It’s so crazy to think Eugenia is older than Jordy. The difference in maturity is astounding.

Eugenia is 100% NOT heroin chic. She is way beyond that.

i still cant comprehend why anyone would send money to these people doing absolutely nothing on their couches

TikTok needs an auto pop-up warning for her content, ie. "This site may contain images that could be harmful to young viewers", and then you have to press cancel or confirm to access her stream. I'm surprised their legal department hasn't implemented it already. 😬

She could ignore all the troll questions in her chat, but she doesn‘t. She reads them on purpose. And that‘s also why the trolls continue.

I find it absolutely hilarious that Jeffrey called someone a “keyboard gangster” but then curses and threatens people through a short on TikTok 😂

“How is, like, anyone alive, I guess!?!”, followed by a condescending smirk. She really is making me angry now. Gone are the days when my heart hurt a bit when seeing her. It’s honestly aggravating, how cavalier she is with the facts of her own health and as an extension, her young audience’s- some of which might also be in the throes of a severe ED. I’ve been advocating for age-restricting her channel for a long time now. She might not say that an ED is a great lifestyle, but by not addressing people’s concerns and gaslighting, she is normalising it. I hold her responsible for perpetuating this issue in some of her viewers.

Hi Jordy, last Christmas I went to visit family. There were several children visiting aged 4 to 10 and they all spent the entire time in the room next door making those silly dance videos for Tik Tock, using the 9 yr old's phone or borrowing a parent's phone. It honestly scared me that all of them talked about nothing but Tik Tock whenever they came in to show us the videos. On a separate note I have a family member who is 8 years old who started refusing to eat and was asking to go out for runs with her Dad because someone had called her fat. She isn't, but if kids are tuning in to see people like EC and that body shape is being normalised, I don't see how it isn't damaging. I hadn't realised just how desensitized I had become to this until I was at band practice and showed a video to my friend. His reaction was utter shock. My husband refuses to even look at the screen if EC is on it because he gets so upset by it and he has asked me to not tell him things about her because he gets so upset by it. For me it's a complex reaction because I know this is not good, but I have suffered with EDs myself in the past and there is always part of my brain that is shouting "body goals" at me. If I watch too many clips of her my eating habits change. If it's affecting me as a mature 50 year old, how can a much younger audience make sense of it all? Anyway, sorry for writing an essay but I watch all of your videos and never actually comment even though I have strong feelings

Came for the ☕️ stayed for Jordy's random outbursts of hysterical laughter.

I believe that an age restriction would be more than appropriate. She uses her little girl voice, wears ponytails all of the time and dresses in clothing that is child like or costume like. She sits in her pink room with her stuffed animals. That would be very interesting to young, impressionable girls. It's very easy to be drawn into the "I need to lose weight" rabbit hole especially when you are young.

Pray for Jordy. Nothing’s wrong, he just deserves all the blessings and protection God has to offer. ❤❤

Hey Jordy, i wanted to answer your question from the last video which was, is there a term for Eugenia answering a question by just rambling on and talking in circles? It's called equivocating! And yes, politicians are masters at this lol

Its going to take the grieving family of a victim to ana having to sue TikTok for them to put warnings on her videos. And no, Kate Moss and Eugenia are not the same. Kate Moss would be offended by that comparison.

When my friend was going through this back in high school in early 2000s, she definitely had an air of entitlement and came off as catty because the disease told her she was better than everyone because they wish they had the "courage" and "control" to do what she was doing...

The fact she was granted a license is *WILD* - How is that allowed? She is mentally and cognitively compromised through severe starvation. I was not allowed to get a license when I was suffering from anorexia - I was denied because of the state of my health and my mental and cognitive impairment. Eugenia would be a danger on the road... What the hell!?

The part where Debs texted and told her to bid on something for her brother was one of the most telling things I've seen from her. When she wasn't able to purchase in time there was genuine stress and discomfort. Her body language completely changed like she was panicking. I wonder if she's been reprimanded before for not buying things for people when she's told to.

She was very quick to set the record straight with the diaper, but not the door. Why not prove chat wrong with the door too?

If there is not an alarm on her door then she needs to show us her door. The fact that she won’t means she has something to hide.

