Protestant Responses to Catholic Arguments (with Karlo Broussard)

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Douglas Beaumont

Douglas Beaumont

Жыл бұрын

Here I have a discussion with my friend Karlo Broussard of Catholic Answers about his new book, "Meeting the Protestant Response" (a follow-up to his previous book, "Meeting the Protestant Challenge"). In this sequel, Karlo goes over numerous Protestant "comebacks" to Catholic claims based on Scripture, and we go over a few of them here.
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@TrailandBackAgain
@TrailandBackAgain Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! Another video. Can’t wait to view this tonight
@lidiadelacruz3492
@lidiadelacruz3492 Жыл бұрын
Great video, would want to see a part 2!!
@tommaxwell429
@tommaxwell429 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, these are the same questions RCIA candidates have. There needs to be more open discussion about these issues up front. Every Catholic should be prepared to answer these questions. As a newcomer, this is all very overwhelming, and I find it sad that there is so much bickering. My path to Catholicism was pretty much a straight line. I started looking for a Church and within days I was overwhelmed by the sheer number of Protestant options available. How can they all be right? Why the separation between Protestant and Catholics and why is the chasm so wide? i.e. Catholic/Protestant wars in Ireland. I think everyone is looking for the Truth but the mysteries of God and Christ make a sure thing impossible to find. I quickly accepted the historical argument, why did Protestantism disregard the first 1500 years of Christianity in forming their dogma? They will argue they didn't, but in my mind, yeah they did. I still struggle with many of these teachings and justifications for them, but I had to settle on one faith and jump in. To me Catholicism made the most sense and I believe that as I dig deeper into it and answer more and more of my questions, it will make more and more sense to me. It is a bit overwhelming, I mean if people who spend a lifetime researching, studying, and analyzing this stuff can't come to an agreement, what chance do us lay people have of ever coming to the Truth. Personally, I think this is what chases a lot of people away from religion entirely. I'll order and read the books. Thanks for the video. We need a lot more of these.
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
The RCIA I direct deals with these issues because I think they are far more important than they were in the past. It is especially confusing for those without anyone to guide them because the internet just dumps claims on people and it can be - as you said - overwhelming. But if we start well with good principles I think a lot of the mess can be cleared away. :)
@tommaxwell429
@tommaxwell429 Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasBeaumont Thank you for your reply. I am early in my RCIA journey but it appears that my Church is doing the same thing. Perhaps that is the outline for the Church worldwide, as it should be. I struggle with what appears to me to be contradictions. We accuse others of cherry picking verses yet we seem to do the same thing. For example, we say the story of Genesis cannot be taken literally but yet we say we are all direct descendants of Adam and Eve. We say the Bible is full of symbology and metaphors, but yet we must view the Eucharist as literal. How does one figure out which is which? Can people live to be 600 years old? Did the great flood really happen and was there a great reset of mankind, so we are all now direct descendants of Noah and his family? Did Jonah actually live in the belly of a great fish or is it a metaphor for his rejection and isolation from God? Well God can do anything so he could surely make it so, or is it just another story? As I try to shed my modern materialistic world view in favor of a spiritual world view, these questions become very challenging for me. I do believe in God, the details and nuances are a struggle. For now I am deferring to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the likely Truth in a 2000 year old tradition. Thanks again! I enjoy your videos, your positions are well thought out and backed up with explanation and evidence. Regards!
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
This is a perfect illustration of why Protestantism doesn't work! :) The Bible does not color code its literal vs. figurative verses, and it rarely "interprets itself" as Protestants like to claim it does (ironically, in one of those rare instances it WAS explained figuratively LOL - see Galatians 4:22-30). So, trying to build one's faith from the Bible up simply creates chaos. The Church, instead, takes what it learned at the feet of the apostles and hands it on. That deposit of faith helps guide the Church in its interpretation of Scripture (not vice versa). Just as we can better understand a letter - regardless of the style in which it is written - when we know the person who wrote it, the Church teaches what it already knows and has taught for 2,000 years (and, occasionally, things extrapolated from those teachings).
@seanthompson5077
@seanthompson5077 Жыл бұрын
Our Lord spoke in Aramaic, which only contains one word for rock, not multiple.
