Disney had no idea how rare true genius is. The only people they have left stand on the shoulders of those giants, while having no respect for them

Disney's brain drain is literally the plot of a lot of cautionary tales. I can hear the protagonist yelling 'I don't need you any way!' As the experienced people leave.

It's not just the top talent, its the screen writers, the CGI people and 3rd party companies that refuse to work with Disney anymore because they suck to work for. It is across the vertical spectrum.

This is the very thing that ruined the music industry starting back in the mid 90's. Labels were tired of spending time and money trying to find and build up talent that might not be successful. Better to just find a pretty face and pay sound engineers to make them sound OK.

Spot on. Disney ruined the possibility they had with Star Wars by treating it like a cash cow that could be milked rather than the goose that lays golden eggs.

“Fantasy, if it’s really convincing, can’t become dated, for the simple reason that it represents a flight into a dimension that lies beyond the reach of time.” - Walt Disney

When parents are asking "is this Disney movie safe for kids". You know you messed up

They don't want auteurs... They want bland commitees to tick off check marks on a dry erase board...draining all personally out of everything.

That was what most worried me when the pandemonium started: to lose knowledge. If it was deadly as people initially thought, it could be terrible for all industries, not only Hollywood. But thankfully it wasn't like that. Let me give you an example... A neighbor of mine (I'm from Brazil) is a Portuguese dude who worked as a maintenance engineer at NASA. He worked with the cranes and so on... And they never put someone to work with him, to learn from him. So he retired, moved here... And all the sudden they didn't know how to fix the cranes anymore. So they had to call him to ask for help (and he helped them, of course). So, imagine losing people like that in a way you can't communicate with them, forever. Scary stuff...

I swear Disney could actually make a billion if they do a biopic documenting their own downfall 😂

It all started in 1994, with a guy named Jeffrey Katzenberg. CEO Michael Eisner pushed him out. Then Katzenberg teamed up with Steven Spielberg and David Geffen to create DreamWorks, one of Disney's biggest rivals.

I remember reading through a book that came out back around 2000. I wish I could give you the title, but I can't recall it. The basic argument of the book was that the liberal, tolerant, open minded cities, especially on the east and west coast, were attracting creative people a "creative class", especially gay creatives, and would become more vibrant, with more vibrant economies because these intelligent and creative people, fleeing the drab, close-minded suburbs and "red states" would make cities hubs of new technologies, hubs of artistic ways of living, and fulfilling for their residents, places where welfare give people a safety net so they can recover from hard times so poverty would go away. On the other hand, the conservative suburbs would become more banal because of their emphasis on conformity with narrow minded, outmoded moral strictures, and would become poorer, more anti-intellectual, more knee-jerk, more divided along racial/ethnic lines, less forgiving of the poor, because those awful religious/conservative types view poverty as some sort of punishment from God, all because they were chasing all the nice creative people away (because creative people tend to be gay or non-conforming). I would not be surprised if the author of that book still thinks his thesis sound, because those "red state" suburban/rural types vote for hateful, racist, hateful, evil (and did I mention full of HATE) politicians like Trump. Yet as I look around at the oh-so-tolerant-and-liberal cities all you see is homeless crapping everywhere. Stores closing because of crime. Streets full of racial tension and violence. The "creative class's" art is ugly and dumb (precisely because they believe beauty doesn't actually exist and "intelligence" is an aspect of white supremacy). The "creative class" have turned out to be a bunch of cultish ideologues who think freedom of speech and thought (that is, tolerance and liberality) are Bad Ideas, and are violently close minded and intolerant of anyone different from them. Meanwhile the suburbs are vibrant and full of creative people starting businesses and ministries and community service groups, volunteering to help those less fortunate. And we're now seeing this same stupid idea in corporate culture: they see this new group of "traditionally marginalized" people as a "creative class" whose very differences make them inherently more creative and more wise (because they were oppressed) and so companies are chasing away those "old white dudes" because they have STANDARDS for their creativity - their artistic output has to be GOOD! - and the "there is no such thing as 'good' or 'bad'" relativist crowd thinks that whole idea is stifling new ideas that would be better than what we used to have (wait, if you say there is no such thing as good or bad - how can something be better or worse? Sorry, I know, I'm not supposed to bring in LOGIC to this! Logic is "white supremacy"!).

