Deuce's HYPP Attack

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Olive Shupe

Olive Shupe

4 ай бұрын

Please do not use this footage without my expressed permission.
The following clips are of my horse Deuce experiencing HYPP episodes throughout the years. His status is N/H.
Here is how I would describe HYPP:
Hyperkalemic Periodic Paralysis (aka HYPP) is an autosomal-dominant genetic mutation disease that effects the sodium ion channels of horses, and are often characterized with a muscular appearance. Horses with this disease are known to be decendants of the 1969 appendix stallion "Impressive". Although, it has been said that his dam, "Glamour Bars", was truly the one responsible for the introduction of HYPP, as she had foaled 2 others with the disease that had no relation to Impressive.
Horses with this disease can be tested with a 5 or 6 panel test by sending their root hair foilicles to a genetic testing lab. There are three possible results: N/N, N/H and H/H. N/N horses are completley uneffected by the gene. N/H horses are heterozygous and carry one copy of the gene. H/H horses are homozygous and carry both copies of the gene. N/H horses can be just as symptomatic as H/H horses due to the gene being autosomal dominant.
Symptoms of this disease may include: muscle tremors or involuntary muscle contractions, sweating, feverish or dull attitude, prolapse of the third eyelid, loud breathing noises, muscle weakness, tying up, collapse, and cardiac arrest/respiratory failure.
Causes of the attacks are due to abnormal function of sodium ion channels. When an excess amount of potassium is present, the sodium ion gates stay open, allowing the excess to flow into the blood stream, causing involuntary contractions.
Treatment of the disease include a low potassium diet (less than 1% potassium in an entire day, including all forage, grasses, & concentrates, or less than 33g of K per meal) and a low stress enviorment/lifestyle. Avoiding high potassium feeds such as kelp meal, molasses, pink salt, alfalfa or orchard grass, soy meal, and electrolytes. Foods that may benefit are white salt, oats, barley, corn, and timothy hay. It is best to feed small, frequent meals to stay within potassium limits. Soaking hay may also be beneficial, and turnout is very important. Access to clean water at all times is most important. The use of acetazolamide is often a reliable treatment aswell.
-Olive Shupe
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@PaulaR-mp9di
@PaulaR-mp9di 4 ай бұрын
I made sure my QH mare was HYPP neg. It amazes me that it is still in the bloodlines. Bet if they weren't registerable, it would go away quickly!! Your Deuce is a lucky boy to have you for an owner. You are doing an amazing job and his coat gleams with health. Beautiful.
@OliveDeuce
@OliveDeuce 4 ай бұрын
You are right, and Thank you💖 he actually also has had other health issues like DSLD, cellulitis, ulcers, pastern dermatitis and much more. He has been through a lot, but he is still his happy healthy self despite it all!!
@bridgetveralidaine3761
@bridgetveralidaine3761 4 ай бұрын
I'm really glad you posted this, and I hope your video gains more traction. HYPP truly has not been taken seriously enough. I was given a QH about 15 years ago as a kid when owner went off to college. Sure enough, Impressive-bred, N/H. He had mild episodes at the time, and even through strict diet management, each attack did get worse. He passed away of cardiac arrest in the midst of an HYPP attack and the vet had strong suspicions that it was directly related to HYPP (heart is a muscle, and muscle is required for respiratory function). I used to be passionate about being anti-breeding N/H horses, but at that point, those in the industry would just shrug it off or tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about. The amount of nonchalance surrounding the issue was frustrating. Thanks for continuing the education. Hopefully this genetic disease will be a thing of the past during our lifetime.
@OliveDeuce
@OliveDeuce 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this comment, I really appreciate it. I’m glad others are able to see the importance of it as well, and that you can say you’ve shared a similar experience to me. HYPP is not going away anytime soon, so I hope you keep advocating. I have many friends with NH horses going through the same thing. It is always tragic because these horses end up having the best personalities and usually become out heart horses. I am also sorry to hear about your friend.