@voxangeli9205
@voxangeli9205 Жыл бұрын
@YAJUN YUAN , "assembly" instead of "church," huh? (Chuckles.) Hmmnn... Why is that so, dude? And also, can you pls explain why Peter is given the keys...
@RumorHazi
@RumorHazi Жыл бұрын
@@voxangeli9205 Direct typological reference by Christ to Isaiah 22:22 in giving Peter the keys. Hope that helps!
@voxangeli9205
@voxangeli9205 Жыл бұрын
@@RumorHazi, HELPS WHAT?!? (Chuckles.)
@RumorHazi
@RumorHazi Жыл бұрын
@@voxangeli9205 He wanted to know why Peter was given the keys. The keys were the authority to bind and loose and to forward that authority to future generations.
@voxangeli9205
@voxangeli9205 Жыл бұрын
@@RumorHazi, TO FORWARD THAT AUTHORITY TO FUTURE GENERATIONS?! WHY, YOU WANT TO REJECT THAT PASSING-ON OF THAT BINDING-AND-LOSING? IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD DO THAT, THEN ALL OF US WON'T HAVE A BIBLE TODAY, LET ALONE AN AUTHORITATIVE, INERRANT AND INFALLIBLE COMPILATION OF HOLY BOOKS DEEMED TO BE SELECTED TO BE INCLUDED TO THE FINAL CUT OF THAT BIBLE, DECIDED THROUGH THE GRACE OF GOD BY THAT VERY SAME PASSED-ON AUTHORITY -- THAT COMPILATION AS INITIATED BY THE AUTHORITY OF A POPE, AND HIS NAME IS POPE DAMASUS I... DON'T YOU KNOW THIS, GSRider?!
@faithofourfathers
@faithofourfathers Жыл бұрын
Karlo’s book sounds like a must have 👍🏽
@kiwi-xl1vl
@kiwi-xl1vl Жыл бұрын
I'd like to get those books❤
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan Жыл бұрын
Dave Armstrong is a good apologist. I just found him recently.
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan Жыл бұрын
There's a ton of Greek names used for men and women, so the gender has to change for the name. Apparently knowing Greek doesn't help protestants
@dylanx9327
@dylanx9327 Жыл бұрын
I love his thought provoking videos... PS: sound at the end of this video is not that great...
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
Yeah the zoom recording came out mono for some reason. :/
@estebanpayan7296
@estebanpayan7296 Жыл бұрын
This may be a little off topic, but I just read Matthew 2:23. In the notes it says that no such messianic prophecy exists, "He will be called a Nazarene." Matthew says that the prophets "spoke" of this prophecy. Could this be an argument for oral tradition?
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
Yes, and there are a few examples of that in the NT!
@jessicaangeles1122
@jessicaangeles1122 6 ай бұрын
@DavidSupina
@DavidSupina Жыл бұрын
Wow, Mr. Beaumont, I have to tell you that the argument you started offering at around the 22:45 mark of the video has been running through my head for I think over a week. I was just thinking about how often with philosophically arguments, the main line of criticism goes back to the same one or two arguments, such as the interaction problem with Cartesian substance dualism, but this is not so with Catholicism. The approach is almost the opposite-death by a thousand cuts. You do have arguments that are more favoured by certain groups, but they are favoured mostly because they play into the biases of those particular critics anyway. An atheist will cite the problem of evil, an Orthodox will cite a lack of ecumenical council support for the Pope, a Protestant will say “look how unbiblical this is!” and point to how their (obviously correct) reading of scripture contradicts the Catholic reading, and on it goes. But if there was a single internal contradiction that was obvious and demonstrable, would they not all use that one? Or maybe the issue is the whole project of trying to find spot or wrinkle in the bride of Christ, but obviously that can’t be true, because then we would all have to become Catholic! What a horrible fate!
