but they can't make it irl :( . I'd go to a duel school sounds like actually a few schools that are fun .

@@CrimsonAkato Sure, until a world-destroying calamity or scheme threatens the existence of everything. ...that somehow can only be resolved with card games...

That’s just a team-building activity designed to appeal to the better nature of the students and test their abilities throughout the school year.

It also helps that in the anime, the card game is canonical ancient magic that has simply been rediscovered and rebranded as a card game. That is why world-destroying calamities can be stopped by it, they are literally invoking magic but instead of using magic words and wands, they are using magic card-shaped talismans.

@@leotamer5 Gx is just Japanese Harry Potter

To be fair I think kids just ignore this

@@Krekfogel I mean I did until I learned it was even a thing

Card games are serious business

The thing is, it’s a game that’s been going on for ~20 years. It’s going to get complex, simply because of his long it’s existed.

Tbh I always saw it as the reason all the Solemn cards cost different amounts

That’s how I always explained it

Best way to explain in imo

I might add ‘or normal summon.’ But yeah this needs more likes.

But Cyber Dragon is an effect monster and it's effect reads: ***insert text*** So that means it is an effect being activated, riiiiiiight? This is something that some new players will say and it kind of feels like rulesharking when explaining to them that there is a : after that part so it is not an activated effect. This is the type of stuff that should be included in rulebooks that come with starter/structure decks. (Not sure if it is not there already but I remember the most recent ones I got did not have that.)

you are forgetting: and summon... after this card resolves. Which is strikeable

I play pendulums and have a better time knowing the rulings of other decks than my own....

He confirmed he would do this with trif

*penulum

He would just say "pend best deck" for 8 hours straight

there was the ruling quiz

Yeah but after negating inherent summons didn't put money on the table anymore he had to rebrand to nuking fields which landed him a rather lengthy stay in konami jail

simply, when there is the text called "special summon", not "activate effect"

I feel you bro. But how would you explain when Roach cant negate Bounzer?

@@roku-toiletpapersquad8664 cause roach only negates level 5 or higher, and xyz monsters don't have a level, they have a rank

@@midnightthoughts2422 oof, totelly forgot

It was nightmare pre-2011 without PSCT

@@deproissant We don't talk about the dark ages.

That was a shit judge

*these

anything that has to do with a cost has to go thru no matter what. so u would do the cost first then the chain starts.

Chain solemn strike negating your comment please delete your comment or judge will be called

@@daddyyu-gi-oh4330 lol broooo you didn’t even watch the video 😅😂

@@mayaandlyon you can negate inherent comments so consider your comment negated as well. Back to the shadow realm for you my boy

This can only be an inherent comment if it did not start a chain. Unfortunately, people have replied to you, and so you have started a chain. KEKW

The issue is you can. If a spell card says "Special Summon 1 card from your GY, then, immediately after this card's effect resolves, link summon 1 cyberse link monster." can be striked.

@@igotveemon So.... you still are not negating the spell? If a card exist with that text, you strike at the point after the card resolves but before the link summon would occur. So the spell effect will resolve fully, even if the link summon does not go through. Solemn Strike can not negate any spell, thats where Solemn Judgment is for.

@@MsMiDCsolemn warning can negate WOULD BE SUMMON via spell traps and monsters effect are negated also to 😊

@@FrancistheBrave That is indeed true. Warning can stop something like a fusion spell, or Tri Brigade Revolt.

@@MsMiDC you want to know something funny I've gotten back into yugioh ive been out since 5ds. So im building a dark magician deck now (NOT COMPETITIVE). And someone used solemm strike to negate my dark magic veil. And the guy next to me said he can negate it with strike through my spell card lol. Now I'm here doing my research on the the 3 solemm cards on KZfaq Judgement Warning (favorite because of the artwork) Strike

u can only strike when the monster would be SS(after its successfully summoned) . BUT warning can, cuz the card text says u can negate a monster, spell or trap that would be SS after the cost of the spell (the moment u send the cost warning can negate the summon).

are you still playing in the playground?

Not really. Gizmek orochi summoning itself is not an inherent summon, it's an activated effect that has a cost (you could still strike orochi because it's a monster effect, but you can't judgement it).

This makes a lot of sense. Thanks dude.

You beat me to it lol

In that window, the monster that would be summoned is not on the field yet, so if that is the only monster that is in question, you don't control any monsters yet. So Gamma's condition applies.

Trickstar corobane is an activated effect and worded similarly to cyber dragon smh.

@@r3zaful Corobane has an activation condition (i.e. it has a colon) and Cyber Dragon doesn't though.

I assume you are saying "no, you cannot Strike" and then "yes, you can Strike". Then yes. As long as the Special Summon occurs outside of a chain resolving, you can Solemn Strike it. That covers all of the possibilities. However, colons indicate that there is an ACTIVATION CONDITION, so no, it IS an activated effect there. Colons and semi-colons BOTH indicate an activated effect. Colons are placed after the activation condition, semi-colons are placed after the activation cost.