I'm a little older than you and I was so used to seeing sickly-looking bodies. We had Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Nicole Richey, Mary Kate Olsen, and even before them, Calista Flockhart. We also had the pressure of the clothing. Super low-rise jeans gave even the skinniest people muffin top. I dealt with a lot of issues with weight and food and even though I was 93 lbs I felt so fat in those jeans and still had love handles. I grew up with the "heroin chic" models and it was so normal, but honestly, the most triggering thing for my eating issues were movies about people with eating disorders we watched in school. There was one called For the Love of Nancy that starred a girl who was recovering from an eating disorder. That felt like a how-to guide.

She wouldn't let her content be age restricted because only kids and teens watch her...and creeps with a fetish..

I realised how desensitized I've become when last week I tried to show my husband something in her video and he was eating and he got mad and said "I'm trying to eat, that's disgusting" 😬😬

I'm a Nana who didn't have to worry about the Internet when my kids were growing up. There is no way the parents can control everything their children see. Even if they can at home, they'll be at friends' houses, etc. I think parents just have to talk to their children more about certain issues and not be afraid to get specific. I now have a two year old grand daughter and I don't envy my son and his wife having these challenges in front of them. When mine were growing up there was no internet in every home.

EC really loves playing the victim. "Oh, you mean wittle old me? But I would never, I'm so sweet and kind! I'm just living my life and being positive! 🥺👉👈" It's truly so fkg annoying. Playing the victim, being rude and snide to ppl, acting like she's better than everyone else, but always protesting she doesn't when called out for it. Being a bully to gain the good graces of a narcissist millionaire that probably doesn't even like her, but uses her for his own benefit. She knows what she's doing. Also, that whole buying something for her brother incident is very telling. She's the cash cow. Does this elude to the theory that Deb doesn't get EC help because, as she put it, she "wants the money!!!" Interesting 🤔

If she would just be straight up with people, she wouldn't have to constantly address they wild conspiracies. But she loves it, and she has no other content otherwise.

I’ve noticed since she went home from the birthday event she doesn’t speak to Jeffree on live anymore unless he is in the comments. They don’t battle or share screens. Seems like since his launch is over his need for her is gone too. Just something I’ve picked up on

I’m psyched you mentioned my comment for community corner! Thank you for further elaborating on it because that’s exactly what concerns me. If I’m so desensitized from it what are these children watching her thinking!? Especially when she keeps reiterating that she’s “perfectly fine”.

jordy is the only youtuber that makes me actually laugh out loud. his humor is so dead pan, I love it.

I really think TikTok should be shut down permanently.

Beep beep, WHO’s there? ….the door, the door who?! 😂

Yes, my opinion of her has definitely changed… she has become so toxic, and I’m in my fifties, a big supporter of free speech; I honestly believe that she is preying on young girls not just with the body thing, but also monetarily.

I showed my 86-year old mom some of Eugenia’s videos as we were talking about social media influencers. She was shocked.

I agree that her videos should be age restricted however I don’t think that’s the whole issue. I personally feel like a large portion of her audience is fetish based. I say this bc I’ve had many ppl follow me for weird fetishes before and it’s uncomfortable and weird but I think she loves that kind of attention. I do not lol.

She won't open a door to prove there is no weird alarm but ten minutes earlier she was flashing her shorts to prove it wasn't a diaper 😂. And I laugh hysterically. Her audience is extremely observant. Hahaha

One day he will threaten the wrong person and he could be charged with terroristic threat if he just happens to use the wrong verbiage. It can happen. In the beginning when I first found out about Eugenia, I felt sorry for her then over the course of time my opinion went to the point that I see someone who has a shallow, mean side. What she labels as hate is people just speaking the truth or expresses concern.

Hey Jordy! My daughter is Gen Alpha (age 10). She's popped into my room as I'm watching you videos and was immediately shocked when she saw Eugenia. When she asked me what's wrong with her, I explained that she has an illness (I'm disabled so she may be more knowledgeable than the average child on mental and physical disability). She was immediately worried about EC and asked me how she can survive like that and why she's not in a hospital. So even children have a rudimentary understanding that something is wrong with her and find Eugenia alarming and my kiddo has had access to technology and the internet in some capacity her whole life.