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
100%
@willdavis2813
@willdavis2813 Жыл бұрын
I have a great deal of respect for the Roman Catholic Church (in the Lutheran camp, myself) but one issue that many of you might not be aware of is the sheer number of former Catholics we have at our churches. I think we can all agree the theology is important but over the course of my 30+ years attending evangelical and now a Lutheran church, I've met so many former Catholics who either had bad experiences (lots of check boxes for your works) growing up or just couldn't connect to what they felt was a sort of cold formality/rigidness in the style of worship. Maybe these guys all just went to bad churches, I don't know. I was always curious why people left so I would ask and those tended to be the responses I got. Admittedly this is just my own experience and not a formal poll. But my point is that it leaves an impression. I think my other issue is that there are so many brilliant Protestant theologians and thinkers over the centuries that have never felt the call to leave. Sure there are few, but the overwhelming majority stay Protestant. These aren't men and women lacking in intellectual prowess or devotion. Oh and to be fair, I hear the same thing raged against you guys on the Evangelical and Protestant side. "Ohhhh, it's all so obvious, why don't they see the fallacy of their beliefs?" I'm like really?? You don't think there are brilliant deep thinking devoted people on the Catholic side? Come on? Alright, I'm done rambling and my lunch time is over. Just the thoughts of a humble layman who thinks we should focus more on the "unchurched" than the "different churched". Blessings to you all!
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@markv1974
@markv1974 Жыл бұрын
The problem is there are so many catholics and little priests to administer. We need more deacons too. Americans and europeans often forget that the catholic church is made up of more tan a billion people.
@justthink8952
@justthink8952 Жыл бұрын
Catholics are not taught properly to refute Protestant doctrines. Most Catholic priests don't even bother to teach lay Catholics how to defend Catholic faith against protestants' onslaught. They don't even teach how Protestants' doctrines are false.
@paulmitchell2916
@paulmitchell2916 Жыл бұрын
jeez, six minutes in.. Still waiting for "How to Answer Common......" A little intro story, ok.. but please
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 Жыл бұрын
Catholics believe even though I’ve been born again that I will go to hell because I am not part of the church Peter built if I’m not mistaken? Is this what they believe about the prostestent church attending people? I think it’s weird because it’s supposed to be faith plus repentance to open your up to the gift of the salvation and sanctification. I also get confused because it seems like most Catholics believe in purgatory and I don’t see anything like it in the bible ?
@biblealone9201
@biblealone9201 Жыл бұрын
How did you get born again😁😁
@biblealone9201
@biblealone9201 Жыл бұрын
Since you claim there is no "purgatory " Then please explain where Jesus' Spirit went for the 3 days his body was dead? Sacred Scripture says ",, that he went and preached to the spirits who lay in prison. " ( 1 Peter 3:19) Where was this prison? was it in Heaven? If so why would there be a prison in Paradise? Was the prison in the Hell of the Damned? If so why would the damned need to hear the Gospel? . as you say there is no "purgatory" then Jesus did not have to die on the cross. If Moses and Abraham and the rest of the OT Faithful were already in the presence of the Lord then Jesus did not have to die. His death on the cross opened the narrow gate and the OT faithful passed through that narrow gate from the wilderness into the Promised land. The OT Faithful that died waiting for the Messiah weren't in slavery in Egypt- the antetype of hell of the damned for they had been rescued but they weren't in the Promised land of heaven either. Jesus' death opened the narrow gate and fulfilled the Covenant. Please study the Hebrew thoughts of Sheol and the grave, and note that Sheol is NOT Gehenna. Gehenna is for the accursed and the Damned not Abraham or Moses. The waiting in the spiritual wilderness is the best explanation of "purgatory" I can think of right now. Thanks for listening and remember Revelation 21 :17 & 1 Cor 3:15 especially verses 10-15. ---- the word hell means Hades or Sheol, the collective abode of the dead, divided into Paradise or Abraham's Bosom--the state of God-fearing souls--and Gehenna, the state of ungodly souls. Thus the descent into hell suggests that the Son of God carried the sins of the world to hell; or the Son of God carried Good News of deliverance to the godly dead such as Lazarus the beggar and the repentant thief. Christ says in Matthew that, like Jonah, he would be in the belly of the earth for 3 days. Acts tells us Christ remained on earth for 40 days before He ascends. So there were 43 days BEFORE Christ went to Heaven. Did the good thief go ahead of the Lord to make sure the lights were on for His arrival? Or, more likely, Paradise that Christ mentions, is Abrahams Boosom. The place where the prisoners Christ preached to in 1st Peter were awaiting the Messiah🐱‍👤🐱‍👤
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t claim that at all my friend. Try to relax a bit I’m just asking questions. It’s by gods grace that I’m born again not of myself lest any man should boast . I thank God daily for letting me into the light and for the gift of the Holy Spirit. I was a slave to sin no doubt for 30 years before I was sanctified. My church tells me that in the Old Testament the saint went to Abraham’s bosom which is separated by a Casam from the place of torment. Jesus came down and presented himself as the messiah then brought them to heaven emptying Abraham’s bosom. I’ve read the bible a few times and nothing seems to suggest what Jesus did wasn’t good enough to sanctify us so we have to purify ourselves after death. Anyways I’m thankful for the lord to give me the strength to keep my composure in this sinful world and to perpetually turn from sinful behaviour. I used to be a homeless drug addict then my girlfriend died when we got a place together and she relapsed. Now I’m free all thanks to Jesus’s works and I trust the bible when it says his blood paid for my sins. It’s really amazing to think about considering what a wretch I am.
