You and Jake together is completely and utterly amazing. You two are some of my favorite youtubers.

Defunctland Jake is dope as well!

What skylon bellows said

Yea probably best that this is the last airline vid. Didn’t really fit in the channel.

A quick thing: I actually have some interesting marketing pictures of an in-development Disney World (It was a marketing thing between Disney and Eastern Airlines), promoting both Disney World and the airline. I got them with my dad in an auction, I could send you the pictures if you're interested? Just thought they would be cool, considering the video!

Legend has it that the karmic boon he incurred spared a descendant of his who foolishly tried to throw out a burning pan of fry oil

@@casacara Are you talking about that guy in the gif with him and a droid?

@@casacara if only the plane had been equipped with the Bearbags™ that his descendent ended up creating, he may not have had to be cool about fire safety to begin with... IT'S ALL CONNECTED

HE BROKE NEW GROUND!!!

TBF if I was pinned under a plane wreck I probably wouldn't want the other survivors setting it on fire either

........ c. o. s. t.......

@@jmason2838 yeah what they said

That is literally me every time I watch these kind of videos.

@Nature Taco that is what they saideded

I wish I can travel back in time with my current salary.

it does.

@@xww6849 I don't think you are informed well mate, just look up the symptomes on google... It has litterly nothing to do with your eye popping out of its socket.

So, did it pop out of the socket? Was he supposed to mean “Dislodged”?

matt whoa-

@matt how the hell do u dislocate your eyes???

Eh that line is applicable to many points in ancient history.

@@zerobullets6935 humans have a lot of audacity

@@Ellron23 Yes, typically appearing every century or three. Contrast that with America, where it appears every other week.

@@stevenschnepp576 nah

Kevin: **starts episode on Kingdom of The Dinosaurs** Kevin: _Over 65 Million Years ago..._

>:Start of video: "So, the airplane was invented in 1903..." >:End of video: "And that's why capital will always destroy everything good it creates for the sake of capital's profit motive, and we must as a society make the ultimate choice between the interests of capital and the interests of labor in our organizational methods!" ...I mean this as a compliment of course.

If you watch SkillUp, this is exaclty what he did (but with coke vs. pepsi) at the beginning of his Destiny 2 Forsaken review

@@Titleknown A response of his to another user seems to contradict that "End of video" part.

@@SirBlackReeds Looking at what I'm presuming you're speaking of, tru, and it's a bit of hyperbole on my part. It's certainly unlikely it's directly endorsing an ideology like; say; a lot of the leftist KZfaqrs I like. And, of course, you gotta make money even if your ideology is anticapitalist in this hellscape. But, I've always been a proponent of the idea that a creator's views tend to leak out into their work in terms of themes, and I'll say that the project of Defunctland as a whole seems more leftist than it isn't. If only because of how by its very nature it treats those things discarded by capital as art, and looks at the roles the battles between capital and labor and capital's role in ultimately destroying these works of art. I hold no love for Adorno's role in media critique, and part of that is because I think anticapitalism is much better sold by virtue of capitalism destroying/burying what good the laborers under it create. IE, less "Capitalism creates garbage I hate like jazz and Donald Duck" and more "Capitalism killed practical creature effects in film" and, more relevantly, "Capitalism killed beautiful works of rideable art and replaced them with SCREENS!"

I saw once a documentary about a hotel that started to burn, so the cat living there meowed at every door until everyone got out. When they rebuilt the hotel they put cat doors in every door so the cat has easier access :D. So humans had been long gone for sure if not for other animals..!

Yes he is. Ohh yes he is.

Haha

That was my favorite part of the video.

@@TeruteruBozusama can we get a name of the documentary, maybe the hotel it was? I love cats more than anything, so it'd be a great watch.

You've gotta love dogs. They have no idea what's going on at any given time, they're just happy to be there.

I mean, he's probably the one who would be affected most by that. Most of the other passengers could at least run away...

@@timothymclean I know right? Passenger: "Lets break out the flares!" Rickenbacker, in pain and pinned under a mountain of metal and jet fuel: "PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO!"

@@timothymclean it's just impressive that he was the most clear-headed about it. The others wouldn't be able to run from a gasoline fire very well, the fumes ignite and you'd be engulfed before you could get anywhere

@@amoureux6502 yea also like. Since ppl would have had to crawl out of the wreckage so they would have probably gotten covered in jet fuel

Everyone did

Yep. Classic clickbait

Would you blame anyone for thinking that?

i literally had to delete my "who the fuck thought a disney airline would be a good idea? oh, eisner probably" comment

I thought Disney actually started their own airline

I’m naming them Hero

The goodest of doggos

@@QuiGonJohn1999 no matter his name, he is still the "goodest boy".

there's probably as many dog heroes as humans

Lol

I love how comfortable the man looks and is happy knowing that

@Sebas7710 have you contracted emojiizim

@Sebas7710 and let me guess was that when you posted that comment?