But that's wrong tho. Both cards mention AFTER this effect resolves. Meaning, it is not within the effect/chain-link resolution window in which card effects cannot be activated in response, so the summon can be responded to by Solemn Strike .

@@saraakthefgomaster7694 that makes it like an inherent summon then right

@@saraakthefgomaster7694 This is... Almost exactly what I said. Hence, I call them inherent summons. Or at least I would just say "It's an effect that lets you perform an inherent summon". So if it's chain link 1, it can be Striked.

@@saraakthefgomaster7694 But that's what he said in different wording. Those cards basically Summon after the effect resolves, which is outside of chain resolution (i.e. doesn't start a chain), which is "performing the regular summoning mechanic by the time the card resolved".

​@@Boristien405 Ok wait, I think I misread it back when I first commented. Yugioh player, can't read, society I-phone 12.

as long as its something similar to poly then yes but if they have one of these : then you can chain because its an activated effect

You cannot. While the wording is similar, there is a key difference in the text of Analyzer. "If only your opponent controls a monster: You can Special Summon this card from your hand." ^The colon in Analyzer's text here indicates that it is an activated effect. Which means that the summon happens during the resolution of a card effect. So if you have already OK'd the Analyzer to resolve, it will successfully special summon itself provided that nothing earlier in the chain negates the effect. Now, because this IS an activated effect however. You ARE allowed to Strike it. But ONLY if you do so to negate the activation of Analyzer's effect before the chain begins to resolve. Meanwhile Cyber Dragon's text shows the following. "If only your opponent controls a monster, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand)." ^See how there's no colon or semicolon in the card text? That means that this is not an activated effect and happens outside of a card effect resolving. Much like a Synchro summon, XYZ summon or Link summon. This is why you are allowed to activate Solemn Strike to negate the special summon of Cyber Dragon.

That reasoning doesn't work though. If a monster activates its effect in hand to SS itself, and that effect starts a chain as in Coder's example with the colon, then it is both SS itself AND an effect summoning it (its own effect).

Which would start a chain

"Inherent" summons summon by gamemechanics, the card is allowing YOU to do something. The player is using the right given to him by card text or game mechanic to perform the summon. You can summon cyber dragon straight from hand because it allows you to do so. You can xyz summon using 2 lv4 monsters because you are allowed to do so by the game mechanics. IP Masquerena allows you to perform a link summon after her effect resolves. Its all actions taken by the player at a time where no chain is happening.

@@Schmaglow It does though, because it is using its own activated EFFECT. It is still using an effect to summon itself. It's not just plopping itself on the field, it is using an activated effect to do so. To expound (I didn't want to, so I kept it simple). The question is what is summoning it? When I said "Is it summoning itself or is an effect summoning it", I meant is an activated effect summoning it or is it summoning itself(basically in a way similar to links or synchros, etc). That is what helps me remember. May not work for you, but it works for me.

@@luminous3558 I know that, but like I said, the above is just keeping it simple for me. "What is summoning this monster? An effect or is it just meeting a condition to summon it like you would a synchro monster or the like"

No Actually watch the video

put simply, fusion spells cannot be negated by strike because they summon by activated effect, which is different from a summoning condition.

@@redreboot483 Not entirely true. "Bujincaranation" or "Tri-Brigade Revolt" contain effects that special summon (XYZ/Link respectively) but since those summons happen immediately after the cards resolve, if they are chain link 1, you can activate "Solemn Strike" in response to those attempted summons (as DC explained in the video via "I:P Masquerena").

I get it but it's not really too hard to be honest. If you special WITHOUT a cain (i.e. Cyber Dragon) you can strike it. If it special summons WITH a chain you can NOT strike it (i.e. Polymerization, you have to negate this with Solemn Judgment for example). If a card has an activated effect that starts a chain, you can not strike it (unless its a monster effect of course), because then you are negating the effect, and not the summon.

I think the guy might of missed the point....basically (Might be wrong actually). "Inherent" summon is when the summon itself is seen as its own 'mechanic' instead of effect. So Cyberdragon's "effect" is to give itself the 'Mechanic' to special summon when conditions are meant. You chain to these as if they were a mechanic of the game. Like normal summons, or synchro summons etc. Compare to Polymerisation which is an ACTIVE effect in order to use a 'Mechanic' (Fusion Sumoning) to summon a monster when it resolves. The important part is whilst any chain is resolving, no effects can be chained. In this case you chain to these as if they are an effect, more specifically any effect "starts its own chain". More inherent summons for context are like photon thrasher, who gives itself the 'Mechanic' that if you have no monsters you can special summon itself. Or basically all Contact Fusions, which are monsters giving themselves the mechanic to fusion summon via tributing. (I actually checked the wiki whilst writing this and they name it "Built-In Summons" which actually explains itself much better than "Inherent".)