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
From the Catechism: 817 In fact, "in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church - for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame." The ruptures that wound the unity of Christ's Body - here we must distinguish heresy, apostasy, and schism - do not occur without human sin: Where there are sins, there are also divisions, schisms, heresies, and disputes. Where there is virtue, however, there also are harmony and unity, from which arise the one heart and one soul of all believers. 818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers . . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church." 819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth" are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements." Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him, and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity." "Outside the Church there is no salvation" 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. 847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation. 848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply I appreciate it. Hey do you have any idea what the thoughts on the trinity were in early Catholic faith ? Just found out my pastor I work with who’s church I started going to doesn’t believe in the trinity. He believes in oneness but I can’t get on board it makes no sense to me. I can see some problems with the trinity when I take a look at it such as why there were no objections by the Jews at the time recorded in the New Testament. I see some glimpses of the trinity in the Old Testament but seems most Jews believe there’s only one entity of god not 3 with one essence. Thanks good video nice to see some apologetics from the Catholic side.
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan Жыл бұрын
I have never seen sola scriptura as viable because your interpretation is based on some authority, so how do you know that authority is proper, and it is ahistorical whereas the Church has existed as the Christian authority since the beginning. That being said protestantism makes a mess of the Bible where if their interpretation of certain words is correct, it creates actual contradictions which results in them ignoring verses, sometimes even mistranslating them purposefully whereas the Bible in Catholicism is rendered much more coherent. You can even see people call into protestant shows or in debates where they'll bring up if you think this word here can only mean x, what about when it used in this other verse, and the protestant speaker just shuts down or even gets belligerent thus a lot of the Calvinists resorting to thinking their opponents are deliberately lying especially as some aspect of an inherently evil human nature or something like that.
@thedomesticmonk772
@thedomesticmonk772 Жыл бұрын
I love both of you guys but I don’t understand why it’s somehow bad to be anti-Protestant. How long does a heresy have to be perpetuated before we just accept it? Correct me if I’m wrong, but Protestantism originated with certain men who co-opted the Catholic faith, on their OWN authority, 1500 years AFTER Christ founded HIS Church. They then applied their own subjective meaning toward Holy Scripture and in essence declared they know better than Jesus what HE intended for his Church. How is that any different than any other heresy? Protestantism was declared heretical by the Council of Trent, was it not? Yet, Catholics aren’t supposed to be anti-Protestant? So called “Catholics” have no problem attacking Pope Francis or the Holy Mass or Communion in the hand, but we’re expected to treat actual heretical beliefs with kid gloves? The purpose of ecumenism is NOT relativism, it is to bring those in error back into full communion with Christ’s Church, the One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. We need to stop pretending Protestants beliefs are legitimate. I for one take the approach of St. Francis De Sales in his “Authority of the Church”, written to oppose this heresy at its onset. He didn’t beat around the bush so as not to offend, he told the unvarnished truth. We don’t need to fight physically with Protestants but we do need to defend the faith and show them the error of their ways. The longer we allow them to believe their heretical views have some legitimacy, the longer they stay outside of communion with Christ’s Church. Is that really the charitable approach?