In a non related topic Elon Musk just went on tv and called out Bob Iger specifically to tell him to fk off. Disney threatened to boycott X over a tweet.

Don't forget Wreck-it Ralph 2 contradicts Wreck-it Ralph. In the 1st one if a game character goes into another game it wrecks the code eventually destroying the game. While in 2 the whole point is to get into another game and stay there.

Warning to all parents: Don't let Disney brainwash your kids!

I remember the time when there was a event clip in Disney after their release of Big Hero 6 and one of the people work in Disney used to say what Disney animation used to represent how their worker love Disney animation and dream of become part of Disney animation member. See that statement slowly and painfuly fade away is just sad.

12:17 You’re wrong Vash. It was never Bob Iger who truly understood the value of talent TWDC purchased during his tenure, but the BoD who approved of said purchases. As time has gone on, Iger stacked the BoD with loyalist yes men to carry out his true vision for TWDC, which has only demonstrated how little he ever appreciated what he had.

Why does anyone think Bob Igor is some kind of business genius? All he did during his tenure was purchase various IPs for billions. The question not being asked by the investors is: What has Bob done with all this IP?

Bob Iger had a idea of buying all of the companies that at the time were cash cows and thought they could just start making movies and shows differently and without the people who made them cash cows and because they had big names like Marvel and star wars and they would continue to make money money and they are finding out that fans want more than just a title they want to see good movies and shows that are well written and not woke nonsense but it is to late now they killed it

Glad you touched on this. Was recently thinking something along these lines and what talent they have lost to make way for cheaper pay grades. Should look at the Disney Job postings sometime. Some are funny to see how much they need.

I think Two shower Bob and his cronies are jealous of real geniuses and wanted them run off to feel powerful.

This video reminds me of what the food critic in Ratatouille said near the end of the film- " an artist can come from almost anywhere, but not everyone is an artist. "

Sir, as we approach 2024 I wish to express my heartfelt thanks for inspiration at levels you and your comrades may not realize. I hope to continue to uphold a standard set by you and yours. Thank you.

Honest question: What did Bob Iger do, other than buy things with company money, and then sanction the ruining of those things?

Dont forget favreau as well. Dude who's vision literally started the mcu.

Excellent analysis, I think, of the real problem with Disney and other woke companies. *Companies or governments are not the buildings, the machines, or any of the physical elements people see and associate with an organization, IT'S THE PEOPLE.* Hiring and retaining of talented, creative individuals who recognize what an organizations needs are its key to success, as is getting rid of people who hurt and damage the organization either through failure to perform their jobs or harm the image of that organization. Looking around the world now we see failure after failure for governments as well as organizations like companies - this is the why behind those failures.

If only Daily Wire could afford a Brad Byrd or John Lasseter...

When hip hop blew up and started sampling old tunes the overall music quality went down in subsequent decades. Make something original, stop stealing, reusing, sampling. Learn to play an instrument. Also Disney focuses on quantity not quality. Remember, they wanted to release a star wars movie every single year!!! ! ! It's a trap

I was extremely angry of Lassiters treatment.

