Did A Hidden Buff Make This Unit Overpowered?

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4 ай бұрын

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@Gnolomweb 4 ай бұрын

Comment for the algorithms

@cawcasian820 4 ай бұрын

A fellow man of culture

@gnrfan010 4 ай бұрын

yes

@69zirc 4 ай бұрын

Reply for the rythm

@luciusbouchard3533 4 ай бұрын

Keep the beat coming

@maxn2009 4 ай бұрын

I think harstem did it

@wolvie90 4 ай бұрын

Can't do that while occupied Can't do that while occupied Can't do that while occupied Can't do that while occupied Marc: Why can't I neural this?

@josephvdlinde 4 ай бұрын

Was thinking the same thing.

@alsto8298 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, was also obvious that there will be a problem if transport is not empty. The feature is hard to understand, tricky to implement and pointless to spend time on - so obviously devs did not bother about it.

@phillgizmo8934 4 ай бұрын

I believe you can neural an empty drop ship though. Correct me please iiaw.

@pirds102010 4 ай бұрын

@@phillgizmo8934 sure you can, it says "while occupied"

@UnemployedProfessional 4 ай бұрын

He played the game so much he doesn't look red texts to the left since years I guess x)

@shtechvn 4 ай бұрын

14:00 - You cannot cast Neural Parasite on a Transport with units inside, you can however Neural Parasite an empty Transport.

@Ockerlord 4 ай бұрын

Can you load your units in?

@BillyCarsley 4 ай бұрын

No @@Ockerlord

@MegaTpyn1 4 ай бұрын

Every zerg player knows that, so uThermal is not assimilated enough :D

@Name-ru1kt 4 ай бұрын

I knew this already but now that I think about it. Could you use nueral to check if a medivic is empty or not. Say you have your infestors far away can you use press the nueral button to see if its like a fake drop or how many are filled.

@BillyCarsley 4 ай бұрын

@@Name-ru1kt I love realizing stuff like this

@kdimitrov89 4 ай бұрын

Imagine neural-ing the adept in the wall and opening it for your zerglings - this will be a high tier move!

@Deto128 4 ай бұрын

I don't know if you could get this out early enough for it to be useful, though

@zes3813 4 ай бұрын

wrrg

@phillgizmo8934 4 ай бұрын

Historical fact: It was after Beastyqt's series mass infestor to GM when they FINALLY removed infested terrans. I also remember noticing how fast you regain enough energy to respawn enough infmarines in order to secure safer retreat, like simply moving from one side to the other side of a small map was enough for 50+ regen.

@TheMuffinman191 4 ай бұрын

Infestors can’t neural a drop with units in it. The prism is immune 14:11.

@uThermal 4 ай бұрын

That's cheating fr

@TheMuffinman191 4 ай бұрын

@@uThermal Fungal stops the drop and pickup function thankfully so you can cheat back.

@raghardeishi972 4 ай бұрын

@@uThermal You can imagine that units inside took control back into their own hands. When it's empty, there are no hard core soldiers that could beat the mindcontrolled crew members.

@inquisitormalleus6435 4 ай бұрын

@@raghardeishi972 I'm imagining this with a mine drop where the Widow Mines hold the infested crew hostage at missile point.

@heavenstarcraft 4 ай бұрын

time to load all my prisms with 1 probe XD

@TyGuy92 4 ай бұрын

Do you think you could do a challenge where you beat people with their own race by taking one of their probes/scv's?

@dardarkbinks9105 4 ай бұрын

Give a like to this man!

@sinner5452 4 ай бұрын

That would be fun but in the same time too smurfy. That obv will not work above diamond, so most fun will came out of low-elo struggles versus great and powerfull Marc.

@Mackintac 4 ай бұрын

@@sinner5452 nah it can work above diamond for sure, just not consistently. I'm not nearly as good as Marc is but I've done this a decent amount of times against other GMs

@joelv4495 4 ай бұрын

Pretty sure Harstem did this challenge once on BGMWSS... He successfully built some offrace buildings but it took too much focus from actually trying to win the game.

@joelv4495 4 ай бұрын

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@dillyduncs 4 ай бұрын

Literally clicking on top of the message, "You cannot do that while occupied", wondering why you can't do that was hilarious.