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 Жыл бұрын
Not trying to start a fight just wondering if it’s true that the Roman Catholicism we see today started around 1100 AD? If we do things a little differently but have the same core beliefs isn’t that a reason to get along? I still stick up for Catholics when people talk about how horrible the church is because all the news does is demonize Catholics. All I see is natives in Canada demanding more money from the pope to make up for torturing and killing their ancestors in residential schools or so they say. Also so much sexual abuse scandal aimed at priests as well. I realize we can’t trust the news anymore though so I take anything said with a grain of salt or what I tend to do these days is not even click on any news alerts that pop up anymore. Seems to me like
@thedomesticmonk772
@thedomesticmonk772 Жыл бұрын
@@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 Your instincts are correct and are guided by the Holy Spirit who leads all who ask for it to truth. The Catholic Church is the only Church founded by Jesus Christ himself. He founded it upon St. Peter, giving him authority to lead it as head of the Apostles. The term Catholic simply means universal. It was first applied to the Church in a letter written by St. Ignatius of Antioch, the 3rd Bishop of Antioch, after St. Peter in the early 2nd century. He was on his way to Rome to be martyred and wrote 7 letters to various Churches, like St. Paul. In the letter to the Smyrneans he wrote in part, “Where the bishop is present, there let the congregation gather, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. Without the bishop’s supervision, no baptisms or love feasts are permitted. On the other hand, whatever he approves pleases God as well. In that way everything you do will be on the safe side and valid.” The letters are short, easy to read and provide great insight into the early church. I recommend reading them all. People seeking to usurp or discredit the Catholic Church have been making claims that it was corrupted somehow or started at this point or that point in the last 2000 years. But the truth is, every Catholic Bishop, through the laying on of hands by an ordained Bishop can trace their authority back to one of the Apostles. It is called Apostolic succession. This practice was initiated St. Peter and the Apostles and described in the Acts of the Apostles when they replaced the office of Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Our Lord, with Matthias. You are right that much of secular society demonizes the Catholic Church, but this was foretold by Christ, as was his promise to protect it until the end of the age. For that reason, despite the persecution the Church continues to suffer we can believe that, despite the sin or failures of those in the Church, which all too often leads to scandal, the gates of Hell cannot and will not prevail against it. I recommend studying the history of the Church and the Apostolic Fathers. You will see that what the early Church taught and practiced, under the authority of Jesus himself can only be found today in the One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, which is the body of Christ on earth founded as a means of Grace, through the sacraments established by Jesus himself, for our salvation. The truth will set you free. God bless brother and Siempre Adelante!
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
What you're describing would be more accurately called "anti-Protestantism" which is the position of being against the system - the "ism". Being "anti-Protestant" refers to being against persons who are Protestant (at least the way we use the term here).
@thedomesticmonk772
@thedomesticmonk772 Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasBeaumont Yes Sir Dr. Beaumont, I guess it would at that. I loved your interview on Blue Collar Catholic. Thanks for what you do for the faith.
@Anon.5216
@Anon.5216 Жыл бұрын
To be anti-protest ANT is to fail to show love to protestant people. To be anti-Protestant ISM is to hate the heresies and to defend Catholic Truth! I am not anti-Protestant but I AM anti-Protestantism because of the damage it has done to the Body of Christ, now split into 42.000 different protestant denominations as of 2022. Tragic.
