Did Christianity Destroy Paganism?

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@TrailandBackAgain Жыл бұрын

Doug, this is a rock solid response. I have enjoyed many of his videos over the past couple of years, but this video certainly needed a response. He does not seem to want to discuss the issue on his platform (although he brings it up a ton) so this may be the only way to try and engage him about getting his facts straight. Not everyone’s video on YT needs attention, but he has a large platform and I think this is needed. Very well done!

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark! I share your thoughts. :)

@chadalexander1924 Жыл бұрын

You know someone is entrenched in their views and myopic when they don't want to have a discussion about them.

@lyterman Жыл бұрын

Very excited for your "Christianity from the ground up" series. Don't mean to hijack your idea, but it would be especially interesting to me if precisely why Christian claims over and above, say, Jewish and Muslim claims to revelation are dependable is a topic within them. Excellent work as always, Dr. Beaumont.

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

That will definitely be covered. :)

@lyterman Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasBeaumont I'll be waiting with bated breath!

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

@@lyterman Full disclosure - it'll be toward the end. ;)

@gilsonrocks4740 Жыл бұрын

This video is a much needed counter to the notion that paganism is somehow closer to nature than Christianity. "You've got to appreciate the irony of a Viking complaining about hostile takeovers" - priceless...

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Agreed. And yeah I couldn't pass that one up LOL!

@triciaworld 24 күн бұрын

Thank you for sharing

@Kej121 Жыл бұрын

Hello Mr. Beaumont. Would you tackle indulgences? It's on of the biggest stumbling block for me. Thank you.

@voievod9260 Жыл бұрын

Stop looking at the Catholic church as being the one to represent Christianity. Alot of atheist or ex christians who abandon the faith are very ignorant when it comes to the true Christian Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church.

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

I'll put it on the list!

@voievod9260 Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasBeaumont which attitude?

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

@@voievod9260 A comment that apparently got deleted. :)

@Defectivegg Жыл бұрын

Love your responses in both videos. Although I don't belong to any organized religion, I do believe in God and Christ and his teachings. But what is disturbing is the fact when you see comments, a lot of people are praising him and of course a lot of them are pagans themselves. Or so they call themselves like that. And these people ignore the fact that paganists in the past sacrificed people to their gods. Nowadays they show their faith through offerings of flowers and plants. What is going to stop them from sacrificing people if hypothetically they become a dominant religion. Which ironically would just prove what Revelations told us about our future. And from my observation in what is happening today we might see the resurgence in paganism and idolatry because it suits to the people in power. Sorry for any grammar mistakes, English isn't my first language 😅

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

With abortion lawful in so many places in the west, is not a stretch to think it could happen.

@americandissident8245 Жыл бұрын

Im a Christian and I commented on Bull hansens clip and I don’t understand why people blame Christians for the deeds of evil men, im glad someone else responded to what he said! I just hope and pray that they can someday know the same Jesus I do !

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Amen

@TheThreatenedSwan Жыл бұрын

Or not even evil men just knee jerk reactions to the kind of universal violence that offends modern liberal sensibilities

@davidiancrux Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@hglundahl Жыл бұрын

4:56 The description is fairly accurate, but St. Olaf and Norway are an outlier on this one.

@mkultrahikes Жыл бұрын

That was very interesting.

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Thanks trail bro!

@hglundahl Жыл бұрын

3:29 _"Christianity was forced on people in Norway by etc."_ While St. Olaf was a bit rough, so were his pagan opponents. He ignores the slow Christianisation of Denmark and Sweden, as well as the unanimous decision to become Christians on Iceland. Even so, Norwegian pagans in St. Olaf's day were a far cry from the plight of Azteks at the hand of Spaniards in alliance with such Indians as the Azteks had oppressed ...

@davidcanasberroteran4647 Жыл бұрын

I recently came up to this video by the algorithm, and it really did not disappoint. Curiously enough I encounter a similar video called “How Christianity was Forced on the Germanic Peoples” by a channel called Norse Magic and Beliefs. It had a similar premise, and I was looking for answers to this issue, but thankfully I encounter this video and it answered my questions. Thank you

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Go algorithm! :)

@pedrogabrielduarte4544 6 ай бұрын

The same thing happened with greek and egyptian people only indian and japanese Polytheist gods are still Alive

@DouglasBeaumont 6 ай бұрын

They never were alive. ;)

@chadalexander1924 Жыл бұрын

Brother, this is a wonderful rebuttal. Keep up the good work!

