Also the issue with the titsnslang is that all the engines are in one area, the point of redundancy is to spread them out across the craft so one big aphe shell doesn't gut the entire room.

​@@scorpion563 the room is big enough that a single APHE can't completely the room, it'll partially gut it, but it won't fully. Although I'd argue it would be a good idea to chuck some armour down the middle of that room and potentially compartmentalise the room more, so that a single hollow point doesn't just render a large area of buoyancy useless, whilst also keeping more of your engines alive on a penetrating shot.

can you explain further how to link two fire pieces please?

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How would that work, seems only of of them get connected and working no?

@@GMODISM I think the idea is to build each of the firing pieces separately and then create a 'bridge' between them so that when one is destroyed the components will be reallocated to the working firing piece. The problem is that you would need to destroy the bridge and rebuild it every time the vehicle is put into play, otherwise one firing piece will take the entire weapon system. I guess you could do that on purpose, where 1 firing piece is supposed to take it all and other firing pieces take over when that one is destroyed, but I personally don't think that's very practical even though it technically works.

Vard. Is that you?

APHE Doom CRAM my beloved

There's two schools of thought when it comes to defenses, and combining them in a single fleet actually gives very good results. The Onion Defense, as you have outlined, and the Immovable Object defense. Immovable object defense is basically, you sacrifice speed for armour, you're big, you have a minimum of triple redundancy in any system with more redundancies the more important it is, and you have fuck tons of active defenses. The Flagship in most fleets should utilise Immovable Object Defense, while the rest use Onion Defense. Reason being, your flagship is going to be your biggest craft, so it's the one that's going to get targeted, which helps contribute to onion defense of your smaller craft.

Good points! Should've mentioned those. 👍

@@BorderWise12 you did already mention quite a bit, so it's fine. The redundant detection is also something you can put on small craft. IIRC, you can make an actual pretty effective detection drone, that doesn't even look half bad, for around 2000 materials, using a propeller and either a single piston fuel engine or a small electric engine, whichever your main craft can provide for better. For an extra few hundred materials you can even give them limited combat ability, using single rail small missiles, adding further weapon redundancy to your craft.

What do you mean 'grid'? You can't use 2 firing pieces in the same system, they have to be separate with no connection points touching. Tricks like rotational symmetry allow you to make maximum use of space.

@@BorderWise12 Faster than I thought lol, thank you! I don’t know all of the technical words, but yeah all the same system, same loaders and whatnot. Any good way to make battleship-like cannons then? May not be the best idea but I like the style points

"Quantity has a quality all of it's own" - Commander Creed, Imperial Guard, 41st millenia.

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offsetting the neck is a two-edged sword. It will make it more sturdy from front, but much more vulnerable from behind (talking about 3x3 neck mostly). Depends on what you will use the craft for, I usually don't do this for my campaign crafts. Also I would disagree about "bigger is better", bigger is more straightforward to build (knowing what works best at what size). Optimizing small craft to the max is so satisfying.

@@michamicha8450 In my opinion if your craft is in a situation where its weapons are being shot in the back of its metaphorical head, that's a tactical failure. In campaign you generally have enough leeway to position the craft so that if facing multiple enemies they're in the same direction or barring that, reduce the volume limit to force 1v1. If you're in a situation where not even that is possible that's a preventable strategic failure. Also I'm not sure we share the same definition for small craft. I'm talking less 1000 cubic meters in volume, 500-600 volume average, that isn't a suicide craft.

@@SuwinTzi arguably, offsetting the neck of a turret with a 3x3 neck one block back decreases survivability - it makes it much more vulnerable to HE, and that extra meter of armour... really isn't going to help protect against much if i'm going to be honest

I separate the neck and put armoring it. It makes it harder for explosions to damage the neck

"Bigger is better" is generally the rule in a 1v1, but in the campaign you don't have to fight 1v1 battles. The single best armor is not being the one they're shooting at.

It's better in the sense of redundancy only: single larger systems tend to be more material efficient, and often cheaper. Depends on what you want to prioritize. 👍 Not sure what you're describing with the railgun issue? 😅

@@BorderWise12 For what I can gather, steam engines are actually efficient when they are full. The burning rate lowers when they reach maximun capacity. So several steam engines might not use a lot of materials unless a pipe breaks and has to burn all over again. Regarding on the railgun issue. I remember a video months past regarding you making shotgun cannons? Well I tried the one you did with the railgun, but when it shoots, the frag modules doesnt explode with the timer set as soon as they leave the barrel. They continue on and explode on contact with ships. I set timer to the minimun, but its like the bullet its too fast for the tracker to keep up and activate timer or something.

​@@solitaregames so, the timers detonate the shells however long you set before/after the estimated time of contact, let's say your shell is traveling at 2000m/s and you set it to detonate 0.1 seconds before the target, it's going to detonate 200 meters from the target, at 0.01 seconds to the target, it's going to detonate 20 meters from the target, and so on and so forth. The main reason to use timed fuses, is to covert misses into potential hits via splash damage of some kind, be it explosive or frag. In my personal experience, use timed fuses for CWIS systems (Anti air or anti munitions, same principle applies) and use either pen depth or intertial fuses on regular guns, which fuse you use depends on whether you're more worried about the shot bouncing or about the shot overpenetrating.

@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 I have the timers to the must minimun. So yeah I do believe the shell is shot so fast the timer cant pick up.

@@solitaregames yeah, in my experience, timed fuses are better at lower velocities, as you can set them for relatively longer times, but still be effective. (If you're using HE or Flak CWIS, you generally want to make it so that the timer will detonate the shell such that the enemy is within the blast radius, even if you have to essentially cripple the shell to do it) Just remember, a CWIS system is generally effective within a kilometre to 500 metres as a maximum range, so it doesn't really matter if your shells are only moving at 300m/s. But yeah, rule of thumb, timed fuses are less and less effective the faster the shell is meant to go.

Um, no? Not sure what you're referring to. Ejectors work with any size shell.

The "100mm maximum length" is just how much the part contributes to the length of the shell. Normally a shell component is as long as the diameter of the shell (example: a 500mm HE body is 0.5m long), but a fuse or defuser will never be longer than 0.1m even on a 500mm gun.

Ah, ok. Thank you.

@@reeereee7600 To further elaborate, Ejectors are two metre modules that mount onto the autoloaders, the shell component you're asking about is the emergency ejection defuse. An optional addition that protects your ship from the warheads of your own shells being spewed onto it. Only use if you have a payload on the shell. Furthermore, the fact that some shell components are only 10cm long means that you can often squeeze in some extra gunpowder. (Usually only a partial charge, which I didn't even realize could be done for a long time).

​​@@carlborg8023 you should really stick a emergency defuse on non-rail/rail-assisted kinetics as well, as the gunpowder can detonate as well without the ejection fuse, if the rack is hit. The other way around this is just saying "fuck it" and only using autoloaders, with no racks, as they won't explode, although this is less material efficient and generally has a lower fire rate, but it can be exceedingly useful on smaller craft and things like tanks.

Maybe? I could certainly try to change the turrets to dual-barrels.

@@BorderWise12 Agree for fight with Ragnarok Brenzo !!