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
Peter never claimed to be a pope, but an elder. In all of the Apostle Paul's writings to the churches he never once wrote about Peter being a pope. If Peter were a Pope, Paul would have said so. He would not have left something that significant out of his writings. As we look into the Bible regarding this subject of the foundation of the church we find that Paul proclaimed that Christ was the foundation of the church when he wrote: “For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ” (1 Cor 3:11). Notice also that Jesus Christ is called “the rock” when Paul wrote: “and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ” (1 Cor 10:4). Therefore, unwittingly, Catholics, by their own writings, show that Jesus Christ is the “rock” upon which He built His church. The Old Testament prophets foresaw Jesus Christ as the rock, the foundation of the church. The Psalmist wrote: “The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner {stone.}” (Ps 118:22. Isaiah proclaimed: “Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, a costly cornerstone {for} the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes {in it} will not be disturbed” (Isa 28:16). Peter applied this prophecy to Jesus Christ (I Pet. 2:5-8). It is very interesting that it was the apostle Peter, himself, who verified what those prophets said and then confirmed that it was indeed Jesus Christ they foresaw, not himself, as the foundation of the church. The title of “pope” was never conferred on Peter. The word “pope” is not even found in the New Testament and it nowhere teaches, implies, or lends support in any way to Roman Catholicism’s doctrine of the papacy. In fact, the other apostles did not honor Peter as one having supremacy. Paul said that he was not inferior to any of the apostles (2 Cor. 11:5; 12:11). Could this have been true if Peter were Pope? Peter was never addressed with titles of primacy. He was never called “The Pope, Vicar, Reverend, Right Reverend, or Father.” Jesus was crystal clear on this matter when He said, “And do not call {anyone} on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. “And do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, {that is,} Christ” (Matt 23:9-10). If Peter were Pope he certainly did not act like it for several reasons: First, Peter refused worship at the house of Cornelius (Acts 10:25-26). Second, Peter was a married man for the Bible speaks three times of his wife’s mother (Matt. 8:14-15; Mk. 1:30-31; Lk. 4:38). All the apostles had a divine right to be married (I Cor. 9:5). Third, Peter had to be rebuked by Paul because he had human weaknesses (Gal. 2:1114). And according to Roman Catholicism the pope is infallible. The Pope is another christ. Ridiculous
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
Thus entire argument is predicated On the assumption that The Bible has to explain everything and front load the entirety of Christian history in its pages. Because The Bible does not say that it has to do this, it is self defeating.
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasBeaumont uhhh no its not. If it's not in the Bible I don't trust it. (The Bible is the ONLY source of truth.) if Peter were Pope Paul would have written about it. Peter never claimed to be a pope. Not once. You are missing the point completely. If somebody is a pope they will make that claim. Peter never did. Sorry. By the way.. If the Bible is a Catholic book, why does it nowhere mention the Catholic Church? Why is there no mention of a pope, a cardinal, an archbishop, a parish priest, a nun, or a member of any other Catholic order? If the Bible is a Catholic book, why is auricular confession, indulgences, prayers to the saints, adoration of Mary, veneration of relics and images, and many other rites and ceremonies of the Catholic Church, left out of it? If the Bible is a Catholic book, how can Catholics account for the passage, "A bishop then, must be blameless, married but once, reserved, prudent, of good conduct, hospitable, a teacher...He should rule well his own household, keeping his children under control and perfectly respectful. For if a man cannot rule his own household, how is he to take care of the church of God?" (1 Tim. 3:2, 4-5). The Catholic Church does not allow a bishop to marry, while the Bible says "he must be married." Furthermore, if the Bible is a Catholic book, why did they write the Bible as it is, and feel the necessity of putting footnotes at the bottom of the page in effort to keep their subject from believing what is in the text? The following list give a summation of what we have been trying to emphasize. If the Bible is a Catholic book, 1. Why does it condemn clerical dress? (Matt. 23:5-6). 2. Why does it teach against the adoration of Mary? (Luke 11:27-28). 3. Why does it show that all Christians are priests? (1 Pet. 2:5,9). 4. Why does it condemn the observance of special days? (Gal. 4:9-11). 5. Why does it teach that all Christians are saints? (1 Cor. 1:2). 6. Why does it condemn the making and adoration of images? (Ex. 20:4-5). 7. Why does it teach that baptism is immersion instead of pouring? (Col. 2:12). 8. Why does it forbid us to address religious leaders as "father"? (Matt. 23:9). 9. Why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation and not the apostle Peter? (1 Cor. 3:11). 10. Why does it teach that there is one mediator instead of many? (1 Tim. 2:5). 11. Why does it teach that a bishop must be a married man? (1 Tim. 3:2, 4-5). 12. Why is it opposed to the primacy of Peter? (Luke 22:24-27). 13. Why does it oppose the idea of purgatory? (Luke 16:26). 14. Why is it completely silent about infant baptism, instrumental music in worship, indulgences, confession to priests, the rosary, the mass, and many other things in the Catholic Church?
