Remember though - falling into hopeless indifference is NOT untetheredness. This should tell you that a massive motivation for DOING the process of self-growth is to still HAVE the outcome of reconciliation. e.g. People who convince themselves that their partner isn't important/they don't care because their "having" is going further away from them, so they stop DOING. Untetheredness is the balance of these - the point where you have 100% complete effort & surrender to the processes, and DO because you ARE, without any expectations of HAVING. And ironically, this is when the HAVING can FALL to your lap :)

@GeoffreySetiawan first thank you for your thoughtful response. Your words are full of wisdom. Let me quickly address your point. I never fell into hopeless indifference. Rather, for me, I had to disconnect and untethere for the sake of rebuilding myself. My hope in doing this was to learn from my mistakes in that relationship and take those lessons into future relationships. That may or may not include the possibility of reconciliation with my Ex. So, my choice was to fix me and my issues first. And I know you have made it clear that these types of internal changes don't happen overnight. And to your point, I understood that it was going to take a long time for me to make the necessary changes. So I'm doing that first without the expectation or "having" motivating me behind the scenes. I had to find myself and that required focusing on me and not worrying about the relationship. I'm not indifferent, I'm in the process. And yes, I know that your program would supercharge these changes. I'm a believer. I'm just really enjoying the journey at this point. And part of this journey was inspired by your videos. I know there is much more you have to offer. Keep doing the work and helping Men achieve their full potential. You have a tremendous positive impact.

@@jonathanhutchins7129 Great! Keep going bud! :)

I feel like it's over

​@@GeoffreySetiawanshe ain't coming back but once u don't care anymore then it's all good.

Great! Which internal shifts are you focusing on first?

@@GeoffreySetiawanI’m going to work on building my BPV more and untethering more firstly

Yessir brother!!! I will not give up to life problems or struggles 💯 I wish you well my friend!!

Yup! We've never had anyone who actually regretted this journey! I sure did not regret it one bit! :)

It's a MASSIVE blind spot in a lot of people's lives, and why most stay stuck in a bitter cycle.

Always brother!!

Except people judge it as truly over before ever truly trying. That is the issue. Her leaving or signing divorce papers does not mean it is over. Know why? Because when she signed the marriage papers it also wasn’t all in the bag and “over”. People’s feelings are like clouds

And he is clearly saying to NOT give up, how did you get your interpretation?

@@StevoSparta-tt5vu Agreed on many levels! Thank you :)

@@StevoSparta-tt5vu from my experience I can say you usually always know when it is really over. Divorce or separation doesn't mean it is really over.

@@marko5472 From my experience with 5,000+ clients who begin convinced it's "over", I have a very different idea/thought on this. :) Like I always say - you cannot solve your problems using the same instincts that caused the issues in the first place. So when you say "you usually always know when it is really over" - I would wonder what instincts or paradigms you're using to be so sure of that statement. If you're curious to learn more, here's a video I made on the dangers of using these types of "instincts" to guide your decisions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZp6lNR2l63Yf40.html

Keep it up!!

Did you take the course?

@@aceshi3173 no, I have been watching these KZfaq (and some other) videos, reading books and had long discussions with friends with coaching background.

Hi! I'm not sure Geoffrey is paying attention to a 2 month old video, and since I'm a client of his, I'd like to respond so as to not leave you hanging :) What you personally want is quite irrelevant if you think about it. She's been struggling with you for a long time, and she wants out. Can you blame her? I'm sure you've had your own struggles with her as well, but we're not going to talk about you now. She doesn't want this relationship anymore, because she doesn't benefit from it. It drains her so much, and the fact that you cannot see that drains her even further. You need to understand that emotions are extremely hard to put into words. You cannot simply walk up to her and ask her what's wrong with the relationship. She wouldn't have the faintest idea of where to begin. OR she'd give you half truths to either a) not hurt your feelings. b) protecting herself from backlash or c) not wanting to get judged by someone who she thinks isn't capable of understanding her. When my wife came to me with the divorce papers I signed them with a smile, and we laughed and joked about the whole thing. I made it very light hearted for her and she was thankful for that. She even recorded it without telling, which tells me she expected things to go south, but I totally did the opposite. Why? Because I don't want that relationship anymore, it's dead and buried by signing those papers. Now I'm training myself to have the best relationship I can have, with or without her. How? I accepted that what I've done before has led me into this situation. This is what I deserve right now. There is no escape, I can only look at it from different angles and chose the best point of view. About your questions, there's tools early in the program that would help you in that moment and plant some good seeds in the process. But this requires a new set of understanding and interpreting your victim mindsets and some training to pull through effectively. I am not trying to sell you the program, but whoever comes into it is forever changed. It's hard work, but it's all for the future you. If you have any additional questions, feel free to ask, and I'll answer as best I can. I cannot give you too much, since I've signed a contract when I bought the program.

Correction - We leave it up to YOU to schedule the new time :) We don't change the time for you. Lol. So if YOU set the time yourself... Get emails & text reminders 24 hours, 3 hours and 15 mins before the meeting... Should have a calendar event automatically populated in your calendar (which should give reminders of its own). How do you still miss it? Hmmm... P.S. We also inform you in the masterclass and survey that simply scheduling a time does not guarantee acceptance/the call. In fact, in the survey, we have a whole question dedicated to whether you understand this or not. How did you miss this / how is this surprising? Do you see how HARD we make it for you to mess up your application? :D Do you also understand that we do this because the program you're applying for will require you to follow much more complex instructions, and if we struggle to follow the basic ones during the application process, that this will not spell good things? Do you see how we're doing this as a favor to you before you invest more time or $$$ into this program? Final point - If your application does not make the cut, or if you miss the whole interview for a job application or university application, do you think they will take the time to respond to each and every person that doesn't get in, allow a 15-min interview where they can coach & nurture you to be ready? So much more I can say - but think about all these and see how much you've being given here, and how many reasons you should have to get this RIGHT! :) Think about it...

Watch my video on what to do if you're blocked/about to be blocked. Hint: You cannot solve your problems using the same approach that created it. So your idea of trying to "restore and improve the relationship"... What principle/process is that based on?

@@GeoffreySetiawan Thanks a lot for replying. The approach I had was false, I tried to basically squeeze out information and misunderstood what your approach to stonewalling was. Leaving the door open wasnt about putting pressure to reply back, but about recognizing that safety goes above telling, which one has to be direct about as a goal too The main problem is though that I got blocked for trying to improve and restore the relationship in the first place. How am I supposed to improve it when trying to do so is the reason I got blocked? She its over so getting blocked is the only way for her to make me move on My conclusion is that I should stop directly "trying" to save the relationship and instead work on myself and save my relationship indirectly by becoming a different person and a performer, retain contact if possible and go with the flow, while always keeping the door open for getting closer again. Am I correct?

Unfortunately, we only work with people through our Relationships Revival program. We've offered one-off calls in the past, however, we found that without understanding the full spectrum of internal shifts, people were applying the principles in the wrong way that actually hurts their partner and themselves. So while we COULD get more money that way, we do not do it as it does not fit our philosophy of helping people thrive in relationships.