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated.

@praveendsouze Жыл бұрын

"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." (Ecclesiastes 1:9), people are now turning to the old pagan ways.

@trenthobson2756 Жыл бұрын

I really love a lot of what Bjorn has to say, but the Pagan stuff in so foolish. We all need to pray for him, that the LORD might speak to his soul and bring him into the Kingdom of Heaven.

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Amen

@TheThreatenedSwan Жыл бұрын

There's really not enough information to even reconstruct Germanic/Celtic paganism. People are just larping, and most or those people are far left spiritualist types.

@RetroFan 3 ай бұрын

#1. That's not true and #2. Bjorn is not leftist at all.

@TheThreatenedSwan 3 ай бұрын

@@RetroFan I don't assume he's a leftist. I'm pretty sure I thought he wasn't, but it's remarkable how people who advocate for paganism as this based return to tradition don't address that modern paganism is overwhelmingly left wing

@RetroFan 3 ай бұрын

@@TheThreatenedSwan Hmm, maybe in the US, not sure about Europe.

@GB-xt4hc Жыл бұрын

Well, Norsemen.

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

@dominicconnor3437 Жыл бұрын

I'm a member of his channel. He used to never talk about religion but something changed. The Russ Vikings are recorded doing human sacrifice and the historical finds in graves prove this. I'm no history professor but from what I've read they worshipped real Gods not symbols of nature and symbols of the mind.

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I've only followed his content for a while (and usually just when something jumped out at me). Lately he seems to have gone down the rabbit trail of conspiracy theory and now this.

@RetroFan 3 ай бұрын

What changed is trolls on his live stream on Bjorn Talks and even phone calls while he was asleep.

@Jameskenomis3 Жыл бұрын

I liked his Channel until he made that video. Thank you for this response. I plan on staying subscribed to his channel, but if he keeps blaming Christians I will have to go.

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Same.

@RetroFan 3 ай бұрын

He made that video and talk about Christians because regularly Christians would troll him on live stream and even started calling him during the night while he was asleep. You would get frustrated about it too.

@crossbearer6453 Жыл бұрын

Christianity pushed back or completely destroyed paganism And given many of their practices, people should be thankful it did

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Indeed. You might have noticed the Aztec example. ;)

@robertmccabe8632 Жыл бұрын

Yes, one can't divest yourself from the reality of the only two options. In the beginning Yah created the heavens and the earth. Or you wirship creation and insult Yah. As in HaleluYah. Christ ian. Pronunciation of words is force of the law by the Yah. In the beginning was the word and the word was with Yah and the Word was Yah.

@crossbearer6453 Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasBeaumont Yh And not to mention the pagan practices of my country If it weren’t for Christianity, oh boy....

@theautisticcatholic Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasBeaumont Yes, the practices were repugnant for sure, but I love to learn about Greek and Norse mythology from an intellectual and scholarly perspective. And interesting fun facts about the belief system of the Vikings. For example, the Vikings also left offerings to other beings in the spiritual realm. They left offerings of butter to the Elves, for instance. I'm not interested in becoming a Pagan (the more horrific aspects of paganism have seen to that), but there are things we can learn from our pagan brothers and sisters. Thank God paganism was pushed back. But I'm also grateful that we can study it, especially the not-so-repugnant aspects, because the mythology is fascinating. Jimmy Akin's podcast is devoted to exploring weird phenomenon like this from the perspectives of the faith reason and he said in one episode about kabbala that we can and should respectfully learn from each other. We may not agree on everything, but we can have enriching dialogue. If anyone is interested in Norse mythology and the Old Norse language, I'd recommend Dr. Jackson Crawford. He has a KZfaq channel about that stuff from a purely academic and scholarly perspective. I'd also recommend the website Ancient Origins, which also has a section dedicated to mythology. Again, the website looks at stuff from a intellectual and scholarly point of view. The website is about understanding the past from a scholarly/intellectual perspective.