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasBeaumont everything that's in the Bible is what God wanted us to know. Nothing needs to be added. The Cannons have been closed for quite some time. New Revelations are not happening today. What God Said in the Bible is what he wanted to say and that's that. If It's not in the Bible I don't believe it. That simple.
@philipcorr8225
@philipcorr8225 11 ай бұрын
Ben, simple but wrong. Why are there over 100000 Protestant religions? The development of protestantism defeats its own arguments. Time to end the protest.
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I am a Catholic Christian. Of course Jesus would never leave his Church to fallible men alone so he sent the Holy Spirit to lead them and their successors to all truth. Pray for those who deny Jesus and trust the confused traditions and doctrines of 16th century men instead.
@ernestosarmiento1273
@ernestosarmiento1273 Жыл бұрын
Simple. Christ will not call simon PETER, or change his name to Peter for nothing. Christ is God and will not do unecessary thing. Renaming during that time has a higher purpose.
@tamib64
@tamib64 2 ай бұрын
1 Cor 1 says Church of God, not the Catholic church. The whole territorial thing is awful. We're as followers of Christ Jesus not to cause division in the faith.
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Ай бұрын
Then join the Church that didn't do the dividing.
@jamesstrohl2016
@jamesstrohl2016 Жыл бұрын
Hmm. Catholicism is so easily defeated.
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
That explains why so many knowledgeable Catholics become Protestant and only ignorant Protestants become Catholic. Oh wait....
@danielbutts7159
@danielbutts7159 Жыл бұрын
I preface this by saying I haven't read the book. "You are the Christ, the son of the living God." This revelation is the rock. This is mother's milk, baby food, for a child in Christ. A literal child, convicted and informed by the Holy Spirit, can clearly see this. "Christ" was particularly meaningful to the disciples, as they were Jews awaiting the prophesied Messiah. At the risk of being hyperbolic, it is terrifying to see these educated men not seeming to grasp this. And again, I haven't read his book. But it seems as though they don't see the forest for the trees. Whether you call yourself Catholic or protestant, revelation and wisdom come from God by his spirit. This is humbly submitted by a backslidden Christian.
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you need to read the book. ;)
@matthewbroderick6287
@matthewbroderick6287 Жыл бұрын
If a Protestant were to actually practice Scripture ALONE as the only infallible authority, ( which they don't!😁), as every President Pastor, James White, Robert Zins, Gavin Ortlund, the other Paul, all teach their interpretations are infallible! 🤔 Protestants are entertaining! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
Humans are not infallible. God's word is infallible. Huge difference
@matthewbroderick6287
@matthewbroderick6287 Жыл бұрын
@@benmiddleton9984 You mean God can speak infallible Truth even through sinners such as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? You are making wonderful progress! Indeed, the manifold wisdom of God is revealed through the CHURCH! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
@matthewbroderick6287
@matthewbroderick6287 Жыл бұрын
@@benmiddleton9984 God's word is not limited to the written word! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewbroderick6287 God's word to us is the written word. His perfect word. The Holy Spirit interprets the word for us. I don't need the Catholic Church to interpret scripture for me. The Holy Spirit does that just fine
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewbroderick6287 God wrote his word through the hearts of man. Completely Guided by the Holy Spirit. These are not the words of man alone but the word of God
@Justas399
@Justas399 Жыл бұрын
Mary’s supposed sinlessness and perpetual virginity do contradict Scripture. Peter never claimed to be a pope in his writings. Why doesn’t Peter ever claim to be the rock on which the church is built on in his writings?
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
No they don't. To do so would be anachronistic. Why would he?
@Justas399
@Justas399 Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasBeaumont Peter identifies himself as an apostle but never as the chief shepherd of the church which is is a greater title. If he thought he was the rock on which the church is built on he would have mentioned that also. The apostles never in their writings mention him as the chief shepherd of the church or the rock on which the church is built on in their writings. Also, the office of a chief shepherd or bishop of bishops is never mentioned as an office for the church in the New Testament. Mary’s supposed sinlessness is contradicted by Romans 3:9-11, 23. Her supposed perpetual virginity is contradicted by Matthew 13:55-56, Mark 3:31-32; Mark 6:3; John 2:12; 7:5.