@enriquegarciacota3914 4 ай бұрын

“I must be missing something obvious”

@artyfac3 4 ай бұрын

imagine looping lings past the overlord so they think you're spamming units at them. When in reality you're droning

@Viruzzz 4 ай бұрын

"Why can't I do that?" Can't do that while occupied Can't do that while occupied "I must be missing something" Can't do that while occupied Can't do that while occupied Can't do that while occupied Can't do that while occupied "I am so freaking confused right now"

@GomiBombs 4 ай бұрын

This is so fun to watch you do as this has always been my strategy against late game toss or tier 3 tech terran or toss. So cool to see you use the power of the neural. I basically do this exact army comp except im a little greedier with macro and add corruptors to the mix because they usually make carriers or terran will make liberators for the ultras

@Chris-si9in 4 ай бұрын

On the first map I like taking the gold as my natural and making some speed lings and banes to defend and then expanding and turtling up the entire map after

@BillyCarsley 4 ай бұрын

Someone brings Marc a menu in the restaurant. "I'll have everything."

@michaelswain868 4 ай бұрын

@Uthermal You have to try roach/ravager/infestor/ling you can just do some hard shoves and fungal/bile combo makes your roach shove so much better. It would also play into your wheelhouse of timing attacks and lower base counts for builds. Whilst Ultras or whatever is something you could always transition into.

@thefirstsol1770 4 ай бұрын

Immortals, they are obviously protoss units, so they kill stuff pretty fast. Its good to have some on your side (c) IdrA, 2011

@davecolwell725 4 ай бұрын

I love that you're more and more getting natural and automatic at spreading creep!

@dakkath414 4 ай бұрын

13:20 the game doesn't let you neural transports with anything loaded in them

@Talentaire 4 ай бұрын

Oh** I did not know !

@taytertot9382 4 ай бұрын

Really liking this build so far. Would love to see more!

@AC3handle 4 ай бұрын

Marc channeling back to the days of dark archons and mind controlling shuttles and other transport and getting everything inside as well.

@BillyCarsley 4 ай бұрын

Would it be possible to find an enemy overlord position, and then rally like 10 zerglings around it several times so it looks like a massive ling flood is coming?

@quanqued 4 ай бұрын

The buff is being controlled by uThermal.

@Poldax 4 ай бұрын

If I was controlled by uthermal would I be buff too?

@TheMuffinman191 4 ай бұрын

@@PoldaxYes. Uthermals units get more damage by default. It’s like a 33% increase to worker killing efficiency.

@deropl2667 4 ай бұрын

Uthermal should be the new champion available in this new RTS for grass type race :p

@inthefade 4 ай бұрын

@@deropl2667 And his weapon should be literal cheese.

@ZeliardFTW 4 ай бұрын

10:25 Observer in your base I noticed ;)

@user-cg9sl2cj9o 4 ай бұрын

Excellent read on the Zerg player! And the Neuro colossus was awesome !

@meppieomg 4 ай бұрын

Zerg played like this is just too entertaining. Great games.

@bobzombie2710 4 ай бұрын

*Can't do that while occupied* *Can't do that while occupied* *Can't do that while occupied* *Can't do that while occupied* _Why the hell can't I do that_ 😂😂

@McmMacky 4 ай бұрын

I feel I watched a Dark game with this build a long time ago. And the upgraded zerglings were the heroes of that game too. I keep wishing pro games would utilize upgraded lings even at a long game, like quickly dispatching unit producing structures vua flank, drops or nydus.

@Yumari-Mai 4 ай бұрын

Maan, I was rooting for ling-infestor action since forever! Awesome to see it play out like that. GGs and here's to some more of these

@AlexandriaLibraryGame 4 ай бұрын

Textbook, this could be a tutorial campaign mission teaching you counters

@Tom_Tom_Klondike 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, thermy!

@user-ft7np6rb3r 4 ай бұрын

the only problem with your Zerg game is that the videos are too short 😍

@CMZneu 4 ай бұрын

Good video, more of this! plz

@balazsfenyes3880 4 ай бұрын

If u play with infestors, when comes the challenge when you steal a probe or scv and build your own hybrid force:) u cant neuro transport that has units inside it seems.

@LukasSklenar 4 ай бұрын

A cherry on top would be burrowed hydras to catch out mutas 🙂

@2019inuyasha 4 ай бұрын

I thought perhaps a few void rays to pull your ultras out of position, but with spores and neural, plus not much left to defend base with. protos would still be in trouble.

@slutmonke 4 ай бұрын

you should try infestor drops on the mineral line the same way protoss does purification novas on it.

@CreepingTerror 4 ай бұрын

I am ready for some science!

@loudaccord 4 ай бұрын

These spellcaster vids are so much fun

@Breakfast221 4 ай бұрын

Great games in this one. Crazy how good your zerg play has gotten. You're making it look easy to beat a top 15 GM.