Ah, the power of the individual with talent. All the corporate mediocrities on earth don't add up to one genius

Very similar to how Amazon Studios ran Tom Shippey off the production of Rings of Power

Alright, I'm just going to throw this movie idea out there because I think it would work well for a Disney family movie and I would really love to see this movie made. Not a cartoon, but a live action story movie or mini sieres. And no, it's not going to fix everything. I just think it would be interesting. Back when I was researching the New Deal as part of my college class, I came across info on the grant for artists, which included actors. And one of the most popular and successful of the groups who applied for that government assistance to keep their troupe going was a company of Black actors who put on Shakespearean plays and traveled the US, going from town to town and getting on stage in front of crowds of all kinds of people. They and the program were so successful that the average voter wanted to continue paying taxes to support traveling stage shows, but the government eventually abolished the program as they did with all New Deal things once the Depression was over. But I think a story about those actors and crew would be very interesting. It would be set in a more innocent time period, so Disney could probably keep it to a PG or PG-13 level. It would promote black actors so would likely have some interesting things to say about race relations, and so fit in Disney's woke agenda. But it would be based on real events, so it would have purpose beyond just playing to woke ideals, as well as a guidlline if they decided to honor the actual actors and workers.. And Hollywood generally loves honoring its own craft. Anyway, I don't know much more about it beyond that, but I always thought it would make for good entertainment if they did any research. I wished I could have found more information myself, as I always wondered why the troupe was so universally acclaimed. and would have liked to have known more about the real people. Anyway, if I were at Disney, I'd commission someone to do the research and write the script.

I just saw an ad on my feed: Bob Iger teaches a Masterclass in Business Strategy. Why have you not covered this yet? 😂😂

As soon as Iger bought out Marvel and Star Wars( and eventually Lucasfilms) I knew it wasn’t going to be the same and I gave up on them, glad I did and saw this whole thing coming a mile away all those years ago

I honestly think that Star Wars was to personal to George Lucas and it’s will never be the same without him. Not only have they chased him but all of his influences that is the DNA of Star Wars. Lucas etc should be prized tutors bringing through future generations.

IGER: I Get Everything wRong.

AMEN TO ALL OF THIS. GREAT CONVERSATION!!!!!

I wish Lasseter was still there and working on more Prep and Landing and Incredibles 3

Never fire your geniuses! 🔥🔥🔥

Great Segment fellas. Culture had me in stitches when you were in silence.

Man cool beat... ! You make that one Pro?

Brad Bird also moved to work with Lasseter

Disney reminds me of a classic 1978 horror movie " Invasion of the Body Snatchers." Wonder if Disney has figured out that consumers have had enough of garbage content and slapping Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, or Disney on the advertising will no longer bring $$$.

Disney's biggest mistake is thinking that movie franchise's are all in the name kind of like their mantle theory. The thing is without the creative people that made them great behind those franchise's they are a hollow shell and a name, nothing more

Don’t worry. Who needs genius creatives anyway? Disney brought in the brains that dreamed up the ingenious marketing strategy of repeatedly attacking their customers and their values. Boom. ✋ 🎤

Creators set trends, marketers follow trends and corporations ride trends into the ground.

People used to dream about working for Disney, now 3rd party companies can't stand to even contract with them.

I’m glad this is being documented

It's as though Disney got rid of the good people, and turned themselves into The Borg.. a soulless, heartles, group think organiism.

Fired Perlmutter in favor of Feige. Lol..... 🤣

Thank you

Time to grow up and realize this stuff is finished. Demand new characters with new stories - what will they do then?

Apple without Steve Jobs is just another mobile device company and mobile device sales are leveling off bigly.

The big difference between Apple and Disney is succession. Apple planned it, and Cook isn't trying to be what Jobs was. As much as I dislike the politics of Apple, they have continued putting out good products because they have the right people doing what they do best. Iger's Disney works on the assumption Iger always knows best. He doesn't.

You can hire the best talent for the job or a person who checks all the boxes.

Entertainment companies need three critical elements to make magic happen… *1. Creative powerhouses.* *2. Financial responsibility.* *3. Ringmasters* to keep everything running smoothly, by working as a “middleman” between the creatives and moneymen. (More specifically; “ringmasters” are those who expertly know how to allow creatives the freedom to “create”, but can keep them focused on the most important tasks…and they also keep the moneymen happy, by reining in the spending of the creatives, without compromising their final product). Basically none of the major entertainment corporations have *”the very best”* of these three vital elements anymore -because they no longer operate as meritocracies. They prioritize ideology, over creativity and productivity-which is why almost everything sucks nowadays.