@deborahnovak2386
@deborahnovak2386 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! You did an awesome job with it! I My horse gets really tired after an attack, but maybe not all do? He paws at the ground, gets sweaty, head bobbing, twitches and rubs his nose on stuff, likes to be alone, doesn’t want to eat. Also when i did my test on him i used his registration number so if anyone else had him they would see it on his papers. I’m going to have my horse sitter watch this! You did such a great job! Thank you!
@LiftedBlack
@LiftedBlack 4 ай бұрын
I have been aware of impressive bloodlines for over 35 years, how is this not known more? Weird thing is , Now learned my mare had all the bloodlines like Poco Bueno, King, Hancock, and others and she was perfect with no problems thank god. She was an impressive 1400 and stood at 15.3. Buckskin Mare.
@barbrice721
@barbrice721 2 ай бұрын
The woman that had the stable where I kept my horse had traveled west to get a breeding Stallion for her barn. A couple people wanted her to buy something with Impressive bloodline. The stallion she bought had no Impressive blood in him . Thank Goodness.
@conniewolf7300
@conniewolf7300 4 ай бұрын
I cannot believe they still allow those horses to breed and be registered! Unbelievable! It just goes to show you that the AQHA is about nothing except money!!!
@christianlutes5593
@christianlutes5593 4 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you for sharing your story.
@deannahammond4090
@deannahammond4090 4 ай бұрын
I can't imagine what you are going through, both you and your horse are in incredible! You are incredible to get this information out there! I remember back in the 1970/s when this was first found, not much was known about it but I also remember it was downplayed as not being a big thing. Quarter Horses were big business and much of it was downplayed even when it was found how serious it actually was. Too much money was, and still is involved, and we all know how that works! Of course people still breed these horses and that is a crime. Any horse that has Impressive should not be bred but that will never happen, money will always rule. After all these years nothing has changed and it never will, buyer beware! So sad!
@OliveDeuce
@OliveDeuce 4 ай бұрын
AQHA made a proposal last year discussing the ban of registering N/H horses, so I believe some change may happen in the near future. Something must have got their gears turning. Atleast, I hope so.
@skidaddle32
@skidaddle32 4 ай бұрын
Not too long ago Terry Bradshaw (former quarterback and now sports announcer) had a dispersal sale of most, if not all, of his breeding stock quarter horses. I was shocked to see that all of the brood mares that I saw being sold were HYPP NH. I couldn’t believe my eyes! All of them!! HYPP is absolutely still out there. Have QH & paints you are considering buying tested (I use UC Davis) before purchase! I also know of a horse that died from HYPP (12 yo QH mare). She collapsed, seized and had to be put down on the spot. It was horrific.
@OliveDeuce
@OliveDeuce 4 ай бұрын
@@skidaddle32I knew that name sounded familiar… I saw it a lot at quarter horse congress with the studs
@deannahammond4090
@deannahammond4090 4 ай бұрын
@@OliveDeuce A proposal last year! Wow! What year was that, oh yeah 2023! Too little to late! And who cares if you can't register the horse, that won't stop people from breeding these horses. Lots of unsuspecting people will still buy unregistered horses. "Some changes may happen in the near future". Again too little to late!
@deannahammond4090
@deannahammond4090 4 ай бұрын
@@skidaddle32 See my comment above, too much money is involved.
@ninja1antelope
@ninja1antelope 4 ай бұрын
Good to know
@drummerlovesbookworm9738
@drummerlovesbookworm9738 4 ай бұрын
🤎
@QHGUYNTX
@QHGUYNTX 4 ай бұрын
Questions. 1. Is he on acetazolomide? 2. What changed when he was 9 to make him symptomatic? 3 why are you feeding grass hay and a sweet feed? I’ve always fed my NH horses oats and alfalfa and supplement when I’m fitting them. The three most common causes of an attack are stress, diet and a barometric pressure change.