The desensitization breaks for me sometimes. There's three moments off the top of my head: 1. Seeing comparisons between her from this year compared to last year. I hadn't realized she'd actually dropped more weight, I thought people were being overdramatic. 2. Recently seeing a group photo of her with Jeffree and the rest of the birthday gang. You can see the outline of her lower jaw where her teeth meet her jaw. 3. When she posted a makeup video a while ago. I think it was the first one she'd posted in a long time. She wasn't afraid to actually move her hair out of her face, and at first I thought it was confidence. The type where you accept what you look like, but I realized later that it's because her face was finally as thin and slim as she wanted it to be. Which is then I realized how thin and gaunt her face looks now.

The more she talks about the door beeping, the more I believe the door beeped.

Jefferre going off on others reminds me of Dwight Schrute whenever Jim plays a prank on him. Like dude, calm down. It was just a Scorpio cake. 😂

I seriously can’t stand her anymore. She’s so toxic. The gaslighting and victim mentality is so beyond sickening. I used to feel badly for her but not anymore, not even a little bit. She’s rude and completely delusional. I understand she’s not well and ED is a mental illness but you can’t possibly be this stupid not to realize you have a serious issue that’s killing you. If she just came out and said, “look guys, I know I have a problem. I appreciate the concern but I don’t care and this is how I choose to live my life,” I’d have so much more respect for her. Thank you for your commentary Jordy, your videos make my day. I work on a farm in a tractor all day and you keep me entertained. Keep up the great work! 🫶🏼🥰

When Kate Moss looks positively ‘healthy ‘ in comparison…. you know there’s a problem! 😮

Best explanation ever. “ It’s not really a door”. 😂

Jeffrey wouldn't risk wrecking his face with a fight.

The thing that annoys me about Eugenia is that her stating that she didn’t mean to come across a certain way is not only negligent and lack of accountability, but she never attempts to learn from these moments. She makes the same “mistakes” over and over again without any care or a desire to learn and/or change.

It’s so wild to think that a majority of Eugenia’s social interactions are with a computer screen. No wonder she’s so awkward arround other people in real life, she’s rarely had the opportunity to interact with non-family humans. So bizarre. It’s like some Black Mirror sht.

Good morning Jordy and party people!!

Im alarmed every time I see Eugenia. I don't think that will change. I won't get used to it, that's for sure.

I was in high school during the heroin chic phase. It definitely impacted a number of girls and boys in my school. Lots of diet culture in my high school at the time. 😢

I was in this live and when she pulled up her sweater to show her shorts i felt flashed. Idc what she says, and many others in the chat shared the same sentiments

She is breaking terms of service. Although it wasn't intentional, she said the N word. She constantly flashes the veiwers.

I was making my tea just now while watching this video and my husband came in to put a dish in the sink. He glanced at my tablet and said (I shit you not) "oh, that lady's still alive? I heard she died." And I almost fell over.

I am 39. I was a victim of heroin chic for years. Starving myself and working out extremely. Thankfully, I feel better now.

21 year anorexic here with, perhaps, another view into the world. Some ED’s are begun by the lack of a sense of control in one’s life. I was a healthy, active, happy 15 year old who went from athlete to bedridden overnight from a sports injury. I never once thought I was too fat, needed to lose weight, etc but I suddenly had no control over my life and the only thing I could control was food. Flash forward 21 years, I still have to fight massively hard every time a life situation that I can’t control comes up and to not restrict my food intake is the first instinct. Eventually, the disorder will turn into a food/calorie/weight/body image thing but it never begins that way. It’s just wanting some control over your own life when it seems like you have none.

Btw, lol..... I'm probably one of your oldest watchers (loyally I may add).... I was a teen in the 80s and saw it all. God, I miss those days. But yeah, heroin chic was a thing and almost everyone was skinny (even if you look back to the 80s rock bands) but absolutely not even close to Eugenia. When I first saw her (maybe a year or so ago?), my jaw dropped. Since then, she's gotten even more emaciated and gaunt. And yet, I'm not shocked like I once was. I am literally shocked is all so I watch.... like a typical 'train wreck' situation. And you are one of the few and only content creators (that I know of) that go deep with the philosophical aspects which I thoroughly enjoy. So, thanks :)

Good morning Jordy! I’m home today recovering from a surgical procedure and I’m so happy to watch a new video to take my mind off of stuff. Love you lots!