@Sebas7710 oof. So are you over it or do you still have it? I am going to guess you are over it since you haven't spammed emojis yet

@Sebas7710 Good to hear! I hope you don't catch it again!

Large unions hurt everyone. The short gains the employee get are well short lived and often lead to hostility which creates bad quarters and layoffs to prevent bankruptcy Edit: WHEN I SAY LARGE UNIONS I AM TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT SECTOR LIKE TEACHERS UNIONS AND NURSING UNIONS. POINT AND CASE, THE PANDEMIC HAS EXPOSED THEM AS DETRIMENTAL TO INSTITUTIONS AND THE PEOPLE THEY CLAIM TO SERVE.

@@dominantwolf4593 ah yes the employees should just shut up and take whatever management gives them

@@drewgehringer7813 there's a difference between "shut up and take what the management gave them" to not accepting an concession even if the company goes belly up...

@@dostayer3369 Ah, but notice how the ceo was so quick to cut corners in everyone else's paychecks... except his own. Consistently.

@@dostayer3369 Except a concession was made, and the CEO agreed to it - it was the board that gave the middle finger to both the union and the CEO.

Oof

Oh god the feels.

"It all started about 4.5 billion years ago..."

It all started with alchohol...

I’m crying at this 😂

And then somehow Trump gets involved. Because why wouldn't he?

Gamerfrommars 2.0

AH SHIT, HERE WE GO AGAIN

All it takes is a single spark, for the biggest of infernos.... the rise of the airplane ✈️

Which is more important: Solving problems, or personal profit? Yeah, there's a reason neither of us are corporate executives.

I'm not going to say I told you so, but I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

The way he smirks when he says that, like he can barely hold back laughing....

@@JacklynBurn hey, when this goes to shit, he's getting a severence package, they aren't.

That was so fucking evil

@@twyckoff87 he was a jerk, but he also wasn’t wrong. They refused to negotiate. Eastern got bought by Lorenzo, who didn’t even give them the time of day, and thousands were laid off.

Just Trump lmfao

@@gladitsnotme Who, as is often the case, was one of the touches of death. Though in all fairness, it sounds like it would've died with or without him here.

Doing the equivalent of pissing on a terminaly ill paitent before skedaddling :/

@@thronezwei4412 Trump was there to smother the dying company or pull the plug for its life-support.

@@thronezwei4412 One could argue that it was a mercy killing.

Killing the company isn't a problem for people like Lorenzo because they just take assets for themselves before filling for bankruptcy. They just proceed to buy or fund new companies and repeat the process, sometimes with some cool government handouts.

@@DaSilverJoker Oh yeah, some people just want to take assets from themselves regardless of how many lives they ruin in the process.

That is why he would end up banned from the industry in a few years. Today, JetBlue has largely replicated the legacy Eastern Airlines network.

US citizens don't have rights

I CAN'T SEE ME LOVIN NOBODY BUT YOU

Pan Am said "sit down silver boy" we already own the world.

All the pieces matter

I know. I thought I had clicked on a wrong video.

It's like Kingdom Hearts and the side games

It's like a movie where everyone they show you will be used later

I wish it talked more about the Disney side of things rather than that subject only adding up to around 3-4 minutes of a 21 minute video. Otherwise the video did deliver on the title that it was pretty much the entire history of an airline.

They probably liked kids and realized you were pestering kid haters and wanted you to squeak in an audience of moms

Did they laugh and say “sure kid sure”

I’m so mad they don’t do that anymore. I would’ve geeked out SO HARD

​@@emilyofjane Blame 9/11 for that 🙄

Wow! Yea people don't realize how companies effect other people

@@oooh19 Makes me feel bad with disney and google's record of picking up and dropping projects

It is truly impressive how great Eastern was to their employees even despite all of their labor disputes. My grandfather worked for Eastern for 40 years as an Air Traffic control guy and was able to retire in the 80's somehow dodging all of the layoffs of the time. His pension and accrued savings were so incredible they lasted my grandparents 30+ years with ample savings left after he passed, even despite his gambling addiction. That's sort of financial prosperity is simply not possible in our modern economy and it's a god damned shame.

Same thing happened to me when TWA went under

Same situation happened to my uncle when TWA was floundering. He started working there right out of high school, never went to college. But they paid well enough that he was able to afford a house, and set about for the next decade or so working on paying it off using the comfortable salary he was making... then, surprise, TWA is over. He had to struggle for a long time working HVAC maintenance service calls, electrical work, odd stuff like that. He was able to keep the house, fortunately, and eventually find worthwhile pay at a good, steady job, but man, it could have been close. People on top don't realize how their petty fuckery over dollars and cents translates to the real-life struggle of people on the bottom. :(

I believe Lorenzo indirectly affected Pan Am with the bidding war for National Airlines.