@OliveDeuce
@OliveDeuce 4 ай бұрын
Clearly, you did not watch the video completely if you are asking these questions, as ALL of your answers are within the video, in great detail actually. But I shall explain it in greater detail to you. 1. Yes he is. I explained that I started him on it 2 weeks ago. 2. A lot of HYPP horses are “asymptomatic” for a long period in their life, and suddenly become symptomatic around 10 years of age. This is actually very common. Or, if a horse has shown symptoms since a young age, a lot of times those symptoms worsen as they age. However, when he was 9 he was sent into training by his old owner to be started under saddle. That very well may have triggered symptoms, but either way I personally believe he would have ended up showing them eventually. He has had several health issues including ulcers, cellulitis, pastern dermatitis, rain rot?, skin scalding, cribbing, severe thrush, and now diagnosed with DSLD so those may all have been stress factors and that was all followed with many different medications and stall rest. But he now lives a very stress free life out in the pasture with friends. He is simply a high maintenance, expensive, pasture pet at this point, living out his retirement. (Even though his riding career didn’t last for a year 🤣) 3. Alfalfa hay is on the DO NOT feed list for HYPP horses and is highly advised against, due to it typically having the highest potassium content as compared to grass hays (although the best thing to do is to test your hay). That is why I feed Timothy grass hay, as that is considered the best option for HYPP horses in terms of potassium %. Additionally, I also soak for 1 hour so it is almost completely potassium free. Purina Omelene is a textured feed that was recommended by my vet. (Textured feeds are also highly recommended over pelleted feeds for HYPP horses). He was getting Purina Strategy Healthy Edge, but she recommended to change to this due to a lower potassium content and high starch content. There is detailed information about this on Purina’s website on HYPP, but Purina uses an oil based molasses which is safe for HYPP. The high starch content can act as karo syrup would. So, during feed time, the high sugar can create an insulin spike and help put potassium back into the cells. This grain as worked well for him so far especially considering he is a moderate keeper. Oats are a good option, which he is also getting. There is also oats in Purina Omelene. 4. It is still unknown today why some horses are more symptomatic than others. Meaning, we still don’t 100% know what is exactly causing these attacks. I have linked sources in the description with the latest research. Explain to me the reason why when my horse has an attack, it seems to affect his respiratory, and he has never tied up or collapsed. But when my friend’s horse Phoneix has an attack, he ties completely until he collapses, and has never been affected in the respiratory aspect. He has also shown symptoms his whole life, while Deuce has not. They both have been fed HYPP safe diets, just not treated with medication. Explain to me why some horses are fed completely incorrect diets for this disease, yet they aren’t as symptomatic (YET). Explain to me why most people do not soak their HYPP horse’s hay (which is the most reliable method for decreasing daily potassium) yet some horses continue to show symptoms and others don’t. Or, explain the horses that are seemingly asymptomatic, but the owners wake up one morning to the horse dead in its stall…That story has repeated itself so many times, and it’s a tragic one that many share. It could have been me also, had I never done my due diligence. The night where I came to the barn and Deuce was having loud respiratory noises, no barametric change had happened, and he did not seem stressed with me. He was just in his stall causally eating his hay, like nothing was happening. You can see as I pull him out of the stall, he was still trying to eat hay off of the floor. The truth is, as I said, the disease is full of uncertainty. You could go to every absolute measure of preventing an attack, and still not be able to manage the disease.
@Pawsome_Equestrian
@Pawsome_Equestrian 3 ай бұрын
Hi,hope he feel better! why he has that on his neck what does it do?
@OliveDeuce
@OliveDeuce 3 ай бұрын
It’s a cribbing collar to prevent a horse from cribbing, which can do a lot of damage to their incisors and cause other health issues.
@railwaychristina3192
@railwaychristina3192 4 ай бұрын
What about gabapentin or other anti seizure sodium channel inhibitors?
@deannahammond4090
@deannahammond4090 4 ай бұрын
What about them? Your part of the problem if you think there is a solution.
@OliveDeuce
@OliveDeuce 4 ай бұрын
Forgive my possible ignorance here, but I believe gabapentin is use for pain relief for nerves, which would not apply to HYPP horses. Acetazolamide has many different uses within people and animals, and one of them is actually to treat epileptic seizures.
@lindaowens933
@lindaowens933 4 ай бұрын
They bred these horses just for looks the halter horses are not natural looking big bodies little feet it is so bad what are doing to these beautiful animals it needs to stop let horse be natural as God ment them to be not what people want to look like
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