@johnemagnet667 Жыл бұрын

Excellent, the algorithms have done their job this time. Subscribed to both your channels as I have a keen interest in both. I've been wanting to explore Christian theology more recently, with the emphasis on the esoteric rather than the exoteric organised side which I think leaves a lot to be desired. I've followed Bull-Hansen on and off for a number of years but have become progressively more irritated and annoyed by him. Perhaps I've just worked him out, and I have been one of those trolls in recent days I'm not too ashamed to say! He has clearly exploited the Viking image which is gaining traction amongst disenfranchised young white males. He postures like a wise learned monk, whilst taking 20 mins to make 3 salient points. But it's his greed which really gets me. He's obviously a millionaire with a savvy business brain but along with his ads and Patrion revenue, he's now scrounging on his live channel with 'super chats' donations. We're in quite dangerous and polarising times, and for a grifter like this to be potentially pushing naive young minds towards the likes of Asatru bugs the crap out of me. Excuse my rant and look forward to your continuing series Douglas!

@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын

Rant appreciated! I hope you will enjoy the content on my channels. :)

@RetroFan 3 ай бұрын

I don't know where you get the idea he's a millionaire because he isn't.

@johnemagnet667 3 ай бұрын

@@RetroFan Of course he is. He has a large house with abundant acreage obviously near suburbia. He has 1M subscribers, ad revenue, Patreon revenue, sponsor revenue, and 'side lines. I wouldn't care if his work had value but I don't believe it does. He was on the right side of covid and gave me a little comfort until I realised what he is. All the best to you!

@RetroFan 3 ай бұрын

@@johnemagnet667 He's a novelist, has been for years and wrote his first at 19. He began youtube as a side thing and didn't have many subscribers. I remember when he started. Also, even if he was a millionaire, so what? Are we going to talk about how much wealth the RCC has?

@johnemagnet667 3 ай бұрын

@@RetroFan He doesn't publish his novels in English last time I looked. Why is that? He made his name and some coin from powerlifting. If you benefit from the guy all power to you! In my my opinion Bull Hansen is a fraud and a grifter.

@paoloforever2 Жыл бұрын

I have noticed lately that he gets triggered when he simply hears the word "Christian", "Bible", "End Times" etc. He calls it rude when someone just mentions these words. If he had just ignored Christians, who are commenting on his life streams/channels, nobody would have ever noticed his "nervousness" regarding this subject. It's a pity because with many of his subjects I happen to agree with him (liberty, pl*ndemic etc.).

@dantobarbarian4842 3 ай бұрын

Maybe he's possessed by demons! They twitch when they hear the name of our Lord Jesus!

@ironcladranchandforge7292 11 ай бұрын

I wonder what you think of the Inquisition and a few hundred years of European "witch" burning? Leaves a bad taste concerning the Catholic Church in many minds to this day. You seem to judge other religions, have you judged yours fairly? Although I'm not a Pagan, I've noticed you like to judge Protestants like myself with equal vigor. Have you no shame?

@lilla3716 9 ай бұрын

I agree, seem there is a blind eye for all the horror which was done in the name of GOD ! I also don’t think that nations who lost a war have a choice in anything…..so they could not have said they don’t want to become Christians as they would have been killed. Also there are lots of history of pedophilia and women abuse. I am Christian but once I learned about history and the corruption I stopped going to the church.

@davidcanasberroteran4647 8 ай бұрын

Did you know that Henrich Krammer, the writer of the “Maellus Maleficarum”, was censored by local Church authorities, and even the Magisterium were trying to prevent him from delivering his work? Did you know also that most Witch Hunts were more abundant in Germany, and Switzerland, followed by France, rather than Spain, Portugal, and Italy? And that also Spain was the first to doubt about the validity of Witch Trials and the death penalty? Which eventually led to the cease of all Witch Hunt in Catholic Europe?

@cernunnos8344 4 ай бұрын

In defense of Christians, witch burnings and the Inquisition never even got remotely close to what most people think they were, now I wish Christians had the same level of honesty as us about what pagans actually were like, and while I can't speak about Germans and Norse (they did quite a bit of tomfoolery in my country) my ancestors weren't the human sacrificing savages portrayed by Christians, and Christians do have a lot to amend for in their community before they go and judge pagans