@0vermind333 4 ай бұрын

@uthermalsc2 as I heard, loaded transpots and Motership cannot be nevraled. I think its because what should you do with units inside

@MrNamnieks 4 ай бұрын

Hey uThermal! I've been watching most of your videos and I'm a big fan! Wouldn't it be cool to do a series of Zerg gamecheese going for crazy Dropalords + Nydus surprise attacks!? I vision seeing dropalords flanking from (seemingly) no where and drop a Nydus and support squadron meaning to protect the nydus. If the nydus survives out comes the queens marching while another 2 overloards dropping creep for transfuses? Could also have drones dropping to create spine crawlers or why not a hatch to tank? xD Is it possible to make a build out of that? I have barely played sc2 at all, only watched.

@stefanfrank7426 4 ай бұрын

You can make a build out of anything if you play at low enough mmr, thats the whole point of this channel. If you play vs low mmr opponents who dont know the response, anything works

@koval4ukos 4 ай бұрын

We need more Zerg games like this 👌

@goalieguy55 4 ай бұрын

on the maps with gold bases wouldnt it be a good idea to send a overlord to watch it just in case they take it early?

@thecommonsensican 4 ай бұрын

Marc, was so bummed when you said you may not be uploading as frequently. Understand a lot of work goes into it, but so grateful for your regular content. Only YT show I watch everyday. Have been a subscriber since 16k. So happy for your success at 120k! 🥳🫡

@travisthompson5913 4 ай бұрын

Hi marc. Love your videos!

@Dawindell 4 ай бұрын

Always love to see Ultras

@wschmrdr 4 ай бұрын

"Can't do that while occupied".

@Chris-si9in 4 ай бұрын

There was a wol pro called sjow who used fungal mass ling in zvz to win

@Secre.SwallowtailYT 4 ай бұрын

13:51 you can't while it has something being transported in it.

@malcolmchambers6133 4 ай бұрын

Infestors make for the most entertaining sc2 I’ve seen in a while.

@robertof.8174 4 ай бұрын

The hatch was not in the control group, the second in the main, it was a lot of larva there, gg

@Scawtsauce 4 ай бұрын

I used to not like to watch you play protoss or zerg, you were noticeably worse. now you play very fluidly and it's great to watch!

@jimdelsol1941 4 ай бұрын

You can't neural something with units in it for some reason. I tried in the unit tester a while ago. (I guess the error message "can't do that while occupied" that you had in the bottom left corner was about that)

@A-wx5fs 4 ай бұрын

wait so you can't neural transports with units inside? They should change that just to make Zerg Nexus/ Command Centers more of a thing, neural a transport, pick up a probe/scv, abscond with it to be safely neuraled into making a base back home

@davidelrizzo 3 ай бұрын

Any time Ultras come out is a good time!

@anarchya505 4 ай бұрын

TOP PLAYER!

@simontrepel7652 4 ай бұрын

Really love your videos dude!! Thanks for all the time and effort you put in to entertain us!! All the best

@Chris-si9in 4 ай бұрын

Uthermal with fast queen injects and more creep would genuinely beat pros ez

@Kirk.television 4 ай бұрын

Let's go!

@tyrothphoto 4 ай бұрын

Bring back the posting every day uthermal!

@soju69jinro 4 ай бұрын

was it really worth using neuro on the immortal in g1? Toss had mostly zealots, archons, HT, and adepts. no immortal benefits.

@uThermal 4 ай бұрын

The immortals are the only thing that can kill the ultras :P

@asdfasdf-mn8iu 4 ай бұрын

There was nothing hidden about the buff to infestors, it was just masked by the nerf on fungal range and damage (which was really pointless, might i add).

@kyle52245 4 ай бұрын

Loving this zerg style!!! Ling / Ultra + XX !!!!🥰🥰

@omry77 4 ай бұрын

What happens if two enemy Infestors are neuraling one another at the same time?

@gaba023 4 ай бұрын

I have never tried it, but don't see a reason for it not to work. Now I want to try. - edit: oh, I misread the comment. I was thinking I want to use my infestor to control another infestor, that I then use to control another enemy unit or cast a fungal.