What about Tom Skaggs? Was he the first to be run off or was his exit appropriate? I’m curious about his recent consulting role to revive ESPN. And what about Joe Rohde’s early retirement? Although after 4 decades “early” might not apply. It felt like a significant loss of talent when he left.

Nintendo is an absolute shining example of what happens when you keep your talent and have them teach the people that replace them. You have have continued success. Many company's will also dump talent when times get tough and that often has Horrific future effects.

I pray you are correct, Ito paraphrase Reagan, "I didn't leave Disney, they left me!). Not another red cent on any Disney related product until Iger is gone and a CEO that doesn't care about any woke critical theory is ut at the helm.

The original Disney is much like KZfaq content creators these days, it's about the presentation and what makes them unique to a hungry audience.

Iger does not know what he is doing. He's a terrible CEO. Sad, but very true.

Disney, "And all I need is this thermos...."

I know that what I'm about to say is not a popular opinion within the Fandom Menace (I certainly can't think of any other name-able YT channel that has advocated for this), but I witnessed first-hand _that spark_ of creativity and old-school _Walt Disney_ "magic" in early-June in the theater, when I went to see _The Little Mermaid_ (2023). I think that, _despite_ a number of missteps (the _largest by far_ of which was the undeniably-ESG-fueled black-washing of _yet another_ pale redhead by the Hollywood industry!), director Rob Marshall and his writing team brought forth a plethora of respect, honor, appreciation _and_ new ideas to the original 1989 movie. (And, really, isn't _that exactly_ what _any_ reboot and/or remake should strive for- to honor past content _and their fan bases_ while advancing new content out of _respect???_ ) While many of those 'new ideas' were in fact cut from the earlier script of the 1989 movie _before_ pre-production began (something that only actual and dedicated _TLM_ fans would recognize as such), other parts came from the 2007-08 Broadway live-theater musical... meaning that _experience was in-place_ during the planning stages for _TLM_ '23. But I also recognize the ingenuity that Marshall demonstrated _twelve years earlier_ in another Disney movie he directed- _Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides_ (2011)- and that is definitely present in how he took all of the elements of the 2D film, plus _thirty-four years of critiques and criticisms,_ and was able to- in my opinion- successfully weave them all together into a cohesive package which not only embraced the original movie, but _honored_ it through the changes it brought forth! A _perfect_ example of this is how live-action Prince Eric (actor Jonah Hauer-King) was vastly expanded in dialogue, motivations and interactions- leading the audience to feel that _stronger_ bond between him and the mute Ariel. I've never seen Hauer-King in any other production before this movie, but his Prince Eric was _easily_ my favorite character in the film! (Not to mention Ariel's three days on the Surface was also well worth the movie's 'extended' runtime that so many complained about.) #WithRespectWeAccept -shameless self-promotion- My $0.02 non-spoiler overview of _TLM_ '23: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7tpnM-nyrmmlYk.html

Eviel can’t create it can only destroy what already exists.

This brain drain is also happening with the AAA gaming space. Bioware, Bungie, Blizzard. All of the talent that made those studios what they are today jumped ship a long time ago and what you are seeing is a rotting husk wearing the name as a skin suit. Destiny Bungie is not Halo Bungie. They may share the same name, but in reality they might as well be two different companies.

If Bob truly believes what he is saying the first thing you do is get Caffeine Kennedy out the door and cancel the Ray movie.

Disney is bleeding through a thousand cuts, the blood is in the water, the sharks are circling

Micky....smiling

in corp some ideas are taboo

Please do not include John Lasseter amongst the geniuses you are talking about. All he wanted to do when he was the head of the animation department at Disney was just give those code monkeys who couldn't draw a chance to work in the animation department just so they could delude themselves and they could indulge in their fictional fantasies about being the artists in the animation department. John Lasseter has nothing to do with the word genius. In my opinion, opportunist would be a word much more suited to him.