Maybe EC thinks if she leaves her room her mother with have a heart attack with her “weak heart”

Really good point about the shock wearing off. It’s SO dangerous for young people to be watching. ED becoming normalized, even envied. “ Heroin Chic” will be replaced with “Eugenia Chic”😢😢😢

Jordy, I love how frequently you are uploading lately, but you cannot upload fast enough for me. I watch you every day in the background while working 😊love your insights and funny commentary.

My 7 year old is banned from Tiktok. That was after I found out that she had secretly posted HUNDREDS of videos of herself. 😐

My husband had never heard of Eugenia, He looked her up to see if he knew her and he had to shut it down because he was so disturbed.

I don't know how someone can live like a child 24/7 day in and day out her entire life. I have secondhand embarrassment not only for her but all the people that actually use their days spending money on this stuff....sunglasses, a tomato lands on her, cowboy hat...all these ridiculous things for absolutely nothing. Mind you, I have friends and family and neighbors that LOVE cosplay. They dress up daily in their outfits and their own funky fashion just like Eugenia, if not even more extreme, BUT the difference is these people have lives. they live. They have friendships with people they see outside of the screen, and not just in it, go to the movies with friends, boyfriends and girlfriends, hang out at bars, go on vacations, live in their own apartments, etc etc. She has deteriorated her life away like she has her body.

She gets SO TRIGGERED when someone talks about diapers. She snaps

I’m 20 going on 21 next month. Early high school was the tumblr era. I discovered tumblr somehow and I would go on it on the bus everyday before school. It was lots of pictures of rlly thin women. I wanted to look like them so bad. I started changing my eating habits and was underweight for years. It wasn’t until this year I’m at a healthy weight now. I struggle everyday with food. It doesn’t matter that I was looking at that when I was 14. It follows me everyday still. Long story short just because heroin chic was a trend doesn’t mean people who lived and participated in it aren’t still struggling everyday today. Love you Jord thanks for giving us some logic behind this madness.

Actually, she does have a door monitor. I have them on my doors that enter outside. It was exactly the same sound. Having them on inside doors is weird, but definately heard it too. That family is so paranoid and weird.

I am in my 60’s and have always been thin. I eat everything and just finally gained 5 pounds over my average weight all my adult life. Eugenia is starving and her body isn’t just normal. Being people thought I might be ANA made me mad, so I do recognize it when I see it. I wear a size 3 junior, so not all of us skinny/tiny people are sickly. I have muscle and was always an athlete.

Instead of people gifting her, take a trip yourselves.

😂Jordy, luv your laugh-you had me crying “I think they’re only like a 100 coins” & “why did the door beep?”😂 💕

There's nothing confident about Eugenia. Don't confuse denial with confidence!

Did anyone see the video of Jeffrey yesterday, where he said he was doing a lot of self-reflection about his health the last few days? I am sure whatever type of sick he was the last couple of days had some to do with it, but he said he stopped drinking Red Bull, and he just feels he needs to focus on his health. I am not sure if seeing Eugenia has anything to do with it.

I'm a 2000s kid. I remember seeing all the stick thin models. I also remember when all the girls in my class would cry when they finally hit 100 lbs. Even though it was because we were healthy and growing. I'm so happy we moved past that...

THEY NEED TO BAN TIC TOC!!!!

Jordy, your laughs and chuckles are genuinely therapeutic! Your commentaries are better than seeing a shrink for real. 🐸

No this is not heroin chic at all. I Guess Taylor Momsen would be one of the last recent examples of someone who projects an image of “dark, distressed beauty” who is extremely thin and doesn’t look like an image of health, yet EC is still worse (for lack of a better word) than that. Plus the models of heroin chic have an air of confidence and personality which really plays up the whole look (which EC ofc does not have). Anyway at this point EC seems impossible to romanticize or glorify, she looks like an image from a medical textbook.