@LeeMes1 4 ай бұрын

even if perfectly timed one will be cancelled

@leafykille 4 ай бұрын

Nice games :)

@artemirrlazaris7406 4 ай бұрын

Cannot do that while occupied... was the message, becasue ownership of the units inside are not neuroed, so there would be a ownerhsip dsicrepancy. THe logic behind this was lore wise, is how cna you take control of the mind of something in which is housed with other minds, so its liek a tehter leash psinoically or overlordy.. lol... or liek medivac cant be taken over... because marines owuld steer the ship... It has ot be empty that is why you can't take it over.. fungling though to make the oppenentm aybe empty it, but there are some interesting things. with vehciles that trasnport other units. AN scv on auto repair mode will auto repair the medivac and prevent it from getting mind controlled... A medivac that is 6 marines adn two scvs, repairs at twice the speed and can easily get into bases with lots of turrest or anti air... but if you doing a mine drop of say two spider mines or three, you can have a medivac that is never at isk of being shot down.. you can even go 4 scvs, so it repairs 4 times as fast.. THe devil AIR shttle, there are other species combos with their unique trasnports. IT sucks.. but yeah.... Just thought it was funny because like me I rearly read the red print on teh screen, whe nI am like why doens't it do that.. olol

@BoostedFA 4 ай бұрын

Got a discord?

@mindormood1 4 ай бұрын

You can't load units into mind controlled units. Similarily: You can't mind control Overlords, Medivacs and Warp Prisms that have units inside them.

@LittleBebeBoy 4 ай бұрын

awesome

@BillyCarsley 4 ай бұрын

Parasitic bombs are amazing if you use 3 at a time

@omer-kinali 4 ай бұрын

Both games were so good!

@ZelfFS 4 ай бұрын

Wish the High Templar spawned with enough energy to use a storm or they didn't take away the upgrade that gave them enough. RIP Protoss

@enriquegarciacota3914 4 ай бұрын

Well they can do an archon right from the go. Infestors literally could do nothing.

@SomeOneElsePirskap 4 ай бұрын

You can neural only empty vessels

@freakydeath33 4 ай бұрын

lurker builds!

@jacobnelson2608 4 ай бұрын

13:26 You can’t neural a transport that has units inside. Tried on the uni tester and the game doesn’t let you

@davidstud3952 4 ай бұрын

so what's the hidden buff?

@LOTSL 4 ай бұрын

Remember when infestors could: insta fungle neural for unlimited duration neural'd units could move map wide neural while burrowed spit out infested marines while burrowed its all nerfs

@maximk9964 4 ай бұрын

Pepperidge farm remembers

@gaba023 4 ай бұрын

No I don't remember unlimited range units or unlimited duration. I really miss infested terrans though. I won quite a few very late games with those.

@mattronin2647 4 ай бұрын

Keep playing random - eventually your zerg will be better than your terran :D ! Regarding capping the warp prism, isn't it because it has units inside? I believe that's what prevents you from capturing it?

@njdarda 4 ай бұрын

why does 99% zergs just defend forever when this is what you can do with the race?

@adelinared1 4 ай бұрын

You have a dutch accent, are you dutch?

@chill_fridge 4 ай бұрын

yes

@dry_snail1040 4 ай бұрын

14:04 maybe because it has shit in it ?

@cilibriel 3 ай бұрын

Commenting to help Mark . Cuz I am poor and can't give him money.

@michaelswanson3848 4 ай бұрын

hey uThermal your video on my screen only has a dislike button and no like button you my want to send a complaint to youtube to get that fixed

@zes3813 4 ай бұрын

wrrr

@jetsyrup481 4 ай бұрын

14:04 lol read the text on the left of the screen bro

@maximk9964 4 ай бұрын

You kids think Infestor is OP? Bah, back in my day they could spam infested terrans (free marines, basically), now that was a really chad infestor, not like the virgin one they have now 😔

@TheMuffinman191 4 ай бұрын

Oh yeah who didn’t love having their army fungalled then having a million higher hp marines with INSANE AA GUNS thrown right onto their army.

@Aintbafool 4 ай бұрын

Infested terrans aside, fungal growth used to be a point and click spell with no travel time and 60 damage vs 20. Can't believe how powerful that spell used to be.

@MatheusGomes-ej3mr 4 ай бұрын

oh those were good times, except for when they were not.

@afwaller 4 ай бұрын

Those were the worst times actually

@jorgegrijalva6281 4 ай бұрын

Infestor must be remove from PvP games, its completely OP, as always Zerg being strong lol

@robertbarclay228 4 ай бұрын

Comment to say thx

@Tom_M_Riddle 4 ай бұрын

It’s not called an “overlord pillar” it’s official name is a “pervert pillar”

@BillyCarsley 4 ай бұрын

Viper > Ultralisk

@ajlee613 4 ай бұрын

omg first

@RavagHer 4 ай бұрын

naa zerg is still trash towards to late game. its why zergs like dark is doing cheeses more cuz he knows he probably has the same if not better chance of winning that letting it go towards the late game....bring back the infested terrans.