*caliber

@@iscander_s Thanks. I've edited the word above.

I believe “Cereal-Box Caliber items” is the scientific term

Kellog's Tier Bullshit

My legacy

I couldn't agree more, well said.

oh stop it. those history tv shows ARE real.

Stevie wdym real ? This is real too it’s just as informative

This 👏👏👏

@@sillygoose635 than what are doing here? go watch REAL content

Ottawa Lad, had Cargojet 727s flying over daily, every morning, waking me up at 6:50 on weekends. Can Confirm.

A bit late, but also wanted to point out that the reasoning ("the sound's always behind you!') isn't how it works at all. Most of the noise from the engines experienced by passengers are the vibrations transmitted through the metal of the fuselage.

-have you heard a 727 taking off- *RRRRRRRRRRRHWWWWHWWRRRWHWH* What I can't hear you!?

Have you seen where they put the Jets????? The pasangers sit AHEAD of the sound

@@ironwoodnf9128 "A bit late, but also wanted to point out that the reasoning ("the sound's always behind you!') isn't how it works at all. Most of the noise from the engines experienced by passengers are the vibrations transmitted through the metal of the fuselage." The comment's just one above you lol

then you know what that means!, a reality show on disneyland employees.

I echo Rico’s observation. Defunctland is presented at a level of both quality and creativity that far exceeds all other theme park KZfaq channels. I especially love how you approach the main subject of each video from an unexpected starting point, and the diverse theming for each video’s intro credits and format. Keep up the excellence, good sir!

I remember watching something on discovery channel when I was like 11 all about the Disney cruises. It was real interesting and made me wanna go one even though I'm afraid of the ocean. But, they dont do these kinda videos there really anymore it seems. This channel really hits that early discovery channel feel, I love it!

RicoGalassi, I hate that all those once worth watching channels have gone the fake reality TV route. Kevin's videos are definitely TV quality.

@Thefirst Decade I like yesterworld content too. Covers theme park stuff also just as good. I alternate between these two.

He’s the slimiest piece of shit to ever be in the airline sphere

Imagine watching your employees trying to collectively sink your company with insane demands.

@@stevenschnepp576 🥾👅

@@fingerprince3737 You really ought to take a proper gander at the union in question, rather than just absorb uncritically what your teachers told you.

@@stevenschnepp576the workers don’t want to destroy the company. They just better working conditions, job security, and better pay. I don’t know much about Eastern Airlines’ finances or bureaucracy at the time so I can only guess the workers demands were more easier said than done.

You could almost justify it by classifying the Confederacy as 'defunct'.

@hi there *atlanta burns in the distance*

Followed by surviving clips of the Cival War

Matthew Chatmon "Defunctland: The Iranian Hostage Crisis"

Too many history videos around anyway, he has a good nitche

terry_r3d what kind of videos do they make?

terry_r3d interesting I’ll check it out👍

If you're into video games, you should also check out Gaming Historian. Similar documentary style videos but about video games instead of amusement parks.

If you're looking into high quality mini documentaries then check out Mustard. He makes very high quality video's on technological wonders and flops and everything in between. Here, I'll link you 2 of them, on the Never built Boeing 2707 Supersonic and the Shinkansen Bullet train kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j59hjdVlnZa4nmg.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ipl8f8qrtMW0on0.html

DrDewott thanks m8 I’ll check them out

dont forget the dangers of deregulation

Sounds like a Wendover video

Honestly, I have a cousin who could talk about trains for hours when he was that age, so it's not too hard for me to believe that a boy from that time would be so interested in airplanes. Some kids have a habit of obsessively learning everything they can about things they like.

Just some kids... Hanging by an airport runway...

@@marleine skipping school.

I was there, filming them, everyone applauded

“. . in the tail assembly! That’s why the ride is so quiet.”

They often start increasing their pay instead and try to sell the problem to someone else once it's clear that it's going to fail.

@@ForeverLaxx they basiclly go "well this dumpster fire's flaming out of control, better take as much water as I can instead of using the surplus I have to try and extinguish it"

"Never" is too absolute a word, but unless the CEO is a company founder, they can tend to be mercenary.

Because greed is crazy in america

Well I mean, their pay usually isn't a huge percentage of the company... but everyone under them adds up

well? did you buy one?

@@realuity3075they had to

Sadly, CEOs like that are to be expected under a system that fundamentally rewards their behavior The will of the worker is not represented in either corporations or government, therefore we have no way to defend ourselves. Things need to change, and I'm done asking

@@ellie8272 I'm still down for the revolution

@@ellie8272 There needs to be a happy median, a culture change. The only people who complain about the system are people who are generally just trash to be honest. They think they deserve so much yet they only complain about the system and are too unmotivated and scared to not take use of it's obvious benefits. This is coming from someone who fixes your airplane for $35 an hour while people go to college get generic degrees (outside of STEM) and make six figures from home. Yes I have a bachelors and yes I'm switching careers.