I grew up obsessed with Kate Moss, and was triggered by her when I was in denial about my AN. The thing is though, Kate wasn't emaciated, like Eugenia. You really can't compare the two, IMO. And when I spent 6mos in residential, when a patient came in looking like Eugenia everyone was shocked by the level of cachexia. Heroin chic, while triggering, didn't desensitize the population to severe emaciation. It's the same with Twiggy in the 60s. BTW I love waking up to Jordy and Cooney drama! Thank you, baby!! 🩵

I just can't believe how Eugenia made the excuse that her name wasn't there so that's why she didn't want to stream. I call BS. She just wasn't getting her normal daily handout of donations. STOP GIVING THESE PEOPLE YOUR $$! It's gross that they get paid to sit on a live video and don't even do anything!

Eugenia needs a lesson in compassion and intent vs impact. Intention does not MATTER if your impact is harmful. I also agree with you, Jordy - I don't think it's right to "ban" Eugenia from social media but her presence is harmful and I think an age-restriction would be a good step to take. But, kids will always find ways to get around it so I just don't know how to feel, which sums up seeing Eugenia in general.

I absolutely love that you give people the benefit of the doubt. Having started my own ed in the 80's and needing in patient treatment off and on til 2012. Plus my job in social work, i have known hundreds of people with every type of ed. When in patient for 6 or 8 weeks, you get to know people intimately. The very nature of an eeating disorder is an obsession with weight, food etc. It's part of the diagnostic criteria. There is a twisted idea that bulimia ranks above binge eating disorder and anorexia ranks wayyy over bulimia etc. Eugenia is hyper aware of how she looks. Bodychecking is also criteria. I did see a report that tiktok is adding ed behavior as against tos because of the Eugenia publicity. It's becoming a bad publicity issue. For Eugenia, pairing up with Jeffree seems to be the most toxic combo ever. ( you happened to say toxic just as i typed it 😊). Realistically, Jeffree is middle aged and not dealing well. Eugenia is 30 and can't get away with the naive, young thing. These are 2 people who can't handle aging yet insist on putting their lives on line. I have said before that if i was exposed to this at 12 or 14 i would have followed my ed til i was dead. She makes it very clear that her view on treatment is negative and people who want to talk to her about recovery are haters. This is 100% trolling. You're right, she's mocking them. Jeffree makes it clear that he thinks her behaviour is hilarious. He encourages the trolling. This is the twisted "ranking" in ed world that i referred to earlier. The talks of ed patients or those in the pro ana community do see this level of emaciation as superior. Websites dedicated to how to "beat" a feeding tube etc. Pro ana world really is shocking. Sincerely, to any girls admiring Eugenia. If you admire her make up or fashion etc or the tiktok battles ..hey....do your thing. When it comes to food and weight and her saying she's fine. She is not fine. Please do your own research about healthy weights and foods for you. Call a help line. Look at recovery sites. Sorry to go on a rant about this. I do hope tiktok is making changes. About the beeping and alarm....is this group paranoia? Ninja warrier..Mindgame edition? 🤪 ok. Got it. He's wonderful and amazing and she's not really hiding something. Did the edibles just kick in? I feel like i have the answers to life now.😮

EC freaking out about the time left on the ebay auction or whatever sounded EXACTLY like deb when she was upset about the washer staining her whites.

Apparently there is a trend going on on social media where grown women pose as highschoolers. Nancy Grace did a video on this. I think this is going on here as well - a 29 year old women posing as someone much younger and speaking to an audience much younger than herself. Keep up the interesting conversation, Jordy!

My hair straightener beeps a few times once it’s reached its temperature, maybe that’s the beep they heard that they think was the door 🤷‍♀️ She did leave to fix her hair so….

Good evening - well 1am in Australia. Loving all the EC content. Keep it going. And love your candid attitude and you got the best laugh and sarcasm.

