sampling a 909 is kinda senseless. first it's done by many there are 1.000.000 909 samples but more importantly you can not sample the fun of programming and tweaking

So you prefer digitally sampled 909 sounds above analogue (ok the cymbals are digital) RD-9? I don’t see it although I’m a fan of the MPC especially the Linn MPC’s.

And all the originals 909's sounds not 100% same too, After all, you have a 20 percent component tolerance

Då får du kolla den igen så får jag högre tittarsiffror. :-P

@@RegebroRepairs självklart

Yeah I also have an 908 😂

I like my 908, too. Big time :) But here, they are two machines actually. One from 1980 and the other from '83 🤩

@@wackerburg i waited 30 years to buy a 908 and when it came out i didn't want it because it's a one trick pony and i don't want to be a cookiecutter with a 908

How’s the quality?

Wasn’t that some kind of huge Peugeot Station Wagon 🤔 😂

You can just record them separately if you don't want the phasing sound.

The 909 has a fixed panning you can't change. I find it very useful and almost always record it like that, usually with the kick and sometimes snare from the individual outs to add separate EQ and to have less reverb on the kick.

@@RegebroRepairs In other words, there are sounds that are panned on the TR-909 ?

Kinda. But it turns out to have been very complicated. Quick spoiler though: Midi isn't stable. 😀

@RegebroRepairs expected as much, I have the Roland MC909 and TR8S just in case..been sussing those ERM MIDI clock devices too . Came across my original TR909 ver 1 service notes the other day..picked my TR909 in new condition from a garage sale in 1992 for $150..00 .only have the service notes now. All the best

@@andrewverran3498 If you send no other midi data but midi clock, then dedicated clocks should be better, but then again, people have been using ordinary midi clock for decades now, I think it's probably good enough.

maybe they don't relate at all?

@@lownrgy Since the Roland designers of the Tr 909 took over (stole? ;) the idea of ​​the shuffle from Roger Linn and his LM 1, I'm pretty sure that it also has the same values ​​of the shuffle. With the extension of a 74% shuffle. The LM 1 has 50,54,58,62,66,70% shuffle. The Shuffle Settings of the Tr 909 and Rd9: 1-50% 2-54% 3-58% 4-62% 5-66% 6-70% 7-74% Incidentally, Roger Linn later developed the Dr660 drum machine for Roland/Boss, with which Squarepusher produced the great album The Big Loada (only with Boss Dr660 and Aka S950), so I could imagine that he would already advise Roland on the Tr 909 and act to the side. ;) Greetings from Germany

@@mareikemacinnes7764 I would bet Linn shuffle and RD-9 shuffle dot relate either

@@lownrgy Bet lost, it is as I stated. Lennart should only confirm that in practice it is as theoretically suspected. In the meantime, I have received this confirmation from the Behringer beta tester Honeysmack. Greetings from Germany

@@mareikemacinnes7764 Beta who, Behringer has their own timing if you can't hear that you are the one who is lost

Sometimes. Depends which parts share certain frequency bands in the audio spectrum. When dealing with snares on top of a bassdrum I often check to see if reversing the phase makes it sound better, sometimes it does. But that is already outside any machine or pluggin that makes the sound when I'm already in my DAW mixer. This technique goes for almost all (percussive) sounds. Especially when layering bassdrums.

Yeah, but if you really want the RD-9 to behave like the TR-909 in that specific case, you can just invert the signal from the individual out in the DAW. Or even make a special reversing cable.

@@RegebroRepairs ok but when I record the Main Output - No Ind. Outs... I will have the Phase Issue in the Clap and Snr....

@errorkit Yes. That's by design, that's how the 909 works.

@@RegebroRepairs crazy thanks for that info!

Well, the presets are just rhythms, the sound is controlled by the knobs. I'm not sure exactly what you mean with a 303 saturate sound, but neither the 303 not the 909 normally distort.