I only come here for the wordsmith openers 😂 they are epic pro

Poor business decisions = Long term consequences

The Kingdom of Dreams is no longer such when those who run it are planners and not dreamers themselves. The original dreamers had already woken up and moved on from the bed that is complacency of the new modern Disney

The problem is Disney execs like Iger and Kennedy wouldn’t know creativity if it stood up and slapped them in the face.

how can you be a source of creativity when all your great creators have gone (got fired) ?

It could be argued that the bosses at Disney et al, haven't been listening to the talent for some time. Iger has nothing to offer other than arrogance.

Pro, didn’t Disney do this to the muppets after it purchased them? Run it into the ground?

Someone need to make a movie about this and how the over compensating for the me too movement brought Disney down to its knees😂😂😂 this is insane

1:44 What else did you expect from a man who was the weather guy on TV,,,Smarts isn't one of them.

I think we’re downplaying the role of Lean 6 in all of this.

This dude brought up John Lassiter leaving Pixar but he went over to Disney animation studios and they even putting out hot trash

They mostly have a southern California mindset, and they mostly think reality stops at the edge of their bubble.

WD Pro to your credit you have assembled and are bringing to us - THANK YOU! - a collection of some of the most insightful and brilliant minds of our time, which? I know is your goal. SMS You sneaky guy - are you sure that you are not Chinese? Lol 😂 "We wery sneaky, we Chinese."

Who is John Galt?

Disney - where media, franchises, and companies go to die. Pixar, Lucasfilm, etc. made a name from themselves by amazing people making amazing content, not the other way around. You don't get amazing content because you have a popular name.

Bob's ego has cost billions in shareholder value.

This is an outrage! Bob Iger should stop removing Disney's most creative teams, unless he really wants Disney out of business forever!😠

The guy had one job : fired Kathryn Kennedy after the last jedi

Iger took a big dump on Disney. Now Disney is in the toilet. Thanks a lot, Iger! LOL

I love how people conveniently forget that aladdin was originally a chinese story.

Pixar movie quality noticeably dropped after Lasseter’s exit.

Why is Bob Iger allowed to exist at Disney?

Steve Jobs wasnt a "genius". He had a ton of empathy, and wielded his understanding like a battleaxe against his friends... Woz was a genius.

This brain drain, will kill Disney as they got NOTHING working for them, right now, aside maybe sports, who knows how long that will last, I think this company should be pretty much broken up and sold in chunks to pay off the debit and turn things around, as it stands, Lucasfilm is WORTHLESS, along with Pixar, & Marvel, plus the Disney animation department, they can't get enough people to come to their parks, how long until they loose the vast majorty to their rivals as Universal will open their new park within the next year or so and Disney only answer to it, is likely a meet and greet of some character that been wrecked by this toxic culture that infests the company where one gets a head by simply being of a certain skin colour, who they sleep with or what in between their legs, where're or not they are right for the job or not, is another matter that gets discarded from the looks of things, what this company needs is someone who is a mix of Warner's Zaslov & Elon Musk, a person who cannot be scared of people who work for them!!

Replace "idealog" with "idiot".

I can't believe I'm about to say this.... Disney has become corrupted and is now going through a dark age just like Warner Bros ever since that Greedy Tyrant David Zaslav bought em.... even if we still get some movies and shows that are decent enough to be shown....there is no way it's going to redeem itself properly whatsoever...

Season 2 of love death robots was so woke and preachy.

Smart people to avoid Bob Iger as much as possible. He can only harm their reputation.

Iger was always overrated. All he did in his heyday was buy the best studios, and Disney benefited for awhile until Disney destroyed these studios.

Hey Vash, do you think maybe you could just like... sit still while other people speak? Between your nodding, Josh's hairline, and Hughes falling asleep on stream, this channel has more visual distractions during group discussions than a naked guy running around Disney World.