Hey Jordy maybe we should do a live where we look back on your first Eugenia video and just see how things have changed and you’ll probably really see a difference in your reaction (desensitized)

Jordy! I am utterly ENAMORED with you. Your articulate and educated responses to these situations are really great! I don't know your educational background or even what you might do for a living besides KZfaq, but you are like a top college professor or top lecturer level! I would love to see a video about yourself and you talking about your life, but i know that is up to you as to what you feel you want to share. ❤❤❤

Also for the age restriction thing that needs to be parents. Parents need to know what their kids are watching online.

Good morning Jordy! Thank you for all your hard work and good content. It helps take my mind of things. 😊

I was actually on tiktok and came across her live right before the point when they were talking about the door ordeal... it was a bit weird because she got up to fix her hair which meant she left the room and when she came back everybody was talking about the beeping noise of the door but she was rambling about something else...she was reading the comments of people saying "open the door, open the door"... you could tell she was reading them but acted like she didnt see the comments about the door and then all of a sudden she said she lost her chat and couldnt see the messages and it went dark for a few minutes....when she came back only then is when she was acting like she had read them for the first time and was saying "what are y'all talking about my door?".... the snide little laugh after that was a bit concerning and I can see why people thought something was up and she was trying to cover it up.. it's almost as if she left and went dark to go fix it.

Jordy... I just died when I saw the heroin sheik backdrop blast from the past😂 I'm in my 40's and remember the "thin was in" fashion statement. Kate moss thin was an acceptable goal to have, being anything more was fat and shamed. I was called chubby and fat but looking back I was almost skinny by today's standards.

Jordy the chuckle you do when you crack yourself up always makes me laugh so hard.

Hi Jordy, Apparently Tik Tok has expanded the reporting section, to people that have An ED, or seem to be harming themselves, or have toxic content, whereas it was very vague and specific before, now there IS a block to tick off for that now. It's worded for ED's, which is GREAT!!; so she no.longer has an excuse, its not "false reporting", that has always been her excuse, and why she kept coming back. I really think maybe Tik Tok is "trying" to step up by doing this. God I hope so.

YES! There clearly was a BEEP when she closed her bedroom door. There’s a SHORT video out on YT.

Aw, man, Jordy, you are so funny, I almost spit my coffee when you said, "You used to get something when Jeffree beat you up. You used to get a lip gloss." 🤣 I guess instead of a lip gloss, you'll just get a fat lip. No need for lip filler if you cross Jeffree! LMAO!

I really struggle with the concept of taking her offline or restricting her. There may be people who are too young to realize looking like her is dangerous. At the same time we have countless examples of people using extreme means to change their appearance whether it's sugery, filters, body modification or whatever and we dont force them to disclose or age restrict them. Also existing online while mentally ill, which is what this is regardless of other problematic parts of her personality / choices...i don't know. I would be afraid to ban her and create a slippery slope of discrimanatory practices. I think that she wears her mental illness on the outside, and otherwise she wouldn't be interesting or get as much attention. The whole situation sucks for everyone.

It’s WILD that we can look at that and think “normal” for her… I ALSO showed my mom a video of Eugenia then vs now, she was appalled. She thought she had cancer.

My kids are 8, 12 and 13. None of them have phones. They have all had tablets since probably age 5, but they are not on any social media (except youtube kids, which can still be absolutely abhorrent). They have all talked about their classmates having phones since probably 2nd grade. If I could go back in time, I never would have even introduced the internet, until maybe the age my oldest is now.

Yes, when she entered her room an alarm clearly sounded off. It’s at the very beginning of this video/live.

I don't understand why the same people keep coming back and watching her lives. It's literally the exact same thing every single day. How are they not getting bored or annoyed with her? How are they not starting to see through the bullshit eventually? I can not wrap my mind around it.

My father has dementia. My mother and I keep bells on the door so we know if he tries to escape. He's 88 years old and got out before and tried to hitchhike into town. Maybe the bells were for the grandmother....I don't know. That whole family is on the spectrum. And, does Deb have an accent?

In the fact that she says it's not her intention it's even worse in some points because if you don't know what you're doing to kids's brains That's even worse in my opinion

18:10 “you are just getting a bloody nose and a black eye, no lip gloss” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you always make me laugh so hard, Jordy. Jeffree and his empty threats lol

I love my mornings with Jordy ❤

Good morning! At work right now listening while I clear out my inbox 🥰