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
@@Justas399 You don't know what Peter would or would not do, and as I said, it's anachronistic to use titles that came along later and expect them to be used in a 1st century epistle. further, "Pope" is not an additional level of office. The Pope is simply the Bishop of Rome. That office comes with additional responsibilities (like Arch Bishop) and graces, but it is not another level in the way that would cause a problem biblically (even if we were limited to the original, first century biblical offices - which the Bible does not say we are.) Jesus also was without sin, so "all" cannot mean "every, without exception." Spend 2 seconds googling why the Church doesn't think Mary had additional children, it's fairly uncontroversial unless you're trying to find a good "gotcha" verse against Catholics. (Spoiler Alert: You'll never find one worse than James 2:24!).
@Justas399
@Justas399 Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasBeaumont Just pointing out that Peter nor the apostles ever claimed Peter was the chief shepherd or rock on which the church is built. We know Jesus was without sin because the Scriptures tell us He was. No exception is ever made for Mary. NONE. She is in the same class as the all of Romans 3:9-11, 23. Your church is wrong about Mary being a perpetual virgin. Here is why: When brothers and sisters are used in connection with father or mother then it does not mean cousins but actual blood brothers and sisters. See Matthew 13:55-56, Mark 3:31-32; Mark 6:3; John 2:12; "After this He went down to Capernaum, He and His mother and His brothers and His disciples; and they stayed there a few days." John 2:12 Notice that there is a distinction with the biological brothers of Jesus and His disciples. The same word for brothers in Matthew 13:55 is the same word used for brothers of Peter and Andrew in Matthew 4:18 and John 1:40. Since Peter and Andrew were biological brothers so too the biological brothers of Jesus mentioned in Matthew 13:55 There are Greek words for cousin-anepsios as in Colossians 4:10 or kinsman = sungenis which is used in Luke 1:36. Never used for the brothers of Jesus. I already answered your assertion about James 2:24 and the problems with it.
@dolphjan6267
@dolphjan6267 Жыл бұрын
his name that Jesus give hem say it all , Peter, prostants will never understand they keep barking, mmm like muslims dont understand Trinty, you explain it 1 min they will ask same question
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
Catholics tend to believe the Book of James over the writings of Paul concerning the gospel of grace and faith alone. The RCC clearly teaches that all people must submit to the authority of the pope in order to be saved, and there is no such verse. Misuing a passage from James to "destory slavation" by grace alone through faith alone won't do that. Catholics are usually out of their element when discussing scripture. This video shows just that. P.s. Catholics have told me in the past that you either believe in what Paul said or what James said. You can't believe in both. What a crock. The Bible doesn't contradict itself. I can believe in both Paul and James.
@DouglasBeaumont
@DouglasBeaumont Жыл бұрын
No, unlike many protestnats, Catholics do not pit James against Paul. That is where protestants have failed since Luther.
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasBeaumont failed since Luther? Wrong. More like Catholicism has completely missed the point of justification. Long before Jan hus and Martin Luther, Jesus was teaching Sola scriptura. Jesus alone is sufficient for salvation. Not Jesus plus Works. Doesn't work that way. All I need to be saved is Jesus Christ. I don't need the pope or the Catholic church for anything. The Pope doesn't need to tell me what's in the Bible. The Holy Spirit does that for me. So you are wrong. Our works is the result of our Salvation, not a condition for salvation. For some reason Catholics cannot wrap their minds around that concept. You cannot earn a gift that God wants to freely give you. Stop trying to earn your salvation. Trust me Doug, you are not going to get into heaven based on what you've done inside of the Catholic Church. You're only going to get into heaven because of what Jesus has done for you. Those are the facts
@benmiddleton9984
@benmiddleton9984 Жыл бұрын
@@DouglasBeaumont in my personal experience Catholics have pitted James against Paul almost always. They shun Paul and embrace James. I embrace BOTH! Why? Because the Bible is inerrant
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