The simplest way to put it is that effects like Steelswarm Roach and Solemn Strike can't "see" what happens inside an Effect. Polymerization is a Card Effect that happens to Special Summon a monster, but that Special Summon happens "inside" the effect. For instance, let's say you activate "Unexpected Dai" "If you control no monsters: Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Normal Monster from the Deck." You can't respond to this with Solemn Strike... "When a monster(s) would be Special Summoned, OR a monster effect is activated" But you CAN respond to this with Ash Blossom. "When a card or effect is activated that includes any of these effects (Quick Effect): You can discard this card; negate that effect. ● Add a card from the Deck to the hand. ● Special Summon from the Deck. ● Send a card from the Deck to the GY." The reason is that Solemn Strike only responds to a Special Summon actually occurring, but Ash Blossom responds to an effect being activated that would have a Special Summon in the middle of it, see? Ash Blossom specifically calls out effects in a way that Solemn Strike doesn't. So how can you tell whether a Special Summon is an effect or not? With Problem-Solving Card Text, the answer is colons. Cyber Dragon - "If only your opponent controls a monster, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand)." There's no colon, so Cyber Dragon occurs without using an Effect, there's no Chain Link. Thus, Steelswarm Roach and Solemn Strike can negate this. Adamancipator Analyzer - "If only your opponent controls a monster: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. " There's a colon, so this is an Activated Effect in your hand that occurs as a Chain Link. You can't negate this as a Summon, but you CAN negate this with something that negates Monster Effects like Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon. (Solemn Strike can negate this, but only because it's a Monster Effect, not because it's a Special Summon) There's a weirder case, though, that he brings up. If you've ever seen effects phrased like this... IP Masquerena - "During your opponent's Main Phase, you can (Quick Effect): Immediately after this effect resolves, Link Summon 1 Link Monster using materials you control..." Ultimate Offering - "During your Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase: You can pay 500 Life Points; immediately after this effect resolves, Normal Summon/Set 1 monster." This effect specifies "immediately after this effect resolves". Why? Because this means the Summon occurs OUTSIDE the Effect resolving or its Chain Link. So if this happens as the last thing in a Chain (that is, Chain Link 1), then this is a Summon that Solemn Strike and Steelwarm Roach can see and react to normally. That's why it specifically says that the Special Summon is occurring after the effect, and not during it. (If this effect is Chain Link 2 or higher, it doesn't work because you can't interrupt a Chain and there's another effect that's going to resolve after that, so even though Roach can theoretically see it it can't do anything.) A weird thing to keep in mind though is that you can Solemn Warning Masquerena while it's activating. "When a monster(s) would be Summoned, OR when a Spell/Trap Card, or monster effect, is activated that includes an effect that Special Summons a monster(s): Pay 2000 LP; negate the Summon or activation, and if you do, destroy it." Why? Because why the Summon doesn't occur INSIDE the effect, it's still technically the effect that creates the Summon afterwards. So Solemn Warning can see that because it specifically looks for that, whereas Roach and Strike can't "see" the summons inside the effects. And just for fun, here's a silly one: Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon - "Must first be Special Summoned (from your Deck) by Tributing "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" equipped with "Metalmorph". " This isn't an effect, it's just a Summoning Condition. So you CANNOT negate this with Ash Blossom. But you CAN Solemn Strike it, just like Cyber Dragon. Does that make sense at all?

The way I see it is: I'm not summoning a monster, the card I activated is summoning a monster. If I play Poly or a ritual spell, the card is activated. At this point, before a monster hits the field, you have a chance to respond to the spell card. If there is no response, the spell will resolve. The spell does not finish resolving until the summon is complete. You cannot activate any other cards while card effects are resolving. Once the spell has completed resolving, the spell goes to the graveyard and the chain ends. The new monster on the field was summoned at some point when other card effects could not be activated. I think it's somewhat similar to the idea of missing timing with some fundamental differences.

The easiest way that I explain it is almost like what is in the video. "Inherent" = the Summon occurs outside of a Chain Link (which includes "immediately after this effect resolves", since that places the Summon after the chain resolves, not during). Two kinds of summons that occur outside of a Chain Link: 1. You SLAP the monster onto the field as the only action involved when attempting to Summon, but the monster is not considered on the field yet, then your opponent is allowed to chain something that states "when a Monster would be Summoned" to negate the Summon of the monster that would be slapped onto the field. 2. You perform such a Summon AFTER RESOLUTION of an effect on Chain Link 1 which stated "immediately after this effect resolves". In that case, the opponent is allowed to chain something that states "when a Monster would be Summoned" to negate the Summon of the monster that would appear on the field due to this effect. This is outside of a Chain Link because the effect PREPARED for the Summon, then resolved already, THEN you do the Summon where you SLAP the monster onto the field.