@@RegebroRepairs well. I will provide you with a video. there is clearly a bassline sound coming from my RD-9... very very strange (fYI i have already some roland gear, i'm an analog addict so trust me.. something's wrong here with this RD-9 :D)

@@stefpir Please do, I'd like to know what you mean. If it sounds very different from other RD-9's there might be something wrong. Then again, that might be cool. 🙂

@@RegebroRepairs Hy Lennart ! first of all i reiterate my congratulations to your new channel, i have watched all your videos and how lucky you are to have the "real" TR-909! today i have solved the mystery about this acid sound "à la TB-303". it is in fact a rimshot which in the pattern 7 of the machine i have just acquired is played in repeat note very quickly. if we slow down the rhythm to its minimum we can then hear distinctly the sound of several rimshot in a row. Crazy! See : kzfaq.infoUgkxQxiPi-S1Cf-QJ7Sfic3Eza6sR70sPttP Beyond this problem, I asked myself: what exactly is this pattern? In any case, it cannot be a factory pattern. So I searched on the internet and I found the reset procedure and everything went back to normal. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7ZilNl8s82xn3k.html called "How to Factory Reset Behringer RD-8 (and fix the step repeat error)" => Factory reset => solved

@@stefpir It sounds like the memory has been corrupted in it, then, and one pattern has just has a high tempo and a long fill of rimshots. You can do a lot of crazy things, check out the drums in Björk's song "Hunter" for example. I was definitely lucky in that I encountered a cheap TR-909 in 1987 and was too stupid to understand that analog wasn't cool. I thought it sounded great, and I could afford it. It was bigger than a TR-707 and had higher numbers, so it had to be better, right? 🙂

If my guess of what components are involved, then replacing C152 and C155 (on the 909) with just a wire should work. I don't have an RD-9 schematic, so I don't know which components are there, and I assume they are surface mount, so replacing them would be more difficult. You would probably have to replace them with 0 ohm resistors of the same size. Or, of course, you can just use a mixer. Having the snare and kick on separate outs to be able to have separate amounts of reverb and separate filtering is nice anyway.

No, I don't have that problem. I have no idea what could be the cause. Do you have an example?

@@RegebroRepairs i will upload some examples when back to studio - and will give this comment section a push - would love to hear your opinion

When

The RD-9 is released but often sold out. But for example Thomann has it in stock right now if you are in Europe.

No, sadly, it does not.

@@RegebroRepairs that’s a bummer. Thanks for the answer

@@lugo4905 Yeah, a weird way of writing bass lines so you don't get exactly what you expect would have been appreciated, but I can understand that they didn't bother to include that. 🙂

@@RegebroRepairs the instrument track worked perfectly for samplers . It was polyphonic so you could launch multiple samples. You could write an entire track the 909 and a good sampler.

Yeah, they aren't samples, it's a bunch of analog circuitry. That's why they don't sound exactly like real drums.

@@RegebroRepairs that's bonkers, they just synthesize the sounds. Wow man, today I learned!

@@npc2071 Well, that's how you had to do it before 1980. And the 909 still did it in 1984, because memory chips were really expensive. The cymbals on the 909 are samples, however. So the 909 is a bit of a compromise. :-)

It's a phase we all have to face while I'm battling my aphasia.

TR909 is endlessly sexy. Mostly because of her large size.

OH YEAH EXACTLY

Ah, good to know.

There's two 909 and they all sound different to each other. That's the whole point, really. 😀

That's the whole point. People are always doing these comparisons, but badly. So someone had to do it properly. Conclusion: Get an RD-9.

Audiophiles don't measure. They opine. But you do have a good point otherwise. 😀

You can't tweak the sounds live with samples. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtSPidhluNa5iIE.html The RD9 is in many ways a better 909. It also got the sound spot on.

@@RegebroRepairs lolol. dude the kick sounds like shit. sounds like it has a high pass filter on it lol. not a chance