@@cefb8923 they got you whipped good, boy. you know your place. now sit.

The 70s was a rough time to be in business, especially in a business that needed lots of fuel as an energy crisis defined that whole era's economy. Those who survived had to be willing to take some of the pain themselves, not just put it all on their workers.

Demicratzland

Republicanzland

Part two for “if you had wings”?

The last sentence should be stamped on whenever an Amazon package is delivered.

This is your daily reminder that without workers unions we wouldnt have bathroom breaks, lunch breaks or any safety regulations

Sacrifices have to be made somehow

Let's sacrifice CEOs' salaries then.

Nigel Cam how does that boot taste?

I see you subscribe to "KZfaq Sins" lol

urethra paper cut

Anal injection.

I'd say you'd not want to see it either...

Agreed

No. Are you crazy? He deserves at LEAST a million out of 10!

The finest of bois.

100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000/10 would pet again

Pretty much?

Accurate.

Your comment got me remembering a flight when I was 7. It wasn't my first but it was my first traveling alone. There was a delay due to some maintenance so the captain, who had seen me looking into the cockpit when I boarded, found me and invited me to come see the cockpit. I was blown away by the sheer magnitude of gages, switchs, and buttons there were and that anyone could remember all of them. He pointed out several systems, naming them and explaining what they were for. He even let me sit in his seat with his hat and headset on my head. It was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. Then it got better. When we landed we were delayed again. The captain brought me back to the cockpit and said "let's see what kind of student you are". He pointed to different systems and I had to name each and explain the function. Happy to say I passed. Lol lol.... I earned 2 pairs of wings and high praise from the flight crew. Even today, 40 yrs later, whenever I board a plane I still look at the cockpit and remember that Captain.

@@jackycook64 Thank you for sharing your story. I can understand why that moment was one you haven't forgotten. Some of the most memorable moments in my life involve aviation in some way. It could be a long trip to Japan, or flying over incredible scenery, or even jumping out of planes for fun. Life would be a lot less interesting if it wasn't for the incredible pilots who get us to places quickly and are willing to go the extra mile to make people like yourself happy.

@@SeanFlaharty That day gave me a ton of respect for the flight crew, both the pilots and cabin crew. Respect I still feel to this day. I have had so many memorable experiences during flights and also layovers. Those experiences definitely add an extra special quality to the trips my mom and I have taken.

I made a slideshow for my mom of different pics taken from flights. I hadn't planned on sharing but decided to upload it to KZfaq. Here is the link if you are interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5aigNZm2N6sgZ8.html You are spot on about life being much less interesting without these types of experiences.

Azyr Sharp i am an airline mechanic in training. I learn everything from youtube.

Good luck to you both in the sky’s and the ground... best wishes.. Thorton

Did ya managed to become a pilot :D?

@@uwu-if4jx still working on it! Covid cut into my flight hours that I need to be certified lol

@@azyrsharp8602 Oh not cool D: well good luck then :D

This was very wholesome (:

Six Flags New Orleans closed due to damages caused by Katrina, not business faliures, right?

@@suburbanlegend1997 That's true, but I'm sure there is a lot to why the company did not repair and reopen and they just leave it abandoned. I'm sure if a hurricane did a lot of damage to Disney World in Orlando the company would repair most of it pretty quickly. It must not have been a huge success then. It has also become a hot spot for urban exploration.

@@kylep007 that's true! I didn't think of that, it'd be cool to see Kevin do a video looking further into the circumstances.

Expedition Theme Park just did an episode on it. I suggest you check it out.

@@kylep007 the difference is Disney World is designed for high winds.

when i heard him mention defuntland i got so excited ! cause man i love Both of those things (griffin mcelroy and defunctland, that is)

both things (griffin and defunctland) are great but I just have to shout out the fact that griffin used to vore amiibos

Best dark ride ever, with Mr. Toad a close second.

So is Trump

"planet captain"

@@andyjay729 how? He bought planes and then put in his own company. Edit: oops that was dumb of me, i wasn't listening to the video as much as i thought

Yakupup You’re missing something...

Yeah, both he and Trump used the “bankruptcy” tactics to evade taxes and firing labor force.

He’d probably have to do a second spin-off series, like with DefunctTV. Hmm… Defunct.Com?

Defunct Web?

VMK would be fitting, too.

@@SEGASister Oh shit. Seriously a website defunctland style docu series would be so good.

That's what the Internet Historian is for.

Doesn't sound too far-fetched.

It's almost as crazy as building a European disneypark

@@yeahim4110 And yet, here we are!

@@ChristopherSobieniak at least there isn't one in hong kong right?

@@yeahim4110 www.hongkongdisneyland.com/