9918 10 жыл бұрын
I think Flemeth is an archdemon one of the Mage who went in the golden city and was transformed!
@demonhoopa
@demonhoopa 10 жыл бұрын
I too sympathize more with the mages (although they do make it difficult at times). However, who I side with depends entirely on the character I'm role playing, their motivations, morals and beliefs.
@dumbghost3109
@dumbghost3109 5 жыл бұрын
I would love flemeth as a companion in 4. It's unrealistic but I still want it.
@kamizukeblade
@kamizukeblade 10 жыл бұрын
flemeth is a really good character she is one of my favorites
@JenocidalTendencies
@JenocidalTendencies 10 жыл бұрын
What if Flemeth is actually a dragon? Before I get into the proof the game, I will present evidence about dragons in general. Little is known about them in the game, but in real life lore many tales tell of dragons who can cast powerful magic, shape change at will, are known to be very wise, often arrogant, highly clever, act to assist other beings only when it suits their own purpose and even use their inhuman beauty (in human form) to mate and produce children with humans or elves. Especially those with good singing voices. These children are usually very gifted users of magic or supremely adept warriors and dragons are often portrayed with being respected deeply by elves. As far as the game it almost fits perfectly. Flemeth was beautiful, and in one legend or the other, wooed by a bard. She is clearly a master of magic, extremely clever and seems not to mind when small bits of her power are taken from her. She has a history of seducing men from the wilds to lay with her in order to produce her children. She has avoided death for generations (dragons being noted for living for thousands of years) and often speaks in riddles. She summoned the demon but rather than become an abomination, she became 'something else' perhaps a reaction to her being a dragon. I understand that all of the dragons thus far presented in the game have been nothing more than very difficult boss fights, but what if those were just a different breed, or just ones that didn't bother with mortals the way Flemeth did? Also the game is called 'Dragon Age' and it is said that an age is named after what plagued it most, so unless there's already been a dragon age, I really don't see why this era would be plagued by dragons if most are easily killed. Unless, all of Flemeth's daughters have finished their training and are preparing an Inquisition of the mortal races as an army of Dragons. they would need an exceptionally powerful dragon to lead them (Flemeth or the Child). But this is just a theory that popped into my head.
@jackchester2946
@jackchester2946 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure whether she's in inquisition I'm about half way through and no sign of flemeth. Happy moragan makes and appearance. And I might be miss remembering but isn't she a secret boss in origins? Also um a dragon!
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